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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 02:44 PM
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28. If all the bars and vault doors and prison locks were removed,
Edited on Sat Aug-21-10 02:51 PM by 1monster
and an effort made to add some comfort and pleasant decor, the former prison might make a great homeless shelter/training center. They could make singles areas and families areas.

It would cost some money to transform, but probably not nearly as much to build a new homeless center (and probably impossible to get the funding for building one).

I don't think that needing "welfare" should force one into a "welfare dorm." If the homeless already have a home or choose to live outside said dorm, then the homeless should not be forced to live in said dorm.

Definitely, the homeless center should try to get employment for those needing the services of a homeless shelter, and provide not only training to help them get jobs, but also teach them how to handle money and expenses with a large portion of any wages made while in the shelter being put into individual bank account to help the homeless to get a home again. And to offer the education the homeless need to be successful. There are plenty of people who would volunteer to teach/train/etc., (teachers and others could be given incentives to teach by having their student loans reduced by the amount of time spent volunteering or other incentives for those who do not need to pay off student loans).

I don't care what building is converted to that kind program.

But the idea of forcing "welfare" recipients to live in an atmosphere of either perceived or acutual imprisonment is beneath consideration and contempt.
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  -GOP governor candidate: Turn prisons into welfare dorms SecularMotion  Aug-21-10 12:27 PM   #0 
  - Ahhh, the return of the "Workhouse"  davepc   Aug-21-10 12:29 PM   #1 
  - here's an interesting quote from the article:  DBoon   Aug-21-10 02:33 PM   #26 
  - If all the bars and vault doors and prison locks were removed,  1monster   Aug-21-10 02:44 PM   #28 
  - Most NY State prisons are located in isolated rural areas upstate  KamaAina   Aug-23-10 01:35 PM   #57 
  - OF course they do  Drale   Aug-21-10 11:02 PM   #52 
  - The return of Depression era "Poor Farms?" n/t  Downwinder   Aug-21-10 12:29 PM   #2 
  - "Personal hygiene"????  aquart   Aug-21-10 12:35 PM   #3 
  - There are no words...  Catshrink   Aug-21-10 12:40 PM   #4 
  - then when everyone is asleep, he'll lock the doors and say 'mission accomplished'  tomm2thumbs   Aug-21-10 12:41 PM   #5 
  - Re-indoctrination centers? n/t  Downwinder   Aug-21-10 12:43 PM   #6 
  - That one's the winner  txlibdem   Aug-21-10 10:10 PM   #51 
  - No doubt this GOP candidate for governor will be financed by the $1 million...  KansDem   Aug-21-10 12:46 PM   #7 
  - Sort of a tricky way to pay for your news (?) copy. n/t  Downwinder   Aug-21-10 12:49 PM   #11 
  - Fox may finance his campaign, but I'm sure the money for these "dorms..."  Moonwalk   Aug-21-10 12:56 PM   #13 
  - Soon it will be a crime to be poor. Such a good moral  louis-t   Aug-21-10 12:46 PM   #8 
  - I know, let's send everybody out of the cities to farm. n/t  bushmeister0   Aug-21-10 12:46 PM   #9 
  - And he would have those welfare recipients' children live where...?  Whoa_Nelly   Aug-21-10 12:47 PM   #10 
  - By past performance -- Orphanages  Downwinder   Aug-21-10 12:55 PM   #12 
  - I'm sure the cells are big enough for whole families.  Moonwalk   Aug-21-10 01:00 PM   #14 
     - 'the family that slaves together, stays together'  tomm2thumbs   Aug-21-10 01:13 PM   #17 
        - Illegal emigrant holding for everyone. n/t  Downwinder   Aug-21-10 01:17 PM   #18 
  - It's proof that GOP scumbags are all over the place, even NY nt  MrScorpio   Aug-21-10 01:01 PM   #15 
  - And if they need more buildings, I'm sure he can work out a deal  NBachers   Aug-21-10 01:13 PM   #16 
  - Sounds like a tune for the pied piper, Or toon of; Whichever. nt  ooglymoogly   Aug-21-10 01:18 PM   #19 
  - Fer sher dooods, we'll call them debtors prisons.  ooglymoogly   Aug-21-10 01:23 PM   #20 
  - It's stuff like this...  dadzilla   Aug-21-10 01:29 PM   #21 
  - yep  oldhippydude   Aug-21-10 01:39 PM   #22 
  - A virtual reality site.  Downwinder   Aug-21-10 01:39 PM   #23 
  - 2 pound how about a 20 pound sledge hammer  skoalyman   Aug-21-10 03:54 PM   #32 
  - Ah, the New Slavery!  eShirl   Aug-21-10 02:07 PM   #24 
  - No really new.  atreides1   Aug-21-10 04:36 PM   #41 
  - "Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?  CanonRay   Aug-21-10 02:16 PM   #25 
  - oh goodie! the return of indentured servants and debtors prisons!  UpInArms   Aug-21-10 02:35 PM   #27 
  - When is the revolt?  freebrew   Aug-21-10 03:07 PM   #29 
  - unfortunately i bet it will be a civil war instead of a revolution  southmost   Aug-21-10 03:15 PM   #30 
  - "Dormitory" sounds so much better than "prison."  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-21-10 03:18 PM   #31 
  - Carl Paladino can suck my....... nt  PJPhreak   Aug-21-10 03:56 PM   #33 
  - Al Lewis must be turning over in his grave (Grandpa Munster)  bananas   Aug-21-10 04:02 PM   #34 
  - Nonsense! They Are Future "Gated Communities" for Corporate Felons  Demeter   Aug-21-10 04:08 PM   #35 
  - He's got an interesting idea but he's seriously wack.  truthisfreedom   Aug-21-10 04:12 PM   #36 
  - Wow...Slave Farms.  SoapBox   Aug-21-10 04:13 PM   #37 
  - How depressing  PatSeg   Aug-21-10 04:14 PM   #38 
  - Gee, he sounds a little confused about his own proposal...  Moosepoop   Aug-21-10 04:20 PM   #39 
  - the part that's killing me: "underused?"  Chicago dyke   Aug-24-10 04:19 AM   #60 
  - are there no workhouses for the poor?  yurbud   Aug-21-10 04:22 PM   #40 
  - How about we lock up repuke criminals  Carnage251   Aug-21-10 04:54 PM   #42 
  - Bush should be the first in such a prison. He should give up his  activa8tr   Aug-21-10 05:00 PM   #43 
  - Umm, if this is based on Civilian Conservation Corps, why not just straight up remake it  alp227   Aug-21-10 05:27 PM   #44 
  - Probably already has a corporation waiting for...  Frisbee   Aug-21-10 06:10 PM   #45 
  - I'd really like to kick the shit  sulphurdunn   Aug-21-10 06:18 PM   #46 
  - When does he include "decrease the surplus population"  IDemo   Aug-21-10 08:20 PM   #47 
  - I would love to know this man's IQ  lunasun   Aug-21-10 09:02 PM   #48 
  - So the 'conservative' approach to welfare reform....  Trajan   Aug-21-10 09:09 PM   #49 
  - Conservatism unmasked  mike r   Aug-21-10 09:19 PM   #50 
  - From last April: GOP governor hopeful Carl Paladino under fire again for sending out racist, trashy  Judi Lynn   Aug-21-10 11:11 PM   #53 
  - I was just going to mention he was the asshole that did this.  Heywood J   Aug-22-10 10:13 AM   #54 
  - Fuck this BS! The poor are already treated like criminals as it is!  Odin2005   Aug-22-10 11:10 AM   #55 
  - Plenty of stupid comments on this at the link....  and-justice-for-all   Aug-23-10 08:38 AM   #56 
  - Needs a visit from Marley's ghost, 'e does.  No Elephants   Aug-23-10 03:02 PM   #58 
  - Interesting to note  Newest Reality   Aug-24-10 01:55 AM   #59 
  - I know Paladino  melm00se   Aug-24-10 04:39 AM   #61 

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