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pezDispenser Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 08:54 PM
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116. Phoenix here n/t
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  -Tech Firms Take More H-1Bs ChromeFoundry  Apr-21-10 09:31 PM   #0 
  - This program should not exist in the current economic climate. n/t  OhioChick   Apr-21-10 09:35 PM   #1 
  - +69 trillion  valerief   Apr-22-10 12:42 AM   #13 
  - At one point in our history, we needed guest workers due to sparse population.  HughBeaumont   Apr-22-10 05:00 AM   #32 
  - You're absolutely right. n/t  OhioChick   Apr-22-10 11:39 AM   #99 
  - + a brazillion.  kath   Apr-22-10 10:10 AM   #57 
  - F'ing disgusting  DJ13   Apr-21-10 09:37 PM   #2 
  - More Jobs Americans Won't Do, Apparently  onpatrol98   Apr-21-10 09:51 PM   #3 
  - By statute there are 65000 of them per year  treestar   Apr-21-10 10:23 PM   #4 
  - Are you in IT?  OhioChick   Apr-21-10 10:30 PM   #6 
  - No. But I sure spend a lot of money on it.  treestar   Apr-22-10 08:24 AM   #42 
     - +100000000 0000 , Bravo. n/t  UndertheOcean   Apr-22-10 10:47 AM   #62 
     - You said you're an H-1B...It would be in your best interest to agree with an immigration lawyer.  OhioChick   Apr-22-10 11:02 AM   #72 
        - Are you insinuating something ? I am first and foremost a humanist.  UndertheOcean   Apr-22-10 12:55 PM   #107 
           - I've said nothing "hateful" on this thread. n/t  OhioChick   Apr-22-10 01:08 PM   #109 
     - Not bashing lawyers, only you  OhioChick   Apr-22-10 11:13 AM   #79 
     - You spot a propagandist. Good job keeping track.  superconnected   Apr-22-10 11:39 AM   #100 
        - bullshit  pezDispenser   Apr-22-10 12:46 PM   #104 
           - You don't know , they expect you to train them on the Job . n/t  UndertheOcean   Apr-22-10 12:59 PM   #108 
           - BULL SHIT! Are you way out in the sticks? I see the problem where I am - Seattle.  superconnected   Apr-22-10 06:24 PM   #114 
           - Phoenix here n/t  pezDispenser   Apr-22-10 08:54 PM   #116 
           - I know some 'real' RoR developers in need in of work.  Regret My New Name   Apr-22-10 08:59 PM   #118 
     - Hmmm.. I think most people are blaming the companies who are doing it  Regret My New Name   Apr-22-10 08:56 PM   #117 
     - I trained my H1B replacement, so get rid of your preconceptions  Thor_MN   Apr-23-10 07:35 AM   #122 
        - Amen! nt  Lost4words   Apr-23-10 07:49 AM   #124 
  - They are more highly skilled jobs - we had 3 in one office of 20 alone  HughMoran   Apr-21-10 10:32 PM   #7 
  - The company has to prove it can and does pay the prevailing wage  treestar   Apr-22-10 08:49 AM   #47 
     - I hate to tell you this, but companies lie. H1B people have no leverage at all  HughMoran   Apr-22-10 09:54 AM   #52 
        - This is not true  pezDispenser   Apr-22-10 12:49 PM   #105 
        - Very true. n/t  OhioChick   Apr-22-10 01:21 PM   #110 
  - "1. No big effect on the overall job market in a county with 300 million people."  Oregone   Apr-21-10 10:33 PM   #8 
  - I'm sorry, but you don't have a clue.  gcomeau   Apr-22-10 01:20 AM   #19 
  - I think it is you that is gravely mistaken  Oregone   Apr-22-10 01:24 AM   #21 
  - I'm sorry... let me confirm this.  gcomeau   Apr-22-10 01:32 AM   #22 
     - Im saying the existence of the rampant fraud is a clear indication the program is not about quality  Oregone   Apr-22-10 09:12 AM   #48 
     - +1000.  UndertheOcean   Apr-22-10 10:49 AM   #63 
     - The law is flawed because it's difficult to enforce.  LoZoccolo   Apr-22-10 11:19 AM   #83 
     - Nice try, making safety standards and replacing workers equivalent.  Thor_MN   Apr-23-10 07:47 AM   #123 
  - They get paid less despite that requirement.  LoZoccolo   Apr-22-10 01:33 AM   #23 
  - And here's the problem with that claim...  gcomeau   Apr-22-10 02:29 AM   #26 
  - A study that "suggests" this to people who want to believe it  treestar   Apr-22-10 08:33 AM   #43 
  - "Hiding behind this as support for xenophobia is inexcusable"  Oregone   Apr-22-10 09:18 AM   #50 
  - Companies lie. My company did.  HughMoran   Apr-22-10 10:13 AM   #59 
  - I don't know, most people who apolgize for corporations like you appear to be doing  Thor_MN   Apr-23-10 08:03 AM   #125 
  - I have the proof  HughMoran   Apr-22-10 10:11 AM   #58 
     - "I have the proof... trust me!"  gcomeau   Apr-22-10 10:46 AM   #61 
        - I can give you the names of 3 Philippinos who were screwed by this company  HughMoran   Apr-22-10 10:52 AM   #65 
           - A whole THREE PEOPLE??? OMG! I repent!  gcomeau   Apr-22-10 11:02 AM   #71 
              - What would you accept as proof that people are skirting the laws about pay? n/t  LoZoccolo   Apr-22-10 11:05 AM   #74 
              - Clarify your question.  gcomeau   Apr-22-10 11:09 AM   #77 
                 - What would you accept as proof that...  LoZoccolo   Apr-22-10 11:14 AM   #80 
                    - Probably nothing  Oregone   Apr-22-10 11:19 AM   #82 
                    - agreed  HughMoran   Apr-22-10 11:21 AM   #88 
                    - Yeah, thats a first, right?  Oregone   Apr-22-10 11:24 AM   #89 
                       - lmao!  HughMoran   Apr-22-10 11:28 AM   #92 
                    - Next time read the link, then post it.  gcomeau   Apr-22-10 11:25 AM   #90 
                       - We actually got a purchasing agent over here on an H1-B  HughMoran   Apr-22-10 11:31 AM   #94 
                       - As I figured  Oregone   Apr-22-10 11:31 AM   #95 
                          - As *I* figured.  gcomeau   Apr-22-10 11:37 AM   #97 
                             - You must be dizzy  Oregone   Apr-22-10 11:42 AM   #102 
                    - Do you know what a "burden of proof" is?  gcomeau   Apr-22-10 11:19 AM   #85 
                       - It's your responsibility because you could respond to it if you wanted to.  LoZoccolo   Apr-22-10 11:27 AM   #91 
                          - What???  gcomeau   Apr-22-10 11:30 AM   #93 
                             - I'm not asking you to prove or disprove a claim, just state a criteria that you would accept. n/t  LoZoccolo   Apr-22-10 11:34 AM   #96 
                                - Hard. Statistical. Data. -nt  gcomeau   Apr-22-10 11:38 AM   #98 
                                   - So to confirm, you would accept anything statistical, even if it's not about workers and salaries?  LoZoccolo   Apr-22-10 11:42 AM   #103 
              - Clearly the program is perfect because your company is somewhat honest  HughMoran   Apr-22-10 11:07 AM   #75 
                 - Listen Einstein.  gcomeau   Apr-22-10 11:12 AM   #78 
                    - Did you not note in one of my posts that ANYBODY who rats out gets blacklisted?  HughMoran   Apr-22-10 11:20 AM   #86 
  - Then why did our H1B people practically hit the floor when they found out what we were making?  HughMoran   Apr-22-10 09:59 AM   #53 
  - Wow...  gcomeau   Apr-22-10 10:50 AM   #64 
     - So all companies are equally honest  HughMoran   Apr-22-10 10:55 AM   #67 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-22-10 11:00 AM   #69 
  - dupe  HughMoran   Apr-22-10 10:00 AM   #54 
  - Wages are set by the availability of labor. This is remedial economics. nt  Romulox   Apr-22-10 10:06 AM   #55 
  - I'm confused...  gcomeau   Apr-22-10 10:53 AM   #66 
     - Agreed on your confusion. The mere existence of a larger labor pool depresses wages.  Romulox   Apr-22-10 11:20 AM   #87 
  - I'm sorry, but YOU don't have a clue  DatManFromNawlins   Apr-22-10 11:03 AM   #73 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-22-10 11:14 AM   #81 
  - Plus easier to threaten labor  Juche   Apr-22-10 02:30 AM   #27 
  - You know that what they're trying to do is affect the salary of American workers.  The Backlash Cometh   Apr-22-10 04:31 AM   #31 
  - I need proof IT are out of work in large numbers  treestar   Apr-22-10 08:18 AM   #41 
     - "The OP has done millions of posts on DU on this one subject"  Oregone   Apr-22-10 09:16 AM   #49 
     - Proof?  OhioChick   Apr-22-10 11:01 AM   #70 
  - As others pointed out  jeff47   Apr-21-10 10:42 PM   #9 
  - +69 trillion  valerief   Apr-22-10 12:44 AM   #14 
  - 65,000  pezDispenser   Apr-22-10 01:14 AM   #18 
  - Would that matter?  treestar   Apr-22-10 08:34 AM   #44 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-21-10 11:11 PM   #10 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-22-10 12:44 AM   #15 
  - Here is what I want to know...  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Apr-22-10 02:01 AM   #24 
  - Of the total 5,804,180 nonimmigrant visas issued in FY 2009, 31,617 were issued to Australians  Lasher   Apr-22-10 06:17 AM   #33 
  - I am nothing but sarcastic  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Apr-22-10 09:43 AM   #51 
     - If you say so. You have harbored this sarcasm awhile.  Lasher   Apr-23-10 05:24 AM   #120 
        - No really, it is a joke. I'm not complaining about Australians  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Apr-23-10 06:31 AM   #121 
  - Believe me, if the numbers of E3, TN, or whatever visas was in the ballpark as the H-1(b) & L-1 visa...  Greyhound   Apr-23-10 01:27 AM   #119 
  - Not if your work environment consists of 80% visa workers  DisgustedTX   Apr-22-10 06:39 PM   #115 
  - It's a travesty, how IT workers are treated  daleo   Apr-21-10 10:26 PM   #5 
  - Not Long!  onpatrol98   Apr-21-10 11:20 PM   #11 
  - The problem is(いいね)  Rapier09   Apr-21-10 11:27 PM   #12 
  - As an engineering student I feel really concerned.  alp227   Apr-22-10 12:50 AM   #16 
  - as an engineering student who is really concerned  pezDispenser   Apr-22-10 01:13 AM   #17 
  - I am in IT  pezDispenser   Apr-22-10 01:24 AM   #20 
  - One of my best friends is an H1B from India  onpatrol98   Apr-22-10 07:10 AM   #36 
     - Or if your "best friend" is the one you have to train to take your job. n/t  daggahead   Apr-22-10 07:36 AM   #39 
     - +1  onpatrol98   Apr-22-10 07:50 AM   #40 
     - why would that only apply to H1B's?  pezDispenser   Apr-22-10 12:53 PM   #106 
     - Some layoffs may occur outside that context  treestar   Apr-22-10 08:40 AM   #46 
        - What makes you a "progressive"? It's not caring about your fellow man. nt  Romulox   Apr-22-10 10:08 AM   #56 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-22-10 02:29 AM   #25 
  - Tell that to the 150 American programmers in Washington State who got mass-fired  harry_pothead   Apr-22-10 04:14 AM   #29 
  - There's a large company, you may have heard of it:  DatManFromNawlins   Apr-22-10 11:07 AM   #76 
  - Craziest Rant I've Ever Heard  onpatrol98   Apr-22-10 07:09 AM   #35 
  - By the way...  onpatrol98   Apr-22-10 07:16 AM   #38 
  - ELIMINATE THE GOD DAMN H1B PROGRAM.  harry_pothead   Apr-22-10 04:12 AM   #28 
  - PS: People who hire H1bs for engineering and critical jobs when Americans are avialable...  harry_pothead   Apr-22-10 04:16 AM   #30 
  - H1B should end ...  hayu_lol   Apr-22-10 06:37 AM   #34 
  - +1  superconnected   Apr-22-10 11:40 AM   #101 
  - Incalculable cost  ramapo   Apr-22-10 02:10 PM   #111 
  - Oh, Good God!  treestar   Apr-22-10 08:35 AM   #45 
  - Heads of my former company are guilty of a lot more than H1B abuse  HughMoran   Apr-22-10 03:39 PM   #113 
  - I have to wonder if the big screw-up @ McAffee ...  daggahead   Apr-22-10 07:13 AM   #37 
  - The Take My Job Now link  valerief   Apr-22-10 10:37 AM   #60 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-22-10 10:57 AM   #68 
  - From the Rules page:  OhioChick   Apr-22-10 11:19 AM   #84 
  - and why does no one speak about this on capitol hill  Endangered Specie   Apr-22-10 03:27 PM   #112 
 

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