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205. When did the Chinese have a system "based on Marxism"?
NEVER is the answer...

Now the Chinese are enjoying (state) capitalism's gift of (in certain regions) a hugely unequal society with a very few HAVES living the "high life" (read contributing mightily to global warming and Peak Oil)...

...and the vast majority of heavily exploited and overworked have-nots.

Way to go, capitalism...!
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  -'I'm a Marxist:' Dalai Lama demoleft  May-20-10 07:25 PM   #0 
  - Wow - good for him!  marylanddem   May-20-10 07:34 PM   #1 
  - So this is a Marxist board? Why didn't anyone tell me?  Alhena   May-21-10 12:00 AM   #43 
     - True Marxism has never been tried  slay   May-21-10 03:20 AM   #66 
     - Yes, because verily there is no better laboratory for what will work in the real world  Warren DeMontague   May-21-10 03:31 AM   #69 
     - Go ahead - enjoy capitalism - right up until it destroys the planet  slay   May-21-10 03:32 AM   #70 
     - That would be a shame, since I was getting awfully fond of the Planet Genius.  Warren DeMontague   May-21-10 03:36 AM   #71 
     - If you don't understant it, then how can you say it wouldn't work?  Javaman   May-21-10 11:06 AM   #102 
     - For the same reason true capitalism has never been tried...?  LanternWaste   May-21-10 02:17 PM   #140 
     - Excellent pic! nt  valerief   May-21-10 12:35 PM   #124 
     - Good thing no one said community colleges are a laboratory for what works in the real world,  No Elephants   May-21-10 10:08 AM   #82 
     - True Marxism is practiced everyday  BOG PERSON   May-21-10 12:45 PM   #129 
     - It is also important to remember that Marx & Engels wrote  Jackpine Radical   May-21-10 05:06 PM   #148 
     - How did Marcuse advance anyone's understanding about anything?  BOG PERSON   May-21-10 05:46 PM   #149 
     - I think he was a voice for humane values  Jackpine Radical   May-22-10 09:39 AM   #192 
     - Also, Marx didn't envision his political system  socialist_n_TN   May-22-10 10:11 AM   #193 
     - There goes his invitations to the White House  hollowdweller   May-21-10 08:54 PM   #163 
     - Gives 'em something to do, in the dorm lounge.  Warren DeMontague   May-21-10 03:29 AM   #68 
     - Oh, so only your opinion counts? Got it. e-posturer indeed.  NoSheep   May-21-10 09:32 AM   #76 
     - If I thought it was a genuinely held and informed opinion ...  Alhena   May-21-10 10:46 AM   #96 
        - You haven't lived it...not even in your mind. You admit that. Then why not just hush?  NoSheep   May-22-10 01:50 AM   #175 
     - fuck it. i realize in retrospect that i don't really give a shit. n/t  Soylent Brice   May-21-10 12:23 PM   #122 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-21-10 12:36 PM   #125 
     - Non-Marxist = Falwellite, gotcha  Alhena   May-21-10 01:32 PM   #134 
     - In classic style your comment implies that Marxism must be contagious...  JackRiddler   May-21-10 02:52 PM   #143 
     - Your response embodies the increasing sardonic posts  Maraya1969   May-21-10 02:57 PM   #144 
     - "didn't pass the test of history" ??  lstrether   May-22-10 06:31 PM   #200 
     - Why the personal attacks? The poster just likes an alternative economic system. nt  ZombieHorde   May-22-10 06:37 PM   #201 
  - Says the guy making a bundle for speaking  FLPanhandle   May-20-10 07:34 PM   #2 
  - ! and hanging out with Richard Gere & co! nt  flamingdem   May-20-10 09:39 PM   #13 
  - Isn't Marxism more about how and for what/whom money and other resources are used?  No Elephants   May-21-10 10:16 AM   #85 
  - It's okay to be a marxist...  Imajika   May-20-10 07:36 PM   #3 
  - Or have to live in a Marxist country  Freddie Stubbs   May-20-10 08:50 PM   #8 
  - and can make a pile of money and live in 5 star hotels.  FLPanhandle   May-20-10 09:00 PM   #10 
  - kinda like Sarah Palin... nt  caledesi   May-20-10 09:19 PM   #12 
  - Wow... throwing the Dalai Lama under the bus...  liberation   May-20-10 10:36 PM   #22 
     - Dalai Lama, the Pope, Sarah Palin, Pat Robertson..... what's the dif?  AlbertCat   May-20-10 11:23 PM   #30 
     - Thanks for not continuing on with about 350 members of congress, too much of the supreme court, and  pundaint   May-20-10 11:31 PM   #32 
     - Thanks for proving my point...  liberation   May-20-10 11:32 PM   #33 
     - The Dalai Lama would be the first to tell you had weilds no power.  RaleighNCDUer   May-21-10 10:48 AM   #97 
     - There's nothing supernatural about the reincarnation of great souls  ChangoLoa   May-21-10 01:58 PM   #137 
     - I like him alot but he doesn't crimp on his own comforts. Also, I  roguevalley   May-20-10 11:48 PM   #39 
     - cubans are more literate and live longer than americans  reggie the dog   May-21-10 05:49 AM   #73 
     - I don't think he said "I am a Marxist country".  NoSheep   May-21-10 09:47 AM   #80 
     - Huh! Cause I have yet to see a truly Marxist country. Or a truly capitalist, either.  laughingliberal   May-21-10 01:41 PM   #135 
     - no shit! your post had me lmao! n/t  AgadorSparticus   May-21-10 01:48 AM   #61 
     - Correction...  Javaman   May-21-10 11:09 AM   #103 
  - What do you REALLY know about the Dalai Lama's personal lifestyle, lol?  kestrel91316   May-21-10 10:11 AM   #83 
     - Well, let's see...  FLPanhandle   May-21-10 11:17 AM   #110 
     - YOU!  NoSheep   May-22-10 02:04 AM   #181 
  - Do pray tell what Marxist countries are out there?  liberation   May-20-10 10:38 PM   #23 
  - Cuba  Freddie Stubbs   May-21-10 09:09 AM   #74 
     - Really?  liberation   May-21-10 05:47 PM   #150 
  - Marx called for workers to unite  reggie the dog   May-21-10 05:48 AM   #72 
     - Marx also called for the state to own the means of production  Freddie Stubbs   May-21-10 09:09 AM   #75 
        - As opposed to bail outs?  No Elephants   May-21-10 10:25 AM   #88 
        - In Communist Manifesto  reggie the dog   May-21-10 02:08 PM   #139 
  - Marxism was inspired by an anthropological paper on the Huron nation in 1778, a truly Communist  sam sarrha   May-20-10 11:02 PM   #26 
  - Huron Nation?  Jkid   May-21-10 04:56 PM   #147 
  - It also has roots in the Diggers that were in England after their civil war  martymar64   May-21-10 08:11 PM   #162 
  - +1000  proteus_lives   May-21-10 12:02 AM   #44 
  - That's the funniest thing I've read all week. Nazi lover is more like it.  Catherina   May-20-10 08:10 PM   #4 
  - how come....  unkachuck   May-20-10 08:29 PM   #6 
  - .....  ingac70   May-20-10 08:36 PM   #7 
  - I KNEW the Pope was a Nazi, too! nt  valerief   May-21-10 12:38 PM   #126 
  - To be fair  daleo   May-20-10 09:08 PM   #11 
  - They were "spiritual" in the sense of superstitious. I don't consider that  JDPriestly   May-20-10 09:48 PM   #14 
  - I agree he's no progressive.  David__77   May-20-10 10:06 PM   #17 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-20-10 10:29 PM   #20 
  - That's rather a weak retort to historical fact  Catherina   May-20-10 11:35 PM   #35 
     - Here are some more links...  GReedDiamond   May-21-10 01:05 AM   #55 
     - I don't know what is happening but among other things it has turned into  grantcart   May-21-10 01:16 AM   #56 
     - The "dalai lama is a nazi" meme...  GReedDiamond   May-21-10 01:22 AM   # 
        - thanks  grantcart   May-21-10 02:03 AM   #64 
        - China has paid posters all over the internet whose sole job is slandering  kestrel91316   May-21-10 10:16 AM   #84 
        - Thanks. I understand totally that you are not speaking to whether the DL is a Nazi or not,  No Elephants   May-21-10 10:37 AM   #94 
        - See post 98, It's not a weird religious/right-wing political meme  Catherina   May-21-10 12:43 PM   #128 
     - Weak and untruthful. Here's another link for you. National Geography  Catherina   May-21-10 10:51 AM   #98 
        - Christina Rosetti makes the following claims...  GReedDiamond   May-21-10 11:50 AM   #116 
           - Xcuse me. You introduced her to this conversation, not I.  Catherina   May-21-10 01:10 PM   #132 
              - Technically, posting some people's opinion trying to pass them as fact is also not very persuasive  liberation   May-21-10 06:16 PM   #156 
              - Catherina, you were defending Christina Rosetti...  GReedDiamond   May-21-10 10:00 PM   #165 
                 - "after I (GReedD) posted the link to her site". Read what you wrote again  Catherina   May-21-10 11:03 PM   #166 
                    - I realize that I posted the link to...  GReedDiamond   May-21-10 11:11 PM   #167 
                       - Try to stick to the topic. The topic is the Dalai Lama, not Christina Rosetti  Catherina   May-21-10 11:47 PM   #168 
                          - Thanks for ordering me to do whatever it is you...  GReedDiamond   May-21-10 11:55 PM   #169 
                             - If you can't stick to the topic, please do. You're most welcome n/t  Catherina   May-22-10 12:03 AM   #170 
                                - Thanks for not making your point...Good Night to You, Catherina - nt  GReedDiamond   May-22-10 12:09 AM   #171 
                                   - Don't go to bed mad... lol n/t  Catherina   May-22-10 12:29 AM   #172 
                                      - I'm always mad at what's going on...  GReedDiamond   May-22-10 12:39 AM   #173 
     - Rupert Murdoch owns the History Channel. n/t  NoSheep   May-21-10 09:36 AM   #77 
        - Thanks. I didn't know that. Crap!  No Elephants   May-21-10 10:56 AM   #100 
  - one of his tutors was a nazi, a mountain climber who was a nazi.  roguevalley   May-20-10 11:50 PM   #40 
     - I read the guy's book. I don't think he had a political agenda. I think he was a climber trying to  NoSheep   May-21-10 09:50 AM   #81 
     - No, that's the part of the myth. Harrer was an SS member in the 30s  Catherina   May-21-10 01:30 PM   #133 
        - That does not impugn the Dalai Lama, does it?  NoSheep   May-22-10 01:53 AM   #176 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   May-22-10 02:15 AM   #182 
     - I actually have met him, Heinrich Harrer... he is a wonderful person  kgnu_fan   May-22-10 06:50 AM   #187 
  - So am I. knr nt  Union Yes   May-20-10 08:24 PM   #5 
  - I think anyone with half a brain would..  Francisco   May-20-10 08:59 PM   #9 
  - Isn't that the truth.  NoSheep   May-22-10 02:16 AM   #183 
  - Yes, people really need to read Marx then discuss. Too much ignorance here  kgnu_fan   May-22-10 07:04 AM   #189 
  - So the ultimate embodiment of spirituality is also the opiate of the masses and a marxist capitalist  Ozymanithrax   May-20-10 09:53 PM   #15 
  - so, the Grateful Dead and the Nazi SS got their skull symbol  wial   May-20-10 10:05 PM   #16 
  - Same way the human vagina is responsible for the Edsel.  Warren DeMontague   May-21-10 03:26 AM   #67 
     - What ever happened to blaming the Bossa Nova or putting the blame on Mame (boys)?  No Elephants   May-21-10 11:15 AM   #108 
  - Politics is local.... nt  RollWithIt   May-20-10 10:06 PM   #18 
  - and monks should stay away from politics  grantcart   May-20-10 10:28 PM   #19 
     - You don't konw much about Buddhism, do you... too bad ...  ProudDad   May-20-10 10:30 PM   #21 
        - Buddhism is based on Equanimity, ".May all beings live in Equanimity, free of the Grasping, Anger,  sam sarrha   May-20-10 11:22 PM   #29 
        - Yeah, communism/marxism has a much better track-record.  proteus_lives   May-21-10 12:04 AM   #45 
        - I read the collected works of Marx at the undergraduate level and I was  grantcart   May-21-10 01:01 AM   #54 
           - Crickets. Not being a Buddhist I've got a little side action on the length of time  cliffordu   May-21-10 01:20 AM   #57 
           - Very impressive qualifications to post an opinion on what monks should do.  No Elephants   May-21-10 10:53 AM   #99 
              - The role of monks differs in the different traditions  grantcart   May-21-10 03:21 PM   #145 
  - I see the Dalai Lama haters are out!  Odin2005   May-20-10 10:52 PM   #24 
  - it's easy if one hates everything.. that is Cynicism, conclusion comes first..Premise follows,  sam sarrha   May-20-10 11:16 PM   #27 
  - Seriously.  EFerrari   May-20-10 11:18 PM   #28 
  - China has a cadre of people paid to slander the Dalai Lama on the internet.  kestrel91316   May-21-10 10:17 AM   #86 
  - I don't think the ones here are paid, and if they are China should ask for their money back  liberation   May-21-10 06:34 PM   #157 
  - It's DU.  AngryOldDem   May-22-10 11:38 AM   #195 
  - And I'm a duck who knows how to use a computer!  Better Believe It   May-20-10 10:58 PM   #25 
  - The Dalai Lama has little understanding...  MellowDem   May-20-10 11:30 PM   #31 
  - Speaking of little understanding...  liberation   May-20-10 11:35 PM   #36 
  - One-liner followed by nothing. Hit and run cowardice.  MellowDem   May-21-10 12:07 AM   #46 
  - Capitalism is about efficiency?  go west young man   May-21-10 12:49 AM   #53 
  - You can say the same about Marxism...  MellowDem   May-21-10 01:22 AM   #58 
  - Capitalism doesn't "make us all rich". ROFLMFAO. It makes a few  kestrel91316   May-21-10 10:26 AM   #89 
  - Really?  MellowDem   May-21-10 11:13 AM   #107 
     - When did the Chinese have a system "based on Marxism"?  ProudDad   May-23-10 01:52 PM   #205 
  - When was capitalism every *really* about making us *all* rich?  DesertDiamond   May-21-10 12:02 PM   #118 
     - Like I said...  MellowDem   May-21-10 12:51 PM   #131 
  - Capitalism doesn't HAVE to be only about profits.  Lagomorph   May-20-10 11:33 PM   #34 
  - Huh, so capitalism doesn't have to be about its only reason to exist?  liberation   May-20-10 11:37 PM   #37 
  - Only if you are literal...  Lagomorph   May-21-10 01:54 AM   #63 
     - Right, because doublethink is soooo much more "enlightened"  liberation   May-21-10 05:51 PM   #152 
  - It doesn't?  Quantess   May-20-10 11:47 PM   #38 
  - We may now live in a plutonomy, rather than in a capitalist society.  No Elephants   May-21-10 11:10 AM   #105 
  - From this thread it looks like President Obama and the Dalai Lama have something in common  Hippo_Tron   May-20-10 11:52 PM   #41 
  - LOL! Mind-boggling ain't it?  Hardrada   May-20-10 11:58 PM   #42 
  - Marxist Muslin Nazis.  truthisfreedom   May-21-10 12:13 AM   #47 
  - Good one.  No Elephants   May-21-10 11:20 AM   #111 
  - incredible indeed  fascisthunter   May-21-10 12:19 PM   #120 
  - Um, not good for him, marxism is flawed and oversimplified  usregimechange   May-21-10 12:15 AM   #48 
  - Unlike capitalism?  No Elephants   May-21-10 11:21 AM   #112 
     - "I don't believe in 'isms' " -- Ferris Bueller  liberation   May-21-10 05:55 PM   #153 
  - I want to have cocktails with this guy. n/t  bitchkitty   May-21-10 12:23 AM   #49 
  - Something about this seems mildly ironic... hmm just cant seem to put my finger on it...  D23MIURG23   May-21-10 12:27 AM   #50 
  - Huh?  FightingBobsghost   May-21-10 12:33 AM   #51 
  - Spewed!  No Elephants   May-21-10 12:27 PM   #123 
  - Isn't he whatever label the reporter asks him to be?  HuckleB   May-21-10 12:36 AM   #52 
  - I'm impressed with his books and teachings.  superconnected   May-21-10 01:24 AM   #59 
  - You're just not reading him right. I'm sure it's all in there somewhere.......  kestrel91316   May-21-10 10:29 AM   #90 
     - Yeah, I suppose crazy people who would invent anything just to be malicious  superconnected   May-21-10 02:47 PM   #141 
        - Apparently, from some of the responses to this thread... projection is not exclusive to the GOP fans  liberation   May-21-10 06:00 PM   #154 
        - Now you are beginning to understand....  kestrel91316   May-21-10 09:15 PM   #164 
  - He probably just realize that capitalism is struggling to survive n/t  AlphaCentauri   May-21-10 01:33 AM   #60 
  - i hope marxism shows him  SwampG8r   May-21-10 01:54 AM   #62 
  - Can you tell me anything about the lifestyle of a Tibetan living outside the area now controlled by  NoSheep   May-21-10 09:45 AM   #79 
  - The Dalai Lama has SLAVES???? Tibet is a theocracy????  kestrel91316   May-21-10 10:30 AM   #91 
  - Who ARE these people making these inane comments? LOL  NoSheep   May-21-10 10:36 AM   #93 
     - Paid Chinese shills - I have seen them get HATEFUL about the Dalai Lama  kestrel91316   May-21-10 11:04 AM   #101 
        - WTF? Seriously. I can't get over what I'm reading here.  NoSheep   May-22-10 01:54 AM   #177 
  - Wow. Where are you receiving these transmissions from?  Ignis   May-21-10 01:52 PM   #136 
  - Interesting  davidthegnome   May-21-10 02:20 AM   #65 
  - Plus 1  NoSheep   May-21-10 10:37 AM   #95 
  - The Dalai Lama is the person who taught me the emptiness of Buddhism.  Romulox   May-21-10 09:44 AM   #78 
  - Isn't emptiness the whole point of Buddhism? nt  RaleighNCDUer   May-21-10 11:10 AM   #104 
     - And they say that a student who honors his teacher honors himself.  Romulox   May-21-10 11:29 AM   #114 
  - Apparently the Dalai Lama didn't read Karl Marx's opinion about religion.  Crowman1979   May-21-10 10:23 AM   #87 
  - I'm not sure Buddhism is a religion. It's more a way of life. And it is  NoSheep   May-21-10 10:35 AM   #92 
  - That was, of course, written by a man who lived in a culture immersed  RaleighNCDUer   May-21-10 11:16 AM   #109 
  - Not a single thought, I'm sure.  NoSheep   May-22-10 02:00 AM   #180 
  - I am not normally a betting person, but I'd bet the DL is very familiar with that.  No Elephants   May-21-10 12:14 PM   #119 
  - I know atheist buddhists. nt  ChangoLoa   May-21-10 01:59 PM   #138 
     - Buddhism, by definition, is atheist ;-)  liberation   May-21-10 06:04 PM   #155 
        - Thank you.  NoSheep   May-22-10 01:57 AM   #179 
        - They need a clear boss for their universe.  ChangoLoa   May-22-10 04:53 PM   #199 
        - This Atheist with Buddhist leanings says +1  Odin2005   May-22-10 08:59 PM   #203 
  - As long as he isn't a Stalinist. (nt)  w4rma   May-21-10 11:13 AM   #106 
  - Isn't that a bit like Lady Gaga saying she's a communist?  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-21-10 11:24 AM   #113 
  - Or the right wing saying we're all communists. Lots of outlooks on a name.  superconnected   May-21-10 02:49 PM   #142 
  - No human is perfect. eom.  No Elephants   May-21-10 11:44 AM   #115 
  - I knew he was a Marxist  kentauros   May-21-10 12:01 PM   #117 
  - Oh Oh... ya did it now Dalai Lama... you claimed to be a Marxist!!!!!  fascisthunter   May-21-10 12:20 PM   #121 
  - Does this dude ever  femrap   May-21-10 12:42 PM   #127 
  - Yes. There are women monks.  leftyladyfrommo   May-21-10 07:25 PM   #158 
  - Are the women called 'monks'  femrap   May-21-10 08:06 PM   #161 
     - I don't think you understand what it is to be a mystic.  leftyladyfrommo   May-22-10 05:37 AM   #185 
        - I'd bet the  femrap   May-22-10 11:38 AM   #194 
           - No mystical path is comfortable - they are designed to be very uncomfortable  leftyladyfrommo   May-22-10 07:12 PM   #202 
  - I hear he's reincarnated himself a few times, and has been many different people.  Warren DeMontague   May-21-10 07:57 PM   #160 
  - Go Marxism!  McCamy Taylor   May-21-10 12:51 PM   #130 
  - What nonsense  blindpig   May-21-10 04:46 PM   #146 
  - Absolutely true  BOG PERSON   May-21-10 05:50 PM   #151 
  - That quote was really funny.  Catherina   May-21-10 07:31 PM   #159 
  - Wow, that BS post made you just lose a lot of the respect I had for you.  Odin2005   May-22-10 12:51 AM   #174 
  - Well then...  blindpig   May-22-10 07:24 AM   #190 
  - Have you ever read Marx yet? Capitalism is only one form of economy that will have to progress to  kgnu_fan   May-22-10 06:59 AM   #188 
     - Some, and I am quite familiar with the idea  blindpig   May-22-10 07:32 AM   #191 
        - Experimentation and exploration is the idea Marx left with us  kgnu_fan   May-22-10 04:34 PM   #197 
           - +1  NoSheep   May-23-10 01:38 PM   #204 
  - The Dalai Lama would laugh his ass off at this entire thread.  NoSheep   May-22-10 01:57 AM   #178 
  - I want to hear from folks in this thread who have met Tibetans.  NoSheep   May-22-10 02:19 AM   #184 
     - First of all, Tibetans tend to be always laughing, joking yet in a quiet way  kgnu_fan   May-22-10 06:39 AM   #186 
        - I was in Nepal in 94. met Tibetans who lived in the Mustang district  NoSheep   May-22-10 12:15 PM   #196 
           - I agree. It is indeed becoming wierder ...  kgnu_fan   May-22-10 04:37 PM   #198 
 

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