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USArmyParatrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 11:38 PM
Response to Reply #45
47. There is a point
We can debate Afghanistan separately, but this thread pertains to the troop withdraw from Iraq.

Even when one US Army unit replaces another there is a transition period to assist their replacements. It's called a "RIP/TOA" which stands for Relief in Place/Transfer of Authority. And even though it's units from the US army replacing another US army unit (which should be seamless) the transition takes months.

The transition with Iraqi forces is much more difficult and delicate. Not only are we being replaced by someone a totally different army, it's one that is far less organized, less cohesive and less equipped. Obviously a transition period is warranted.
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  -US forces help repel attack on Baghdad military HQ mike r  Sep-05-10 01:43 PM   #0 
  - Redefining "military operations"  iamtechus   Sep-05-10 01:53 PM   #1 
  - I don't get this  tomhayes   Sep-05-10 01:58 PM   #2 
     - I thought combat operations ended with Bush in a codpiece?  raouldukelives   Sep-05-10 02:39 PM   #5 
     - There has never been a 'war'  ixion   Sep-05-10 02:50 PM   #6 
     - I agree we should not have gone in  tomhayes   Sep-05-10 03:40 PM   #8 
     - We defeated Saddam Hussein, remember?  DeSwiss   Sep-05-10 03:23 PM   #7 
     - Exactly, well said!  RKP5637   Sep-06-10 05:06 PM   #86 
     - what did he say and why did he say it?  mdmc   Sep-06-10 05:08 PM   #87 
  - The question is  dipsydoodle   Sep-05-10 01:59 PM   #3 
  - Obviously it was a training attack!  IndianaGreen   Sep-05-10 02:03 PM   #4 
  - That was "fighting", not "combat".  wtmusic   Sep-05-10 03:48 PM   #9 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-05-10 04:25 PM   #10 
  - Rubber bands with paper clips for ammo  icnorth   Sep-05-10 06:07 PM   #11 
  - Despite formal combat end, US joins Baghdad battle  Turborama   Sep-05-10 06:15 PM   #12 
  - Did anyone seriously think the war was over?  lib2DaBone   Sep-05-10 06:15 PM   #13 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-05-10 06:15 PM   #16 
     - No.  Sinistrous   Sep-05-10 06:45 PM   #17 
        - LOL  Skittles   Sep-05-10 06:47 PM   #18 
        - Keep digging.  Sinistrous   Sep-05-10 07:00 PM   #19 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-05-10 07:02 PM   #20 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-05-10 11:43 PM   #62 
        - what is the mission now?  mdmc   Sep-06-10 05:13 PM   #88 
  - That's the main reason there are still 50,000 US toops still there.  napi21   Sep-05-10 06:15 PM   #14 
  - LOL  Skittles   Sep-05-10 06:15 PM   #15 
  - It means that  WoodyM   Sep-05-10 08:18 PM   #21 
  - umm. I had not thought of that factor.  speppin   Sep-06-10 05:49 AM   #66 
     - Nor had I. That is plenty messed up. Even while those private contractors receive much more than  SammyWinstonJack   Sep-06-10 10:18 AM   #73 
  - They're only allowed to fight with office equipment.  Yeahyeah   Sep-05-10 08:57 PM   #22 
  - It was a training firefight in which the enemy used training bullets  IndianaGreen   Sep-05-10 09:09 PM   #23 
  - U.S. troops join Baghdad battle against militants  autorank   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #24 
  - "Mission Accomplished. Smirk." - xCommander AWOL (R) - May 2, 2003  SpiralHawk   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #25 
  - Looks familiar. Who's that guy?  autorank   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #26 
  - Hoocoodanoed?  Fumesucker   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #27 
  - You mean besides Everyone? Nobody claimed US troops would never be engaged.  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #33 
  - I never wanted them to be there in the first place..  Fumesucker   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #37 
  - Actually the dirty fucking hippy would have started blathering about flouridation  Chulanowa   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #58 
     - Umm.. It's the right wingers who have an obsession about flouridation..  Fumesucker   Sep-06-10 08:22 AM   #71 
  - When Mr. Obama sent 30,000 troops to Afghanistan....  lib2DaBone   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #28 
  - War(s)? No.  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #36 
     - You moved from a red herring to a strawman rather easily  liberation   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #38 
     - Excellent. Then you should have no problem elaborating.  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #43 
     - His opposition to Iraq consisted of one speech, and he wasn't in Congress  IndianaGreen   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #39 
        - "Once he became President" = a Lie  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #42 
           - How long is the "phase" - a hundred years? nt  TBF   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #44 
              - Pay Attention  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #46 
              - Hyperbole isn't good argument  Chulanowa   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #59 
                 - Get back to me when the troops are actually out of Iraq.  TBF   Sep-06-10 08:03 AM   #69 
                    - One of us on this board was actually in Iraq during the transition period  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-06-10 12:41 PM   #79 
                       - Most would like to see all of you come home -  TBF   Sep-06-10 01:42 PM   #80 
  - One thing only NPR has reported on...  Crazy Dave   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #29 
  - The occupation and slaughter continue. nt  burnsei sensei   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #30 
  - If they're asking us to stay how is it an occupation?  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #34 
     - Who is they? Maliki's term of office ended months ago  IndianaGreen   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #40 
     - Many (likely most) of the Iraqi people, the Iraqi government, Iraqi security forces  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #41 
     - Our troops should all be home from both Iraq and Afghanistan  IndianaGreen   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #45 
        - There is a point  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #47 
           - No, we have done enough damage in Iraq as it is  IndianaGreen   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #48 
              - So your assessment is that Iraqi forces are better off with a mass exodus?  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #49 
                 - Iraqis will do fine without us being there!  IndianaGreen   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #50 
                    - Yeah?  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #51 
                    - Iraqis will do fine! We need to get out of their country ASAP!  IndianaGreen   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #52 
                       - 'Cuase being allied with Iran is just absolutely terrible!  Chulanowa   Sep-05-10 11:41 PM   #61 
                       - What the hell are you smoking?  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-06-10 10:55 AM   #74 
                    - Racist and non-sensible.  proteus_lives   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #53 
                       - Iraq had a thriving civilization when Europe was backwards  IndianaGreen   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #54 
     - Who is they? They are US puppets. We pull the strings. And that won't be  totodeinhere   Sep-06-10 05:48 PM   #89 
     - Our patsies in Baghdad are "allowing" us to stay.  Odin2005   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #57 
     - Answer me this....  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-06-10 12:05 PM   #76 
        - The Iraqi people want us to go.  Odin2005   Sep-06-10 12:28 PM   #77 
           - Do you care what these Iraqis think?  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-06-10 12:39 PM   #78 
     - Are you familiar with the word PUPPETS? Half a dozen rich guys do not represent the will of iraq n/t  conspirator   Sep-06-10 07:18 AM   #68 
  - Why, it's almost like  placton   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #31 
  - What specifically did President Obama lie about?  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #35 
     - "the American combat mission in Iraq has ended." —August 31, 2010  Demit   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #55 
        - There's a difference between a combat mission, and engagement in combat  Chulanowa   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #60 
           - yes, because if you get killed now, you're not really dead, because it's not combat.  provis99   Sep-05-10 11:47 PM   #63 
           - 'Cause that's totally what I said, isn't it?  Chulanowa   Sep-06-10 12:12 AM   #64 
           - Nice personal insult - way to argue. nt  TBF   Sep-06-10 08:05 AM   #70 
           - Words. That's the difference. Continuing the great tradition of calling something different in order  Demit   Sep-06-10 08:32 AM   #72 
              - No, it's not just words  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-06-10 12:00 PM   #75 
  - The war is over  daleo   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #32 
  - But, but, I thought the occupashun wuz over!?!  Odin2005   Sep-05-10 11:38 PM   #56 
  - how brilliant does that DLC strategery look now? first with off-shore drilling now Iraq?  yurbud   Sep-06-10 01:01 AM   #65 
  - War is Peace n/t  conspirator   Sep-06-10 06:51 AM   #67 
  - Attack Shows Lasting Threat to U.S. in Iraq  Francesca9   Sep-06-10 04:58 PM   #81 
  - I may be wrong, but I wonder if the only 'combat' that ended was 'combat pay' n/t  Ruby the Liberal   Sep-06-10 04:58 PM   #82 
  - Sorry for you, American friends, but you are stuck in Iraq  bherrera   Sep-06-10 04:58 PM   #83 
  - Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan really need to get their shit together.  AndyA   Sep-06-10 04:58 PM   #84 
     - Excellent comment  bherrera   Sep-06-10 04:58 PM   #85 
        - Well crafted, like your comment above.  crim son   Sep-06-10 06:12 PM   #90 
  - Isn't it generally considered a bad thing  quakerboy   Sep-06-10 07:54 PM   #91 
  - Nothing weird here...  Javaman   Sep-07-10 08:33 AM   #92 
 

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