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Cleobulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #99
101. Wait, so what did he ruin?
Also, why this insistence on comparing Venezuela to Cuba, N.K. or the former Soviet Union? Those countries had a lot of power centralized into single party states, Venezuela is a multiparty democracy. I simply don't understand why you exaggerate things to such extremes.
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  -Venezuela's Chavez orders takeover of iron-makers Synicus Maximus  May-16-10 08:02 AM   #0 
  - Go Chavez!  bemildred   May-16-10 08:03 AM   #1 
  - You do realize that industry will be ruined  protocol rv   May-16-10 08:36 AM   #3 
  - ROFL, all those private companies doing such a great job, eh?  bread_and_roses   May-16-10 10:08 AM   #19 
  - Overall, they do a better job than public corporations  protocol rv   May-16-10 12:13 PM   #98 
     - Halliburton put i the cement cap that failed. BP ran the show and owned the lease  Vincardog   May-16-10 02:15 PM   #135 
     - Yes, and?  protocol rv   May-16-10 09:40 PM   #177 
        - The well failed the pressure test after the cementing. This has happened to Helliburton before.  Vincardog   May-17-10 12:48 PM   #215 
     - Uhm, doesn't it matter in what industry they are in to determine that?  Cleobulus   May-16-10 02:20 PM   #138 
        - I agree  protocol rv   May-16-10 09:45 PM   #178 
           - You are fucking nuts, privatization has lead to some of the dumbest....  Cleobulus   May-17-10 12:40 AM   #181 
              - Nationalization has led to worst debacles  protocol rv   May-17-10 07:35 AM   #196 
                 - "usually a better option." OK, give an example. n/t  Cleobulus   May-17-10 09:44 AM   #206 
                 - Excuse me  Threedifferentones   May-17-10 08:12 PM   #230 
                 - Interesting comment  ChangoLoa   May-18-10 03:28 PM   #249 
                    - As usual  Threedifferentones   May-19-10 07:21 PM   #252 
                       - I share your disappointment  ChangoLoa   May-20-10 10:52 AM   #254 
                 - Pew poll on communism and the transition to capitalism  SOS   May-18-10 12:29 PM   #242 
  - You do know that most of the industries and companies that were expropriated were...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 10:25 AM   #27 
  - That's not true either  protocol rv   May-16-10 11:55 AM   #86 
  - You mean when they shut off their electricity?  Lagomorph   May-16-10 04:51 PM   #153 
  - Damn us destructive communists.  dotymed   May-16-10 10:26 AM   #28 
  - Well, most of us know you communists make a mess out of things  protocol rv   May-16-10 11:56 AM   #88 
  - You do realize that the Cold War is over right?  Cleobulus   May-16-10 11:59 AM   #91 
  - I am educated, and you are indeed communists  protocol rv   May-16-10 12:09 PM   #96 
     - Uhm, you have no fucking clue, do you?  Cleobulus   May-16-10 12:13 PM   #97 
        - I know, it's pretty funny  protocol rv   May-16-10 02:25 PM   #139 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-16-10 01:37 PM   #128 
  - Why is capitalist-bashing okay, but not red-bashing? Why is it considered bashing either way?  Regret My New Name   May-16-10 06:39 PM   #164 
     - Thank you for the endorsement, my friend Regret  protocol rv   May-16-10 09:20 PM   #172 
        - I may be wrong but  JNelson6563   May-17-10 08:58 PM   #233 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-16-10 01:37 PM   #129 
  - Show me a communist government....  Lagomorph   May-16-10 04:45 PM   #150 
     - You are so right  cowman   May-16-10 04:57 PM   #154 
  - Funny. Same thing was said about the oil industry. It forgot to collapse  Warren Stupidity   May-16-10 10:47 AM   #42 
  - I do not agree  protocol rv   May-16-10 11:59 AM   #92 
     - enron goldman sachs bear sterns merril gm chrysler ....  Warren Stupidity   May-16-10 12:06 PM   #94 
        - Nobody is talking free market fundamentalism here  protocol rv   May-16-10 09:38 PM   #176 
  - "All you communists." Joe McCarthy rises from the grave.  Flaneur   May-16-10 01:34 PM   #126 
  - You are a Venezuelan that attended university in the U.S., have I got that right? n/t  Greyhound   May-16-10 04:13 PM   #147 
     - Yes, maybe  protocol rv   May-16-10 09:35 PM   #175 
        - IMO, you are a former elitist  dotymed   May-17-10 10:04 AM   #207 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-19-10 02:50 PM   #251 
  - "Cool. Power to the people, and stuff." - Iron Man (D)  SpiralHawk   May-16-10 08:05 AM   #2 
  - How cartoonish  protocol rv   May-16-10 09:35 AM   #12 
  - I guess  dotymed   May-16-10 08:47 AM   #4 
  - Doty:: He doesn't have the support of the majority  protocol rv   May-16-10 09:13 AM   #6 
     - According to a survey by IVAD, at the end of last year, he enjoyed at least a 60% approval rate...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 10:09 AM   #20 
     - hehe... still waiting  fascisthunter   May-16-10 10:15 AM   #23 
     - Yes, I sure do, sorry to keep you waiting, I was making coffee  protocol rv   May-16-10 10:53 AM   #47 
        - Let's assume the opposition wins a significant fraction of the seats...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 10:58 AM   #51 
           - Bogus? what more does this man have to do to make you open your eyes? where's the journalistic  HillGal   May-16-10 07:25 PM   #166 
           - Will our side stop the bogus exxagerations about Chavez the Dictator?  protocol rv   May-16-10 09:28 PM   #173 
              - Jesus, you are like a gold mine of elite contempt for the poor, I love it...  Cleobulus   May-17-10 01:30 AM   #186 
                 - I kind of noticed that too.  JNelson6563   May-17-10 09:19 PM   #234 
     - Which poll?  dotymed   May-16-10 10:29 AM   #32 
     - Which poll?  dotymed   May-16-10 10:29 AM   #33 
        - See some results above  protocol rv   May-16-10 10:55 AM   #50 
           - I'm bookmarking that one, Protocol rv! "I don't need polls...I am Venezuelan..."  Peace Patriot   May-16-10 12:54 PM   #119 
              - Food rationing is going on in Venezuela just like it is in Cuba, now how is that good for the  HillGal   May-16-10 04:14 PM   #148 
              - Proof?  Cleobulus   May-16-10 04:30 PM   #149 
              - Will Wiki do? how about Reuters?  HillGal   May-16-10 06:08 PM   #162 
                 - Uh Oh  cowman   May-16-10 06:13 PM   #163 
                 - I can't take the lies anymore, I don't think Cuba or Venezuela is something we should aspire to  HillGal   May-16-10 06:47 PM   #165 
                    - Again, I ask for proof, the CNN iReport is unsubstantiated, and the election report is from 2006...  Cleobulus   May-17-10 12:46 AM   #182 
                       - You got your proof and there's plenty of proof, just google, you just can't handle the truth. NT  HillGal   May-17-10 08:56 AM   #200 
                       - Wi ki is "proof?" lol  dotymed   May-17-10 10:19 AM   #208 
                          - Then google can be your friend Doty, again, you and others don't want to face the truth  HillGal   May-17-10 01:00 PM   #216 
                             - Another Venezuelan peasant  dotymed   May-18-10 11:29 AM   #238 
                       - Please Cleobulos  ChangoLoa   May-17-10 11:01 AM   #210 
                 - Reuters Busted for Indecent Exposure: The Automobile Industry in Venezuela  Judi Lynn   May-17-10 01:00 AM   #185 
              - There has been a lot of scarcity not rationing.  ChangoLoa   May-17-10 11:05 AM   #211 
              - Inflation is 30 % and Venezuelan bonds are the highest risk in the world  protocol rv   May-16-10 08:53 PM   #169 
  - let me see if I can get this right  davidinalameda   May-16-10 08:47 AM   #5 
  - Or, the foreigners looting the country  Dogtown   May-16-10 09:16 AM   #7 
  - They were rightful owners  protocol rv   May-16-10 09:33 AM   #11 
     - You keep using the word "communists" I don't think it means what you think it means...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 09:52 AM   #16 
     - Some opinions  protocol rv   May-16-10 10:06 AM   #18 
        - Cacao Sucre, a sugar refining operation, layed off about 120 workers...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 10:29 AM   #31 
        - Wrong example  protocol rv   May-16-10 11:05 AM   #57 
        - The 2002 coup was a "mistake"?  JackRiddler   May-18-10 12:00 PM   #240 
     - "Saying it doesn't make it so.  Dogtown   May-17-10 09:08 AM   #202 
  - Owners and governments are not equals.  Proletariatprincess   May-16-10 09:20 AM   #8 
  - Nice theory, but it doesn't work that way  protocol rv   May-16-10 09:28 AM   #10 
     - It definiately works that way in many situations. (nt)  w4rma   May-16-10 09:42 AM   #15 
     - Show me an example?  protocol rv   May-16-10 10:01 AM   #17 
     - Talk about romantic notions. Do you have any facts or just talking points?  Arctic Dave   May-16-10 10:19 AM   #25 
        - Norway  protocol rv   May-16-10 09:16 PM   #171 
  - That is called nationalization  protocol rv   May-16-10 09:20 AM   #9 
  - Of course it is...  jefferson_dem   May-16-10 10:31 AM   #34 
  - Oh yeah  cowman   May-16-10 10:35 AM   #36 
  - In opposition to your own fact filled thoughtful posts?  EFerrari   May-16-10 11:09 AM   #61 
     - Look at post 66, this poster hates the poor. n/t  Cleobulus   May-16-10 11:24 AM   #73 
        - You hate the poor?  cowman   May-16-10 01:02 PM   #123 
        - So what are you, a libertarian who thinks that the poor should rely on your oh so...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 02:17 PM   #137 
           - Nope. I'm a solid Dem  cowman   May-16-10 03:49 PM   #142 
              - Oh shit, I can't believe you said this...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 04:13 PM   #146 
              - Oh shit I can't believe you just said that  cowman   May-16-10 04:47 PM   #151 
              - You know  cowman   May-16-10 04:50 PM   #152 
                 - California doesn't have 30 % inflation  protocol rv   May-16-10 09:32 PM   #174 
              - No, that's not true. That's a myth promulgated by the American right wing  EFerrari   May-17-10 07:38 AM   #198 
        - At least  dotymed   May-17-10 10:43 AM   #209 
  - 4) naive about the modern history of Venezuela.  Warren Stupidity   May-16-10 11:07 AM   #59 
  - No it is not. See Eminent Domain. nt.  Warren Stupidity   May-16-10 10:48 AM   #43 
  - Ordinarily, yes.  jakefrep   May-19-10 10:26 PM   #253 
  - That'll get the iron workers to work. NOT.  robcon   May-16-10 09:40 AM   #13 
  - Indeed, and the bond spread is causing a currency problem  protocol rv   May-16-10 10:10 AM   #21 
     - I am not a Chavez fan. I am not a communist. I think Chavez is mostly kind of enamored if himself.  JDPriestly   May-16-10 03:20 PM   #141 
        - I think  cowman   May-16-10 03:54 PM   #144 
  - Viva La Chavez!  Union Yes   May-16-10 09:42 AM   #14 
  - Learn Spanish  protocol rv   May-16-10 10:11 AM   #22 
  - Jaja, viva la chavez. Pinche gringo. nt  xsquid   May-16-10 10:23 AM   #26 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-16-10 10:28 AM   #30 
  - Some men need insulting.  Common Sense Party   May-17-10 09:41 AM   #205 
  - *facepalm* nt  Codeine   May-16-10 11:20 AM   #69 
  - I love seeing the right freak out over this and call it communism... lol  fascisthunter   May-16-10 10:18 AM   #24 
  - I've worked  cowman   May-16-10 10:33 AM   #35 
  - I agree! privatize the fire department and the cops!  provis99   May-16-10 01:02 PM   #122 
  - Another dumbass comment  cowman   May-16-10 01:05 PM   #124 
  - oh, so you work for our socialized fire department  fascisthunter   May-16-10 05:36 PM   #158 
     - Hey genius  cowman   May-16-10 06:08 PM   #161 
        - LOL. What a complete load of bullshit.  Hassin Bin Sober   May-17-10 07:13 AM   #190 
        - BAM!! Thank you  fascisthunter   May-17-10 11:23 AM   #212 
        - not a genius just too informed for that BS  fascisthunter   May-17-10 11:24 AM   #213 
  - It is called communism  protocol rv   May-16-10 10:41 AM   #39 
     - Wait, your side isn't going to boycott elections again?  Cleobulus   May-16-10 10:54 AM   #48 
        - Wrong guess  protocol rv   May-16-10 11:10 AM   #62 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   May-16-10 11:17 AM   #67 
           - Why not, that's what they attempted to do in 2002, why should they change now? n/t  Cleobulus   May-16-10 11:19 AM   #68 
              - Why change now?  protocol rv   May-16-10 11:46 AM   #83 
                 - Hmm, found something with a rather different point of view...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 12:34 PM   #109 
                    - I posted a lenghthy rebuttal to this piece in the Latin American forum.  protocol rv   May-17-10 05:12 PM   #221 
  - Despots suck.  jefferson_dem   May-16-10 10:27 AM   #29 
  - You are completely right, he's the worse despot ever!  Cleobulus   May-16-10 10:35 AM   #37 
  - Allowed them to exist?  cowman   May-16-10 10:39 AM   #38 
  - Using this poster's "freedom of information" standard...  jefferson_dem   May-16-10 10:45 AM   #41 
  - Uhm, DU had a strict policy of deleting posts that advocated for the overthrow of the government...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 10:52 AM   #46 
     - Oh.  jefferson_dem   May-16-10 11:02 AM   #55 
        - Uhm, are you saying that the media should be free to advocate for the overthrow...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 11:21 AM   #70 
           - I'm saying I'm not keen on letting any regime censor political information...  jefferson_dem   May-16-10 03:14 PM   #140 
              - Oh for fuck's sake, never mind, you apparently are immune from facts...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 04:11 PM   #145 
                 - Disagreeing with Hugo (and you) = immune to the facts...  jefferson_dem   May-16-10 07:39 PM   #167 
                    - No, ignoring the facts is ignoring the facts. n/t  Cleobulus   May-17-10 12:47 AM   #183 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-16-10 10:49 AM   #44 
  - I'm not sure about your claim that he is the worst ever.  jefferson_dem   May-16-10 10:43 AM   #40 
     - Why the fuck do people get into such silly exaggerations?  Cleobulus   May-16-10 10:51 AM   #45 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-16-10 11:00 AM   #52 
        - Yeah, the fucking rich, who can afford it, and good riddance to them. n/t  Cleobulus   May-16-10 11:01 AM   #54 
           - You know  cowman   May-16-10 11:09 AM   #60 
           - Now that I know your attitudes towards the poor, which are disgusting by the way...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 11:16 AM   #66 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   May-16-10 11:55 AM   #87 
           - Yet you talk about Venezuela as some sort of paradise before Chavez entered office.  Cleobulus   May-16-10 11:58 AM   #90 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   May-16-10 12:16 PM   #99 
              - Wait, so what did he ruin?  Cleobulus   May-16-10 12:20 PM   #101 
                 - Mutiparty democracy?  cowman   May-16-10 12:32 PM   #108 
              - And yet you don't live there  cowman   May-16-10 12:19 PM   #100 
              - Hmm, interesting, but I'd believe someone who lived in a barrio before...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 12:21 PM   #102 
                 - So your saying you lived in a barrio there?  cowman   May-16-10 12:35 PM   #110 
                    - You do realize the biggest human rights abuses in Venezuela are tied...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 12:44 PM   #112 
                       - Nice dodge  cowman   May-16-10 12:50 PM   #113 
                       - Alright fine, all you said was the Venezuela used to be, or is a beautiful...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 12:52 PM   #116 
                          - Yeah I said  cowman   May-16-10 01:09 PM   #125 
                             - And again, stupid exaggerations that have no relation to reality...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 02:16 PM   #136 
                       - Interesting take  protocol rv   May-16-10 01:48 PM   #131 
                       - You do realize the Communist Party of Venezuela is NOT a part of the PSUV?  Cleobulus   May-16-10 02:03 PM   #133 
                       - But the PSUV is communist now  protocol rv   May-16-10 09:08 PM   #170 
                          - OK, if you say so...  Cleobulus   May-17-10 12:48 AM   #184 
                             - Did you notice their red shirts?  protocol rv   May-17-10 05:16 PM   #222 
                       - Two of your statements make no sense...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 02:09 PM   #134 
                          - Good deduction, my friend Cleobulus.  protocol rv   May-17-10 05:22 PM   #223 
                       - Which union leaders have been killed in Venezuela? Do you have any examples??  ChangoLoa   May-17-10 11:27 AM   #214 
                          - He's honestly confused  protocol rv   May-17-10 05:24 PM   #224 
              - It was paradise. For the wealthy. n/t  Catherina   May-18-10 01:23 PM   #244 
           - The poster you are responding to is a city employee sucking on the public teet.  Hassin Bin Sober   May-17-10 07:20 AM   #192 
           - You mean the wages you earned on that free market fire department?  Hassin Bin Sober   May-17-10 07:22 AM   #193 
           - Simply astounding n/t  Catherina   May-18-10 01:12 PM   #243 
           - I believe it's called brain drain  protocol rv   May-16-10 11:24 AM   #72 
              - You smile while calling the majority of your country red thugs and ignorant.  Cleobulus   May-16-10 11:25 AM   #74 
                 - You are not the majority  protocol rv   May-16-10 11:41 AM   #79 
                    - Neither, I'm an outside observer, but I do find it illuminating how you view the poor in your...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 11:42 AM   #81 
                       - Has nothing to do with poverty, my friend  protocol rv   May-17-10 05:29 PM   #225 
     - Yeah  cowman   May-16-10 10:55 AM   #49 
        - Where the hell do you come up with this stuff?  Cleobulus   May-16-10 11:00 AM   #53 
           - And when people like  cowman   May-16-10 11:03 AM   #56 
              - But they are compensated for it...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 11:13 AM   #65 
                 - No they are not compensated fairly  protocol rv   May-16-10 11:31 AM   #75 
                    - Uhm, no you don't, I saw the last elections, there was a paper trail...  Cleobulus   May-16-10 11:41 AM   #80 
                       - The paper trail wasn't audited.  protocol rv   May-17-10 05:33 PM   #226 
  - Ignorance sucks harder. n/t  EFerrari   May-16-10 11:11 AM   #64 
     - Tell them all about it  protocol rv   May-16-10 11:32 AM   #76 
     - Perhaps...but not as much as blind "lock step" loyalty, apologetics for despots. n/t  jefferson_dem   May-16-10 07:41 PM   #168 
        - At least now you admit to be an apologetic for Pedro Carmona, the Dictrator wanna be. n/t  Cleobulus   May-17-10 01:36 AM   #187 
  - A little context might help here.  Warren Stupidity   May-16-10 11:06 AM   #58 
  - I'll believe it when it happens  cowman   May-16-10 11:11 AM   #63 
  - They do have a very poor track record  protocol rv   May-16-10 11:50 AM   #85 
  - That's not really right  protocol rv   May-16-10 11:37 AM   #77 
     - Matesi was part of Sidor and it was privatized under IMF/WB coercion in 1997.  Warren Stupidity   May-16-10 12:03 PM   #93 
        - That is an example of one case  protocol rv   May-16-10 12:29 PM   #107 
           - I give up. You win too.  Warren Stupidity   May-16-10 12:52 PM   #115 
              - Just remember, you are a communist too! Just like Chavez!  Cleobulus   May-16-10 12:53 PM   #117 
                 - Me! Me! I want to be on the enemies list too!  bemildred   May-16-10 01:01 PM   #121 
  - Now we'll finally get to use all those military bases we're building in Colombia. nt  bertman   May-16-10 11:23 AM   #71 
  - LOL  protocol rv   May-16-10 11:39 AM   #78 
     - Thanks. Humor in the tried and true form of Irony. The truth is: it's true.  bertman   May-16-10 10:22 PM   #180 
        - Sorry, what's true?  protocol rv   May-17-10 07:27 AM   #195 
           - What's true is that the U.S. could very easily use bases in Colombia to support an  bertman   May-17-10 08:16 PM   #231 
              - protocol rv, where are you? I'm eagerly awaiting your explanation. nt  bertman   May-19-10 10:20 AM   #250 
  - Well this thread was predictable.  Odin2005   May-16-10 11:43 AM   #82 
  - Was it?  protocol rv   May-16-10 11:48 AM   #84 
  - Unfortunatly  cowman   May-16-10 12:08 PM   #95 
  - Well, there are communists everywhere  protocol rv   May-16-10 12:22 PM   #103 
  - Oh you won't get no argument from  cowman   May-16-10 12:39 PM   #111 
  - You mean he could be behaving like Uribe?  Flaneur   May-16-10 01:55 PM   #132 
  - "communistoids"  Forkboy   May-16-10 12:27 PM   #105 
     - Depends on the point of view  protocol rv   May-16-10 01:40 PM   #130 
  - Like moths to a flame. nt  bemildred   May-16-10 11:57 AM   #89 
     - Come on, you do like debate, don't you?  protocol rv   May-16-10 12:24 PM   #104 
        - This is more about entertainment, it doesn't really rise to the level of debate.  bemildred   May-16-10 12:50 PM   #114 
           - Very well put,  cowman   May-16-10 12:53 PM   #118 
           - Thank you. nt  bemildred   May-16-10 12:56 PM   #120 
              - Would love to entertain more  cowman   May-16-10 01:37 PM   #127 
                 - Yeah, I know, I got mockingbirds. At least two pairs, living in my bushes. nt  bemildred   May-16-10 04:57 PM   #155 
                    - Mockingbirds are beautiful  cowman   May-16-10 05:08 PM   #156 
                       - Yep, I have to help drive off the bluejays now and then.  bemildred   May-16-10 05:23 PM   #157 
                          - Bluejays are another  cowman   May-16-10 05:50 PM   #159 
           - This is more about distraction, it doesn't rise to the level of entertainment.  EFerrari   May-17-10 06:24 AM   #189 
              - Oh, I can assure you that sometimes it does rise to the level of entertainment.  bemildred   May-17-10 09:25 AM   #203 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-16-10 12:28 PM   #106 
  - Well that's one way to nationalize an industry without having to pay  FLPanhandle   May-16-10 03:52 PM   #143 
  - Yes, and they are in deep trouble  protocol rv   May-16-10 05:58 PM   #160 
  - The private share holders will be compensated.  Warren Stupidity   May-17-10 05:56 AM   #188 
     - Quite different  protocol rv   May-17-10 07:18 AM   #191 
     - "the government simply determined the amount"  FLPanhandle   May-17-10 09:30 AM   #204 
        - Actually it is pretty much like every eminent domain process.  Warren Stupidity   May-17-10 07:45 PM   #229 
           - "more or less the process Venezuela goes through"?  FLPanhandle   May-18-10 11:37 AM   #239 
              - Nope. Complete with negotiations hearings etc.  Warren Stupidity   May-18-10 12:29 PM   #241 
                 - Negotiations are meaningless unless the government has checks/balances  FLPanhandle   May-18-10 01:29 PM   #246 
  - Damn those socialists.  Prometheus Bound   May-16-10 09:55 PM   #179 
  - This has nothing to do with a country controlling its own resources  protocol rv   May-17-10 07:23 AM   #194 
     - Hey, I live in a communist country.  Prometheus Bound   May-17-10 08:17 AM   #199 
        - If a company is screwing the economy? What you don't realize is...  RainMickey   May-17-10 02:18 PM   #217 
           - You mean, the CEOs that see their little gold mines go missing?  EFerrari   May-17-10 09:55 PM   #237 
  - K & R  dipsydoodle   May-17-10 07:38 AM   #197 
  - There are OTHER PRIORITIES  ChangoLoa   May-17-10 09:07 AM   #201 
  - A change is coming soon to a country near you  classysassy   May-17-10 02:31 PM   #218 
  - Exacto. Las ferreteras ni siquiera tienen "ferrets".  RedCloud   May-17-10 04:30 PM   #219 
  - At the same time it's expensive to keep on buying these companies  ChangoLoa   May-17-10 04:39 PM   #220 
     - It's not expensive when the government gets to name their own price  FLPanhandle   May-17-10 05:38 PM   #227 
        - Be sure to post any evidence you've got to back up your claim Chavez is stealing their stuff. n/t  Judi Lynn   May-17-10 08:42 PM   #232 
        - From the original post:  RantinRavin   May-17-10 09:49 PM   #235 
           - I wish I could buy a car like that.  FLPanhandle   May-18-10 01:36 PM   #247 
        - That's not the way these negotiations work but well done  EFerrari   May-17-10 09:51 PM   #236 
           - Okay, since you know how they work.  FLPanhandle   May-18-10 01:43 PM   #248 
  - Shocking!  Socal31   May-17-10 07:16 PM   #228 
  - Good for Chavez and the future of Venezuela. Get rid of those leeches n/t  Catherina   May-18-10 01:27 PM   #245 
 

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