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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 04:53 PM
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45. You are both compeltely wrong. This catastrophe was ultimately caused, not by
Edited on Thu May-27-10 05:00 PM by Joe Chi Minh
the selfless desire of BP to service mankinds needs for fuel, plastics, etc. The wellspring of it all was NOTHING other than greed. It was the mother and father of all the other subsidiary causes, such as technological hubris, deploying trail-blazing technology, even, it seems, the very mandating of cretinous behaviour in extremis, from on high, to those lower down the chain.

Our dependency on oil is the reason for the ongoing search for new sources of oil. It was NOT the cause of this catastrophe, even remotely. There is no excuse whatsoever for having pushed the frontiers of the use of the technology so recklessly far, so quickly. The problem of trying to stop a gusher at such a depth must have occurred to them, but the big guys must have chosen to press on. Still, if the precautionary principle is ignored in relation to the very food you eat, why should they have acted more responsibly? Because profit is king. Ask Milton Friedman's ghost.

Adam Smith thought much the same of the merchants of his day as did Einstein, of his - and by extension, of their technological myrmidons. "Technological progress", he observed, "is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal".

Smith warned that businessmen were endemic malefactors, and consequently needed to be virtually 'tagged':
"People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices."

His Hidden Hand was nothing other than the synergies created by a beneficent Providence in furtherance of the common good, ensuing upon grace being allowed to build upon nature, an old Christian axiom. Don't lock up the businessmen. Use them, as you would a beast of burden. No need for factory-farming, though, just so long as the herdsmen do their job. Which they haven't, of course; hence the oil gusher and so much else. Smith's message has been twisted by ultra right-wing capitalists out of all recognition.

Smith's maxim: "All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind," bears repeating, here.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/09/23/4046

There must be many good, individual business people, of course, but they are forced to work under a depraved capitalist system, which deliberately incites unbridled covetousness and ravages the planet, animal, vegetable and mineral.
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  -Unchecked (BP) oil flow would cause disaster ‘heretofore unseen by humanity’ kpete  May-26-10 06:10 PM   #0 
  - Being as objective as I can, I think this is NOT an overstatement. n/t  Poll_Blind   May-26-10 06:14 PM   #1 
  - Agreed. This is extraordinary.  Faygo Kid   May-26-10 08:29 PM   #9 
  - I'm really getting 2012 vibes here.  Kablooie   May-26-10 06:20 PM   #2 
  - -1  harmonicon   May-27-10 01:35 AM   #24 
     - THANK YOU. That 2012 nonsense is fucking stupid.  Zhade   May-27-10 06:40 PM   #46 
  - The really amazing thing about it is that really it is attributable to one and only one  Joe Chi Minh   May-26-10 06:27 PM   #3 
  - Greed and our lifestyle based on petrochemicals  Love Bug   May-26-10 08:39 PM   #11 
  - Mostly correct ...  Nihil   May-27-10 07:31 AM   #32 
     - You are both compeltely wrong. This catastrophe was ultimately caused, not by  Joe Chi Minh   May-27-10 04:53 PM   #45 
  - "It was as far from what Adam Smith had in mind..."  liberation   May-26-10 09:41 PM   #16 
  - Capitalists generally have no interest in business ... their interest is in profit/theft . . .  defendandprotect   May-26-10 10:01 PM   #19 
  - and...  murray hill farm   May-26-10 06:46 PM   #4 
  - I am very concerned  fascisthunter   May-26-10 07:31 PM   #5 
  - K&R  DeSwiss   May-26-10 08:03 PM   #6 
  - New symbol for the flag  saigon68   May-27-10 12:59 PM   #39 
  - K&R  Jefferson23   May-26-10 08:15 PM   #7 
  - This incident had better destroy the Tea Party movement already.  alp227   May-26-10 08:24 PM   #8 
  - What? Isn't Obama sending troops to protect Mexico's border?  defendandprotect   May-26-10 08:54 PM   #13 
  - The WRONG Mexico right there.  alp227   May-26-10 09:30 PM   #14 
     - Plus, if you look at what the problem in Arizona really is . . .it's the Drug War -- !!  defendandprotect   May-26-10 09:55 PM   #18 
  - Unless the oil spill somehow turns Obama white, the Tea Party will stay strong  TheEuclideanOne   May-26-10 09:40 PM   #15 
     - strong?  donquijoterocket   May-27-10 01:37 PM   #40 
  - Kicked and recommended.  Uncle Joe   May-26-10 08:31 PM   #10 
  - Trust Obama understands now that 1st they lied for a week and then they  defendandprotect   May-26-10 08:42 PM   #12 
  - Trust Obama understands that his re-election depends  pokercat999   May-27-10 06:20 AM   #27 
  - Yesterday on Daily Briefing with Ian Masters KPFK, they talked about the suns effect on black water!  sce56   May-26-10 09:43 PM   #17 
  - holy crikey...  CoffeeCat   May-26-10 11:17 PM   #21 
  - K&R  amborin   May-26-10 11:14 PM   #20 
  - "...for months, even years."  Hempathy   May-26-10 11:27 PM   #22 
  - Yep, we are pretty fucked now nt  DeadEyeDyck   May-27-10 12:02 AM   #23 
  - I just read about that,  Old Vet   May-27-10 02:10 AM   #25 
  - Nuke the well, BP's corporate headquarters, and anybody chanting "drill baby drill"  Alamuti Lotus   May-27-10 02:18 AM   #26 
  - "Nuke them all and let Gawd sort them out later!"  Hubert Flottz   May-27-10 06:56 AM   #29 
  - What Obama needs to remember through this disaster...  Hubert Flottz   May-27-10 06:54 AM   #28 
  - I get sick to my stomach when I think about this.  City Lights   May-27-10 07:03 AM   #30 
  - Here's one issue that I have yet heard to be discussed substantively...  AngryOldDem   May-27-10 07:16 AM   #31 
  - The earth is shitting all over itself. nt  valerief   May-27-10 09:50 AM   #33 
  - No Words  Drops_not_Dope   May-27-10 10:44 AM   #34 
  - Cue Hollywood... this is one disaster they haven't addressed yet.  truthisfreedom   May-27-10 10:55 AM   #35 
  - drill baby drill n/t  Enrique   May-27-10 11:03 AM   #36 
  - and burn baby burn!  CountAllVotes   May-27-10 11:05 AM   #37 
  - WASF  femrap   May-27-10 12:56 PM   #38 
  - Cheny and his handpicked MMS and "new rules"  lark   May-27-10 02:19 PM   #43 
     - maybe  femrap   May-27-10 04:40 PM   #44 
  - If not this time, then next  Bragi   May-27-10 01:45 PM   #41 
  - When will this heartbreak end?!  earth mom   May-27-10 01:45 PM   #42 
 

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