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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:02 PM
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36. "particularly at the community college level"
As someone whose family income depends on a community college, I support community colleges. They fill a necessary niche. And there are some good jobs (meaning those paying a living wage) available that require nothing more than vocational training or a two-year "associates" degree.


The jobs they train students for are not generally decision-making jobs. To get a decision-making position in management, you need at least a Bachelor's degree (Master's degrees are generally preferred). Those degrees are getting more and more out of reach for the VAST majority of Americans. As others have noted, tuitions are rising, grants and loans are falling. If your family can't afford a 4-year college degree for you, it's unlikely you'll ever be the one making the decisions. For some people, that's the way they want it. There's nothing wrong with working to live instead of living to work, IF THAT'S THE WAY YOU WANT IT. But let's not pretend that this "particularly at the community college level" prescription is anything other than a means for advancing the plutocracy. Only the rich will get the education that allows them to hold the decision-making positions, and they will always decide in their own favor.
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