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Tue Apr-13-10 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #91 |
| 104. I'd believe him if he said he didn't know it was illegal |
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because in his own country, and in most parts of the US, it wouldn't have been. Anyone sensible would check, of course, and it would seem risky to take a girl's word for it that she's 17 in this situation anyway. But to say "in order to break the law" implies he knew beforehand it was illegal, which I haven't actually seen in a report yet. Yes, what he did was illegal, but that doesn't mean people can't suggest that it should have been legal. 18 is a surprisingly high age for being able to consent to sex without parental permission. For instance, a 2004 poll said 43 percent of American 17 year olds had had sex. I suspect that's why this has generated a lot of comment here - because people don't expect California to be so puritanical. FWIW, when the age for buying drink comes up, many DUers will always say that 21 is ridiculously high. It's just that's not the subject of this thread. |
| -Gilroy police: Canadian military man rode 3,000 miles to have sex with teen girl |
alp227 |
Apr-12-10 05:29 PM |
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Seriously? |
XemaSab |
Apr-12-10 05:31 PM |
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Lucky for teenage girls living where there are statutory rape laws ... |
D-Lee |
Apr-12-10 05:44 PM |
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imo, 17 is ridiculously old for stat rape laws |
paulsby |
Apr-12-10 05:56 PM |
#4 |
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"Bitch set me up" n/t |
24601 |
Apr-12-10 10:36 PM |
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lol nt |
paulsby |
Apr-12-10 11:05 PM |
#42 |
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Canada's was recently raised to 16. |
JBoy |
Apr-13-10 09:18 AM |
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thank you |
paulsby |
Apr-13-10 12:24 PM |
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That's nuts - you could legally have sex with a 17yo, but go to jail for asking her |
BR_Parkway |
Apr-13-10 12:06 PM |
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not in california |
paulsby |
Apr-13-10 12:27 PM |
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The Older I Get, The More I Think That Any Man Who'd Ride 3k Miles To Get In My Pants |
NashVegas |
Apr-13-10 01:47 PM |
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I'm saying that it weakens the meaning of pedophilia |
XemaSab |
Apr-12-10 05:56 PM |
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I agree 17 year olds may make poor decision but know what they are doing. |
bamacrat |
Apr-12-10 06:57 PM |
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A line has to be drawn somewhere. |
liquid diamond |
Apr-12-10 09:22 PM |
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A 17 yr old is not a child. This sounds more like Dad or Mom freaking out |
EFerrari |
Apr-12-10 09:27 PM |
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By law she is a MINOR. Parents be damned. This asshole |
liquid diamond |
Apr-12-10 09:29 PM |
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This asshole? You know him personally? |
EFerrari |
Apr-12-10 09:30 PM |
#28 |
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Anybody who would drive 3,000 miles to |
liquid diamond |
Apr-12-10 09:34 PM |
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Anyone who would drive 3000 miles to see a girl sounds like a kid to me. |
EFerrari |
Apr-12-10 09:40 PM |
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"See" a girl? Way to downplays this guy's sick intentions. |
liquid diamond |
Apr-12-10 09:47 PM |
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Sex between young people is sick? Okay. |
EFerrari |
Apr-12-10 09:49 PM |
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No. Sex between an adult and a minor is. n/t |
liquid diamond |
Apr-12-10 09:54 PM |
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I see. |
EFerrari |
Apr-12-10 11:36 PM |
#45 |
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You have a dirty mind.. |
pipoman |
Apr-13-10 05:00 AM |
#56 |
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If finding sex between an adult and a minor to be sick makes |
liquid diamond |
Apr-13-10 09:42 PM |
#130 |
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Yea, if you characterize a |
pipoman |
Apr-13-10 10:02 PM |
#136 |
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I'm shocked it took this long for somebody to makes the |
liquid diamond |
Apr-13-10 10:12 PM |
#140 |
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If the shoe fits... |
pipoman |
Apr-13-10 10:27 PM |
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That's what I thought... |
liquid diamond |
Apr-13-10 10:30 PM |
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There is zero evidence that this young women was abused in any way. |
EFerrari |
Apr-13-10 10:47 PM |
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Letting laws decide your ethics is ridiculous. |
Threedifferentones |
Apr-13-10 09:09 AM |
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It is 2010. Why are you talking about Homer? |
liquid diamond |
Apr-13-10 09:46 PM |
#131 |
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"It is 2010. Why are you talking about Homer?" You could make up a lot of those |
EFerrari |
Apr-13-10 11:15 PM |
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My, my....how we've changed.... |
Lagomorph |
Apr-13-10 10:02 PM |
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24 and 17? |
CreekDog |
Apr-14-10 01:44 PM |
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I am amused and sickened at the same time |
Codeine |
Apr-13-10 04:45 AM |
#55 |
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I'm not talking about anywhere else in the civilized world. I live in the U.S.A. |
liquid diamond |
Apr-13-10 09:51 PM |
#132 |
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"Child abuser"? |
Codeine |
Apr-13-10 10:23 PM |
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I'm happy you are not a legislator. |
liquid diamond |
Apr-13-10 10:31 PM |
#144 |
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You have a strange definition of a "child abuser" or "sick intentions" |
tburnsten |
Apr-13-10 06:34 PM |
#117 |
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I don't approve of sex between an adult and a minor. |
liquid diamond |
Apr-13-10 09:54 PM |
#133 |
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So if the age of consent in California was brought in line with 78% |
tburnsten |
Apr-13-10 11:12 PM |
#148 |
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Right on brother |
tburnsten |
Apr-13-10 06:31 PM |
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Unless that person is ALSO a minor. n/t |
Ian David |
Apr-13-10 07:17 AM |
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So, it started when he was 20 and she was 13? |
No Elephants |
Apr-13-10 11:00 AM |
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You really should read the article |
pipoman |
Apr-13-10 01:23 PM |
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I was taking college classes at 17 |
Mojorabbit |
Apr-13-10 03:59 AM |
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I was doing half day at high school, and a half day at college |
snooper2 |
Apr-13-10 10:14 AM |
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13 and 20 sounds a lot worse, doesn't it? |
No Elephants |
Apr-13-10 11:03 AM |
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How about when you were 13? |
No Elephants |
Apr-13-10 11:11 AM |
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You are right but 17 is too old. |
bamacrat |
Apr-13-10 08:55 AM |
#72 |
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Send your recommendations to your congressman or congresswoman. |
liquid diamond |
Apr-13-10 09:57 PM |
#134 |
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Eh, I'd rather get pot legalized. |
bamacrat |
Apr-14-10 12:19 AM |
#152 |
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Stop pretending law and ethics are the same |
Threedifferentones |
Apr-14-10 04:37 PM |
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According to Reply 74, it's now 16, not 14. |
No Elephants |
Apr-13-10 10:59 AM |
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So pedophilia is OK if a kid is older than 11, "almost" an adult? |
damntexdem |
Apr-12-10 05:46 PM |
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Wait, what? |
XemaSab |
Apr-12-10 05:59 PM |
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Gilroy is known for its garlic festival. |
eagertolearn |
Apr-12-10 06:31 PM |
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I must admit, this is one post I did not expect to see in this thread. |
rug |
Apr-12-10 10:25 PM |
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But if an 18 year-old has sex with a 17 year-old, is he a pedophile? |
villager |
Apr-12-10 06:03 PM |
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It sounds like something a kid would do, doesn't it? |
EFerrari |
Apr-12-10 08:14 PM |
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Pedophilia is the attraction to pre-pubescent children. |
foxfeet |
Apr-12-10 07:09 PM |
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Apparently, he was first attracted to her when she was 13 and he was 20. |
No Elephants |
Apr-13-10 11:02 AM |
#81 |
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Still not pedophilia. |
foxfeet |
Apr-13-10 06:18 PM |
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He's only 24. HIs brain isn't even finished developing yet. |
EFerrari |
Apr-12-10 08:08 PM |
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Neither has her mind developed fully, which is the whole point of statutory rape laws. |
No Elephants |
Apr-13-10 11:09 AM |
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You are embroidering. How do you know "he's been waiting" ? |
EFerrari |
Apr-13-10 10:51 PM |
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My Grandfather Married at 22 |
NashVegas |
Apr-15-10 11:08 AM |
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Finally. A voice of reason in this twisted thread. |
liquid diamond |
Apr-13-10 09:58 PM |
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Both of you need to look up the word to see what it means. n/t |
EFerrari |
Apr-13-10 10:42 PM |
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The contact started when she was 13, and he was 20. |
boppers |
Apr-12-10 06:10 PM |
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but there was no sexual contact then? So whats the point of your post? |
provis99 |
Apr-13-10 01:24 AM |
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If you don't think it's creepy for a 20 to be grooming a 13, I don't know what to say. |
boppers |
Apr-13-10 05:04 AM |
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Never been on Facebook huh? |
pipoman |
Apr-13-10 05:15 AM |
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My god-daughters are on facebook. |
boppers |
Apr-13-10 05:21 AM |
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Ok grandma/pa |
pipoman |
Apr-13-10 05:31 AM |
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Congrats on your ignorance. |
boppers |
Apr-13-10 05:57 AM |
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Kids have always been stupid..er..done stupid things |
pipoman |
Apr-13-10 06:19 AM |
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How about the online culture of 13 year olds and 20 year olds. |
No Elephants |
Apr-13-10 11:14 AM |
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Notice there was no real contact or relationship at that point? |
pipoman |
Apr-13-10 01:11 PM |
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Is it just me or are people much more uptight than they were twenty years ago? |
EFerrari |
Apr-13-10 01:15 PM |
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I think they are more uptight than they have been |
pipoman |
Apr-13-10 01:19 PM |
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And maybe he wasn't at the time. You know that 13 year old girls |
EFerrari |
Apr-13-10 01:13 PM |
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My little sister couldn't stop laughing at me when she found out |
tburnsten |
Apr-13-10 06:46 PM |
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I didn't realize you were supervising and recording all of their contact |
tburnsten |
Apr-13-10 06:43 PM |
#118 |
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No physical contact, or so they say. "The heart wants what it wants" Woody Allen. |
No Elephants |
Apr-13-10 11:05 AM |
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You said "physical", not me, the article if you chose to read it |
pipoman |
Apr-13-10 01:28 PM |
#106 |
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Isn't that the plot to "Daddy Longlegs"? |
EFerrari |
Apr-13-10 01:34 PM |
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I agree with you here. Besides, a relationship that lasts that long |
icee |
Apr-12-10 08:04 PM |
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Damn that 13 year old, egging on a 20 year old for four years, until he could not help |
No Elephants |
Apr-13-10 11:17 AM |
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There is NOTHING suggesting that they have been doing this for four years. |
Xithras |
Apr-13-10 01:33 PM |
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I think you're going overboard in foul interpretation of that which |
icee |
Apr-13-10 03:15 PM |
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Where does it say they were in a relationship for the last four years? |
tburnsten |
Apr-13-10 06:54 PM |
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That "is" a relationship. |
icee |
Apr-13-10 11:34 PM |
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I am not in a relationship with 257 people |
tburnsten |
Apr-13-10 11:39 PM |
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Relationship is also "the way one feels about another", not simply |
icee |
Apr-14-10 08:20 AM |
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You're assuming quite a bit about me |
tburnsten |
Apr-14-10 01:20 PM |
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You didn't explain how you see me being in a relationship with |
tburnsten |
Apr-14-10 06:08 PM |
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They lost contact |
muriel_volestrangler |
Apr-14-10 04:14 AM |
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My initial post said simply "relationship". Subsequent posts |
icee |
Apr-14-10 08:08 AM |
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It's nice to know someone else on this board can read |
tburnsten |
Apr-14-10 01:24 PM |
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When I was 17, my boyfriend was 24. |
EFerrari |
Apr-12-10 08:06 PM |
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When I was 17 |
creeksneakers2 |
Apr-12-10 09:14 PM |
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When I was 17, there were a lot of guys coming back from Viet Nam |
EFerrari |
Apr-12-10 09:26 PM |
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What's his name, address & local police department? n/t |
24601 |
Apr-12-10 10:38 PM |
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DU authoritarians untie! |
EFerrari |
Apr-12-10 11:38 PM |
#46 |
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"untie", that's brilliant! |
tburnsten |
Apr-13-10 06:57 PM |
#121 |
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It's a revision of an old joke, "Dyslexics untie!" for "unite". n/t |
EFerrari |
Apr-13-10 08:49 PM |
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When you were 13, was your boyfriend 20? |
No Elephants |
Apr-13-10 11:18 AM |
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Somewhere he was. |
EFerrari |
Apr-13-10 12:57 PM |
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owned |
tburnsten |
Apr-13-10 06:59 PM |
#122 |
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Photo of Mr. DeBruyn |
WillParkinson |
Apr-12-10 06:01 PM |
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He looks like a Senators fan |
Doctor_J |
Apr-13-10 09:42 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-12-10 06:11 PM |
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So? |
droidamus2 |
Apr-12-10 08:30 PM |
#18 |
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Well said. |
DeSwiss |
Apr-12-10 08:56 PM |
#19 |
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Comparing murder and sex with minors is kind of a stretch |
liquid diamond |
Apr-12-10 09:28 PM |
#24 |
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Less of a stretch than calling a 17 year old a child. |
EFerrari |
Apr-12-10 09:29 PM |
#27 |
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17 is a minor. Under 18 is a minor. |
liquid diamond |
Apr-12-10 09:33 PM |
#29 |
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So, what does that mean to you? |
EFerrari |
Apr-12-10 09:38 PM |
#31 |
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I've said it several times. It means a line has been clearly drawn. |
liquid diamond |
Apr-12-10 09:53 PM |
#35 |
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Okay. |
EFerrari |
Apr-12-10 11:36 PM |
#44 |
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Yet the laws which were written were picked and chosen |
The2ndWheel |
Apr-13-10 05:22 AM |
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well, no. In some states, age of consent is 16. |
provis99 |
Apr-13-10 01:23 AM |
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However, it would have been legal for them to marry with the parents' consent |
muriel_volestrangler |
Apr-13-10 04:37 AM |
#54 |
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The line is clear. No sex with a 17 year old unless married to him or her. |
No Elephants |
Apr-13-10 11:26 AM |
#91 |
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I'd believe him if he said he didn't know it was illegal |
muriel_volestrangler |
Apr-13-10 01:20 PM |
#104 |
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Gilroy is not a bastion of liberalism. n/t |
EFerrari |
Apr-13-10 01:35 PM |
#109 |
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Thank you no elephants. |
liquid diamond |
Apr-13-10 10:03 PM |
#138 |
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Wrong comparison |
droidamus2 |
Apr-13-10 12:53 AM |
#49 |
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Are you assuming something is wrong with setting different minimum ages for |
No Elephants |
Apr-13-10 11:42 AM |
#92 |
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You still haven't read the article have you? |
tburnsten |
Apr-13-10 07:16 PM |
#123 |
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No |
droidamus2 |
Apr-13-10 08:26 PM |
#127 |
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"Comparing murder and sex with minors is kind of a stretch" WTF? |
boppers |
Apr-13-10 05:41 AM |
#63 |
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Sure thing bub, consentual sex between a young adult and a 17 year old |
tburnsten |
Apr-13-10 07:19 PM |
#124 |
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What are you talking about? |
liquid diamond |
Apr-13-10 10:07 PM |
#139 |
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Some stats: |
boppers |
Apr-14-10 02:19 AM |
#153 |
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If you don't see a major difference between a nine year old and a 17 year old |
tburnsten |
Apr-14-10 01:33 PM |
#162 |
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Reading is fun! |
boppers |
Apr-14-10 11:27 PM |
#168 |
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I went by the median figure YOU posted |
tburnsten |
Apr-15-10 08:49 PM |
#171 |
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No kidding. n/t |
EFerrari |
Apr-12-10 09:28 PM |
#25 |
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Um, what about a 24 year old who breaks the law? |
No Elephants |
Apr-13-10 11:20 AM |
#89 |
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You didn't bother to read the article did you? |
tburnsten |
Apr-13-10 07:20 PM |
#125 |
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In most US states, this would have been perfectly legal. |
Xithras |
Apr-13-10 01:45 PM |
#110 |
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Canadian Armed Forces? |
onager |
Apr-12-10 10:00 PM |
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And maple syrup grenades. |
proteus_lives |
Apr-12-10 11:31 PM |
#43 |
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I guess Canada should spend as much as the US, huh? |
time_has_come |
Apr-13-10 12:14 AM |
#47 |
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Which is why the Canadians could never have defeated |
golfguru |
Apr-13-10 02:55 AM |
#52 |
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Oh, you'll do well here, |
Dogtown |
Apr-13-10 06:58 AM |
#67 |
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Don't like him picking on your darling |
tburnsten |
Apr-13-10 07:22 PM |
#126 |
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What are you going on about? |
Dogtown |
Apr-14-10 05:53 AM |
#156 |
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Yeah, Canadians were NEVER there for any battle, eh? |
Darth_Kitten |
Apr-14-10 10:05 AM |
#159 |
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I never said that Canadians never helped...I was replying to |
golfguru |
Apr-14-10 11:23 PM |
#167 |
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I'm just being saucy. |
Darth_Kitten |
Apr-15-10 05:04 PM |
#170 |
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A simple $ and population comparison is as simplistic as what you CLAIM an |
No Elephants |
Apr-13-10 11:51 AM |
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The only issue here is the age of the beaver. |
No Elephants |
Apr-13-10 11:21 AM |
#90 |
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Damn |
guitar man |
Apr-12-10 10:40 PM |
#41 |
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If you were a 24 year old male, |
ronnie624 |
Apr-13-10 12:40 AM |
#48 |
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Yeah I guess I've forgotten |
guitar man |
Apr-13-10 08:04 AM |
#71 |
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The paper should be ashamed |
pipoman |
Apr-13-10 05:08 AM |
#58 |
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A true story |
pipoman |
Apr-13-10 05:44 AM |
#64 |
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I think the age of consent should be whatever age you need to be to have a driver's license. n/t |
Ian David |
Apr-13-10 07:13 AM |
#68 |
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That's really up to the state legislators and the people who elect them. |
No Elephants |
Apr-13-10 11:47 AM |
#93 |
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What a fucking moron... |
Ian David |
Apr-13-10 07:16 AM |
#69 |
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Please have a seat. |
slackmaster |
Apr-13-10 09:34 AM |
#75 |
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As he's neither a priest nor a teacher... |
LanternWaste |
Apr-13-10 10:51 AM |
#78 |
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The headline may be bullshit for all we know. Yeah, it sounds overblown to me. |
EFerrari |
Apr-13-10 01:07 PM |
#99 |
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Strange responses in this thread - apparently it's akin to pedophilia |
BR_Parkway |
Apr-13-10 02:24 PM |
#112 |
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A simple fact: sometimes the law is wrong. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Apr-13-10 06:28 PM |
#115 |
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We are so hung up on this 'sex' thing in this country... |
hayu_lol |
Apr-13-10 09:39 PM |
#129 |
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I'd suggest 16. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Apr-14-10 05:30 AM |
#155 |
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that makes sense. we are all for the right to have an abortion at any age (mostly) but a 24 yr old |
Divine Discontent |
Apr-14-10 01:48 PM |
#164 |
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