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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 12:13 PM
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31. I support going after both, as both are criminals
Frankly, "well, he gets to do it" is not an argument I lend much credence to.
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  -Report: More crossers are being deported Ptah  Aug-04-10 12:32 PM   #0 
  - This is so sad. How many families are being torn apart because of stupid laws?  Xenotime   Aug-04-10 12:54 PM   #1 
  - "Dem laws is dem laws" crush-the-weaker fetishists in 3... 2... 1...  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Aug-04-10 01:05 PM   #2 
  - Yes ... some families are being torn apart ...  Kweli4Real   Aug-04-10 01:12 PM   #3 
  - These criminals are in many cases young and foolish, and believe me,  JDPriestly   Aug-04-10 04:05 PM   #6 
  - What criminals are you talking about?  EFerrari   Aug-04-10 10:40 PM   #11 
     - The criminals who are immigrants and are deported due  JDPriestly   Aug-05-10 02:06 AM   #13 
  - That's the hype but there's no indication that it's true. nt  EFerrari   Aug-04-10 10:39 PM   #10 
     - It is true. Go to an immigration court, especially one that  JDPriestly   Aug-05-10 02:09 AM   #14 
        - Once they're deported they can NEVER come back unless they post a $3000 bond  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-05-10 06:47 AM   #15 
        - For a poor mother with other children living here, that means that she  JDPriestly   Aug-05-10 12:22 PM   #32 
        - One of my former students told me "My dad might as well be dead"  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-05-10 02:10 PM   #40 
        - Witnesses may be eligible for the U Visa program  pinboy3niner   Aug-05-10 01:10 PM   #33 
           - The two I know personally were just witnesses, not victims.  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-05-10 02:11 PM   #41 
        - They really ought not be committing those crimes. I mean come on.  superconnected   Aug-05-10 01:56 PM   #39 
        - No, what I mean is, two things. One, Mexican immigrants  EFerrari   Aug-05-10 10:21 PM   #59 
           - Illegal immigrants have a 100% rate of criminal behavior.  Lightning Count   Aug-06-10 09:08 AM   #62 
              - Well, no. They don't. n/t  EFerrari   Aug-06-10 12:52 PM   #65 
                 - Yes, they do. They are here illegally, which means they are  Luciferous   Aug-06-10 03:18 PM   #68 
  - Hopefully, this guy is sent back by those stupid laws.  Lightning Count   Aug-04-10 01:25 PM   #5 
  - Why do you say that? Doesn't he have human rights just like everyone else?  Xenotime   Aug-05-10 08:02 AM   #18 
     - He has the human right to be sent back for trial.  Lightning Count   Aug-05-10 09:37 AM   #20 
        - No "sending back" for trial for him -  lynne   Aug-05-10 10:58 AM   #26 
           - Guess you get the human right of the punishment phase of your home country then. nt  Lightning Count   Aug-05-10 11:02 AM   #27 
              - More like the rights of the punishment phase of his victim's country -  lynne   Aug-05-10 11:09 AM   #28 
  - Few necessarily so.  Igel   Aug-04-10 07:45 PM   #7 
  - Agreed. Why parents would choose to leave there kids here is beyond me.  joeglow3   Aug-04-10 10:29 PM   #9 
     - Because they have a better life here; it's actually very easy to understand.  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-05-10 06:52 AM   #16 
        - But then, it is THEIR decision to split up the family  joeglow3   Aug-05-10 07:52 AM   #17 
           - Actually it's not  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-05-10 08:16 AM   #19 
           - As do I.  joeglow3   Aug-05-10 10:18 AM   #21 
              - And I am inclined to blame the employers who hire the workers  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-05-10 10:40 AM   #22 
              - If the workers have ID, then is it a crime?  Lightning Count   Aug-05-10 10:41 AM   #23 
                 - If a liquor store sells booze to a minor with a fake ID, what happens?  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-05-10 10:47 AM   #24 
                    - Not sure.  Lightning Count   Aug-05-10 10:50 AM   #25 
                       - The store owner is penalized  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-05-10 11:16 AM   #29 
                          - Shouldn't be that way though....  Lightning Count   Aug-05-10 11:21 AM   #30 
                             - The law expects store owners to be experts  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-05-10 01:24 PM   #34 
                                - So Arizona would be in-line with that if they expected their officers to be immigration experts.  Lightning Count   Aug-05-10 01:42 PM   #36 
                                   - Don't contractors need permits?  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-05-10 02:14 PM   #42 
                                      - If you're working on the books....  Lightning Count   Aug-05-10 02:20 PM   #43 
                                         - It was also very easy to buy liquor under age when I was young  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-05-10 04:29 PM   #44 
                                            - We didn't have holograms or RFID chips when I was a kid either.  Lightning Count   Aug-05-10 04:41 PM   #45 
                                               - Or cell phones or personal computers  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-05-10 05:12 PM   #47 
                                               - There were good and bad things.  Lightning Count   Aug-05-10 05:16 PM   #48 
                                               - I imagine selectivity...  LanternWaste   Aug-06-10 02:01 PM   #66 
              - I support going after both, as both are criminals  joeglow3   Aug-05-10 12:13 PM   #31 
                 - I don't consider kids who are brought here by their parents to be criminals  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-05-10 01:29 PM   #35 
                    - In almost all cases, the kid is not the criminal  joeglow3   Aug-05-10 01:46 PM   #37 
           - Decisions made under duress...  LanternWaste   Aug-06-10 10:11 AM   #64 
  - The folks I hear carrying on about immigration  Mopar151   Aug-04-10 01:23 PM   #4 
  - no but how about  MikeW   Aug-05-10 05:50 PM   #49 
     - What does America look like to you, Mike?  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-05-10 07:57 PM   #51 
     - nice dodge ... nice attempt to deflect the issue  MikeW   Aug-05-10 08:36 PM   #54 
        - It's not a deflection, Mike  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-05-10 09:04 PM   #55 
           - CCSF has a very nice explination  MikeW   Aug-06-10 06:27 AM   #60 
           - The irony is  Mopar151   Aug-06-10 10:04 AM   #63 
     - You realize that Spanish was spoken in Florida long before English, right?  EFerrari   Aug-05-10 10:12 PM   #57 
        - And many languages before that.  Lightning Count   Aug-06-10 09:07 AM   #61 
           - Whoooooooooooooooosh.  EFerrari   Aug-06-10 02:42 PM   #67 
  - See what overturning Prop 8 can lead to?  thereismore   Aug-04-10 10:28 PM   #8 
  - Obama promised reform, not deportation. nt  EFerrari   Aug-04-10 10:42 PM   #12 
     - he never promissed to end deportation  MikeW   Aug-05-10 07:43 PM   #50 
        - Consequences for who, Mike?  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-05-10 07:59 PM   #52 
        - consequences for both parties  MikeW   Aug-05-10 08:27 PM   #53 
           - Define the parties.  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-05-10 09:06 PM   #56 
        - There is no comprehensive reform right now. There is only deportation.  EFerrari   Aug-05-10 10:13 PM   #58 
  - I would be fine with this if they would deport them within even a few months of crossing.  superconnected   Aug-05-10 01:53 PM   #38 
  - I keep thinking that "crosser" sounds like British slang for cross-dresser  slackmaster   Aug-05-10 05:07 PM   #46 

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