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of hundreds of people every year, and ruins many more lives than that by a factor of thousands, but I don't blame the people that work in the breweries. I guess you do?
It all comes down to personal responsibilty. We (the US Military) have Rules of Engagement laid out to make sure we minimize civilian casualties. Was the ROE followed in the incident in this video? I can't say for certain yet as I can't view it behind this firewall, but if it was violated the perpetrators of the violating could be tried for a number of things up to and including murder. To me there shouldn't have been a reason to cover it up if those involved didn't do anything to violate the ROE.
To suggest that I (being a member of the armed forces) am responsible for the actions of someone hundreds of miles away that I had no knowlege of or control over because I happen to be in the same organization as them is personally offensive to me.
I do sincerely hope the exposure by wikileaks though forces everyone involved in the incident and the coverup to answer for their actions.
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| -Wikileaks video showing cover-up of murder of civilians and journalists through US forces in Iraq |
sabra |
Apr-05-10 11:00 AM |
#0 |
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to greatest |
mikelgb |
Apr-05-10 11:20 AM |
#1 |
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IN A RELATED STORY fox news reports that all talking heads are safe, fair-skinned, and off-balanced |
happygoluckytoyou |
Apr-06-10 05:49 AM |
#228 |
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For now |
Doctor_J |
Apr-06-10 12:00 PM |
#267 |
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I hope those soldiers rot in hell. "Bushmaster"??? WOW nt |
live love laugh |
Apr-06-10 08:16 AM |
#237 |
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I'm guessing that the "Bushmaster" ID was for the Bradley that was in the area... |
MellonCollie |
Apr-06-10 09:19 AM |
#243 |
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When will the politicians stop killing? n/t |
zalinda |
Apr-05-10 11:26 AM |
#2 |
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When enough of us find out what they are doing in our name, to act. |
pundaint |
Apr-05-10 02:23 PM |
#57 |
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When they stop getting rich from it and getting off from it. nt |
valerief |
Apr-05-10 05:20 PM |
#130 |
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The politicians will never stop killing. That's what they do. |
cbdo2007 |
Apr-05-10 11:59 PM |
#216 |
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When we put an end to patriarchy and its violence . . . . and that includes |
defendandprotect |
Apr-06-10 07:29 PM |
#280 |
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K&R. Again, as in the GD link, I recommend |
Robb |
Apr-05-10 11:29 AM |
#3 |
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I can't bear to watch |
spinbaby |
Apr-05-10 11:42 AM |
#6 |
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I tried but its telling me to log out of myh google?! |
HillbillyBob |
Apr-05-10 02:25 PM |
#58 |
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you were spot on except your calculation did not take into account 9/11 |
jimlup |
Apr-05-10 03:25 PM |
#91 |
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9/11 was part and parcel of the Bush planning for war: America's Reichstag Fire |
Liberation Angel |
Apr-05-10 04:13 PM |
#114 |
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That's what I think as well. |
FiveGoodMen |
Apr-06-10 02:58 PM |
#276 |
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+1000% -- MIHOP |
defendandprotect |
Apr-06-10 07:31 PM |
#281 |
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I can't watch it either. |
myrna minx |
Apr-05-10 02:33 PM |
#62 |
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I watched the long version. It's in black and white and there are subtitles. |
EFerrari |
Apr-05-10 02:43 PM |
#67 |
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. |
myrna minx |
Apr-05-10 03:13 PM |
#85 |
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Me neither. I can't bear it. |
tblue |
Apr-05-10 03:04 PM |
#76 |
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That was exactly how I watched it. So freakin sad. n/t |
axollot |
Apr-05-10 08:06 PM |
#174 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Apr-05-10 11:32 AM |
#4 |
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That guy ducking behind building... was that an RPG? I am not defending the itchy trigger fingers |
zonkers |
Apr-05-10 11:40 AM |
#5 |
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I don't know, I've just watched it once so far and can't stomach another go-throguh yet. However: |
Poll_Blind |
Apr-05-10 11:54 AM |
#9 |
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It's a camera with a long lens, but it's not clear unless you look closely |
jberryhill |
Apr-05-10 12:28 PM |
#18 |
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Given the muzzle velocity of a 20mm |
snort |
Apr-05-10 12:54 PM |
#22 |
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Thanks to you and JBHill for explanations. |
zonkers |
Apr-05-10 12:58 PM |
#25 |
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30 mm chain gun, but you've got the idea. |
ArcticFox |
Apr-05-10 03:39 PM |
#99 |
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it looked to me like the guy was out in front and he simply looked down the alley... |
mike_c |
Apr-05-10 12:58 PM |
#24 |
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To my understanding there were reports of gunfire |
skyounkin |
Apr-05-10 03:32 PM |
#95 |
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Is "to my understanding" newspeak for "I just pulled this out of my arse"? |
liberation |
Apr-05-10 08:42 PM |
#189 |
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Yes. Also known as rationalization. |
readmoreoften |
Apr-05-10 09:07 PM |
#196 |
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War is the pornography of violence. |
Speciesamused |
Apr-05-10 11:48 AM |
#7 |
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You see clearly, friend. |
ronnie624 |
Apr-06-10 07:48 AM |
#234 |
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Yes . . . unbelievable that killing someone is now "disengaging" them . . . so video game like!! |
defendandprotect |
Apr-06-10 11:06 AM |
#251 |
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Jesus fucking christ. I just watched this and I am speechless |
no limit |
Apr-05-10 11:52 AM |
#8 |
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Same reaction here. |
MinneapolisMatt |
Apr-05-10 11:54 AM |
#10 |
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Sorry, i'm not stunned |
German |
Apr-05-10 01:28 PM |
#34 |
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exactly |
Amaya |
Apr-05-10 04:59 PM |
#126 |
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We have to stop this MIC....which also now controls our media -- |
defendandprotect |
Apr-06-10 11:07 AM |
#252 |
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Same here. Speechless. Begging to fire on the van, BTW, when the two children are in... |
Poll_Blind |
Apr-05-10 11:56 AM |
#11 |
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I saw no weapons associated with the van. |
angrycarpenter |
Apr-05-10 12:13 PM |
#15 |
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Neither did I. The pilots LIED when they said they say people from the... |
Poll_Blind |
Apr-05-10 12:22 PM |
#16 |
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+ 1 |
heliarc |
Apr-05-10 01:01 PM |
#28 |
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And *that* is how new terrorists are created. Violence begets violence. |
Roland99 |
Apr-06-10 07:59 AM |
#235 |
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And these soldiers will be coming home . . .. |
defendandprotect |
Apr-06-10 07:37 PM |
#282 |
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I saw no weapons at all, period. None of the men had anything that looked like |
mistertrickster |
Apr-05-10 07:26 PM |
#160 |
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One did look to be carrying something long and black |
bhikkhu |
Apr-05-10 08:27 PM |
#182 |
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Bottom line is they killed innocent people -- in three attacks . . . |
defendandprotect |
Apr-06-10 11:22 AM |
#256 |
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Yeah, I saw that too. But I also saw no forestock. Also it was too long and thin to be a rifle. |
mistertrickster |
Apr-06-10 12:30 PM |
#271 |
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I am bothered by events in thie video |
pasto76 |
Apr-05-10 01:45 PM |
#39 |
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Thanks for your expert assessment of the video. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-05-10 02:35 PM |
#63 |
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It sounds like they have been in too long, SGT. |
EFerrari |
Apr-05-10 02:42 PM |
#66 |
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I am here right now |
shedevil69taz |
Apr-05-10 05:33 PM |
#134 |
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CNN has it now, they only show the video up until the point of the RPG/photo lens |
jakeXT |
Apr-05-10 06:45 PM |
#152 |
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oh ok |
shedevil69taz |
Apr-05-10 07:26 PM |
#161 |
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maybe pilots do not require Positive ID? |
pasto76 |
Apr-05-10 07:35 PM |
#165 |
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shedevil, |
Delphinus |
Apr-06-10 05:48 AM |
#227 |
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Exactly. And if they truly believed that the wounded man |
kas125 |
Apr-05-10 11:40 PM |
#214 |
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Any chance they are on drugs of some kind . . . speed? |
defendandprotect |
Apr-06-10 07:43 PM |
#283 |
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I feel ill. n/t |
FedUpWithIt All |
Apr-05-10 02:57 PM |
#69 |
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Absolutely disgusting |
ArcticFox |
Apr-05-10 03:44 PM |
#101 |
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I had my mouth open the whole time as I was watching it |
Clintonista2 |
Apr-05-10 03:51 PM |
#105 |
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so did i |
barbtries |
Apr-05-10 06:41 PM |
#148 |
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I've been sending this video around to all of my friends today |
Clintonista2 |
Apr-05-10 06:44 PM |
#151 |
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Same here |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-05-10 08:58 PM |
#193 |
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I guess people in Iraq, unlike those at Obama rallies, are not permitted to carry guns. Peace. nt |
thereismore |
Apr-05-10 04:19 PM |
#117 |
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why are you surprised? |
Amaya |
Apr-05-10 04:58 PM |
#124 |
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You should have been watching footage during the bush years.. |
butterfly77 |
Apr-05-10 07:41 PM |
#170 |
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fucking pig bastards.... |
mike_c |
Apr-05-10 11:59 AM |
#12 |
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Marking to watch later |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-05-10 11:59 AM |
#13 |
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Columbia Journalism Review: WikiLeaks Releases Video Showing Death of Reuters Staff |
Poll_Blind |
Apr-05-10 12:02 PM |
#14 |
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..and this was just once incident. How many more ...? |
lib2DaBone |
Apr-05-10 12:25 PM |
#17 |
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I feel sick. |
Dappleganger |
Apr-05-10 12:31 PM |
#19 |
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K&R |
Solly Mack |
Apr-05-10 12:36 PM |
#20 |
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Wikileak Tweet: Reuters 2008 statement on the failure of the US military to respond to FOIA request |
Hissyspit |
Apr-05-10 12:42 PM |
#21 |
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KR Passed On To All I Know |
we can do it |
Apr-05-10 12:57 PM |
#23 |
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K&R -- back later -- |
defendandprotect |
Apr-05-10 12:58 PM |
#26 |
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yes |
lumpy |
Apr-05-10 01:28 PM |
#33 |
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This might have to wait til tomorrow . . . |
defendandprotect |
Apr-05-10 09:31 PM |
#201 |
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Prosecute Bush et al.... |
xocet |
Apr-05-10 01:00 PM |
#27 |
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From what I see: |
howmad1 |
Apr-05-10 07:46 PM |
#172 |
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Republicon Pharisee Family Values |
SpiralHawk |
Apr-05-10 01:03 PM |
#29 |
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Worse than Pharisee, |
Enthusiast |
Apr-05-10 02:45 PM |
#68 |
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It's the foreign policy of both parties... |
DutchLiberal |
Apr-05-10 02:58 PM |
#70 |
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omg, I feel sick watching that |
McCamy Taylor |
Apr-05-10 01:14 PM |
#30 |
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I have been watching many WWII films/docs lately |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-05-10 01:17 PM |
#31 |
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It depends. |
proteus_lives |
Apr-05-10 02:10 PM |
#52 |
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As to Guerrilla Warfare, |
happyslug |
Apr-05-10 08:47 PM |
#191 |
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take it for what its worth |
dem mba |
Apr-05-10 08:44 PM |
#190 |
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seems to me this will be used for recruitment on par with Abu Ghraib photos /nt |
tomm2thumbs |
Apr-05-10 01:19 PM |
#32 |
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So why do we keep doing it? To support a crazed war industry and oil companies. BS. |
grahamhgreen |
Apr-05-10 01:46 PM |
#40 |
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I think Wikileaks did the right thing by prepping for the release |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-05-10 01:29 PM |
#35 |
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Bloodthirsty bastards. |
KansDem |
Apr-05-10 01:36 PM |
#36 |
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K&R |
Eyerish |
Apr-05-10 01:44 PM |
#37 |
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Stop supporting murder and counterproductive wars! |
grahamhgreen |
Apr-05-10 01:45 PM |
#38 |
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K & R - even though I haven't even tried to watch the video yet. |
Raksha |
Apr-05-10 01:46 PM |
#41 |
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I am horrified beyond words. They were almost gleeful and happy about doing |
secondwind |
Apr-05-10 01:47 PM |
#42 |
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"In the Spirit of Crazy horse"! NOT EXACTLY. |
puebloknot |
Apr-05-10 01:48 PM |
#43 |
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I read the comments, I have not looked at the film. |
Paper Roses |
Apr-05-10 01:49 PM |
#44 |
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Glenn Greenwald on MSNBC at 4pm EST to talk about the horrible new WikiLeaks video |
Hissyspit |
Apr-05-10 01:51 PM |
#45 |
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Thanks for that info. In case you haven't seen this, you might be |
Jefferson23 |
Apr-05-10 02:12 PM |
#53 |
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I suppose we should still support the troops?... |
truth2power |
Apr-05-10 01:55 PM |
#46 |
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Youtube comments are typically horrendous. |
progressoid |
Apr-05-10 01:57 PM |
#47 |
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Have you ever |
shedevil69taz |
Apr-05-10 05:36 PM |
#136 |
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My comments are always thoughful and intelligent! |
progressoid |
Apr-05-10 09:57 PM |
#207 |
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Thanks |
shedevil69taz |
Apr-05-10 10:28 PM |
#209 |
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A microcosm of the entire "war" in Iraq. |
Old and In the Way |
Apr-05-10 02:02 PM |
#48 |
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+1 |
Poll_Blind |
Apr-05-10 02:03 PM |
#49 |
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Amen.. |
disillusioned73 |
Apr-05-10 03:06 PM |
#82 |
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"I'm a war president!" |
Enthusiast |
Apr-05-10 03:20 PM |
#89 |
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Hate that my first reaction was... |
SnakeEyes |
Apr-05-10 02:04 PM |
#50 |
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A former neo-conservative... |
oldironside |
Apr-05-10 02:09 PM |
#51 |
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I entirely agree as well. Thanks for that link. n/t |
Poll_Blind |
Apr-05-10 02:58 PM |
#71 |
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Well, this is the one topic which we agree with the Libertarians. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Apr-05-10 03:03 PM |
#74 |
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Thanks for posting.... |
disillusioned73 |
Apr-05-10 03:04 PM |
#77 |
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Agree |
ArcticFox |
Apr-05-10 03:54 PM |
#107 |
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'Fraid so. And firing for dishonorable reasons |
Ghost Dog |
Apr-05-10 04:50 PM |
#122 |
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Never mind |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-05-10 06:24 PM |
#144 |
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Best read of the situation I've seen. Thanks for the post. |
KeepItReal |
Apr-05-10 08:11 PM |
#179 |
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K&R n/t |
Jefferson23 |
Apr-05-10 02:14 PM |
#54 |
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The link doesn't appear to be working anylonger. nt |
Javaman |
Apr-05-10 02:21 PM |
#55 |
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The site's got a lot of traffic |
Chulanowa |
Apr-05-10 02:27 PM |
#61 |
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Dear God |
florida08 |
Apr-05-10 02:22 PM |
#56 |
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That's what you are prepared for |
German |
Apr-05-10 11:08 PM |
#213 |
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I know.. |
florida08 |
Apr-06-10 10:44 AM |
#248 |
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George W. Bush and Dick Cheney still walk free. American war criminals, America's shame. |
pundaint |
Apr-05-10 02:25 PM |
#59 |
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This is the most heinous 17mins video |
Hutzpa |
Apr-05-10 02:26 PM |
#60 |
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Heartbreaking |
JohnnyHardhat |
Apr-05-10 02:40 PM |
#64 |
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I agree... |
oldironside |
Apr-05-10 03:11 PM |
#84 |
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This is horrendous. |
JDPriestly |
Apr-05-10 02:41 PM |
#65 |
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If fetuses were fighting this war, then the right to lifers would be there |
tavalon |
Apr-05-10 03:04 PM |
#78 |
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I feel sick |
Ruby the Liberal |
Apr-05-10 03:01 PM |
#72 |
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Not a single MSM page has this story |
dballance |
Apr-05-10 03:02 PM |
#73 |
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MSNBC is reporting on this right now - I expect we'll hear some more tonight and tomorrow |
sabra |
Apr-05-10 03:04 PM |
#75 |
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MSNBC will be covering it at 4 and Rachel has it on her blog. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Apr-05-10 03:04 PM |
#79 |
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You got it. |
Delphinus |
Apr-06-10 06:02 AM |
#230 |
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That's because it goes against the interest of the corporations which own them... |
DutchLiberal |
Apr-05-10 03:06 PM |
#80 |
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So, how do we get this to grow legs? |
tavalon |
Apr-05-10 03:06 PM |
#81 |
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This will be on every nightly news program in every major country in the world tonight. |
Poll_Blind |
Apr-05-10 03:10 PM |
#83 |
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And Then You'll Wake Up. |
jayfish |
Apr-05-10 03:18 PM |
#88 |
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Really? You really think this won't make that coverage? In the last HOUR this story has made the: |
Poll_Blind |
Apr-05-10 03:35 PM |
#98 |
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This Is One Of Those Situations Where I Would Relish... |
jayfish |
Apr-05-10 03:46 PM |
#102 |
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Where's the US coverage? This will go down the memory hole. n/t |
truth2power |
Apr-05-10 04:52 PM |
#123 |
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Front page in the major Spanish press, including the video at their web sites. |
Ghost Dog |
Apr-05-10 06:00 PM |
#139 |
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What's That I Heard? |
jayfish |
Apr-05-10 09:03 PM |
#195 |
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Plus, Al Jazeera English is Broadcast all over the world |
Turborama |
Apr-05-10 09:28 PM |
#200 |
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Poll_Blind |
Diclotican |
Apr-06-10 10:26 AM |
#247 |
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Still Waiting... |
jayfish |
Apr-07-10 07:30 AM |
#285 |
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Since the US isn't a major country any more, Big Media will black it out |
Doctor_J |
Apr-06-10 12:05 PM |
#269 |
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This video is sick and almost makes me want to cry |
taught_me_patience |
Apr-05-10 03:17 PM |
#86 |
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At the beginning, are they identifying the cameraman's cameras |
lob1 |
Apr-05-10 03:17 PM |
#87 |
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Yeah, that was my question too |
jimlup |
Apr-05-10 03:30 PM |
#94 |
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That appears to be what happened |
jberryhill |
Apr-05-10 03:33 PM |
#96 |
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Camera tripod? n/t |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-05-10 04:07 PM |
#110 |
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Interesting idea |
jberryhill |
Apr-05-10 05:32 PM |
#133 |
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The cameras are incorrectly IDed as weapons. |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-05-10 07:40 PM |
#169 |
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Sickening |
Laughing Mirror |
Apr-05-10 03:21 PM |
#90 |
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Absolutely awful. How can you/anyone see that they're cameras? n/t |
time_has_come |
Apr-06-10 07:30 AM |
#232 |
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That is the point. You can't see them. |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-06-10 11:52 AM |
#264 |
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BBC: WikiLeaks posts 'killing' video |
Turborama |
Apr-05-10 03:26 PM |
#92 |
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Wikileaks' Editor Julian Assange Discusses The "Collateral Murder" Video With Al Jazeera English |
Turborama |
Apr-05-10 03:29 PM |
#93 |
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Seems like they really, really want to see those weapons. |
Lars77 |
Apr-05-10 03:34 PM |
#97 |
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This is, no doubt, why we blow up entire wedding entourages in Afghanistan. |
Poll_Blind |
Apr-05-10 03:43 PM |
#100 |
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This is interesting.. |
Lars77 |
Apr-05-10 04:02 PM |
#108 |
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Wikileaks' Editor described it really well to The Guardian in their article about this |
Turborama |
Apr-05-10 04:08 PM |
#111 |
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Quite revealing |
RoccoR5955 |
Apr-05-10 03:49 PM |
#103 |
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I sincerely hope Reuters and the other news agency personnel who were deliberately targeted |
Dover |
Apr-05-10 03:50 PM |
#104 |
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We killed journalists |
lovuian |
Apr-05-10 03:51 PM |
#106 |
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And a lot of them. 30? 50? nt |
thereismore |
Apr-05-10 04:21 PM |
#118 |
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I don't remember which article I was reading, but earlier |
kas125 |
Apr-05-10 06:06 PM |
#141 |
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Holy shit. nt |
thereismore |
Apr-06-10 09:15 AM |
#242 |
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BBC are carrying it - news link |
dipsydoodle |
Apr-05-10 04:06 PM |
#109 |
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Torches & Pitchforks! |
green917 |
Apr-05-10 04:09 PM |
#112 |
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Compare with WaPo version in 2007 |
Snazzy |
Apr-05-10 04:09 PM |
#113 |
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I watched the MSNBC segment on this |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-05-10 04:15 PM |
#115 |
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You can't blame the people involved... |
MellonCollie |
Apr-05-10 04:35 PM |
#121 |
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If you "Support the troops" you can not be anti-war |
arcadian |
Apr-05-10 04:16 PM |
#116 |
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We all have to stop blindly |
pjt7 |
Apr-05-10 04:31 PM |
#120 |
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Sorry no |
shedevil69taz |
Apr-05-10 06:04 PM |
#140 |
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You are quite wrong in your comparison. |
arcadian |
Apr-05-10 06:19 PM |
#142 |
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Maybe I was |
shedevil69taz |
Apr-05-10 06:25 PM |
#145 |
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If I work in a factory that makes bombs. |
arcadian |
Apr-05-10 06:42 PM |
#149 |
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Alcohol contributes directly to the death |
shedevil69taz |
Apr-05-10 07:11 PM |
#157 |
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Nah... very poor analogy. |
Iowa |
Apr-06-10 02:23 AM |
#221 |
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thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard |
pasto76 |
Apr-06-10 11:26 AM |
# |
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Need to watch this later. |
closeupready |
Apr-05-10 04:30 PM |
#119 |
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MSNBC and Faux have this on their front page finally. No word from CNN though. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Apr-05-10 04:58 PM |
#125 |
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I know I'm going to be flamed to hell and back for this.. |
KDLarsen |
Apr-05-10 05:00 PM |
#127 |
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excuses excuses n/t |
subsuelo |
Apr-05-10 05:13 PM |
#129 |
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Once they mis-ID'd the camera as a weapon... |
jberryhill |
Apr-05-10 05:38 PM |
#137 |
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At that point, it appears the cameramen were doomed. The van shoudn't have had the same fate. |
KeepItReal |
Apr-05-10 08:32 PM |
#183 |
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They were CAMERAS not WEAPONS |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-05-10 06:29 PM |
#146 |
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Yeah, no shit |
jberryhill |
Apr-05-10 07:23 PM |
#159 |
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If this was another country |
joycean |
Apr-05-10 06:57 PM |
#153 |
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"I know I'm going to be flamed to hell and back for this.." .... and yet... |
liberation |
Apr-05-10 08:08 PM |
#177 |
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Reuters (the camermen's employer) says there were others with weapons |
KeepItReal |
Apr-05-10 08:19 PM |
#180 |
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So what? |
Progressive Cancer |
Apr-06-10 03:45 AM |
#223 |
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They killed a father by attacking an innocent civilian truck. |
chrisa |
Apr-05-10 09:01 PM |
#194 |
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RoE vs Geneva Conventions |
Progressive Cancer |
Apr-06-10 03:40 AM |
#222 |
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KandR |
Dystopian |
Apr-05-10 05:02 PM |
#128 |
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And they claim release of Abu Ghraib photos will make people hate us. It's the KILLING, stupid. |
No Elephants |
Apr-05-10 05:23 PM |
#131 |
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Yeah....so, where's it appearing on the effing corporate media here in the US? |
truth2power |
Apr-05-10 05:26 PM |
#132 |
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I cannot watch this. Bookmarking for some time I might, but this horrifies me |
AllyCat |
Apr-05-10 05:35 PM |
#135 |
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Anti-war protests at Obama appearances. Make him feel as uncomfortable as |
change_notfinetuning |
Apr-05-10 08:07 PM |
#176 |
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Right . . . we've been very kind to Democrats re anti-war demonstrations/4 years now!! |
defendandprotect |
Apr-06-10 11:10 AM |
#253 |
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Were there any weapons? |
naaman fletcher |
Apr-05-10 05:59 PM |
#138 |
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Possibly one RPG at 3:10 or so. |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-05-10 07:46 PM |
#171 |
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Assuming all that were true.. |
SnakeEyes |
Apr-05-10 08:38 PM |
#185 |
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I blame the chain of command from the very top down |
AzNick |
Apr-05-10 06:21 PM |
#143 |
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Without question one of the most gripping, mindnumbing |
cachukis |
Apr-05-10 06:31 PM |
#147 |
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Who or what. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Apr-05-10 07:35 PM |
#166 |
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We are the Death Star. n/t |
PassingFair |
Apr-06-10 11:39 AM |
#260 |
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The Pentagon has confirmed that this video is real. |
joycean |
Apr-05-10 06:42 PM |
#150 |
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Iraq is & was a Soverign Nation |
pjt7 |
Apr-05-10 07:00 PM |
#154 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Apr-05-10 07:08 PM |
#155 |
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Shoot first. Cover up later. Sadly, this is being done in our name, and if |
change_notfinetuning |
Apr-05-10 07:09 PM |
#156 |
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You have it half right. |
Pavulon |
Apr-05-10 07:17 PM |
#158 |
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You're right. I stand corrected. It's just that I expect even less from Congress. |
change_notfinetuning |
Apr-05-10 07:50 PM |
#173 |
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It will be interesting to see if the administration acknowledges this. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Apr-05-10 07:38 PM |
#167 |
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I am sure they will be "deeply disappointed" or something like that |
liberation |
Apr-05-10 08:38 PM |
#186 |
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Guys, do you ever get so angry that you cry? |
choie |
Apr-06-10 10:55 AM |
#250 |
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Exactly. There is no defense, and if it were Bush, everyone would be screaming, |
change_notfinetuning |
Apr-06-10 11:16 AM |
#255 |
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Evil cowards. |
Prometheus Bound |
Apr-05-10 07:30 PM |
#162 |
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That makes me sick. How can people do that-- murder so casually? |
Politicub |
Apr-05-10 07:31 PM |
#163 |
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Thanks for posting that...horrible as it was to watch. n/t |
bhikkhu |
Apr-05-10 07:34 PM |
#164 |
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that wasn't rules of engagement |
MichaelHarris |
Apr-05-10 07:38 PM |
#168 |
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Exactly. |
bhikkhu |
Apr-05-10 08:23 PM |
#181 |
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Sadly enough |
mangeydog democrat |
Apr-05-10 08:06 PM |
#175 |
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Welcome to DU, Mangey! |
PassingFair |
Apr-06-10 12:03 PM |
#268 |
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THIS is what our tax dollars are going to? |
ScottLand |
Apr-05-10 08:10 PM |
#178 |
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The men in washington who ordered and paid for this? Get that right folks |
Pavulon |
Apr-05-10 09:40 PM |
#203 |
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CTV coverage in Canada. |
polly7 |
Apr-05-10 08:34 PM |
#184 |
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The Pentagon says "U.S. troops acted appropriately". |
Prometheus Bound |
Apr-05-10 09:07 PM |
#197 |
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Pentagon now is in service of military corporations . . . that's all that counts . . . |
defendandprotect |
Apr-06-10 11:12 AM |
#254 |
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Kick for truth. |
New Dawn |
Apr-05-10 08:39 PM |
#187 |
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Sickening. n/t |
OhioChick |
Apr-05-10 08:40 PM |
#188 |
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Clear evidence of war crimes. |
chrisa |
Apr-05-10 08:56 PM |
#192 |
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Nope, just bad foreign policy |
Pavulon |
Apr-05-10 09:45 PM |
#205 |
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It is a stain of shame |
newspeak |
Apr-05-10 09:12 PM |
#198 |
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I don't know... |
SnakeEyes |
Apr-05-10 09:27 PM |
#199 |
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Way more to this story |
Brooklyns_Finest |
Apr-05-10 09:32 PM |
#202 |
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More than likely it was not |
newspeak |
Apr-05-10 09:57 PM |
#206 |
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The same General who got it wrong about Tillman got it wrong about who killed the women here too. |
pundaint |
Apr-05-10 09:41 PM |
#204 |
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Just once... |
Gumbyman2 |
Apr-05-10 10:15 PM |
#208 |
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That is exactly what struck me as I was watching the video. |
johnroshan |
Apr-06-10 12:20 AM |
#217 |
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it seems, the standard procedure is the coverup |
German |
Apr-05-10 10:38 PM |
#210 |
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Here's the vid |
ericinne |
Apr-05-10 10:49 PM |
#211 |
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This isn't going to be very popular, but... |
beckstcw |
Apr-05-10 10:54 PM |
#212 |
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Hard to imagine if that bloody BS happened in the U.S... |
Amonester |
Apr-05-10 11:41 PM |
#215 |
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No doubt? |
Progressive Cancer |
Apr-06-10 04:42 AM |
#224 |
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I wonder where the pilot's bloodthirsty chatter fits in your defense? |
Vinnie From Indy |
Apr-06-10 08:28 AM |
#239 |
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Pentagon has convinced these young men, it's all a video game . . .!!! |
defendandprotect |
Apr-06-10 11:29 AM |
#258 |
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Even if everything you say is true, I'm just curious if you think our 7 - 8 years |
change_notfinetuning |
Apr-06-10 08:53 AM |
#240 |
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"creating a lot more enemies, while making the United States and the world less safe" |
Ghost Dog |
Apr-06-10 12:27 PM |
#270 |
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+1000% -- absolutely! |
defendandprotect |
Apr-06-10 06:13 PM |
#278 |
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Amy Goodman video with Assange and Greenwald makes clear not true . . |
defendandprotect |
Apr-06-10 11:26 AM |
#257 |
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Like people want to know what's true. C'mon! And, believe it or not, I am an |
change_notfinetuning |
Apr-06-10 12:42 PM |
#273 |
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Agree . . . however, DU should have the truth, whether they want it or not .... |
defendandprotect |
Apr-06-10 06:26 PM |
#279 |
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That's supposed to be an RPG? |
ShannonBC |
Apr-06-10 02:02 PM |
#274 |
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Chopper out of range of an RPG |
ShannonBC |
Apr-06-10 02:07 PM |
#275 |
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...makes you wonder what the view from a drone camera is like |
bhikkhu |
Apr-06-10 01:07 AM |
#218 |
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... And such material, video and audio, will all be stored in some Pentagon database |
Ghost Dog |
Apr-06-10 12:31 PM |
#272 |
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Leaked U.S. video shows deaths of Reuters' Iraqi staffers |
KeepItReal |
Apr-06-10 01:11 AM |
#219 |
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Wikileaks Update: US mil investigation doc is 'junk;' people avoiding talking of attack on van |
Hissyspit |
Apr-06-10 01:16 AM |
#220 |
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"strawmanning camera/rpg confusion as the issue" |
MellonCollie |
Apr-06-10 04:44 AM |
#225 |
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The best of the best: Defending our Freedom (tm) |
panzerfaust |
Apr-06-10 04:56 AM |
#226 |
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Maybe worth appending here what Sen. Ron Paul & followers |
Ghost Dog |
Apr-06-10 05:58 AM |
#229 |
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K & R nt |
Christa |
Apr-06-10 06:11 AM |
#231 |
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It's Not Enough |
yellowwood |
Apr-06-10 07:45 AM |
#233 |
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"We all must unite to keep another stupid war like this from occurring" |
FiveGoodMen |
Apr-06-10 03:03 PM |
#277 |
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this is being shown on every main news broadcast in Australia and |
Swagman |
Apr-06-10 08:15 AM |
#236 |
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Sigh. nt |
amyrose2712 |
Apr-06-10 08:18 AM |
#238 |
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That was fucking murder |
hellsbeagle |
Apr-06-10 09:04 AM |
#241 |
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I bet that happens on a daily bases... |
and-justice-for-all |
Apr-06-10 09:30 AM |
#244 |
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My heart could not bear to watch it. I am glad you all are and hope you can do something about it. |
earcandle |
Apr-06-10 09:46 AM |
#245 |
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The drone warfare currently being conducted is no different than this. |
avaistheone1 |
Apr-06-10 09:55 AM |
#246 |
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So sad. |
FourScore |
Apr-06-10 10:53 AM |
#249 |
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If this were in the US itself |
brettjv |
Apr-06-10 11:36 AM |
#259 |
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At 3:43 in the video it looks like those men are carrying weapons. |
citizen snips |
Apr-06-10 11:41 AM |
#261 |
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The Weekly Standard?????? |
jayfish |
Apr-06-10 11:46 AM |
#262 |
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the video is still the same as the one youtube. |
citizen snips |
Apr-06-10 11:49 AM |
#263 |
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So You Don't Endorse The WS Snowjob That Accompanies The Video? |
jayfish |
Apr-06-10 11:54 AM |
#265 |
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I am not giving money to the weekly standard |
citizen snips |
Apr-06-10 11:56 AM |
#266 |
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Baloney . . . and the soldier/murderers are BEGGING for the wounded man crawling ...... |
defendandprotect |
Apr-06-10 07:46 PM |
#284 |
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"Carrying a weapon" is not a crime punishable by death, even in Iraq |
jman0 |
Apr-07-10 09:08 AM |
#286 |