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Sat Mar-27-04 11:13 AM
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did the very same thing with the medicare bill. They hid the truth and the they lied. And now they are trying to cover up.
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| -West Virginia Senator on Iraq: "My Vote Was Wrong." |
mobuto |
Mar-27-04 10:37 AM |
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wow |
newsguyatl |
Mar-27-04 10:42 AM |
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Why would Kerry do that? |
Pastiche423 |
Mar-27-04 11:06 AM |
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So now that shrub has made the mess, Kerry is supposed to just walk away |
murielm99 |
Mar-27-04 12:42 PM |
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What clue might that be? |
Pastiche423 |
Mar-27-04 01:31 PM |
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Get a clue - Iraq is the new Viet Nam. |
Zhade |
Mar-27-04 02:32 PM |
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murielm99, I believe the... |
0007 |
Mar-28-04 06:00 AM |
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He could involve the UN |
Classical_Liberal |
Mar-28-04 06:39 PM |
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I'm curious why you repeat that lie |
Dookus |
Mar-27-04 01:48 PM |
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Add or replace |
Pastiche423 |
Mar-27-04 02:14 PM |
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what does it matter? |
Dookus |
Mar-27-04 03:01 PM |
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Another nuance |
Layman |
Mar-28-04 03:21 AM |
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If you are correct. I will still vote for him. While holding my nose. |
wildwww2 |
Mar-28-04 05:16 PM |
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I agree. I wish Kerry would have a bit of mea culpa bout this whole thing |
mzmolly |
Mar-27-04 01:48 PM |
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post this in general discussion. |
newsguyatl |
Mar-27-04 10:44 AM |
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The scandal is ratcheting up |
ChompySnack |
Mar-27-04 10:44 AM |
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it's a bit late dumbass |
treepig |
Mar-27-04 10:47 AM |
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No no, he's a politician! |
yardwork |
Mar-27-04 01:18 PM |
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I know few politicians who demonstrate unfettered courage,... |
Just Me |
Mar-27-04 01:23 PM |
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Agreed... |
rednek_Liberal |
Mar-28-04 11:05 PM |
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I have a hard time with this. A Rockefeller who doesn't know the ME? |
KoKo01 |
Mar-27-04 10:49 AM |
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By all means... |
sadiesworld |
Mar-27-04 10:55 AM |
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you don't think that the bush enablers are a real problem?? |
treepig |
Mar-27-04 10:58 AM |
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No, my point was that Rockefeller had to have known. He should have |
KoKo01 |
Mar-27-04 01:07 PM |
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See my comments above. It's all politics. Reelection politics. |
yardwork |
Mar-27-04 01:19 PM |
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i agree he knew |
treepig |
Mar-27-04 01:22 PM |
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Good point regarding Byrd. |
Zhade |
Mar-27-04 02:36 PM |
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No personal offense, but,...you are in denial about that game,... |
Just Me |
Mar-27-04 03:02 PM |
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You're right, let's just vote for Bush b/c we KNOW HE'S EVIL. |
sadiesworld |
Mar-27-04 02:35 PM |
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i'm glad you agree! |
treepig |
Mar-27-04 03:23 PM |
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I, too, wonder what the f--- took him so long, but hey, redemption is |
calimary |
Mar-27-04 01:23 PM |
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Bush is even more ignorant than Rockefeller just admitted |
Classical_Liberal |
Mar-28-04 06:41 PM |
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finally. |
GloriaSmith |
Mar-27-04 10:49 AM |
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It's hard to believe they were really fooled |
boobooday |
Mar-27-04 10:54 AM |
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It's hard to believe that 3/4 of the country was fooled, |
FlaGranny |
Mar-27-04 03:28 PM |
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How many politicians |
PaDUer |
Mar-27-04 05:15 PM |
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We need his resignation not his regrets. |
Barkley |
Mar-27-04 10:54 AM |
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Don't be ridiculous |
mobuto |
Mar-27-04 10:56 AM |
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These guys voted for the IWR knowing it was wrong and |
Barkley |
Mar-28-04 03:21 PM |
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Agreed his senior Senator was the most opposed to this |
underpants |
Mar-27-04 11:02 AM |
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They |
ezee |
Mar-27-04 11:13 AM |
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The Medicare bill is another perfect example |
underpants |
Mar-27-04 11:33 AM |
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Yeah! Welcome to DU! |
calimary |
Mar-27-04 01:26 PM |
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And replace him with what? |
aquart |
Mar-27-04 12:00 PM |
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Lets dont and say we did.... |
Dr Fate |
Mar-28-04 05:55 PM |
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You SHOULD HAVE known then what you know now, we did. |
leesa |
Mar-27-04 10:59 AM |
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The Rats |
ezee |
Mar-27-04 11:09 AM |
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The Democratic ship is taking on water? |
aquart |
Mar-27-04 12:03 PM |
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I find it hard to believe they did not know their vote was wrong |
Skittles |
Mar-27-04 11:27 AM |
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I think the problem is that we knew they were wrong |
Jackpine Radical |
Mar-27-04 11:37 AM |
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the stolen election should have been their first clue |
Skittles |
Mar-27-04 11:51 AM |
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Agree Skittles and Jackpine. tried to say that above and got flamed. |
KoKo01 |
Mar-27-04 01:09 PM |
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people who supported the war have blood on their hands |
Skittles |
Mar-27-04 01:10 PM |
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Well, some people don't like uncomfortable truths. |
Zhade |
Mar-27-04 02:54 PM |
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you nail it, Zhade |
Skittles |
Mar-27-04 03:26 PM |
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Second clue - |
2cents |
Mar-27-04 02:14 PM |
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You also must remember the mind control games the republi-CONS |
calimary |
Mar-27-04 01:43 PM |
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Bravo! You are absolutely right! I remember it well. |
yardwork |
Mar-27-04 02:32 PM |
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Waxman is my Rep, too. |
Zhade |
Mar-27-04 03:08 PM |
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Now there's a telling quote! |
Zhade |
Mar-27-04 02:45 PM |
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Hey, Skittles |
lazarus |
Mar-27-04 11:40 AM |
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you know it Laz |
Skittles |
Mar-27-04 11:53 AM |
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Wrong Vote People |
goclark |
Mar-27-04 11:50 AM |
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Aw, MAN! I remember that. I, too, was a little un-nerved. |
calimary |
Mar-27-04 01:49 PM |
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But Powell has ALWAYS been a Republican lapdog. |
Zhade |
Mar-27-04 03:17 PM |
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Good work, folks. Berate people who have seen the light. |
WillyBrandt |
Mar-27-04 11:38 AM |
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I absolutely disagree |
Skittles |
Mar-27-04 11:55 AM |
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That's false |
WillyBrandt |
Mar-27-04 12:04 PM |
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they must have know it was a packof lies in nov02 |
treepig |
Mar-27-04 12:10 PM |
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that's false |
Skittles |
Mar-27-04 12:51 PM |
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...and if memory serves.....the White House and Congress were inundated |
Dover |
Mar-27-04 12:24 PM |
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There was never a case for war. |
Zhade |
Mar-27-04 03:30 PM |
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Some of the posts to this thread have my BS meter pegged |
NNN0LHI |
Mar-27-04 11:40 AM |
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that is why I think Kerry should do the same thing as Rockefeller |
frank frankly |
Mar-27-04 11:44 AM |
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I always knew it was bullshit |
Skittles |
Mar-27-04 12:00 PM |
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Do you mean bullshit as in there was nothing worth going to war over... |
NNN0LHI |
Mar-27-04 12:22 PM |
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I said it didn't matter |
Skittles |
Mar-27-04 12:49 PM |
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But it did matter after all. It now appears the Bush cherry picked... |
NNN0LHI |
Mar-27-04 01:00 PM |
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what they SAID and what they DID |
Skittles |
Mar-27-04 01:09 PM |
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Mike Ruppert's theory |
Sophree |
Mar-28-04 02:58 AM |
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Good point, Don |
lazarus |
Mar-27-04 01:05 PM |
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M y question is this |
jamesinca |
Mar-27-04 12:18 PM |
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"Most everyone did" |
Pastiche423 |
Mar-27-04 12:27 PM |
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Show me one of your posts where you say there are Ø WMDs in Iraq... |
NNN0LHI |
Mar-27-04 12:34 PM |
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How convenient for you that the archives are not searchable |
Pastiche423 |
Mar-27-04 01:25 PM |
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As I recall |
WhereIsMyFreedom |
Mar-27-04 01:41 PM |
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They're all clairvoyants |
sandnsea |
Mar-27-04 12:29 PM |
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General Hussein Kamal - what an arrogant asshole! |
treepig |
Mar-27-04 12:41 PM |
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Like I said |
sandnsea |
Mar-27-04 12:49 PM |
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a complete lack of critical thinking |
treepig |
Mar-27-04 01:13 PM |
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Yes, exactly |
sandnsea |
Mar-27-04 01:19 PM |
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but it turns out that i did know |
treepig |
Mar-27-04 01:35 PM |
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No, it turns out that you were right |
WhereIsMyFreedom |
Mar-27-04 01:47 PM |
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the evidence was overwhelming |
treepig |
Mar-27-04 02:03 PM |
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Nonsense |
mobuto |
Mar-27-04 02:33 PM |
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really? |
treepig |
Mar-27-04 03:30 PM |
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My point is that |
mobuto |
Mar-27-04 03:43 PM |
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I read them too |
sandnsea |
Mar-27-04 03:12 PM |
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a bit sensitive |
treepig |
Mar-27-04 03:40 PM |
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Oh, take Saddam's word |
sandnsea |
Mar-27-04 05:05 PM |
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well, it turns out he was the one telling the truth |
treepig |
Mar-27-04 08:45 PM |
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No, YOU did it |
sandnsea |
Mar-28-04 02:08 AM |
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my point was that you were telling untruths about the situation |
treepig |
Mar-28-04 06:27 AM |
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You speak of a complete lack of critical thinking |
mobuto |
Mar-27-04 01:23 PM |
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did i say anything about 50 million frenchmen? |
treepig |
Mar-27-04 01:40 PM |
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French-bashing? |
mobuto |
Mar-27-04 01:48 PM |
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have you heard of consensus? |
treepig |
Mar-27-04 02:00 PM |
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Bullshit |
mobuto |
Mar-27-04 02:07 PM |
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sure, be condescending about the collective wisdom of billions of people |
treepig |
Mar-27-04 03:21 PM |
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Again, you appeal to popularity |
mobuto |
Mar-27-04 03:38 PM |
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egad |
treepig |
Mar-27-04 03:56 PM |
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Its the process that's being compared |
mobuto |
Mar-27-04 08:49 PM |
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but when the "experts" are a bunch of stooges or fools |
treepig |
Mar-28-04 08:20 AM |
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the UN inspectors went into Iraq and found nothing |
jmcgowanjm |
Mar-27-04 01:30 PM |
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It has never been about "banned weapons" |
TahitiNut |
Mar-27-04 02:27 PM |
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I didn't believe Saddam Hussein had WMD before we went into Iraq |
0007 |
Mar-28-04 06:35 AM |
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It wouldn't have mattered even if Hussein DID have WMDs! |
Zhade |
Mar-28-04 03:42 AM |
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Especially when you openly call it "Shock & Awe." |
Sophree |
Mar-28-04 03:53 AM |
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Fair enough. I'll amend it to say "terrorism happens in all war". |
Zhade |
Mar-28-04 04:04 AM |
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absolutely |
Sophree |
Mar-28-04 04:20 AM |
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"the Democratic-led Senate"???????? |
kstewart33 |
Mar-27-04 11:52 AM |
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Actually, that's technically correct |
mobuto |
Mar-27-04 11:57 AM |
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As I recall, Bush* had the votes in the Senate wrapped up. |
keopeli |
Mar-27-04 12:36 PM |
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keo, I agree with you. |
yardwork |
Mar-27-04 01:38 PM |
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Wellstone died AFTER the vote |
ButterflyBlood |
Mar-27-04 05:59 PM |
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Why did Dems continue to vote to funnel billions into the Pentagon budget |
Dover |
Mar-27-04 12:43 PM |
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WP headline: Clarke book reignites Iraq debate |
JoFerret |
Mar-27-04 12:43 PM |
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Snip from that article: |
calimary |
Mar-27-04 02:28 PM |
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Too late for 600 Americans and me. |
sleipnir |
Mar-27-04 01:20 PM |
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I would venture to guess many of the senate feels this way today. |
mzmolly |
Mar-27-04 01:48 PM |
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SenJohn D. Rockefeller IV-Senate Floor-Iraq Resolution |
jmcgowanjm |
Mar-27-04 02:05 PM |
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Rockefeller didn't know what was going on |
mobuto |
Mar-27-04 02:09 PM |
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I was about to say I agree w/ you Mobuto |
jmcgowanjm |
Mar-27-04 02:46 PM |
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Rockefeller may be rich |
mobuto |
Mar-27-04 08:51 PM |
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I don't get it Mobuto |
NNN0LHI |
Mar-28-04 08:39 AM |
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yes, Rockefeller was doing a CYA manuever |
jmcgowanjm |
Mar-28-04 09:04 AM |
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Headlines from October2002- commondreams |
jmcgowanjm |
Mar-27-04 02:14 PM |
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Jeez, Jay the Wimpazoid |
Carolina |
Mar-27-04 02:05 PM |
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Roger that! |
KeepItReal |
Mar-27-04 03:07 PM |
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I knew. Why didn't he? |
hackwriter |
Mar-27-04 02:23 PM |
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geez |
Tommy |
Mar-27-04 03:01 PM |
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Google: Rockefeller+Conspiracy/ Only Duponts, Kennedys |
jmcgowanjm |
Mar-27-04 03:46 PM |
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Ah, but since Rockefeller Conspiracy |
mobuto |
Mar-27-04 03:59 PM |
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No, that would be the Rothschild Conspiracy-12,100 hits |
jmcgowanjm |
Mar-28-04 09:27 AM |
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Thank you, Jay |
remfan |
Mar-27-04 03:38 PM |
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Here's another "Thank You" |
LiviaOlivia |
Mar-27-04 03:45 PM |
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Good for him |
wryter2000 |
Mar-27-04 04:32 PM |
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Senator Dianne Feinstein Has Already Said The Same Thing. |
David Zephyr |
Mar-27-04 05:12 PM |
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Honestly |
Sophree |
Mar-28-04 03:20 AM |
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If WE knew...why were THEY fooled?? |
SoCalDem |
Mar-28-04 02:54 AM |
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Ive often asked myself that same question. |
Sophree |
Mar-28-04 03:15 AM |
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More on Sen. Rockefeller |
Sophree |
Mar-28-04 04:01 AM |
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Good, and this-timeline of CheneyNigerWilsonSOTU |
jmcgowanjm |
Mar-28-04 10:16 AM |
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More on the Neocons being reined in |
Sophree |
Mar-28-04 04:22 AM |
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Kerry, Clinton, Dashle (not sure about Shurmer, Edwards) say that we |
higher class |
Mar-28-04 12:45 PM |
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All those finger-in-the-wind Senators and Congresspeople are sorry |
higher class |
Mar-28-04 12:50 PM |
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Well, it *is* their job to represent their constituency... |
Ravy |
Mar-28-04 01:11 PM |
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I see you have only posted about 145 messages. Perhaps |
higher class |
Mar-28-04 04:49 PM |
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There's Something To Be Said For Representation |
LoneStarLiberal |
Mar-28-04 05:37 PM |
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Sorry, you made a good case, but I just can't bare the killings |
higher class |
Mar-28-04 06:42 PM |
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Naivety and Blue Dogs |
LoneStarLiberal |
Mar-28-04 10:31 PM |
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Bravo!!!....The beginning of a long healing process! |
goforit |
Mar-28-04 01:20 PM |
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Jay, you also said last summer there was no morale problem in the army |
lebkuchen |
Mar-28-04 02:18 PM |
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