| President Obama orders hospital visit rights for gays, lesbians |
| -President Obama orders hospital visit rights for gays, lesbians |
Tx4obama |
Apr-15-10 07:12 PM |
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kick and rec. |
ingac70 |
Apr-15-10 07:17 PM |
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A lot of of you REALLY aren't paying attention to the relevant details. |
Zhade |
Apr-16-10 07:27 PM |
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Hospitals that violate this lose Federal funding. n/t |
ingac70 |
Apr-16-10 08:36 PM |
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Not according to the memorandum itself. |
Zhade |
Apr-16-10 11:26 PM |
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Nor are you paying attention to relevant details. |
NYC Liberal |
Apr-17-10 04:15 AM |
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Piffle. Talk to me in 6 months to a year. Show me the "profound effect." |
Raster |
Apr-17-10 03:14 PM |
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Perfect. K&R |
secondwind |
Apr-15-10 07:22 PM |
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Well done! |
liberation |
Apr-15-10 07:35 PM |
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Problem will still be there as far as I can tell |
dbmk |
Apr-16-10 03:02 AM |
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A prudent person could draw up a list of allowable visitors, beforehand. |
Ikonoklast |
Apr-16-10 07:13 AM |
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But what about people who are not prudent? |
JDPriestly |
Apr-16-10 01:48 PM |
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Well, I don't see there's a hell of a lot any institution can do about people choosing the wrong |
laughingliberal |
Apr-16-10 02:58 PM |
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Maybe signatures on powers of attorney should be witnessed or |
JDPriestly |
Apr-16-10 03:39 PM |
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They already are. |
donco6 |
Apr-16-10 03:45 PM |
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As another poster already said, they are witnessed and notarized and it's a different issue |
laughingliberal |
Apr-16-10 03:54 PM |
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Won't stop a hospital from STILL ignoring the wishes of the couple. |
TankLV |
Apr-16-10 02:43 PM |
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When people are very, very sick, hospitals restrict their visitors. |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 05:28 AM |
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The Truthful Answer Anytime Is Yes. Let the Bastards Prove Otherwise |
we can do it |
Apr-16-10 07:39 AM |
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Some people don't think to say anything other than what THEY believe to be the truth. |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 08:10 AM |
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If they don't believe they are related to their partner, maybe they |
RaleighNCDUer |
Apr-16-10 08:50 AM |
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Lol...This great President is on fire! I am loving it..... |
Change Happens |
Apr-15-10 07:37 PM |
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CNN has a FULL story up now, here's the LINK |
Tx4obama |
Apr-15-10 07:39 PM |
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From what I can tell, it's not just gays. |
MGKrebs |
Apr-15-10 07:42 PM |
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Exactly. a blood relative may be the last person someone would want to see. |
alphafemale |
Apr-15-10 07:50 PM |
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What could be crueler than using a person's illness (especially if it's a terminal illness) |
Ken Burch |
Apr-15-10 08:30 PM |
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Right on the mark! n/t |
Mopar151 |
Apr-15-10 10:07 PM |
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that's what health proxys are for. but that requires forethought. |
ejpoeta |
Apr-16-10 08:15 AM |
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And, as I said upthread - THEY ARE CONSTANTLY IGNORED even with all the paperwork at hand!!! |
TankLV |
Apr-16-10 02:46 PM |
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Can you IMAGINE it would ever be any other way....? |
NoSheep |
Apr-15-10 11:53 PM |
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"He wants the patient to be able to decide who can visit" |
awoke_in_2003 |
Apr-16-10 01:09 AM |
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Right. It also helps non-English speakers designate a heatlh advocate. |
Liberty Belle |
Apr-16-10 03:37 AM |
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the issue tends to arise when the patient may well not be capable of making a decision. |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 05:37 AM |
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What a concept! |
Kajsa |
Apr-16-10 06:21 PM |
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Good. One step in the right direction. K & R |
tandot |
Apr-15-10 07:45 PM |
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Good news. Good for the president. |
EFerrari |
Apr-15-10 07:45 PM |
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Great step in the right direction. |
dencol |
Apr-15-10 07:51 PM |
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Agreed. |
Delphinus |
Apr-15-10 09:18 PM |
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Thanks, Prez! |
chollybocker |
Apr-15-10 07:51 PM |
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While I like this... |
SocialistLez |
Apr-15-10 07:52 PM |
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But 'regulations' fall in the lap of HHS Sebelius' department. n/t |
Tx4obama |
Apr-15-10 08:02 PM |
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No law says it has to be a rule, though,. Or a law. It could be one or the other, or both. |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 05:43 AM |
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IMO we are very near the start where either there will be legislation |
LiberalFighter |
Apr-15-10 08:26 PM |
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Aren't most of our hospitals now Catholic Church run? Let the whining begin! |
defendandprotect |
Apr-15-10 09:22 PM |
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I don't think so. Maybe in some areas in some states, but not down here in Texas. |
Tx4obama |
Apr-15-10 09:27 PM |
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Well, if this causes the Catholic conscience to ache, they'll be asking for exemption... |
defendandprotect |
Apr-15-10 09:34 PM |
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Not sure why you are singling out Catholics. Evangelicals and others are just as homophobic, if not |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 07:10 AM |
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First, do Evangelicals run hospitals? Catholic Church does run many of them -- |
defendandprotect |
Apr-16-10 09:21 AM |
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Sure they do. In my home town we had Methodist Hospital, Baptist Hospital |
laughingliberal |
Apr-16-10 03:12 PM |
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Agree they are Protestants . . . not necessarily "Evangelicals," tho, are they? |
defendandprotect |
Apr-16-10 07:55 PM |
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I Don't Recall Evangelical Charities Threatening To Move Out Of DC Once Gay Marriage Passed. |
Toasterlad |
Apr-16-10 12:56 PM |
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And it was primarily US Catholic Bishops attacking HCR ... birth control, contraceptives, abortion - |
defendandprotect |
Apr-16-10 08:02 PM |
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How about other Christian religious hospitals? And it does not even have to be a hospital policy |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 06:05 AM |
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Conversationally . . . "end of life" wishes will also come into play here ... |
defendandprotect |
Apr-16-10 08:06 PM |
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Please see Reply 34. |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 07:06 AM |
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When I had a heart attack, my partner was ENCOURAGED to go in with me at our Catholic Hospital |
TankLV |
Apr-16-10 02:48 PM |
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I'd rather see it done through recognition of life partners |
Cal Carpenter |
Apr-16-10 05:15 AM |
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Separate but equal is never equal, so "no whatever its name" business. |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 06:09 AM |
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Marriage, yep, and I apologize for my vagueness |
Cal Carpenter |
Apr-16-10 06:24 AM |
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I agree, but there is only so much he can do on his own. |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 06:48 AM |
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... and this could get even more interesting in military .... ??? |
defendandprotect |
Apr-16-10 08:09 PM |
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It may never get through Congress. Reflect on the abortion rider to the |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 05:41 AM |
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This is such crap with the DADT . . . I'd bet a very few are managing to hold this up ... |
defendandprotect |
Apr-16-10 08:12 PM |
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Could, but won't |
Abacus |
Apr-16-10 10:31 AM |
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Excellent start. |
Patsy Stone |
Apr-15-10 08:06 PM |
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Excellet! |
SeattleGirl |
Apr-15-10 08:09 PM |
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+1 |
Lex |
Apr-15-10 10:48 PM |
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K&R! |
Omaha Steve |
Apr-15-10 08:10 PM |
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Woo Hoo ! |
proud patriot |
Apr-15-10 08:12 PM |
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Good for Obama. If this is now policy, because of his word alone, he is to be |
change_notfinetuning |
Apr-15-10 08:14 PM |
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The "word" of a POTUS alone does not result in a rule. There is a rulemaking process. |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 06:12 AM |
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K&R |
foxfeet |
Apr-15-10 08:18 PM |
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CNN has a FULL story up now, here's the LINK |
Tx4obama |
Apr-15-10 08:18 PM |
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Good on the Prez!! |
whathehell |
Apr-15-10 08:18 PM |
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This never should have gone on this long. |
PatrynXX |
Apr-15-10 08:20 PM |
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You can NOW designate ANYone as your medical proxy, not only a relative by marriage or blood. |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 06:15 AM |
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Wow - way to go |
rurallib |
Apr-15-10 08:20 PM |
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"Who knew he had that kind of power" |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 06:34 AM |
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This is wonderful!!!! |
Politicub |
Apr-15-10 08:23 PM |
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Way better than nothing. |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 06:39 AM |
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Agree on the advance directive - it's one of the most important documents |
Politicub |
Apr-16-10 01:53 PM |
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K&R |
Ken Burch |
Apr-15-10 08:28 PM |
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Probably. |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 06:36 AM |
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There is no need. The text of the announcement says: |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-16-10 08:12 AM |
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Are you thinking about that 'city of faith' hospital? It closed down years ago |
Mother Smuckers |
Apr-16-10 10:13 AM |
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Didn't know that. Thanks for the update. |
Ken Burch |
Apr-16-10 04:18 PM |
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Good idea but we already have a "rule" for that. It is called marriage equality. |
beyurslf |
Apr-15-10 08:28 PM |
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OMG, what a pleasant surprise! Thank you, Barack. |
closeupready |
Apr-15-10 08:30 PM |
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OK, he scores with me on this one! |
DesertDiamond |
Apr-15-10 08:30 PM |
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I think he continue to do great things |
keepthemhonest |
Apr-15-10 08:31 PM |
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Good for Obama! |
proteus_lives |
Apr-15-10 08:33 PM |
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THAT sure is a step in the correct direction! |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-15-10 08:35 PM |
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He called Janice Langbehn to personally tell her |
freeplessinseattle |
Apr-15-10 08:37 PM |
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That'll make us wait for the repeal of DADT... |
AzNick |
Apr-15-10 08:40 PM |
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Oh, the fundies and tea-freaks are |
Left Coast2020 |
Apr-15-10 08:50 PM |
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Good, then they'll have to go th the hospital and have to deal... |
rasputin1952 |
Apr-15-10 08:53 PM |
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Apr-16-10 02:19 AM |
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I'm glad it's their turn to do that finally. The rest of us have been ripping our hair out our |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 07:16 AM |
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Please see Reply 101. |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 07:05 AM |
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He has to go under the bus and find em, first! n/t |
Fire1 |
Apr-15-10 08:55 PM |
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The Tea Baggers will REALLY freak out! Bravo! nt |
Joey Liberal |
Apr-15-10 09:03 PM |
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Freaking Out looks good on the Bags! This is awesome news! |
goclark |
Apr-15-10 09:30 PM |
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Hey Freeperbaggers, Take a look at the future of military hospital waiting rooms ---> |
onehandle |
Apr-15-10 09:05 PM |
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In all likelihood, military hospital waiting rooms will continue to look like military |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 07:33 AM |
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Well, yes. Of course. People are people. |
onehandle |
Apr-16-10 08:47 AM |
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Good! |
BreweryYardRat |
Apr-15-10 09:06 PM |
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Please see Reply ##s 27 and 101. |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 07:19 AM |
#113 |
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What? |
liquid diamond |
Apr-15-10 09:13 PM |
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I say WOOHOO with tears in my eyes |
fortyfeetunder |
Apr-15-10 09:14 PM |
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K&R -- and compliments to Obama for guts -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Apr-15-10 09:19 PM |
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Kick. |
pinto |
Apr-15-10 09:21 PM |
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k & r |
southern_belle |
Apr-15-10 09:30 PM |
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Excellent news! |
tilsammans |
Apr-15-10 09:33 PM |
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excellent. well done. n/t |
bkozumplik |
Apr-15-10 09:36 PM |
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well worth my rec'd and...... |
BunkerHill24 |
Apr-15-10 09:47 PM |
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Is it just me... |
Beams1969 |
Apr-15-10 09:47 PM |
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Not just you...... |
proudohioan |
Apr-16-10 04:18 AM |
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K&R n/t |
myrna minx |
Apr-15-10 09:55 PM |
#56 |
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Better than nothing |
slay |
Apr-15-10 10:00 PM |
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The Thinking Person's President :) |
Guilded Lilly |
Apr-15-10 10:01 PM |
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(read as sing-songy as possible) Huckabee's not gonna like this..... |
AlbertCat |
Apr-15-10 10:09 PM |
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Good. |
BlueIris |
Apr-15-10 10:10 PM |
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Outstanding. |
Juan_de_la_Dem |
Apr-15-10 10:27 PM |
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awesome! nt |
unpossibles |
Apr-15-10 11:00 PM |
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Thank you President Obama |
Tumbulu |
Apr-15-10 11:13 PM |
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Wow! And it's about time. |
Kind of Blue |
Apr-15-10 11:21 PM |
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KnR. We're getting there. |
Hekate |
Apr-15-10 11:46 PM |
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Just one step in the right direction. Next are MARRIAGE RIGHTS! n/t |
alp227 |
Apr-15-10 11:47 PM |
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K & R. Good for Pres Obama and good riddance |
chill_wind |
Apr-16-10 12:00 AM |
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Without marriage how do they prove they are partners? |
marshall |
Apr-16-10 12:45 AM |
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Yep |
Tx4obama |
Apr-16-10 01:44 AM |
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I do not know of any state that limits your choice of medical proxy or medical agent to |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 08:03 AM |
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In the case of the woman & partner which inspired Obama's memorandum |
Tx4obama |
Apr-16-10 01:54 PM |
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That should have been the case now |
marshall |
Apr-16-10 08:33 AM |
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K&R |
harry_pothead |
Apr-16-10 12:55 AM |
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He's dead? |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 07:25 AM |
#114 |
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Wishful thinking? |
keepCAblue |
Apr-16-10 04:04 PM |
#214 |
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No I was using poetic license |
harry_pothead |
Apr-16-10 07:21 PM |
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K&R |
awoke_in_2003 |
Apr-16-10 01:07 AM |
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Booyah. Should have always been the case. |
tburnsten |
Apr-16-10 01:07 AM |
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May depend upon what state we're talking about. Please see Reply 34. |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 07:39 AM |
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Well, as came up in the union thread earlier, |
tburnsten |
Apr-16-10 09:43 PM |
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Its rather common... Esp if the family doesn't approve... they can really |
glowing |
Apr-16-10 08:38 AM |
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Excellent news |
MarshalltheIrish |
Apr-16-10 01:15 AM |
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That is awesome! |
gtar100 |
Apr-16-10 01:32 AM |
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Apr-16-10 09:44 AM |
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k/r |
ccharles000 |
Apr-16-10 02:04 AM |
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This made my day! |
daughter of liberty2 |
Apr-16-10 02:32 AM |
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“It’s a huge deal” |
impik |
Apr-16-10 02:44 AM |
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Text of President Obama's memorandum/statement |
Tx4obama |
Apr-16-10 03:01 AM |
#83 |
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You must stil have legal, signed,advance directives |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-16-10 08:32 AM |
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Exactly. One has to read all the way to the bottom of the memo |
HillWilliam |
Apr-16-10 10:24 AM |
#157 |
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Wrong. Obama has ordered HHS to create the rule. |
Tx4obama |
Apr-16-10 02:59 PM |
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Let's take a count, shall we: |
HillWilliam |
Apr-16-10 03:37 PM |
#209 |
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No one ever said that the rule was in place as of now |
Tx4obama |
Apr-16-10 02:57 PM |
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This is wonderful news. |
lamp_shade |
Apr-16-10 04:44 AM |
#87 |
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At last! |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Apr-16-10 06:10 AM |
#95 |
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What took him so long? |
Betty Karlson |
Apr-16-10 06:21 AM |
#98 |
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Perhaps he needed enactment of the health care reform bill? |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 07:43 AM |
#119 |
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This will confuse and perplex the conservatives.... |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Apr-16-10 06:25 AM |
#100 |
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Great, another grand gesture that really does not mean shit. |
Raster |
Apr-16-10 06:52 AM |
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Please see Reply ##s 34 and 101. |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 07:52 AM |
#123 |
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From one of us "nice straight folks" out here... |
Iggo |
Apr-16-10 09:08 AM |
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A.F.T. |
CLANG |
Apr-16-10 06:55 AM |
#106 |
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Wonderful news! |
Mad_Dem_X |
Apr-16-10 07:07 AM |
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CHANGE we can believe in! |
NJmaverick |
Apr-16-10 07:38 AM |
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K&R |
Soylent Brice |
Apr-16-10 07:44 AM |
#120 |
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kick |
Blue_Tires |
Apr-16-10 07:45 AM |
#121 |
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Of course, the need for such special rules come from our lack of |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-16-10 07:52 AM |
#122 |
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Ken Cuccinelli |
mahatmakanejeeves |
Apr-16-10 07:56 AM |
#124 |
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Will a federal court even hear a challenge to the rule before the rule is actually made? |
No Elephants |
Apr-16-10 08:08 AM |
#127 |
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Should Have Happened A LOOOOOOOOOOOG time ago |
onpatrol98 |
Apr-16-10 07:57 AM |
#125 |
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Good Job Mr. President.... |
fascisthunter |
Apr-16-10 08:35 AM |
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ThatsMyBarack! |
ThatsMyBarack |
Apr-16-10 08:57 AM |
#137 |
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The upright straights will have to share their hospitals with teh h-h-h-homosexuals? |
krispos42 |
Apr-16-10 09:07 AM |
#138 |
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Great comment at CNN |
mahatmakanejeeves |
Apr-16-10 09:24 AM |
#141 |
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Wow! How true. GOBAMA! |
crazylikafox |
Apr-16-10 09:52 AM |
#147 |
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Out-goddamn-standing! |
Deep13 |
Apr-16-10 09:29 AM |
#142 |
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You People Realize This Is Meaningless, Right? |
Toasterlad |
Apr-16-10 09:35 AM |
#143 |
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And Another Thing...Gay Equality Is Not About Pissing Off Republicans |
Toasterlad |
Apr-16-10 09:40 AM |
#144 |
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I tend to agree with T-Lad |
sui generis |
Apr-16-10 11:10 AM |
#163 |
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That's hilarious...in a kinda tragic way. |
Mother Smuckers |
Apr-16-10 11:35 AM |
#167 |
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I agree. I get sick of the sporting event model of politics |
laughingliberal |
Apr-16-10 03:16 PM |
#206 |
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I really need to see the meat of this -- |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Apr-16-10 10:09 AM |
#150 |
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Someone Posted the Full Text Upthread |
Toasterlad |
Apr-16-10 10:12 AM |
#151 |
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OK, just read it -- |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Apr-16-10 11:43 AM |
#170 |
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It's because the memo ITSELF doesn't create new regulations, the memo orders |
NYC Liberal |
Apr-16-10 01:08 PM |
#183 |
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Um, sorry but that's total bullshit. |
NYC Liberal |
Apr-16-10 11:01 AM |
#162 |
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Well, if this snip from the text doesn't mean what it says, what DOES it mean? |
Mother Smuckers |
Apr-16-10 11:23 AM |
#164 |
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The more I read it, the more I am happy with it. |
NYC Liberal |
Apr-16-10 12:12 PM |
#172 |
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I Read It. Did YOU? |
Toasterlad |
Apr-16-10 11:25 AM |
#165 |
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Um yes. The MEMO ITSELF does not |
NYC Liberal |
Apr-16-10 12:13 PM |
#173 |
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Oh, Really? How? |
Toasterlad |
Apr-16-10 12:27 PM |
#174 |
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That's not at all what it says. |
NYC Liberal |
Apr-16-10 12:39 PM |
#176 |
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And How Do You Suppose It's Going To Do That? |
Toasterlad |
Apr-16-10 12:42 PM |
#177 |
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OK, what don't you get about this? |
NYC Liberal |
Apr-16-10 01:07 PM |
#182 |
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Well, I Guess We'll See, Won't We? |
Toasterlad |
Apr-16-10 02:11 PM |
#192 |
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HHS is already authorized by law to setup rules for HHS funding. |
ieoeja |
Apr-16-10 01:12 PM |
#184 |
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Kicked and recommended. |
Uncle Joe |
Apr-16-10 09:45 AM |
#146 |
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President Obama is a great man. |
BlancheSplanchnik |
Apr-16-10 09:58 AM |
#148 |
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I sure hope this doesn't end up being a setback, it basically neutralizes one of the more |
Mother Smuckers |
Apr-16-10 10:06 AM |
#149 |
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It Doesn't Neutralize Anything. It Doesn't Change Anything. |
Toasterlad |
Apr-16-10 10:13 AM |
#153 |
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You don't think the fundies will use it as ammunition against our quest for equality? |
Mother Smuckers |
Apr-16-10 10:19 AM |
#156 |
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Then Why Not Do Something That Actually MEANS Something? |
Toasterlad |
Apr-16-10 10:36 AM |
#160 |
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I absolutely agree with that, hence my somewhat cynical comment. |
Mother Smuckers |
Apr-16-10 10:43 AM |
#161 |
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It "neutralizes" NOTHING! |
TankLV |
Apr-16-10 03:06 PM |
#204 |
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You are so correct, Tank. It is meaningless. |
Raster |
Apr-17-10 03:12 PM |
#232 |
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Good, basic housekeeping measure |
DirkGently |
Apr-16-10 10:15 AM |
#154 |
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It's about damn time! |
AllyCat |
Apr-16-10 10:18 AM |
#155 |
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Daaaaammmmnnnn. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Apr-16-10 10:26 AM |
#158 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Apr-16-10 11:29 AM |
#166 |
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Thank you. God bless Obama. |
jeremyfive |
Apr-16-10 11:36 AM |
#168 |
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What if a hospital decides to ignore this suggestion? There's no legal remedy for that. |
Mother Smuckers |
Apr-16-10 11:40 AM |
#169 |
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You are missing the point |
Tx4obama |
Apr-17-10 04:10 PM |
#234 |
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He Didn't DO Anything. He Did What He Always Does: Talk. |
Toasterlad |
Apr-16-10 11:55 AM |
#171 |
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You are willfully misconstruing this. |
Ikonoklast |
Apr-16-10 02:10 PM |
#191 |
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Fine. I'll Concede Your Point and Wait Until the "Rules" Are Established. |
Toasterlad |
Apr-16-10 02:14 PM |
#193 |
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Just like in my business, a proposed 'rule' is just so much vaporware. |
Ikonoklast |
Apr-16-10 02:33 PM |
#196 |
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I Hope YOU'RE Right |
Toasterlad |
Apr-16-10 03:24 PM |
#207 |
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It's a start. |
Patriot 76 |
Apr-16-10 12:38 PM |
#175 |
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GLAAD Applauds Presidential Memorandum Adding Hospital Visitation Protections for Same-Sex Couples |
ProSense |
Apr-16-10 12:45 PM |
#178 |
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I Guess We Have Equality Now. |
Toasterlad |
Apr-16-10 12:51 PM |
#179 |
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I understand your frustration, but him making a point to even discuss this issue and make this |
Divine Discontent |
Apr-16-10 01:13 PM |
#185 |
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Congratulations, President Obama! Do the Right Thing and We'll get YOUR Back and |
patrice |
Apr-16-10 12:51 PM |
#180 |
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What hospital asks for a patient's sexual orientation? |
Tracer |
Apr-16-10 01:40 PM |
#186 |
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To the people on this thread who sadly think this is a token gesture |
Politicub |
Apr-16-10 01:50 PM |
#188 |
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You Don't Understand. |
Toasterlad |
Apr-16-10 02:19 PM |
#195 |
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This is great news. |
alarimer |
Apr-16-10 02:15 PM |
#194 |
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About fucking time - LONG overdue! |
TankLV |
Apr-16-10 02:42 PM |
#197 |
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great step forward, now let's get to legal/POA for partner |
katty |
Apr-16-10 03:33 PM |
#208 |
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Here's what I think this might actually mean. |
donco6 |
Apr-16-10 03:58 PM |
#213 |
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Thanks, I believe and most earnestly HOPE you're right about that. What do you think about |
Mother Smuckers |
Apr-16-10 04:41 PM |
#216 |
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It's about time! |
Kajsa |
Apr-16-10 06:19 PM |
#217 |
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Why, in the f-ing world, would anyone be against this? |
Socal31 |
Apr-17-10 01:56 AM |
#229 |
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Let me tell you a story, a true story: |
Raster |
Apr-17-10 03:10 PM |
#231 |
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Why would anyone think this is a bad thing? |
UndecidedGuy |
May-03-10 03:32 PM |
#235 |
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