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Fri Apr-02-10 10:26 PM
Response to Reply #49 |
| 59. As a Realtor (specifically a buyer's agent)... |
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I pointed out the problems with Masonite especially when it came to resale homes.
It is no more than termite food in my opinion, but oddly enough in the MLS they call it hardboard. Yeah, right!
Most homeowners do not maintain it correctly and around most nail holes you can see the blistering where the water has infiltrated.
Oh and yes, I have seen those homes with the rotting wood around the windows and the homes were only 5 years old or so. I don't know what in the hell they use on the outside railings either to cause it to rot within 5 years. Small screwdrivers come in handy sometimes....
I can say with a clear conscience that none of the people I represented purchased crap like that and I taught them how to recognize poor quality and hope they will pass it on.
I never managed to get many listings...sellers mostly wanted my help in hiding problems even over the smallest of issues. There are just some things you must do to sell a home...as they will come up on the inspection report.
Oh well, what can you do....my ethics are more important than a friggin commission.
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| -Feds: Homes with Chinese drywall must be gutted |
supernova |
Apr-02-10 03:33 PM |
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"We want families to tear it all out and rebuild...." |
DJ13 |
Apr-02-10 03:39 PM |
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Where is China's responsibility in this? They send hazardous products |
cutlassmama |
Apr-02-10 03:41 PM |
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That's what I'd like to know |
supernova |
Apr-02-10 03:45 PM |
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exactly what i was going to say. |
DesertFlower |
Apr-02-10 08:04 PM |
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Under normal circumstances I completely agree with you but |
Old Time Pagan |
Apr-02-10 10:44 PM |
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Isn't drywall from China basically compressed coal ash! |
Lost4words |
Apr-03-10 03:21 PM |
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These days EVERYONE makes drywall from fly ash |
jmowreader |
Apr-03-10 05:48 PM |
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You're forgetting when this happened |
Old Time Pagan |
Apr-03-10 09:13 PM |
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Theres a protocol to follow in this kind of situation |
DJ13 |
Apr-02-10 03:54 PM |
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Problem is, in Florida half those builders are either in bankruptcy |
flvegan |
Apr-02-10 04:32 PM |
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At that point suing the wholesaler is the only option |
DJ13 |
Apr-02-10 05:03 PM |
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Would banning anything toxic from China be a "non-tariff trade barrier" |
blue97keet |
Apr-02-10 03:56 PM |
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We banned imports from a Chinese company, Norinco, in the mid nineties |
tburnsten |
Apr-03-10 06:10 PM |
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That was the late 80's |
michreject |
Apr-04-10 09:02 AM |
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My bad on the date |
tburnsten |
Apr-04-10 09:35 AM |
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On second glance, I'm not sure I was wrong |
tburnsten |
Apr-04-10 10:55 PM |
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Interesting. |
michreject |
Apr-05-10 09:03 AM |
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The restrictions signed by Bush 41 was the 922(r) import ban |
tburnsten |
Apr-05-10 12:24 PM |
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No kidding! |
zonkers |
Apr-02-10 05:38 PM |
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Remember all that propaganda about tort reform? |
JDPriestly |
Apr-02-10 08:45 PM |
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Right. Fist killing our pets, then the whole family. China is slowly killing us all way around. |
glinda |
Apr-02-10 11:40 PM |
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who was actually monitoring goods coming into the US? |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Apr-02-10 10:50 PM |
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The Buyer/Purchaser |
One_Life_To_Give |
Apr-05-10 12:46 PM |
#112 |
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It's free-market forces in action. |
Turbineguy |
Apr-03-10 10:10 AM |
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Why do American companies continue to outsource labor there? |
Threedifferentones |
Apr-03-10 12:22 PM |
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We owe them so much money that... |
snake in the grass |
Apr-03-10 01:50 PM |
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China's economy is based in part on supplying substandard and hazardous products |
marshall |
Apr-04-10 06:45 PM |
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China Is Merely Doing What Wall St. Asks |
NashVegas |
Apr-05-10 11:03 AM |
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I think what we ought to do with Congress is tear it all out and rebuild. |
salguine |
Apr-02-10 07:19 PM |
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great idea. nt |
DesertFlower |
Apr-02-10 08:05 PM |
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And fumigate. |
Golden Raisin |
Apr-02-10 08:31 PM |
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The builders, if they haven't already, will declare bankruptcy and escape their responsibility. |
TommyO |
Apr-02-10 07:34 PM |
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and who pays for all of this? |
CountAllVotes |
Apr-02-10 03:42 PM |
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Do you own a mirror? n/t |
Psephos |
Apr-02-10 07:39 PM |
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Thanks to DU, we didn't buy this cr@P when we renovated a few years ago. |
EFerrari |
Apr-02-10 03:58 PM |
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HUGE amount of stress having that work done to begin with. But then to do it twice? |
KittyWampus |
Apr-02-10 04:01 PM |
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Your sig line is strangely relevant to this topic, |
Bette Noir |
Apr-02-10 04:07 PM |
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ah, the signature refers to Universal Principals. Want something built to last, do it right the |
KittyWampus |
Apr-02-10 05:38 PM |
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Seriously. That would be horrible. |
EFerrari |
Apr-02-10 09:21 PM |
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Fuckers |
Richardo |
Apr-02-10 04:13 PM |
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Agree 100% n/t |
OhioChick |
Apr-02-10 04:37 PM |
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This is a product of capitalism. Sell the people anything cheap for high profits |
Xenotime |
Apr-02-10 04:48 PM |
#13 |
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And yet we'll see right-wing talking points about products from "Communist China," |
Ron Green |
Apr-02-10 05:51 PM |
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Yep, and blaming China is ignoring the root problem |
havocmom |
Apr-02-10 05:55 PM |
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Why didn't retail buyers purchase US-made drywall? |
Psephos |
Apr-02-10 07:42 PM |
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1) Because most of them were trade, not retail, buyers. nt |
TheMadMonk |
Apr-02-10 08:30 PM |
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The Wikipedia article on this is worth reading. |
Psephos |
Apr-02-10 08:44 PM |
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Simple: It was not there. |
jmowreader |
Apr-02-10 08:43 PM |
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thanks, good info n/t |
Psephos |
Apr-02-10 08:45 PM |
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Exactly; contaminated toys, corrosive drywall, whatever |
bhikkhu |
Apr-02-10 06:34 PM |
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Yes..... |
Taverner |
Apr-02-10 07:24 PM |
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many of the homes in florida |
DesertFlower |
Apr-02-10 08:07 PM |
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TARIFS TARIFS TARIFS, We could make drywall if we tried. |
pundaint |
Apr-02-10 04:49 PM |
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What do you mean, "could" make drywall? |
jmowreader |
Apr-02-10 09:07 PM |
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Link to class action lawsuit: |
eppur_se_muova |
Apr-02-10 05:24 PM |
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Has the source of the strontium sulfide ever been identified? |
eppur_se_muova |
Apr-02-10 05:36 PM |
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heard on local news wiring also has to be replaced....this is huge |
Gin |
Apr-02-10 05:54 PM |
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Does Chinese coal contain a lot of strontium? If so, there's your answer |
jmowreader |
Apr-02-10 09:20 PM |
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You need to write an article about this. |
Stephanie |
Apr-03-10 09:58 AM |
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That I don't know, but it seems likely. |
eppur_se_muova |
Apr-03-10 03:19 PM |
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Strontium is present in coal |
jmowreader |
Apr-04-10 05:06 PM |
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I haven't had any luck finding that info ... Chinese drywall contains both Sr and S, but ... |
eppur_se_muova |
Apr-04-10 06:42 PM |
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Another clearinghouse for status updates: CPSC Website |
eppur_se_muova |
Apr-03-10 02:59 PM |
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Yada yada. Am still waiting on the Class-action Petfood Lawsuit. |
glinda |
Apr-02-10 11:46 PM |
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Corrodes wiring, ducts, computers and doornobs . . . . |
caseymoz |
Apr-02-10 06:17 PM |
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The REAL irony would be if we were illegally invaded. |
WinkyDink |
Apr-02-10 06:44 PM |
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OMFG. How much? |
nolabear |
Apr-02-10 06:35 PM |
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Ummm..maybe we should stop all our manufacturing going to China? |
lib2DaBone |
Apr-02-10 06:36 PM |
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Will the Federal Govt PAY for these repairs? NO? Then GMA*B here. |
WinkyDink |
Apr-02-10 06:43 PM |
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Please tell me what GMA*B is. I have severe acronym fatigue. |
salguine |
Apr-02-10 07:21 PM |
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Give Me A &*%&^# Break. |
WinkyDink |
Apr-02-10 09:59 PM |
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China should pay for new homes for those affected. n/t |
alp227 |
Apr-02-10 07:27 PM |
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just heard the drywall in hampton roads was made by a company |
Gin |
Apr-02-10 07:54 PM |
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In the long run the federal government may have to tell the homeowners... |
Jkid |
Apr-02-10 07:55 PM |
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If we have Chinese drywall I am going to abandon our home. |
glinda |
Apr-02-10 11:48 PM |
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I don't think tariffs are the solution |
jdp349 |
Apr-02-10 08:00 PM |
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To hell with the WTO when it comes to consumer recourse. |
blue97keet |
Apr-02-10 08:56 PM |
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The steel in the new eastern span of the Bay Bridge |
j420norcal |
Apr-02-10 08:47 PM |
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We have Masonite siding...we're screwed too...ENOUGH! |
CoffeeCat |
Apr-02-10 08:57 PM |
#49 |
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Here's the sickest part of the whole thing |
jmowreader |
Apr-02-10 09:41 PM |
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Not to mention many builders don't bother with sizing when wallpapering |
Digit |
Apr-02-10 10:30 PM |
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You said should have had 2x6 construction |
MattBaggins |
Apr-05-10 10:55 AM |
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As a Realtor (specifically a buyer's agent)... |
Digit |
Apr-02-10 10:26 PM |
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They call it hardboard because that's what it is |
jmowreader |
Apr-03-10 12:06 AM |
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It just gives the connotation that it is real SOLID wood... |
Digit |
Apr-03-10 02:09 AM |
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It does give that impression, true... |
jmowreader |
Apr-03-10 08:50 AM |
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Lets Back Away From Globalization & Laissez Faire |
jobangles |
Apr-02-10 10:26 PM |
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Nailed It! Trade policy is one of the biggest things causing our problems! Maybe |
patrice |
Apr-02-10 10:52 PM |
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There's nothing truly free about Laissez Faire Capitalism anyway. |
patrice |
Apr-02-10 11:29 PM |
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Welcome to DU! |
Quantess |
Apr-03-10 06:27 PM |
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Excellent post, worth of its own thread. |
Dappleganger |
Apr-05-10 12:52 PM |
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you talking about hardiplank? |
elehhhhna |
Apr-03-10 10:45 AM |
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Hardiplank is fiber cement |
jmowreader |
Apr-04-10 07:03 PM |
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Sawdust? I swear the crap on the side of my house is more like |
MattBaggins |
Apr-05-10 10:58 AM |
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It LOOKS like cardboard, but it's made out of sawdust |
jmowreader |
Apr-05-10 10:51 PM |
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Seems the USA is not getting the "good end" with cheap Chinese goods |
Haole Girl |
Apr-02-10 09:08 PM |
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Feds: House of Lies built with "Cheney's drywall" OK even if toxic to survival of Constitution |
troubledamerican |
Apr-02-10 09:13 PM |
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Drywall sucks. PLASTER! |
HuckleB |
Apr-02-10 09:30 PM |
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I'd agree, but there's a problem... |
jmowreader |
Apr-02-10 09:44 PM |
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That's probably true. |
HuckleB |
Apr-02-10 10:51 PM |
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That doesn't mean that there couldn't be plasterers there. |
patrice |
Apr-03-10 09:25 AM |
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its more expensive than drywall, I in NM we have gypsum all over! |
Lost4words |
Apr-03-10 10:09 AM |
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Do you see any straw-bale houses down there? |
patrice |
Apr-03-10 10:34 AM |
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they dont look much different from the outside, really. You forgot the used tires! |
Lost4words |
Apr-03-10 03:25 PM |
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That's not going to work in the plastering trade |
jmowreader |
Apr-04-10 06:55 PM |
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When PROFIT is THE only consideration, this happens every time. |
Lost4words |
Apr-03-10 10:07 AM |
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Free trade and deregulation! And the neo-libs still shout - long live the "free" market! |
scentopine |
Apr-03-10 10:19 AM |
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In the end, deregulation becomes more expensive to everyone |
fascisthunter |
Apr-03-10 01:35 PM |
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"How's that NAFTA SHAFTA workin' for yew?" |
omega minimo |
Apr-03-10 01:57 PM |
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What exactly does NAFTA have to do with imports from China? |
tranche |
Apr-03-10 03:35 PM |
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"What exactly does NAFTA have to do with imports from China?" |
omega minimo |
Apr-03-10 03:37 PM |
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We've got real drywall in New Mexico! Lots and Lots of it! |
Lost4words |
Apr-05-10 11:09 AM |
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Free Trade is so wonderful, innit? |
Odin2005 |
Apr-04-10 07:45 AM |
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Dimes to doughnuts the taxpayer gets the bill for this. nt |
Romulox |
Apr-05-10 11:03 AM |
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And how will they get the cash to do a full gutting! |
Lost4words |
Apr-05-10 11:08 AM |
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