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| 46. Utah prisoner faces death by firing squad |
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Source: Guardian, UKBarring a last-minute reprieve, Ronnie Lee Gardner will tomorrow night be strapped into a chair, hooded and executed with a blast of gunfire from five rifles in the first death by firing squad to take place in the US in 14 years. Gardner, 49, will be taken at midnight into a specially designed execution chamber in Utah state prison in Draper, Utah. A target will be placed over his heart, and then in the first minutes of Friday five unidentified law enforcement officers will line up in front of him with .30-calibre rifles. After Gardner is allowed to say his last words, they will be ordered to fire at the target. Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/16/utah-prison...
More proof, if any was needed, of the barbaric states of USAmerika! |
| -Utah firing squad executes convicted killer |
Divine Discontent |
Jun-18-10 03:13 AM |
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so what, we're a turn of the century, european country now...? |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-18-10 03:22 AM |
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he chose that type of death. Utah's the only state that does it. he said it had less room for error |
Divine Discontent |
Jun-18-10 03:31 AM |
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the staff who does a bang up job of killing people |
saigon68 |
Jun-18-10 03:42 AM |
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exactly. what a morbid job. I would hope they don't enjoy it, but I know better. :( |
Divine Discontent |
Jun-18-10 03:47 AM |
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No, not bizarre. It is fucking Alice in Wonderland insane. |
pattmarty |
Jun-18-10 08:19 AM |
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I heard he chose it because |
FunkyLeprechaun |
Jun-18-10 03:43 AM |
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That's what I read on BBC World News. Utah offered this form of execution as "Blood Atonement" |
Ilsa |
Jun-18-10 11:54 AM |
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ah, well... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-18-10 04:41 PM |
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thanks, Divine Disconnect.... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-18-10 04:27 PM |
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Try mid-20th century.. |
KDLarsen |
Jun-18-10 03:37 AM |
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oh my... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-18-10 04:30 PM |
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I think EVERY state should change to the firing squad. Seriously. |
jmowreader |
Jun-18-10 04:09 AM |
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Also, televise all executions -- and in prime time, not at midnight |
LastLiberal in PalmSprings |
Jun-18-10 04:53 AM |
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The Kenny G. CDs would be cruel and unusual punishment. |
Jamastiene |
Jun-18-10 06:39 AM |
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I dated someone years ago that loved that crap... |
Javaman |
Jun-18-10 08:26 AM |
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Don't delude yourself. There would be a lot of fucking people............ |
pattmarty |
Jun-18-10 08:25 AM |
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It would have high Nielson ratings...this isn't any different than the blood & gore movies... |
Historic NY |
Jun-18-10 08:35 AM |
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I think lions would be a far better deterrent. |
Hubert Flottz |
Jun-18-10 05:00 AM |
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juries are well aware of the consquences of their actions . nt |
Kringle |
Jun-18-10 06:18 AM |
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Not Quite |
Theobald |
Jun-18-10 08:02 AM |
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I'd go for freezing to death - the victim feels hot and gets happy at the end. |
superconnected |
Jun-18-10 10:17 AM |
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Justice was served. |
pjt7 |
Jun-18-10 05:50 AM |
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Nonsense. |
OnlinePoker |
Jun-18-10 07:05 AM |
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State sponsored murder |
Loki |
Jun-18-10 07:37 AM |
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There's a lot of sick fucks on this website |
saigon68 |
Jun-18-10 09:00 AM |
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didn't gw have a lot to do w/the stats in texas...? |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-18-10 04:48 PM |
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Vengeance was served. |
burnsei sensei |
Jun-18-10 07:30 AM |
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The guy killed someone while trying to escape from prison. |
geek tragedy |
Jun-18-10 07:34 AM |
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There are people who |
burnsei sensei |
Jun-18-10 07:58 AM |
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Wrong, but not unfair. nt |
geek tragedy |
Jun-18-10 11:33 AM |
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How can something be wrong yet still fair? |
daleo |
Jun-19-10 02:49 AM |
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+1 |
stevekatz |
Jun-18-10 08:13 AM |
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At least he had the option of choosing how to die. His victims didn't have that luxury - |
lynne |
Jun-18-10 06:52 AM |
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Thanks for posting the standard response from the other side. |
Zoeisright |
Jun-18-10 09:29 AM |
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Do you? |
Llewlladdwr |
Jun-18-10 09:40 AM |
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Obviously what I posted was true - |
lynne |
Jun-18-10 10:56 AM |
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What other side.? |
emilyg |
Jun-18-10 08:17 PM |
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It won't bring back the dead. |
daleo |
Jun-19-10 02:52 AM |
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boy and we are called an advanced nation - gawd - killing in any form is killing n/t |
2Design |
Jun-18-10 06:54 AM |
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Another day of state-sponsored killing. |
burnsei sensei |
Jun-18-10 07:29 AM |
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And another day of hand-wringing |
customerserviceguy |
Jun-18-10 07:51 AM |
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I wonder how an anti-choice, all life is sacred sort of person can be |
BR_Parkway |
Jun-18-10 08:15 AM |
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Why do Dick Cheney and Tony Hayward come to my mind... |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-18-10 08:17 AM |
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how 'bout stoning? die stoned! |
Buenaventura |
Jun-18-10 08:20 AM |
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Gary Gilmore's eyes - The Adverts. |
Javaman |
Jun-18-10 08:25 AM |
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I recommend the book 'Shot In the Heart' |
Bluenorthwest |
Jun-18-10 08:31 AM |
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His choice. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-18-10 08:52 AM |
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Ronnie Lee Gardner was a Mormon |
revolution breeze |
Jun-18-10 09:06 AM |
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Blood Atonement. |
leftyladyfrommo |
Jun-18-10 09:10 AM |
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the NPR story said Utah banned the firing squad years ago |
Blue_Tires |
Jun-18-10 10:14 AM |
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wow... |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-18-10 06:42 PM |
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I favor bullets as the execution method and I will tell you why, |
Froward69 |
Jun-18-10 09:15 AM |
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Given the environment in most of our prisons, |
Heywood J |
Jun-18-10 09:30 AM |
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Granted |
Froward69 |
Jun-18-10 04:32 PM |
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I hadn't thought about this from that perspective... |
SKKY |
Jun-19-10 12:48 AM |
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In China it is said they harvest the organs of the executed |
daleo |
Jun-19-10 02:58 AM |
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Well, I won't defend the guy, but I do feel we are a step more barbaric today for doing it. |
superconnected |
Jun-18-10 09:16 AM |
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The death penalty - however its done - is just barbaric. |
leftyladyfrommo |
Jun-18-10 09:20 AM |
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Cant escape from a coffin..Just sayin. |
Pavulon |
Jun-18-10 09:57 AM |
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Nor would an innocent person, wrongly convicted. n/t |
daleo |
Jun-19-10 03:00 AM |
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Utah prisoner faces death by firing squad |
ProudDad |
Jun-18-10 10:49 AM |
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10 Reasons to Abolish the Death Penalty |
ProudDad |
Jun-18-10 10:49 AM |
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That's a great post. n/t |
daleo |
Jun-19-10 03:07 AM |
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But didn't he specifically ASK for it? |
alp227 |
Jun-18-10 10:49 AM |
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He didn't ask to be murdered by the State |
ProudDad |
Jun-18-10 10:49 AM |
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Did his victims ask to be murdered? |
emilyg |
Jun-18-10 10:49 AM |
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You probably won't get an answer for that. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-18-10 10:49 AM |
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Actually, it doesn't fit into the "Capital Punishment is Wrong" theme |
Hissyspit |
Jun-18-10 10:49 AM |
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Works with the "Amerika" theme in the OP. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-18-10 10:49 AM |
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When the USAmerican state does evil |
ProudDad |
Jun-18-10 11:58 AM |
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You calling someone dense? |
proteus_lives |
Jun-18-10 02:16 PM |
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Your post is, as usual, irrelevant as well. |
ProudDad |
Jun-18-10 11:55 AM |
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That can't possibly be the 'theme' |
Bill McBlueState |
Jun-18-10 11:58 AM |
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No. |
Bill McBlueState |
Jun-18-10 11:39 AM |
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Not relevant |
ProudDad |
Jun-18-10 11:54 AM |
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For someone like him - I feel fine. |
emilyg |
Jun-18-10 01:16 PM |
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Then you're part of the problem... |
ProudDad |
Jun-18-10 02:02 PM |
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"Death culture" |
proteus_lives |
Jun-18-10 02:18 PM |
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Right on. Let's feel sorry for |
emilyg |
Jun-18-10 08:16 PM |
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I'd hate that. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-18-10 02:17 PM |
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He Begged To Be Killed, Sir, When He Killed |
The Magistrate |
Jun-18-10 10:49 AM |
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And then the executioner... |
RogueBandit |
Jun-18-10 10:49 AM |
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Not Really, Sir |
The Magistrate |
Jun-18-10 10:49 AM |
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Do you think that it's not quite punishment |
FunkyLeprechaun |
Jun-18-10 10:49 AM |
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That Concept, Ma'am, is Quite To One Side Of This Line Of Analysis |
The Magistrate |
Jun-18-10 10:49 AM |
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Your argument strikes me as sophism |
daleo |
Jun-19-10 03:17 AM |
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Quite The Contrary, Sir: Merely Treating It Seriously |
The Magistrate |
Jun-19-10 04:09 AM |
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His choice. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-18-10 10:49 AM |
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One of the more "humane" deaths. |
Socal31 |
Jun-18-10 10:49 AM |
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I think this is disgusting |
FunkyLeprechaun |
Jun-18-10 10:49 AM |
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Well, if anyone can sit in judgment of a grieving family, it's you. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-18-10 10:49 AM |
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BTW |
FunkyLeprechaun |
Jun-18-10 11:37 AM |
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So, your beliefs give you the right to judge their grief and how they express it? |
proteus_lives |
Jun-18-10 02:14 PM |
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Are you sure? |
FunkyLeprechaun |
Jun-18-10 03:41 PM |
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I don't. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-18-10 09:50 PM |
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And if they find closure from State Murder, then they're the sick ones! (n/t) |
ProudDad |
Jun-18-10 12:00 PM |
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I'd cheer too if the guy put to death had killed a family member |
Ter |
Jun-18-10 03:59 PM |
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Are you human? |
FunkyLeprechaun |
Jun-18-10 05:27 PM |
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agreed. |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-18-10 04:57 PM |
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Speaking of barbaric |
LARED |
Jun-18-10 10:49 AM |
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So that's 3 people he killed right there. |
superconnected |
Jun-18-10 10:49 AM |
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Conclusion............. |
Old Vet |
Jun-18-10 11:12 AM |
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I don't understand why this is a standard tactic. |
Bill McBlueState |
Jun-18-10 11:44 AM |
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Intersting that National Propaganda Radio (and some here) didn't mention |
ProudDad |
Jun-18-10 11:51 AM |
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What does that tell you? |
proteus_lives |
Jun-18-10 09:48 PM |
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10 Reasons to Abolish the Death Penalty |
ProudDad |
Jun-18-10 11:53 AM |
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As an atheist, life in prison would be infinitely better than the death penalty. |
fishbulb703 |
Jun-18-10 12:31 PM |
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How is non-existence a punishment? |
Bill McBlueState |
Jun-18-10 01:37 PM |
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imo, any existence is better than non-existence nt |
fishbulb703 |
Jun-18-10 02:54 PM |
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The man killed 2 people. I have no pity for him. nt |
laureloak |
Jun-18-10 03:49 PM |
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That would be three people............... |
Old Vet |
Jun-18-10 05:00 PM |
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Four, if you figure that he killed himself by killing the other three. |
truthisfreedom |
Jun-18-10 07:37 PM |
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no one asked you to have pity on him. the fact is you are all for extinguishing life as a means of |
Divine Discontent |
Jun-18-10 10:28 PM |
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