Reply #30: Bill was a friend of his own election and re-election. To that end, he was a co-founder

[No Elephants]

of the DLC, which is akin to Third Way and New Democrat and which joined right wing nuts in subscribing to the PNAC memo.

Obama, who has described himself--but only AFTER his election--as Third Way--has hired many of the people who worked for Clinton, from Rahm on down. So, it's not surprising that you perceive Obama as on the same course.

However, IMO, Obama is somewhat to the left of Clinton on some issues and somewhat to the right of Clinton on others. He did, though, try to appear to be to left of Hillary during the primaries. And I fell for it.

In hindsight, I guess I would still have backed him 2007-2008 because what played a big part in my choice then was picking the candidate for the Democratic nomination that I thought had the best chance of winning the election. And, I was correct on that count. Then again, who really knows? I don't think McCain Palin had a realistic shot of winning, maybe not against anyone.