| 23. Sssshh! You members of the "professional left" are too concerned with pesky facts. |
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The important thing is that President Obama can score political points by criticizing the GOP!  |
| -Obama Claims GOP Trying to Destroy Social Security |
Elmore Furth |
Aug-14-10 05:36 AM |
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here we go... first on health care, then other issues, now SS and Medicare... |
nightrain |
Aug-14-10 05:45 AM |
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+1 |
xchrom |
Aug-14-10 06:22 AM |
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Aug-14-10 07:43 AM |
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Obama's Commission on "Fiscal Responsibility" |
Chef Eric |
Aug-14-10 08:42 AM |
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the Social Security program never expected anyone to actually live to 65 and collect. |
AlbertCat |
Aug-14-10 08:19 PM |
#166 |
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if you are old enough to remember the "good old days" |
mikehiggins |
Aug-14-10 09:06 AM |
#20 |
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so you support privatizing Social Security? |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Aug-14-10 08:37 AM |
#12 |
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How about instead of privatizing it, and cutting it, we just save it as is. |
glitch |
Aug-14-10 09:29 AM |
#36 |
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It would be useful to pay back what is owed to it |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Aug-14-10 09:32 AM |
#37 |
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Yeah - the federal budget's got plenty of leftover |
Yupster |
Aug-14-10 11:06 AM |
#88 |
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it was wasted on war and tax cuts for the wealthy etc |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Aug-14-10 12:18 PM |
#107 |
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Yep |
Andy823 |
Aug-14-10 02:25 PM |
#132 |
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too bad Social Security has NO NEGATIVE IMPACT on the budget BY LAW, Nice straw man tho |
Vincardog |
Aug-14-10 01:12 PM |
#120 |
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Except that the budget owes the social security fund |
Yupster |
Aug-14-10 05:36 PM |
#159 |
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That would be why the PTB's want to trim it... |
CTuttle |
Aug-14-10 06:09 PM |
#161 |
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Unless your BIL is Uncle Sam this is another straw man/ don't trust your T bills, Send them to ME. |
Vincardog |
Aug-14-10 08:30 PM |
#169 |
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Uncle Sam isn't broke and won't ever be broke |
creeksneakers2 |
Aug-14-10 10:12 PM |
#178 |
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So there's no limit on how much we should owe? |
Yupster |
Aug-15-10 01:06 AM |
#190 |
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Money is borrowed every Monday by the Treasury Department, because |
mbperrin |
Aug-14-10 02:06 PM |
#129 |
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Usury for the banksters... (n/t) |
ProudDad |
Aug-16-10 01:29 PM |
#201 |
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Use the money we're wasting to continue the endless war policy |
dflprincess |
Aug-14-10 08:58 PM |
#171 |
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Tell that to the Repubs (and some Dems...sadly) who have raped, |
laylah |
Aug-14-10 06:29 PM |
#164 |
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What is owed to it is in gov. bonds.now so has not really gone anywhere. |
bjobotts |
Aug-14-10 11:14 PM |
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Removing the cap so people making over $1k/yr pay into it like the rest of us makes it solvent forev |
bjobotts |
Aug-14-10 11:22 PM |
#184 |
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$1k/yr? |
boppers |
Aug-14-10 11:36 PM |
#187 |
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How about..... |
daleanime |
Aug-14-10 09:57 AM |
#51 |
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Lowering the age limit (and providing single payer) would have done a lot to boost our economy |
glitch |
Aug-14-10 10:10 AM |
#66 |
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Right! It just makes sense... |
daleanime |
Aug-14-10 10:22 AM |
#70 |
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IOW reverse the Reaganomic transfer of wealth from the middle class to the wealthiest. |
glitch |
Aug-14-10 10:29 AM |
#75 |
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Why would I want a 'golf date'? |
daleanime |
Aug-14-10 10:40 AM |
#83 |
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Oh if only Medicare covered everyone, better care, lower costs and decreased deficits |
bjobotts |
Aug-14-10 11:24 PM |
#185 |
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No wonder every republican opposes it, Would've made the dems too popular. |
bjobotts |
Aug-14-10 11:26 PM |
#186 |
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of course not. |
nightrain |
Aug-14-10 11:14 AM |
#91 |
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I believe that he is starting to get the message. |
olegramps |
Aug-14-10 08:38 AM |
#13 |
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or it's another head fake aimed at his base... |
northernlights |
Aug-14-10 09:25 AM |
#31 |
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thanks northernlights I thought I was hallucinating or just |
russspeakeasy |
Aug-14-10 09:57 AM |
#50 |
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I noticed it too... |
Alameda |
Aug-14-10 09:27 PM |
#175 |
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Probably not. |
Igel |
Aug-14-10 10:29 AM |
#74 |
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yeah, sadly... I hate these potential head fakes, so destructive for regular people |
nightrain |
Aug-14-10 11:15 AM |
#92 |
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He's good at "action" that only requires "talk". |
readmoreoften |
Aug-14-10 11:30 AM |
#98 |
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Wow . . . naive ... Obama is fully awake and not being tricked by GOP ... if any of what |
defendandprotect |
Aug-14-10 09:41 AM |
#41 |
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admin wake up? no, it is us who better wake up! |
bbgrunt |
Aug-14-10 12:28 PM |
#113 |
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+1 |
burnsei sensei |
Aug-14-10 09:17 AM |
#27 |
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yeee-up.... it does look like a set up |
fascisthunter |
Aug-14-10 10:01 AM |
#55 |
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+1000000000 n/t |
bluethruandthru |
Aug-14-10 10:04 AM |
#58 |
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Strategy make them wiggle & come up with a solution.......then do the opposite. |
Historic NY |
Aug-14-10 10:32 AM |
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+2 |
emilyg |
Aug-14-10 11:39 AM |
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+11111111111 |
peace frog |
Aug-14-10 11:50 AM |
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+2 |
bbgrunt |
Aug-14-10 12:22 PM |
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the savior of SS and Medicare with his catfood commission. FUCK that and fuck the DLC Corporate new |
Vincardog |
Aug-14-10 01:09 PM |
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Who Appointed the Catfood Commission, Mr. President? |
Demeter |
Aug-14-10 01:23 PM |
#121 |
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Because no matter... |
butterfly77 |
Aug-14-10 01:59 PM |
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Aug-14-10 02:08 PM |
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I heard him speak at an event a while back where he said fixing SS was simple-raise the cap. |
laughingliberal |
Aug-14-10 03:51 PM |
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The second post on this thread already has him giving SS away |
liberal N proud |
Aug-14-10 03:54 PM |
#153 |
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I understand your point... |
laughingliberal |
Aug-14-10 04:30 PM |
#157 |
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It's not "attacking no matter what". The composition of the catfood commission |
nightrain |
Aug-15-10 10:16 AM |
#195 |
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and he once said... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Aug-14-10 09:15 PM |
#174 |
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+2 |
Kokonoe |
Aug-14-10 03:33 PM |
#147 |
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As many have said here; watch the actions, not the words |
Lorien |
Aug-14-10 05:55 PM |
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Yep-everyone should question WHY Obama has rethugs in charge of the catfood commission |
earth mom |
Aug-14-10 06:20 PM |
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We MUST LEARN TO COMPROMISE..Obama is Laying this Out for Us...We Must Comply... |
KoKo |
Aug-14-10 06:24 PM |
#163 |
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Remember the public option? |
Bluesbreaker |
Aug-14-10 10:07 PM |
#177 |
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Has anyone seen Obama promise to not cut benefits? |
MsPithy |
Aug-14-10 11:06 PM |
#180 |
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YUP |
Skittles |
Aug-15-10 12:42 AM |
#189 |
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+1 |
superconnected |
Aug-16-10 02:44 PM |
#202 |
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K&R nt. |
lillypaddle |
Aug-14-10 06:02 AM |
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Where can people view the various SS proposals... |
Eric Galaxy |
Aug-14-10 06:09 AM |
#3 |
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They can't. |
Chef Eric |
Aug-14-10 08:45 AM |
#16 |
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just more transparency... |
northernlights |
Aug-14-10 09:15 AM |
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And the Catfood Commission's recommendations aren't due until December |
dflprincess |
Aug-14-10 09:01 PM |
#173 |
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Ahh yes, there's more of that "transparency"... |
Frisbee |
Aug-14-10 09:19 AM |
#28 |
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They are not trying to destroy it |
Turbineguy |
Aug-14-10 06:22 AM |
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The end result is the same. And the Cat Commission needs |
fogonthelake |
Aug-14-10 07:13 AM |
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Republicans have said that they wish to destroy it |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Aug-14-10 08:38 AM |
#14 |
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Forgot |
Turbineguy |
Aug-14-10 09:54 AM |
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Seems like they want to destroy |
HillbillyBob |
Aug-14-10 10:57 AM |
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If Dems want to get 60 seats in the Senate, we need more of this. |
McCamy Taylor |
Aug-14-10 07:04 AM |
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I agree. //nt |
Overseas |
Aug-14-10 09:20 AM |
#29 |
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Yep. And if we want to keep Social Security from being CUT, we must fight for a progressive Congress |
glitch |
Aug-14-10 09:23 AM |
#30 |
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if only FDR was still here. |nt| |
NYMdaveNYI |
Aug-14-10 09:53 AM |
#47 |
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Hell, I'll take LBJ! nt |
SteveM |
Aug-14-10 02:46 PM |
#138 |
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fuck it, i’ll take William Howard Taft! |
NYMdaveNYI |
Aug-14-10 02:52 PM |
#140 |
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William Howard Taft? |
Art_from_Ark |
Aug-16-10 11:01 PM |
#203 |
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I would run for office if I could. |
HillbillyBob |
Aug-14-10 10:55 AM |
#86 |
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I already asked Landshark to run :) nt |
glitch |
Aug-14-10 08:25 PM |
#168 |
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At this point, Obama is in control of the "Cat Food" activity ... not GOP ... |
defendandprotect |
Aug-14-10 09:43 AM |
#42 |
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yes we do ---we need more FIGHT from this admin. Way to gO! |
wordpix |
Aug-14-10 12:27 PM |
#111 |
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I never "Liked Ike" or "Leave it to Beaver" |
Roci |
Aug-14-10 07:08 AM |
#7 |
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when the Republicans say they will rebuild it they mean that they will destroy it |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Aug-14-10 09:09 AM |
#22 |
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the nostalgia for racist Ike is misplaced. |
No Elephants |
Aug-14-10 10:02 AM |
#57 |
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+1 n/t |
jaysunb |
Aug-14-10 03:07 PM |
#143 |
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Ike wasn't the only one who felt that |
Art_from_Ark |
Aug-17-10 02:11 AM |
#204 |
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Welcome to DU |
eridani |
Aug-14-10 03:51 PM |
#151 |
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If there is a little cash left over after the bills are paid... |
rasputin1952 |
Aug-14-10 07:15 AM |
#9 |
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That's true, Congress should never steal from SS |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Aug-14-10 09:12 AM |
#24 |
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You're standing in front of a barn door |
Yupster |
Aug-14-10 11:09 AM |
#89 |
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I agree with most of your post |
HillbillyBob |
Aug-14-10 09:56 AM |
#49 |
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HillBillybob, I admire your tenacity. |
Lifelong Protester |
Aug-14-10 10:37 AM |
#81 |
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I sat here reading your story, and I can say, in some instances... |
rasputin1952 |
Aug-14-10 12:57 PM |
#118 |
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I understand and it's sad that so many don't. |
unapatriciated |
Aug-14-10 03:32 PM |
#146 |
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while his left hand takes a knife to it |
MannyGoldstein |
Aug-14-10 07:46 AM |
#11 |
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They're not "personal accounts" |
NewJeffCT |
Aug-14-10 08:52 AM |
#17 |
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Excellent points -- and including the term "entitlements" which suggests |
defendandprotect |
Aug-14-10 09:44 AM |
#43 |
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I don't agree. We need to take that word back |
eridani |
Aug-14-10 03:54 PM |
#154 |
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Erskine Bowles and Alan Simpson as Cat Food Commission co-chairs! Hello? |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-10 08:56 AM |
#18 |
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Sssshh! You members of the "professional left" are too concerned with pesky facts. |
Chef Eric |
Aug-14-10 09:11 AM |
#23 |
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Tom Coburn on the CFC, too! |
WorseBeforeBetter |
Aug-14-10 09:27 AM |
#33 |
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Hooray! Look over there, quick! Don't pay attention to the republicans he appointed. |
Safetykitten |
Aug-14-10 11:57 AM |
#104 |
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First the ground zero mosque, now this. |
caseymoz |
Aug-14-10 09:00 AM |
#19 |
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Aug-14-10 09:08 AM |
#21 |
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Thank Dog his catfood commission is going to save it. |
RufusTFirefly |
Aug-14-10 09:14 AM |
#25 |
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The Democratic Party's policy is to preserve Social Security |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Aug-14-10 09:27 AM |
#34 |
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Evidently, you don't understand Obama has set up "Cat Food Panel" loaded with Repugs...???? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-14-10 09:46 AM |
#44 |
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It's Amazing! He's out in front of this...While his "Cat Food Commission works behind his BACK! |
KoKo |
Aug-14-10 07:10 PM |
#165 |
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It's not a claim, they will, it's truth |
DainBramaged |
Aug-14-10 09:26 AM |
#32 |
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The sooner the people hear about it the better! |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Aug-14-10 09:28 AM |
#35 |
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You know, if we had held Republicans accountable for their ill-fated policies, |
The Backlash Cometh |
Aug-14-10 09:36 AM |
#38 |
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Some of us saw it years ago and we were derided as |
HillbillyBob |
Aug-14-10 10:24 AM |
#72 |
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God knows we have had ample opportunities to expose them. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Aug-14-10 10:33 AM |
#78 |
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x1000 |
L0oniX |
Aug-14-10 12:23 PM |
#109 |
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What a farce!! Evidently, Obama has forgotten he set up "Cat Food Commission"--? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-14-10 09:38 AM |
#39 |
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Aug-14-10 02:47 PM |
#139 |
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This is a good message for the Dems this fall....because it's true and it affects everyone. |
Honeycombe8 |
Aug-14-10 09:41 AM |
#40 |
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At this moment, it is Obama attacking Social Security -- see "Cat Food Commission" -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-14-10 09:47 AM |
#45 |
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I did a while back, and found nothing meaningful. I don't know what the broohaha is about |
Honeycombe8 |
Aug-14-10 09:58 AM |
#53 |
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Evidently, you don't consider Repugs in control of Social Security/Medicare dangerous??? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-14-10 10:05 AM |
#61 |
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exactly.... |
fascisthunter |
Aug-14-10 10:02 AM |
#56 |
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Frightening pretense by Obama going on here . . . !! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-14-10 10:06 AM |
#62 |
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I am convinced now |
fascisthunter |
Aug-14-10 10:14 AM |
#68 |
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Well, Cheney said it ..."right wing creates the reality and the rest of it live it..." |
defendandprotect |
Aug-14-10 10:24 AM |
#71 |
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oh, the damage is going to be done, but in the end... |
fascisthunter |
Aug-15-10 10:33 AM |
#197 |
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Agree with you re people . . . . wholeheartedly . . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-15-10 06:14 PM |
#199 |
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Yeah, but are the Dems bright enough to do it? |
texastoast |
Aug-14-10 09:47 AM |
#46 |
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I totally agree. The Dems have been awful about pushing their message this past year. |
Honeycombe8 |
Aug-14-10 09:58 AM |
#52 |
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Obama/New Dem has set up the "Cat Food Commission" .... |
defendandprotect |
Aug-14-10 10:07 AM |
#64 |
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I think they are bright enough...just afraid to make a move |
russspeakeasy |
Aug-14-10 10:10 AM |
#67 |
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Unfortunately, if you scare people enough they often submit to blackmail and compromise. |
bbgrunt |
Aug-14-10 08:44 PM |
#170 |
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Tom Tomorrow Nails It |
tipscommissar |
Aug-14-10 09:59 AM |
#54 |
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Thanks, and welcome to DU. nt |
Chef Eric |
Aug-14-10 10:05 AM |
#60 |
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bullseye! I hadn't seen the whole cartoon. Thank you. |
nightrain |
Aug-14-10 11:11 AM |
#90 |
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With company pensions disappearing, this would only leave personal savings plans! |
DailyGrind51 |
Aug-14-10 10:04 AM |
#59 |
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You get penalized for saving in this country. |
fasttense |
Aug-15-10 05:27 AM |
#194 |
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I don't believe a word ! |
Vinnie From Indy |
Aug-14-10 10:07 AM |
#63 |
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Rahm & Obama Backpedalling from Insulting the Base by Drumming up Red Meat. |
NoodleyAppendage |
Aug-14-10 10:07 AM |
#65 |
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it doesn't even matter if there would or wouldn't be a bail out for retirees today -- this is a |
nilram |
Aug-14-10 10:20 AM |
#69 |
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Obama said nothing in opposition to cuts, means testing or hiking the retirement age in his speech. |
Better Believe It |
Aug-14-10 10:27 AM |
#73 |
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IIRC, Argentina used their stock market for retirement funds for their citizens and |
old mark |
Aug-14-10 10:33 AM |
#77 |
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SURE.... a bailout for retirees... |
orbitalman |
Aug-14-10 10:35 AM |
#79 |
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Claim?!?! They've been trying to do it for years and years. |
RoccoR5955 |
Aug-14-10 10:35 AM |
#80 |
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Will he do something about it |
crim son |
Aug-14-10 10:38 AM |
#82 |
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Any possibility that there is some heat being felt on this issue |
Lifelong Protester |
Aug-14-10 10:44 AM |
#84 |
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All I know is that Wall Street and the repukes have been pushing for years to privatize it. If the |
still_one |
Aug-14-10 10:48 AM |
#85 |
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That's because they want more money, (not their own), to gamble |
rasputin1952 |
Aug-14-10 01:56 PM |
#127 |
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Obama claims GOP trying to destroy Social Security |
NJmaverick |
Aug-14-10 11:18 AM |
#93 |
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This is so important that it should be on DU's front page with 50+ recs! |
Orrex |
Aug-14-10 11:18 AM |
#94 |
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He's right on the money on this one. |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Aug-14-10 11:18 AM |
#95 |
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Republicans, we already have a mechanism for privatization -- IRAs, 401Ks, private savings. |
Hoyt |
Aug-14-10 11:24 AM |
#96 |
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"Everything is on the table" |
pmorlan1 |
Aug-14-10 11:27 AM |
#97 |
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God! Hasn't he learned that you can't start with an open hand when dealing with these political |
The Wielding Truth |
Aug-14-10 08:19 PM |
#167 |
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what a joke |
LadyJ333 |
Aug-14-10 11:39 AM |
#100 |
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Agree. Welcome to DU. |
emilyg |
Aug-14-10 11:41 AM |
#101 |
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also |
LadyJ333 |
Aug-14-10 11:52 AM |
#103 |
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You are correct... |
Iowa |
Aug-14-10 03:12 PM |
#145 |
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Like HCR |
JJW |
Aug-14-10 12:06 PM |
#105 |
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Pukes have been trying to do this for a long time... |
and-justice-for-all |
Aug-14-10 12:10 PM |
#106 |
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Dems and repukes are both destroying this country with their military spending. |
L0oniX |
Aug-14-10 12:26 PM |
#110 |
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After all the speculation, President Obama states definitively that he will protect Social Security |
ProSense |
Aug-14-10 12:27 PM |
#112 |
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With such appointments to the catfood commission |
ooglymoogly |
Aug-14-10 12:33 PM |
#114 |
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Obama also states... |
Frisbee |
Aug-14-10 12:37 PM |
#115 |
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Trust |
JJW |
Aug-14-10 12:51 PM |
#116 |
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No SS COLA in 2010, none projected for 2011. |
GreenStormCloud |
Aug-14-10 12:52 PM |
#117 |
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I haven't gotten a raise in 2 years either |
DatManFromNawlins |
Aug-15-10 03:39 PM |
#198 |
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That NYT article seems to cater entirely to the right. |
go west young man |
Aug-14-10 01:26 PM |
#122 |
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we have a fierce defender on that commission, and she had the ear |
mopinko |
Aug-14-10 01:34 PM |
#123 |
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Uh, aren't the Republicans accusing the Republicans of wanting to destroy it? (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Aug-14-10 01:41 PM |
#124 |
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And yet it is Obama himself who appointed the Catfood Commission |
MadHound |
Aug-14-10 01:44 PM |
#125 |
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Well then maybe he shouldn't have packed the deficit commission w/ Repubs |
DWilliamsamh |
Aug-14-10 01:45 PM |
#126 |
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This point and others like it are extremely well taken. |
Faygo Kid |
Aug-14-10 02:22 PM |
#131 |
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Incredible how the 'small gummint' GOopers are always at the bar |
rurallib |
Aug-14-10 02:26 PM |
#133 |
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"Obama claims........" |
pnorman |
Aug-14-10 02:26 PM |
#134 |
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Aug-14-10 02:28 PM |
#135 |
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Right. n/t |
totodeinhere |
Aug-14-10 02:46 PM |
#137 |
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Perfect politics except |
PATRICK |
Aug-14-10 03:08 PM |
#144 |
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Please tell us something we don't know. Of course they want to destroy it. |
totodeinhere |
Aug-14-10 02:45 PM |
#136 |
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Aug-14-10 02:53 PM |
#141 |
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Wow, that's not a very flattering picture of today's young people. |
totodeinhere |
Aug-14-10 03:01 PM |
#142 |
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Well, it was a little inflammatory, perhaps to goad some action. |
SteveM |
Aug-14-10 04:01 PM |
#156 |
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Trying to destroy social security |
purgetheGOPforever |
Aug-14-10 03:41 PM |
#148 |
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Yes, Mr. President. With the aid of conservadems on your very own |
eridani |
Aug-14-10 03:47 PM |
#149 |
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THe GOP wants to destroy democracy... |
Hubert Flottz |
Aug-14-10 03:52 PM |
#152 |
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The won't come out and say it directly |
TexasProgresive |
Aug-14-10 03:55 PM |
#155 |
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No one has mentioned Pelosi's sell-out... |
CTuttle |
Aug-14-10 04:52 PM |
#158 |
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They will need |
Dan |
Aug-15-10 02:12 AM |
#192 |
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I seriously believe |
awoke_in_2003 |
Aug-14-10 09:00 PM |
#172 |
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then why set up a deficit commission packed with Republicans who want to eliminate SS? |
yurbud |
Aug-14-10 09:56 PM |
#176 |
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"Claims" is a very tentative word in this context. |
bigmonkey |
Aug-14-10 10:19 PM |
#179 |
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75 years ago today on this date....Aug. 14, 1935 - FDR Signs Social Security Act ....... |
LaPera |
Aug-14-10 11:09 PM |
#181 |
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There's an awful lot of merit to that claim. |
burnsei sensei |
Aug-14-10 11:19 PM |
#183 |
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As someone on this thread earlier |
easilynervous |
Aug-15-10 12:28 AM |
#188 |
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republicans are thieves, they've been trying to steal soc. sec. since reagan |
pitohui |
Aug-15-10 01:15 AM |
#191 |
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it's not just Republicans though, sadly... |
nightrain |
Aug-15-10 10:18 AM |
#196 |
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Somehow I knew...... |
bobburgster |
Aug-15-10 05:05 AM |
#193 |
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Glad he's telling the truth for a change. |
Vidar |
Aug-15-10 07:32 PM |
#200 |
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