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147. Wow! How true. GOBAMA!
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  -President Obama orders hospital visit rights for gays, lesbians Tx4obama  Apr-15-10 07:12 PM   #0 
  - kick and rec.  ingac70   Apr-15-10 07:17 PM   #1 
  - A lot of of you REALLY aren't paying attention to the relevant details.  Zhade   Apr-16-10 07:27 PM   #220 
     - Hospitals that violate this lose Federal funding. n/t  ingac70   Apr-16-10 08:36 PM   #226 
     - Not according to the memorandum itself.  Zhade   Apr-16-10 11:26 PM   #228 
     - Nor are you paying attention to relevant details.  NYC Liberal   Apr-17-10 04:15 AM   #230 
        - Piffle. Talk to me in 6 months to a year. Show me the "profound effect."  Raster   Apr-17-10 03:14 PM   #233 
  - Perfect. K&R  secondwind   Apr-15-10 07:22 PM   #2 
  - Well done!  liberation   Apr-15-10 07:35 PM   #3 
  - Problem will still be there as far as I can tell  dbmk   Apr-16-10 03:02 AM   #84 
  - A prudent person could draw up a list of allowable visitors, beforehand.  Ikonoklast   Apr-16-10 07:13 AM   #111 
     - But what about people who are not prudent?  JDPriestly   Apr-16-10 01:48 PM   #187 
     - Well, I don't see there's a hell of a lot any institution can do about people choosing the wrong  laughingliberal   Apr-16-10 02:58 PM   #202 
        - Maybe signatures on powers of attorney should be witnessed or  JDPriestly   Apr-16-10 03:39 PM   #210 
           - They already are.  donco6   Apr-16-10 03:45 PM   #211 
           - As another poster already said, they are witnessed and notarized and it's a different issue  laughingliberal   Apr-16-10 03:54 PM   #212 
     - Won't stop a hospital from STILL ignoring the wishes of the couple.  TankLV   Apr-16-10 02:43 PM   #198 
  - When people are very, very sick, hospitals restrict their visitors.  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 05:28 AM   #89 
     - The Truthful Answer Anytime Is Yes. Let the Bastards Prove Otherwise  we can do it   Apr-16-10 07:39 AM   #117 
        - Some people don't think to say anything other than what THEY believe to be the truth.  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 08:10 AM   #128 
           - If they don't believe they are related to their partner, maybe they  RaleighNCDUer   Apr-16-10 08:50 AM   #136 
  - Lol...This great President is on fire! I am loving it.....  Change Happens   Apr-15-10 07:37 PM   #4 
  - CNN has a FULL story up now, here's the LINK  Tx4obama   Apr-15-10 07:39 PM   #5 
  - From what I can tell, it's not just gays.  MGKrebs   Apr-15-10 07:42 PM   #6 
  - Exactly. a blood relative may be the last person someone would want to see.  alphafemale   Apr-15-10 07:50 PM   #9 
  - What could be crueler than using a person's illness (especially if it's a terminal illness)  Ken Burch   Apr-15-10 08:30 PM   #28 
  - Right on the mark! n/t  Mopar151   Apr-15-10 10:07 PM   #59 
  - that's what health proxys are for. but that requires forethought.  ejpoeta   Apr-16-10 08:15 AM   #130 
     - And, as I said upthread - THEY ARE CONSTANTLY IGNORED even with all the paperwork at hand!!!  TankLV   Apr-16-10 02:46 PM   #199 
  - Can you IMAGINE it would ever be any other way....?  NoSheep   Apr-15-10 11:53 PM   #69 
  - "He wants the patient to be able to decide who can visit"  awoke_in_2003   Apr-16-10 01:09 AM   #75 
  - Right. It also helps non-English speakers designate a heatlh advocate.  Liberty Belle   Apr-16-10 03:37 AM   #85 
  - the issue tends to arise when the patient may well not be capable of making a decision.  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 05:37 AM   #90 
  - What a concept!  Kajsa   Apr-16-10 06:21 PM   #218 
  - Good. One step in the right direction. K & R  tandot   Apr-15-10 07:45 PM   #7 
  - Good news. Good for the president.  EFerrari   Apr-15-10 07:45 PM   #8 
  - Great step in the right direction.  dencol   Apr-15-10 07:51 PM   #10 
  - Agreed.  Delphinus   Apr-15-10 09:18 PM   #44 
  - Thanks, Prez!  chollybocker   Apr-15-10 07:51 PM   #11 
  - While I like this...  SocialistLez   Apr-15-10 07:52 PM   #12 
  - But 'regulations' fall in the lap of HHS Sebelius' department. n/t  Tx4obama   Apr-15-10 08:02 PM   #13 
  - No law says it has to be a rule, though,. Or a law. It could be one or the other, or both.  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 05:43 AM   #92 
  - IMO we are very near the start where either there will be legislation  LiberalFighter   Apr-15-10 08:26 PM   #25 
  - Aren't most of our hospitals now Catholic Church run? Let the whining begin!  defendandprotect   Apr-15-10 09:22 PM   #47 
     - I don't think so. Maybe in some areas in some states, but not down here in Texas.  Tx4obama   Apr-15-10 09:27 PM   #48 
     - Well, if this causes the Catholic conscience to ache, they'll be asking for exemption...  defendandprotect   Apr-15-10 09:34 PM   #52 
     - Not sure why you are singling out Catholics. Evangelicals and others are just as homophobic, if not  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 07:10 AM   #110 
        - First, do Evangelicals run hospitals? Catholic Church does run many of them --  defendandprotect   Apr-16-10 09:21 AM   #140 
        - Sure they do. In my home town we had Methodist Hospital, Baptist Hospital  laughingliberal   Apr-16-10 03:12 PM   #205 
           - Agree they are Protestants . . . not necessarily "Evangelicals," tho, are they?  defendandprotect   Apr-16-10 07:55 PM   #221 
        - I Don't Recall Evangelical Charities Threatening To Move Out Of DC Once Gay Marriage Passed.  Toasterlad   Apr-16-10 12:56 PM   #181 
           - And it was primarily US Catholic Bishops attacking HCR ... birth control, contraceptives, abortion -  defendandprotect   Apr-16-10 08:02 PM   #222 
     - How about other Christian religious hospitals? And it does not even have to be a hospital policy  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 06:05 AM   #93 
     - Conversationally . . . "end of life" wishes will also come into play here ...  defendandprotect   Apr-16-10 08:06 PM   #223 
     - Please see Reply 34.  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 07:06 AM   #108 
     - When I had a heart attack, my partner was ENCOURAGED to go in with me at our Catholic Hospital  TankLV   Apr-16-10 02:48 PM   #200 
  - I'd rather see it done through recognition of life partners  Cal Carpenter   Apr-16-10 05:15 AM   #88 
  - Separate but equal is never equal, so "no whatever its name" business.  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 06:09 AM   #94 
  - Marriage, yep, and I apologize for my vagueness  Cal Carpenter   Apr-16-10 06:24 AM   #99 
     - I agree, but there is only so much he can do on his own.  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 06:48 AM   #104 
  - ... and this could get even more interesting in military .... ???  defendandprotect   Apr-16-10 08:09 PM   #224 
  - It may never get through Congress. Reflect on the abortion rider to the  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 05:41 AM   #91 
  - This is such crap with the DADT . . . I'd bet a very few are managing to hold this up ...  defendandprotect   Apr-16-10 08:12 PM   #225 
  - Could, but won't  Abacus   Apr-16-10 10:31 AM   #159 
  - Excellent start.  Patsy Stone   Apr-15-10 08:06 PM   #14 
  - Excellet!  SeattleGirl   Apr-15-10 08:09 PM   #15 
  - +1  Lex   Apr-15-10 10:48 PM   #63 
  - K&R!  Omaha Steve   Apr-15-10 08:10 PM   #16 
  - Woo Hoo !  proud patriot   Apr-15-10 08:12 PM   #17 
  - Good for Obama. If this is now policy, because of his word alone, he is to be  change_notfinetuning   Apr-15-10 08:14 PM   #18 
  - The "word" of a POTUS alone does not result in a rule. There is a rulemaking process.  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 06:12 AM   #96 
  - K&R  foxfeet   Apr-15-10 08:18 PM   #19 
  - CNN has a FULL story up now, here's the LINK  Tx4obama   Apr-15-10 08:18 PM   #20 
  - Good on the Prez!!  whathehell   Apr-15-10 08:18 PM   #21 
  - This never should have gone on this long.  PatrynXX   Apr-15-10 08:20 PM   #22 
  - You can NOW designate ANYone as your medical proxy, not only a relative by marriage or blood.  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 06:15 AM   #97 
  - Wow - way to go  rurallib   Apr-15-10 08:20 PM   #23 
  - "Who knew he had that kind of power"  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 06:34 AM   #101 
  - This is wonderful!!!!  Politicub   Apr-15-10 08:23 PM   #24 
  - Way better than nothing.  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 06:39 AM   #103 
     - Agree on the advance directive - it's one of the most important documents  Politicub   Apr-16-10 01:53 PM   #189 
  - K&R  Ken Burch   Apr-15-10 08:28 PM   #26 
  - Probably.  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 06:36 AM   #102 
  - There is no need. The text of the announcement says:  Bluenorthwest   Apr-16-10 08:12 AM   #129 
  - Are you thinking about that 'city of faith' hospital? It closed down years ago  Mother Smuckers   Apr-16-10 10:13 AM   #152 
     - Didn't know that. Thanks for the update.  Ken Burch   Apr-16-10 04:18 PM   #215 
  - Good idea but we already have a "rule" for that. It is called marriage equality.  beyurslf   Apr-15-10 08:28 PM   #27 
  - OMG, what a pleasant surprise! Thank you, Barack.  closeupready   Apr-15-10 08:30 PM   #29 
  - OK, he scores with me on this one!  DesertDiamond   Apr-15-10 08:30 PM   #30 
  - I think he continue to do great things  keepthemhonest   Apr-15-10 08:31 PM   #31 
  - Good for Obama!  proteus_lives   Apr-15-10 08:33 PM   #32 
  - THAT sure is a step in the correct direction!  BrklynLiberal   Apr-15-10 08:35 PM   #33 
  - He called Janice Langbehn to personally tell her  freeplessinseattle   Apr-15-10 08:37 PM   #34 
  - That'll make us wait for the repeal of DADT...  AzNick   Apr-15-10 08:40 PM   #35 
  - Oh, the fundies and tea-freaks are  Left Coast2020   Apr-15-10 08:50 PM   #36 
  - Good, then they'll have to go th the hospital and have to deal...  rasputin1952   Apr-15-10 08:53 PM   #37 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-16-10 02:19 AM   #80 
  - I'm glad it's their turn to do that finally. The rest of us have been ripping our hair out our  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 07:16 AM   #112 
  - Please see Reply 101.  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 07:05 AM   #107 
  - He has to go under the bus and find em, first! n/t  Fire1   Apr-15-10 08:55 PM   #38 
  - The Tea Baggers will REALLY freak out! Bravo! nt  Joey Liberal   Apr-15-10 09:03 PM   #39 
  - Freaking Out looks good on the Bags! This is awesome news!  goclark   Apr-15-10 09:30 PM   #50 
  - Hey Freeperbaggers, Take a look at the future of military hospital waiting rooms --->  onehandle   Apr-15-10 09:05 PM   #40 
  - In all likelihood, military hospital waiting rooms will continue to look like military  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 07:33 AM   #115 
     - Well, yes. Of course. People are people.  onehandle   Apr-16-10 08:47 AM   #135 
  - Good!  BreweryYardRat   Apr-15-10 09:06 PM   #41 
  - Please see Reply ##s 27 and 101.  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 07:19 AM   #113 
  - What?  liquid diamond   Apr-15-10 09:13 PM   #42 
  - I say WOOHOO with tears in my eyes  fortyfeetunder   Apr-15-10 09:14 PM   #43 
  - K&R -- and compliments to Obama for guts -- !!  defendandprotect   Apr-15-10 09:19 PM   #45 
  - Kick.  pinto   Apr-15-10 09:21 PM   #46 
  - k & r  southern_belle   Apr-15-10 09:30 PM   #49 
  - Excellent news!  tilsammans   Apr-15-10 09:33 PM   #51 
  - excellent. well done. n/t  bkozumplik   Apr-15-10 09:36 PM   #53 
  - well worth my rec'd and......  BunkerHill24   Apr-15-10 09:47 PM   #54 
  - Is it just me...  Beams1969   Apr-15-10 09:47 PM   #55 
  - Not just you......  proudohioan   Apr-16-10 04:18 AM   #86 
  - K&R n/t  myrna minx   Apr-15-10 09:55 PM   #56 
  - Better than nothing  slay   Apr-15-10 10:00 PM   #57 
  - The Thinking Person's President :)  Guilded Lilly   Apr-15-10 10:01 PM   #58 
  - (read as sing-songy as possible) Huckabee's not gonna like this.....  AlbertCat   Apr-15-10 10:09 PM   #60 
  - Good.  BlueIris   Apr-15-10 10:10 PM   #61 
  - Outstanding.  Juan_de_la_Dem   Apr-15-10 10:27 PM   #62 
  - awesome! nt  unpossibles   Apr-15-10 11:00 PM   #64 
  - Thank you President Obama  Tumbulu   Apr-15-10 11:13 PM   #65 
  - Wow! And it's about time.  Kind of Blue   Apr-15-10 11:21 PM   #66 
  - KnR. We're getting there.  Hekate   Apr-15-10 11:46 PM   #67 
  - Just one step in the right direction. Next are MARRIAGE RIGHTS! n/t  alp227   Apr-15-10 11:47 PM   #68 
  - K & R. Good for Pres Obama and good riddance  chill_wind   Apr-16-10 12:00 AM   #70 
  - Without marriage how do they prove they are partners?  marshall   Apr-16-10 12:45 AM   #71 
  - Yep  Tx4obama   Apr-16-10 01:44 AM   #78 
     - I do not know of any state that limits your choice of medical proxy or medical agent to  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 08:03 AM   #126 
     - In the case of the woman & partner which inspired Obama's memorandum  Tx4obama   Apr-16-10 01:54 PM   #190 
     - That should have been the case now  marshall   Apr-16-10 08:33 AM   #132 
  - K&R  harry_pothead   Apr-16-10 12:55 AM   #72 
  - He's dead?  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 07:25 AM   #114 
     - Wishful thinking?  keepCAblue   Apr-16-10 04:04 PM   #214 
     - No I was using poetic license  harry_pothead   Apr-16-10 07:21 PM   #219 
  - K&R  awoke_in_2003   Apr-16-10 01:07 AM   #73 
  - Booyah. Should have always been the case.  tburnsten   Apr-16-10 01:07 AM   #74 
  - May depend upon what state we're talking about. Please see Reply 34.  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 07:39 AM   #118 
  - Well, as came up in the union thread earlier,  tburnsten   Apr-16-10 09:43 PM   #227 
  - Its rather common... Esp if the family doesn't approve... they can really  glowing   Apr-16-10 08:38 AM   #134 
  - Excellent news  MarshalltheIrish   Apr-16-10 01:15 AM   #76 
  - That is awesome!  gtar100   Apr-16-10 01:32 AM   #77 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-16-10 09:44 AM   #145 
  - k/r  ccharles000   Apr-16-10 02:04 AM   #79 
  - This made my day!  daughter of liberty2   Apr-16-10 02:32 AM   #81 
  - Its a huge deal  impik   Apr-16-10 02:44 AM   #82 
  - Text of President Obama's memorandum/statement  Tx4obama   Apr-16-10 03:01 AM   #83 
  - You must stil have legal, signed,advance directives  Bluenorthwest   Apr-16-10 08:32 AM   #131 
     - Exactly. One has to read all the way to the bottom of the memo  HillWilliam   Apr-16-10 10:24 AM   #157 
     - Wrong. Obama has ordered HHS to create the rule.  Tx4obama   Apr-16-10 02:59 PM   #203 
        - Let's take a count, shall we:  HillWilliam   Apr-16-10 03:37 PM   #209 
     - No one ever said that the rule was in place as of now  Tx4obama   Apr-16-10 02:57 PM   #201 
  - This is wonderful news.  lamp_shade   Apr-16-10 04:44 AM   #87 
  - At last!  Rosa Luxemburg   Apr-16-10 06:10 AM   #95 
  - What took him so long?  Betty Karlson   Apr-16-10 06:21 AM   #98 
  - Perhaps he needed enactment of the health care reform bill?  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 07:43 AM   #119 
  - This will confuse and perplex the conservatives....  Jeff In Milwaukee   Apr-16-10 06:25 AM   #100 
  - Great, another grand gesture that really does not mean shit.  Raster   Apr-16-10 06:52 AM   #105 
  - Please see Reply ##s 34 and 101.  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 07:52 AM   #123 
  - From one of us "nice straight folks" out here...  Iggo   Apr-16-10 09:08 AM   #139 
  - A.F.T.  CLANG   Apr-16-10 06:55 AM   #106 
  - Wonderful news!  Mad_Dem_X   Apr-16-10 07:07 AM   #109 
  - CHANGE we can believe in!  NJmaverick   Apr-16-10 07:38 AM   #116 
  - K&R  Soylent Brice   Apr-16-10 07:44 AM   #120 
  - kick  Blue_Tires   Apr-16-10 07:45 AM   #121 
  - Of course, the need for such special rules come from our lack of  Bluenorthwest   Apr-16-10 07:52 AM   #122 
  - Ken Cuccinelli  mahatmakanejeeves   Apr-16-10 07:56 AM   #124 
  - Will a federal court even hear a challenge to the rule before the rule is actually made?  No Elephants   Apr-16-10 08:08 AM   #127 
  - Should Have Happened A LOOOOOOOOOOOG time ago  onpatrol98   Apr-16-10 07:57 AM   #125 
  - Good Job Mr. President....  fascisthunter   Apr-16-10 08:35 AM   #133 
  - ThatsMyBarack!  ThatsMyBarack   Apr-16-10 08:57 AM   #137 
  - The upright straights will have to share their hospitals with teh h-h-h-homosexuals?  krispos42   Apr-16-10 09:07 AM   #138 
  - Great comment at CNN  mahatmakanejeeves   Apr-16-10 09:24 AM   #141 
  - Wow! How true. GOBAMA!  crazylikafox   Apr-16-10 09:52 AM   #147 
  - Out-goddamn-standing!  Deep13   Apr-16-10 09:29 AM   #142 
  - You People Realize This Is Meaningless, Right?  Toasterlad   Apr-16-10 09:35 AM   #143 
  - And Another Thing...Gay Equality Is Not About Pissing Off Republicans  Toasterlad   Apr-16-10 09:40 AM   #144 
  - I tend to agree with T-Lad  sui generis   Apr-16-10 11:10 AM   #163 
  - That's hilarious...in a kinda tragic way.  Mother Smuckers   Apr-16-10 11:35 AM   #167 
  - I agree. I get sick of the sporting event model of politics  laughingliberal   Apr-16-10 03:16 PM   #206 
  - I really need to see the meat of this --  Hell Hath No Fury   Apr-16-10 10:09 AM   #150 
  - Someone Posted the Full Text Upthread  Toasterlad   Apr-16-10 10:12 AM   #151 
     - OK, just read it --  Hell Hath No Fury   Apr-16-10 11:43 AM   #170 
        - It's because the memo ITSELF doesn't create new regulations, the memo orders  NYC Liberal   Apr-16-10 01:08 PM   #183 
  - Um, sorry but that's total bullshit.  NYC Liberal   Apr-16-10 11:01 AM   #162 
     - Well, if this snip from the text doesn't mean what it says, what DOES it mean?  Mother Smuckers   Apr-16-10 11:23 AM   #164 
     - The more I read it, the more I am happy with it.  NYC Liberal   Apr-16-10 12:12 PM   #172 
     - I Read It. Did YOU?  Toasterlad   Apr-16-10 11:25 AM   #165 
        - Um yes. The MEMO ITSELF does not  NYC Liberal   Apr-16-10 12:13 PM   #173 
           - Oh, Really? How?  Toasterlad   Apr-16-10 12:27 PM   #174 
              - That's not at all what it says.  NYC Liberal   Apr-16-10 12:39 PM   #176 
                 - And How Do You Suppose It's Going To Do That?  Toasterlad   Apr-16-10 12:42 PM   #177 
                    - OK, what don't you get about this?  NYC Liberal   Apr-16-10 01:07 PM   #182 
                    - Well, I Guess We'll See, Won't We?  Toasterlad   Apr-16-10 02:11 PM   #192 
                    - HHS is already authorized by law to setup rules for HHS funding.  ieoeja   Apr-16-10 01:12 PM   #184 
  - Kicked and recommended.  Uncle Joe   Apr-16-10 09:45 AM   #146 
  - President Obama is a great man.  BlancheSplanchnik   Apr-16-10 09:58 AM   #148 
  - I sure hope this doesn't end up being a setback, it basically neutralizes one of the more  Mother Smuckers   Apr-16-10 10:06 AM   #149 
  - It Doesn't Neutralize Anything. It Doesn't Change Anything.  Toasterlad   Apr-16-10 10:13 AM   #153 
  - You don't think the fundies will use it as ammunition against our quest for equality?  Mother Smuckers   Apr-16-10 10:19 AM   #156 
     - Then Why Not Do Something That Actually MEANS Something?  Toasterlad   Apr-16-10 10:36 AM   #160 
        - I absolutely agree with that, hence my somewhat cynical comment.  Mother Smuckers   Apr-16-10 10:43 AM   #161 
  - It "neutralizes" NOTHING!  TankLV   Apr-16-10 03:06 PM   #204 
     - You are so correct, Tank. It is meaningless.  Raster   Apr-17-10 03:12 PM   #232 
  - Good, basic housekeeping measure  DirkGently   Apr-16-10 10:15 AM   #154 
  - It's about damn time!  AllyCat   Apr-16-10 10:18 AM   #155 
  - Daaaaammmmnnnn.  The Backlash Cometh   Apr-16-10 10:26 AM   #158 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Apr-16-10 11:29 AM   #166 
  - Thank you. God bless Obama.  jeremyfive   Apr-16-10 11:36 AM   #168 
  - What if a hospital decides to ignore this suggestion? There's no legal remedy for that.  Mother Smuckers   Apr-16-10 11:40 AM   #169 
  - You are missing the point  Tx4obama   Apr-17-10 04:10 PM   #234 
  - He Didn't DO Anything. He Did What He Always Does: Talk.  Toasterlad   Apr-16-10 11:55 AM   #171 
     - You are willfully misconstruing this.  Ikonoklast   Apr-16-10 02:10 PM   #191 
        - Fine. I'll Concede Your Point and Wait Until the "Rules" Are Established.  Toasterlad   Apr-16-10 02:14 PM   #193 
           - Just like in my business, a proposed 'rule' is just so much vaporware.  Ikonoklast   Apr-16-10 02:33 PM   #196 
              - I Hope YOU'RE Right  Toasterlad   Apr-16-10 03:24 PM   #207 
  - It's a start.  Patriot 76   Apr-16-10 12:38 PM   #175 
  - GLAAD Applauds Presidential Memorandum Adding Hospital Visitation Protections for Same-Sex Couples  ProSense   Apr-16-10 12:45 PM   #178 
  - I Guess We Have Equality Now.  Toasterlad   Apr-16-10 12:51 PM   #179 
     - I understand your frustration, but him making a point to even discuss this issue and make this  Divine Discontent   Apr-16-10 01:13 PM   #185 
  - Congratulations, President Obama! Do the Right Thing and We'll get YOUR Back and  patrice   Apr-16-10 12:51 PM   #180 
  - What hospital asks for a patient's sexual orientation?  Tracer   Apr-16-10 01:40 PM   #186 
  - To the people on this thread who sadly think this is a token gesture  Politicub   Apr-16-10 01:50 PM   #188 
  - You Don't Understand.  Toasterlad   Apr-16-10 02:19 PM   #195 
  - This is great news.  alarimer   Apr-16-10 02:15 PM   #194 
  - About fucking time - LONG overdue!  TankLV   Apr-16-10 02:42 PM   #197 
  - great step forward, now let's get to legal/POA for partner  katty   Apr-16-10 03:33 PM   #208 
  - Here's what I think this might actually mean.  donco6   Apr-16-10 03:58 PM   #213 
  - Thanks, I believe and most earnestly HOPE you're right about that. What do you think about  Mother Smuckers   Apr-16-10 04:41 PM   #216 
  - It's about time!  Kajsa   Apr-16-10 06:19 PM   #217 
  - Why, in the f-ing world, would anyone be against this?  Socal31   Apr-17-10 01:56 AM   #229 
  - Let me tell you a story, a true story:  Raster   Apr-17-10 03:10 PM   #231 
  - Why would anyone think this is a bad thing?  UndecidedGuy   May-03-10 03:32 PM   #235 
 

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