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| 149. Interesting - but is this how racism works? |
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I posted this thread recently http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... but oddly am not able to reply. Why? Racism is when someone of a specific ethnicity is handled with kid gloves while others would be handled differently. The Polanski situation is about pure racism. The select few get immunity while most others would get imprisonment and extradition. There is no other answer why a scum bag such as Roman Polanksi was given immunity for an egregious crime when he has given nothing to society at large. Money and power shouldn't mean immunity.
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| -Switzerland won't extradite Polanski to the U.S. |
IDemo |
Jul-12-10 07:09 AM |
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So I guess Switzerland is a great place to hide drug money and pedophiles. |
marmar |
Jul-12-10 07:10 AM |
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Laundering pedophiles doesn't work |
pinboy3niner |
Jul-12-10 07:15 AM |
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Excellent post....... |
backtomn |
Jul-12-10 09:07 AM |
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Except this wasn't pedophilia, which is a psychiatric condition... |
TreasonousBastard |
Jul-12-10 07:51 AM |
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Fine....A great place for hiding men wanted for having illegal sex with minors. |
marmar |
Jul-12-10 07:57 AM |
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Please, keep facts out of this |
Bragi |
Jul-12-10 07:59 AM |
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He drugged and raped a minor -- how is being against that "self righteous? |
LostinVA |
Jul-12-10 08:17 AM |
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No-one is speaking in favour of the crime |
Bragi |
Jul-12-10 08:32 AM |
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You are. nt |
Romulox |
Jul-12-10 09:10 AM |
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When and where? /nt |
Bragi |
Jul-12-10 09:11 AM |
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Throughout this thread. |
Romulox |
Jul-12-10 09:16 AM |
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Self delete |
LanternWaste |
Jul-12-10 01:37 PM |
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OK........Pederast. |
backtomn |
Jul-12-10 09:10 AM |
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I imagine for the same reason... |
LanternWaste |
Jul-12-10 01:38 PM |
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Tell that to the people involved with the Catholic Church Pedophilia cases. |
happyslug |
Jul-12-10 02:05 PM |
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Not just drug money. Corporate money and Nazi money. |
onehandle |
Jul-12-10 08:17 AM |
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But the US would never dirty its hands like that, huh, cowboy? |
Heidi |
Jul-12-10 02:15 PM |
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Just saw it live on Swiss TV. |
Heidi |
Jul-12-10 07:19 AM |
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Good for the Swiss |
Bragi |
Jul-12-10 07:22 AM |
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Sorry, no |
Kelvin Mace |
Jul-12-10 07:31 AM |
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great point |
davidinalameda |
Jul-12-10 07:36 AM |
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Even if she was of the age of consent it was still rape. nt |
SunnySong |
Jul-12-10 10:29 AM |
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Since drugs were used |
Kelvin Mace |
Jul-12-10 01:46 PM |
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even better point |
davidinalameda |
Jul-12-10 03:53 PM |
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Implying that she apparently holds no grievance at this point |
Bragi |
Jul-12-10 07:38 AM |
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She isn't the one bringing the charges, the State is |
LostinVA |
Jul-12-10 08:23 AM |
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That's not the actual sequence of events that happened. |
TheWraith |
Jul-12-10 09:42 AM |
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Show me the law that requires a judge to follow the report? |
msanthrope |
Jul-12-10 12:03 PM |
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Such is the peril of plea bargains |
Kelvin Mace |
Jul-12-10 01:55 PM |
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Wrong place ... n/t |
cosmicone |
Jul-12-10 02:30 PM |
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+1 |
Mad_Dem_X |
Jul-12-10 10:17 AM |
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Shocked me too |
Kelvin Mace |
Jul-12-10 01:53 PM |
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So...... |
backtomn |
Jul-12-10 09:16 AM |
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Exactly! |
Kelvin Mace |
Jul-12-10 01:58 PM |
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Hmmmm.... |
Kelvin Mace |
Jul-12-10 01:51 PM |
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this doesn't have anything to do with a statute of limitations. |
harmonicon |
Jul-12-10 08:23 AM |
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Thanks |
backtomn |
Jul-12-10 09:17 AM |
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i thought that he was |
cstanleytech |
Jul-12-10 11:38 AM |
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Read the plea testimony--the judge was crystal clear. |
msanthrope |
Jul-12-10 12:07 PM |
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Except |
cstanleytech |
Jul-12-10 03:56 PM |
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Here's the bottom line |
Kelvin Mace |
Jul-12-10 05:15 PM |
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Maybe, maybe not. |
cstanleytech |
Jul-12-10 09:50 PM |
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True, but I still hold |
Kelvin Mace |
Jul-13-10 07:51 AM |
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Well, I myself always trust news articles over actual court transcripts. |
msanthrope |
Jul-12-10 05:39 PM |
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Actually it could be argued by his lawyers that it "had" |
cstanleytech |
Jul-12-10 09:53 PM |
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True |
Kelvin Mace |
Jul-12-10 01:45 PM |
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see there was an arrest and conviction statue of limitations never applied |
grantcart |
Jul-12-10 03:03 PM |
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Thanks for the clarification |
Kelvin Mace |
Jul-12-10 04:48 PM |
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Yes, you he can go around and rape more teenage girls. |
Odin2005 |
Jul-12-10 07:42 AM |
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Yeah sure, that nails it |
Bragi |
Jul-12-10 07:48 AM |
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Your putting "victim" is scare quotes shows how much concern you have for rape victims. |
Odin2005 |
Jul-12-10 08:00 AM |
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Yeah, right |
Bragi |
Jul-12-10 08:30 AM |
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LOL, out justice system is broken because we throw pot smokers in jail. |
Odin2005 |
Jul-12-10 08:35 AM |
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No one receives "justice" |
ProudDad |
Jul-13-10 05:58 PM |
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I would rather be a tea bagger |
The Green Manalishi |
Jul-12-10 08:56 AM |
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Hear, hear Bragi... |
Surya Gayatri |
Jul-12-10 09:10 AM |
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So what is your position??? |
backtomn |
Jul-12-10 09:24 AM |
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The rec for his "time" was probation... |
Hepburn |
Jul-12-10 09:49 AM |
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Show me where the judge is obliged to follow a probation report reccomendation? |
msanthrope |
Jul-12-10 11:57 AM |
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Calling out DU'ers as tea baggers? |
Darth_Kitten |
Jul-12-10 04:52 PM |
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You really need to quit putting "victim" in quotes -- she was a victim |
LostinVA |
Jul-12-10 08:24 AM |
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Agreed |
Bragi |
Jul-12-10 09:10 AM |
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the guy has already been prosecuted. |
harmonicon |
Jul-12-10 08:25 AM |
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A "working justice system!" |
Bragi |
Jul-12-10 08:39 AM |
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IT IS NOT VENGEANCE....... |
backtomn |
Jul-12-10 09:20 AM |
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Your In-Quotes "VIctim" Was a Scared 13 Year Old Kid |
NashVegas |
Jul-12-10 10:04 AM |
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Why is "victim" in quotes -- he drugged and raped her! |
LostinVA |
Jul-12-10 08:20 AM |
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Why would anyone have the right? |
yava |
Jul-12-10 10:15 PM |
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The problem with our society |
Kelvin Mace |
Jul-13-10 08:06 AM |
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"this ancient demeanor"? You must've meant "ancient MISdemeanor", but that, too, is wrong. |
Romulox |
Jul-12-10 09:05 AM |
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Couldn't agree more, Bragi, even though |
Surya Gayatri |
Jul-12-10 09:07 AM |
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Right, it's only a raped and sodomized girl. |
Darth_Kitten |
Jul-12-10 04:55 PM |
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WHAT ??? |
backtomn |
Jul-12-10 09:13 AM |
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Absolutely. He did ply a 13-year old girl with champagne and Qualudes and anally rape her |
Nye Bevan |
Jul-12-10 09:38 AM |
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Yes, we need to remember that. : ) |
backtomn |
Jul-12-10 09:43 AM |
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What is the precise and relevant amount of time after a rape one should "move on? |
LanternWaste |
Jul-12-10 01:40 PM |
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Something illegal took place...time doesn't make it vanish n.t |
TK421 |
Jul-12-10 04:41 PM |
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Let's hear it for child rape? |
Darth_Kitten |
Jul-12-10 04:51 PM |
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Yeah, child-rape is soooo not a big deal. |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 06:35 PM |
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BOO on Switzerland! |
Odin2005 |
Jul-12-10 07:41 AM |
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'The Justice Ministry also said that NATIONAL INTERESTS were taken into consideration...' |
onehandle |
Jul-12-10 07:48 AM |
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Here's a possibility |
Bragi |
Jul-12-10 07:55 AM |
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Ah, yes, punishing rapists is so cruel, isn't it? /sarcasm |
Odin2005 |
Jul-12-10 08:00 AM |
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That's not what they said. nt |
onehandle |
Jul-12-10 08:01 AM |
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Jul-12-10 09:08 AM |
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I don't agree with this decision; however, if some good can come of it, |
closeupready |
Jul-12-10 09:18 AM |
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I've seen enough of your anti-Switzerland screeds to take your |
Heidi |
Jul-12-10 08:03 AM |
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Switzerland is the world HQ for money-laundering, Nazi gold, and child molesters. |
Romulox |
Jul-12-10 09:09 AM |
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I do not for a moment doubt the parts about money-laundering and Nazi gold. |
Heidi |
Jul-12-10 09:17 AM |
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As a next door neighbor (in France) |
Surya Gayatri |
Jul-12-10 09:49 AM |
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Harboring a racist who fled after a guilty verdict |
DatManFromNawlins |
Jul-12-10 10:45 AM |
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See post N° 35 to get some perspective on |
Surya Gayatri |
Jul-12-10 11:05 AM |
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French, are you? Ira Einhorn eliminated any moral superiority |
msanthrope |
Jul-12-10 11:46 AM |
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" The Swiss are all about the Swiss. Nobody else counts." |
depakid |
Jul-12-10 08:06 AM |
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Exactly. (nt) |
Heidi |
Jul-12-10 08:07 AM |
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I don't understand |
Bitwit1234 |
Jul-12-10 08:11 AM |
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Because he was found guilty |
revolution breeze |
Jul-12-10 08:19 AM |
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Because he was sentenced, and then fled |
LostinVA |
Jul-12-10 08:28 AM |
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I wouldn't send a dog to a U.S prison |
Bragi |
Jul-12-10 08:36 AM |
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Jul-12-10 09:12 AM |
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So....you would not send a serial killer to a US prison?? |
backtomn |
Jul-12-10 09:38 AM |
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For kicks, you should read up on the extradition of Charles Ng |
msanthrope |
Jul-12-10 12:19 PM |
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Jul-12-10 10:29 AM |
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Your experience is academic or practical? |
LanternWaste |
Jul-12-10 02:29 PM |
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Because some people can't let it go. The victim would rather... |
TreasonousBastard |
Jul-12-10 08:44 AM |
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It is JUSTICE, not rage. |
backtomn |
Jul-12-10 09:34 AM |
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Whose justice? It's become a symbol, with a megaphone, for... |
TreasonousBastard |
Jul-12-10 09:59 AM |
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He pleaded guilty...... |
backtomn |
Jul-12-10 09:30 AM |
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hey Switzerland: |
melm00se |
Jul-12-10 08:22 AM |
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Hey America- and Americans- if you care so much about children |
depakid |
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Alert! Alert! Alert! |
Romulox |
Jul-12-10 04:31 PM |
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Hear, hear depakid. |
Surya Gayatri |
Jul-12-10 09:27 AM |
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Not germane to the discussion at hand |
Kelvin Mace |
Jul-13-10 07:48 AM |
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And you know that the posters in favor of extradition |
LanternWaste |
Jul-13-10 05:46 PM |
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Americans don't want justice. They want punishment. |
go west young man |
Jul-12-10 08:35 AM |
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Very well said! /nt |
Bragi |
Jul-12-10 08:37 AM |
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. |
t0dd |
Jul-12-10 09:01 AM |
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What are you? Some sort of killjoy? |
Heidi |
Jul-12-10 09:03 AM |
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Jul-12-10 09:13 AM |
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How sadly true, go west... |
Surya Gayatri |
Jul-12-10 09:29 AM |
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Wish you'd start another thread just with this post... n/t |
Surya Gayatri |
Jul-12-10 09:42 AM |
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Dude, it's rare posts like yours that I still read DU. Sometimes a good face-slapping really... |
Poll_Blind |
Jul-12-10 02:13 PM |
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So you want a child-rapist to go free? |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 06:37 PM |
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Stop making so much sense. We don't allow that here. |
Vidar |
Jul-13-10 03:43 PM |
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I wish I'd seem at least a modicum of objectivity in your post... |
LanternWaste |
Jul-13-10 05:48 PM |
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Absolutely true!!! |
ProudDad |
Jul-13-10 06:00 PM |
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After due consideration and even in the face of |
Surya Gayatri |
Jul-12-10 09:20 AM |
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Hard to know where to begin |
AngryAmish |
Jul-12-10 09:35 AM |
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See post N° 35 for rebuttal... |
Surya Gayatri |
Jul-12-10 09:52 AM |
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Someone else's slurs against an entire populace aren't a rebuttal. |
Heywood J |
Jul-12-10 10:36 AM |
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Whatever...the Swiss have ruled, |
Surya Gayatri |
Jul-12-10 11:00 AM |
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Yes, the Swiss have ruled. |
Heywood J |
Jul-12-10 11:13 AM |
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"Whatever" the great ending to a coward's missive... |
LanternWaste |
Jul-13-10 05:50 PM |
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Yeah right... |
The Croquist |
Jul-12-10 10:51 AM |
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Horse-shit! |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 06:38 PM |
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Raping a minor should result in the punishment of living in Europe for 40 years? |
LanternWaste |
Jul-13-10 05:49 PM |
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Good !!!! |
UndertheOcean |
Jul-12-10 10:54 AM |
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A Swiss official said the US cannot appeal the decision. |
dipsydoodle |
Jul-12-10 11:01 AM |
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Unlike Polanski, |
Heywood J |
Jul-12-10 11:14 AM |
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I trust you noticed which section |
dipsydoodle |
Jul-12-10 11:30 AM |
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Yes. He's a director, so it would be relevant |
Heywood J |
Jul-12-10 02:09 PM |
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Jul-12-10 11:16 AM |
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Ira Einhorn. Trust me, the French are no better. n/t |
msanthrope |
Jul-12-10 11:47 AM |
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Maybe they just love the law |
dipsydoodle |
Jul-12-10 12:58 PM |
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Paperwork held up Ira Einhorn???? |
msanthrope |
Jul-12-10 01:08 PM |
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It something to do |
dipsydoodle |
Jul-12-10 01:33 PM |
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Google is your friend. n/t |
msanthrope |
Jul-12-10 01:47 PM |
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Easier to let another nation take the fall |
Heidi |
Jul-12-10 02:06 PM |
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True enough in all points. |
Nihil |
Jul-14-10 11:11 AM |
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disgusting. |
rollin74 |
Jul-12-10 12:01 PM |
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You're partly right |
ProudDad |
Jul-13-10 06:02 PM |
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Kobe just got a fucking parade in Los Angeles. |
U4ikLefty |
Jul-12-10 01:12 PM |
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Read post # 35: |
Poll_Blind |
Jul-12-10 02:15 PM |
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Payback for UBS n/t |
cosmicone |
Jul-12-10 02:31 PM |
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California's got a massive budget deficit and other problems far worse than Polanski. |
alp227 |
Jul-12-10 04:07 PM |
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So...this thread really boils down to two or three misanthropes defending rape |
Romulox |
Jul-12-10 04:37 PM |
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What utter shit. Justice means little to the rich and famous. |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 06:35 PM |
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whoo hoo maybe this story can die a natural death now |
pitohui |
Jul-12-10 06:40 PM |
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Interesting - but is this how racism works? |
howaboutme |
Jul-12-10 06:41 PM |
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Wow, if I'd never heard of Polanski, and all I had to go by were some of the responses in this |
JoeyT |
Jul-13-10 08:21 AM |
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Anyone defending this pedophile has no business calling themselves progressive |
SpartanDem |
Jul-13-10 05:35 PM |
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Victim was just a girl anyways..... |
Darth_Kitten |
Jul-13-10 05:59 PM |
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+1,000,000,000,000,000,000 |
Odin2005 |
Jul-13-10 06:15 PM |
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WoooHooo! |
ProudDad |
Jul-13-10 05:54 PM |
#163 |