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Mon Aug-16-10 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #20 |
| 24. Calling appellate judges 'fuckers' before they have actually ruled? Hysterical. |
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Edited on Mon Aug-16-10 06:19 PM by msanthrope
Seriously.
ETA--you've got a fast track on the standing issue appeals. The judges did what was right and proper.
Calm yourself.
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| -9th Circuit grants indefinite stay in Prop 8 case |
Newsjock |
Aug-16-10 05:59 PM |
#0 |
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That sucks. I wonder what the reasoning was... |
petronius |
Aug-16-10 06:00 PM |
#1 |
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Well, the *good* news is that the 9th circuit remains the most-overturned |
Lance_Boyle |
Aug-16-10 06:00 PM |
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when? |
Francesca9 |
Aug-16-10 11:43 PM |
#66 |
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"the world's worst court" might be just a little hyperbolic. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Aug-17-10 10:30 AM |
#94 |
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Like the man said, justice delayed is justice denied. |
KamaAina |
Aug-16-10 06:01 PM |
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Its scheduled for December. How is that "indefinite"? |
DURHAM D |
Aug-16-10 06:03 PM |
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Well, when you've got Obama to bash.....n/t |
msanthrope |
Aug-16-10 06:06 PM |
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What motivates you to come into these threads about equal marriage rights? |
ruggerson |
Aug-16-10 10:07 PM |
#57 |
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I want equal marriage rights for all. n/t |
msanthrope |
Aug-17-10 09:46 AM |
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That's the earliest that the appeal can be heard, but there is no time limit to how long it will |
totodeinhere |
Aug-16-10 09:16 PM |
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The stay will probably remain in effect until a final decision has been rendered--perhaps by the |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 06:01 AM |
#73 |
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Motherfuckers. |
pgodbold |
Aug-16-10 06:15 PM |
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Why? You've got an expedited appeal on standing. How is that bad? |
msanthrope |
Aug-16-10 06:22 PM |
#7 |
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Bingo! |
aranthus |
Aug-18-10 05:27 PM |
#129 |
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And of course this pleases the President for he is against |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-16-10 06:33 PM |
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And of course, you've got an expedited appeal. How is that bad? n/t |
msanthrope |
Aug-16-10 06:49 PM |
#9 |
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You can't spin it as good news |
FBaggins |
Aug-16-10 07:53 PM |
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It's not good or bad--it's court process. This isn't 'the appeal', FYI. |
msanthrope |
Aug-16-10 08:05 PM |
#34 |
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That's incorrect. |
FBaggins |
Aug-16-10 08:16 PM |
#37 |
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No--I am correct--it's not 'the appeal.' |
msanthrope |
Aug-17-10 09:41 AM |
#88 |
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Sorry... once again that's incorrect. |
FBaggins |
Aug-17-10 10:21 AM |
#92 |
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Jeebus. As the defense is not appealing, only the proponents, and the |
msanthrope |
Aug-17-10 12:49 PM |
#98 |
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Nope. |
FBaggins |
Aug-17-10 01:34 PM |
#100 |
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So you still haven't read Walker's ruling on standing regarding Imperial County? |
msanthrope |
Aug-17-10 01:52 PM |
#102 |
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I have and I've already corrected you on it. |
FBaggins |
Aug-17-10 02:20 PM |
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O dear Jeebus, still haven't read the actual decision, have you? |
msanthrope |
Aug-17-10 02:53 PM |
#107 |
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Bet you wish you read #105 before posting that. Let me know |
FBaggins |
Aug-17-10 02:55 PM |
#108 |
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Again, thank you for posting proof you can't read a docket. |
msanthrope |
Aug-17-10 03:10 PM |
#110 |
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Really? lol |
FBaggins |
Aug-17-10 03:16 PM |
#112 |
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Answered downthread. Stop conflating docket numbers and case numbers..... |
msanthrope |
Aug-17-10 03:24 PM |
#115 |
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Tell it to the 9th. |
FBaggins |
Aug-17-10 03:26 PM |
#116 |
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I answered you below--I think we are just mistaking each other.... |
msanthrope |
Aug-17-10 03:34 PM |
#118 |
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10-16751 was docketed almost a week ago. |
FBaggins |
Aug-17-10 03:46 PM |
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I'm not an attorney; however, I played the judge in "Miracle on |
24601 |
Aug-17-10 06:35 PM |
#126 |
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Game Set and Match. |
FBaggins |
Aug-17-10 02:25 PM |
#105 |
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Thank you for posting this. It confirms that you are incorrect. |
msanthrope |
Aug-17-10 03:08 PM |
#109 |
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Lol... time to stop digging. Check the case numbers. |
FBaggins |
Aug-17-10 03:15 PM |
#111 |
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Dude--those are docket numbers...the case number on both documents is |
msanthrope |
Aug-17-10 03:21 PM |
#113 |
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Better tell the 9th circuit that they don't know what a case number is. |
FBaggins |
Aug-17-10 03:23 PM |
#114 |
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You know I think I know why you are confusing this..... |
msanthrope |
Aug-17-10 03:31 PM |
#117 |
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Sorry... no. It isn't the same thing. There are two cases. |
FBaggins |
Aug-17-10 03:41 PM |
#119 |
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Nice! |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 04:46 PM |
#125 |
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No, granting an appeal that has been properly sought is process, A stay is not an inevitable side |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 06:15 AM |
#76 |
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This has been properly sought, and a stay in this case |
msanthrope |
Aug-17-10 09:46 AM |
#89 |
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Um, I was contradicting your erroneous claim that "It's not good or bad--it's court process." |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 04:17 PM |
#123 |
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How is the stay bad? Geez. |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 06:08 AM |
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I said 'expedited appeal.' |
msanthrope |
Aug-17-10 10:00 AM |
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LOL. Take another look at Replies 6 and 7, both of which were the context of my reply to you. |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 04:40 PM |
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Which "unpracticed faith" do you mean, pray tell? |
MineralMan |
Aug-16-10 06:55 PM |
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Good question. Rick Warren's, apparently--or so it might seem. |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 07:24 AM |
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President was against Prop 8. |
boppers |
Aug-16-10 06:59 PM |
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And his public statements against equal marriage were used by Prop 8 backers |
Smashcut |
Aug-16-10 07:40 PM |
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Yes, they are. |
boppers |
Aug-16-10 07:50 PM |
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LOL. |
Smashcut |
Aug-16-10 08:11 PM |
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No prob. It's a pretty good article. |
boppers |
Aug-16-10 08:29 PM |
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How could any article totally explain what has been called "Obama's awkward stance" on equal |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 07:02 AM |
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Your link adds no new "fact" and does not rebut Smashcut's post. |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 06:37 AM |
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True, but he also opposed same gender marriage because "God is in the mix" of marriage, a |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 06:24 AM |
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Unlikely, since Obama was against Prop 8. |
NYC Liberal |
Aug-16-10 07:14 PM |
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yes, he was such a vocal opponent of it.. |
t0dd |
Aug-16-10 07:28 PM |
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Upthread... |
boppers |
Aug-16-10 08:24 PM |
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t0dd's post, like Smashcut's, reflects reality.. |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 07:11 AM |
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Ah yes, Obama was against it, but he was "REALLY" for it |
NYC Liberal |
Aug-16-10 10:53 PM |
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How does one simultaneously oppose prop 8 and marriage equality? |
t0dd |
Aug-16-10 10:58 PM |
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So you claim he supported Prop 8, even though he didn't? |
NYC Liberal |
Aug-16-10 11:06 PM |
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Put words into other folks' posts much? t0dd's question is 100% valid. See Reply ##s 77, 27 and 80 |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 07:42 AM |
#84 |
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My first post in this thread was a response to the claim |
NYC Liberal |
Aug-17-10 12:01 PM |
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None of which has a thing to do with my Reply 84 to you, which, in turn, had |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 03:55 PM |
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Attacking Obama's critics doesn't prove your point, either. |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 07:57 AM |
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Correcting a factual error helps everyone. nt |
NYC Liberal |
Aug-17-10 11:56 AM |
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He is against same gender marriage. Please see Reply 77 |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 07:15 AM |
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He is against Prop 8, so the claim that |
NYC Liberal |
Aug-17-10 11:55 AM |
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I feel ya, but, to be fair, he did say he did not approve of Prop 8. |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 06:06 AM |
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This does not bode well. [n/t] |
stranger81 |
Aug-16-10 07:01 PM |
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Federal court blocks same-sex weddings in California while appeal considered |
KamaAina |
Aug-16-10 07:16 PM |
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Fuckers. You'll see now why elections matter. Judicial appointments matter! |
xultar |
Aug-16-10 07:16 PM |
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Jeebus calm down...expected, and we dont even know if |
msanthrope |
Aug-16-10 07:16 PM |
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Calling them fuckers is not hysterics. You calling me hysterical for calling them fuckers is |
xultar |
Aug-16-10 07:16 PM |
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your reply made me smile -thanks |
tomm2thumbs |
Aug-16-10 07:16 PM |
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Me Too! |
Binka |
Aug-16-10 08:54 PM |
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Calling appellate judges 'fuckers' before they have actually ruled? Hysterical. |
msanthrope |
Aug-16-10 07:16 PM |
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What's the matter with you? |
DURHAM D |
Aug-16-10 10:16 PM |
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Posting "judicial appointments matter" is "hysterics?" LOL |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 08:00 AM |
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Clinton appointed 2. |
SnakeEyes |
Aug-16-10 07:16 PM |
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That was the panel deciding on the stay, |
Sapphocrat |
Aug-17-10 12:02 AM |
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And your point would be? |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 08:11 AM |
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Expected--and not anything to wet your pants over. |
msanthrope |
Aug-16-10 07:16 PM |
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Really...how dare you tell our GLBT DUers to "chill?" |
MineralMan |
Aug-16-10 07:18 PM |
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I think you are conflating me with another poster. |
msanthrope |
Aug-16-10 07:42 PM |
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Yes, there is often disappointment. |
MineralMan |
Aug-16-10 07:47 PM |
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I take your point. n/t |
msanthrope |
Aug-16-10 08:14 PM |
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Extending this stay was NOT expected. |
Sapphocrat |
Aug-17-10 12:07 AM |
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Kindly cite your legal authorities. |
msanthrope |
Aug-17-10 01:35 PM |
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The county clerks, to name one bunch... |
Sapphocrat |
Aug-17-10 01:56 PM |
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No..if you read the order |
SoCalNative |
Aug-16-10 07:16 PM |
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More from the LATimes... |
flpoljunkie |
Aug-16-10 07:16 PM |
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that was helpful information - thank you |
tomm2thumbs |
Aug-16-10 07:16 PM |
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This is what happens when spineless Dems/Libs/Progressives just sit on their hands... |
SoapBox |
Aug-16-10 07:16 PM |
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Oh, you did NOT just lump us |
Le Taz Hot |
Aug-17-10 06:58 AM |
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Clinton and Reagan fucked us again |
AllTooEasy |
Aug-16-10 07:32 PM |
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That is so wrong! n/t |
proReality |
Aug-16-10 08:42 PM |
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PROP 8: Stay Granted; Case Expedited; Standing Questioned |
GodlessBiker |
Aug-16-10 09:02 PM |
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Fuckers. |
Smashcut |
Aug-16-10 09:02 PM |
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they're bending over to be fair (perhaps I should rephrase that) |
paulkienitz |
Aug-16-10 09:02 PM |
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Grrrrrrrrrrrr! Nt |
xchrom |
Aug-16-10 09:02 PM |
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What's the bad news? |
dencol |
Aug-16-10 09:02 PM |
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3 Judges Who Made This Call BTW (I understand different judges will decide issues) |
tomm2thumbs |
Aug-16-10 09:02 PM |
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three things: |
tomm2thumbs |
Aug-16-10 09:02 PM |
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The decision comes after the November elections. Good thing or bad thing? |
NorthCarolina |
Aug-16-10 09:02 PM |
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I don't think anyone really knows, but... |
Sapphocrat |
Aug-17-10 12:14 AM |
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This issue is being exploited for political advantage by Republicans. |
closeupready |
Aug-16-10 09:02 PM |
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While the standing issue is important |
customerserviceguy |
Aug-16-10 09:02 PM |
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But if those who argued before Walker had no standing--- |
Moonwalk |
Aug-16-10 09:10 PM |
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You're right about the automatic loss |
customerserviceguy |
Aug-16-10 09:21 PM |
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NOTHING can change Walker's ruling in the case, unless a higher court overrules him. |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 03:50 PM |
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Except that there's a stricter set of criteria... |
Sapphocrat |
Aug-17-10 12:25 AM |
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Let's hope that the standing issue ends this. But, I guess the jerks could appeal if they are found |
No Elephants |
Aug-17-10 05:53 AM |
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Whats with the 'oh its not that bad" bullshit on here...what the fuck? |
and-justice-for-all |
Aug-16-10 09:07 PM |
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E) |
CocaNova |
Aug-16-10 10:36 PM |
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"Whats with the 'oh its not that bad" bullshit on here"?? |
Occulus |
Aug-17-10 02:35 PM |
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Yep, sure is...reada through the post..nt |
and-justice-for-all |
Aug-18-10 02:12 PM |
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I had to log out to see who it was |
Occulus |
Aug-18-10 04:23 PM |
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I am watching this for an entirely different reason |
FirstLight |
Aug-16-10 09:42 PM |
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The Marriage and Divorce Industries NEED Gay Marriage |
Phil The Cat |
Aug-16-10 10:28 PM |
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Crap! |
Odin2005 |
Aug-16-10 10:21 PM |
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The actual full text of the order (one main paragraph) can be read at this link |
2 Much Tribulation |
Aug-16-10 10:55 PM |
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California Gay Marriage on Hold as Case Is Appealed |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-17-10 12:22 AM |
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This is ridiculous. n/t |
Mad_Dem_X |
Aug-17-10 10:28 AM |
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On being a second class citizen -- aka Gays are not welcome in America |
Politicub |
Aug-17-10 12:50 PM |
#99 |