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Tue Mar-30-10 12:23 PM
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| 54. yes, it sucks. and yes its standard procedure |
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Edited on Tue Mar-30-10 12:34 PM by onenote
The Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure, rule 39, provide as follows: Rule 39. Costs (a) Against Whom Assessed. The following rules apply unless the law provides or the court orders otherwise: (1) if an appeal is dismissed, costs are taxed against the appellant, unless the parties agree otherwise; (2) if a judgment is affirmed, costs are taxed against the appellant; (3) if a judgment is reversed, costs are taxed against the appellee; (4) if a judgment is affirmed in part, reversed in part, modified, or vacated, costs are taxed only as the court orders.
While the court has the discretion not to follow the standard rule, generally courts don't depart from the standard rule simply because the prevailing side in a legal dispute is a bunch of dirtbags.
On edit: While I understand the rationale for the ruling, that doesn't mean I want Snyder to have to pay and urge others to join me in donating to cover these costs.
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| -Marine's father ordered to pay Westboro's court costs |
RamboLiberal |
Mar-29-10 05:13 PM |
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terrible journalism |
lazarus |
Mar-29-10 05:16 PM |
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The Huffington Post version: |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Mar-29-10 06:39 PM |
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presumably the reason is that the standard rule is to award costs |
onenote |
Mar-30-10 12:33 PM |
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I would refuse, totally & absolutely. |
baldguy |
Mar-29-10 05:17 PM |
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It's not that easy. He could end up getting a lien on his house or his pay check garnished. |
superconnected |
Mar-29-10 05:21 PM |
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Kansas City Star Editorial Writer |
RamboLiberal |
Mar-29-10 05:25 PM |
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Can't he seek a stay until the case is heard on further appeal? |
14thColony |
Mar-29-10 05:28 PM |
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It would typically depend on whether the judge thinks he has any chance at all... |
Tesha |
Mar-29-10 06:30 PM |
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You're right of course |
14thColony |
Mar-30-10 04:29 AM |
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I heartily endorse efforts to defray the Marine's costs! (NT) |
Tesha |
Mar-30-10 08:11 AM |
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Yes, but speech free zones exist for abortion clinics. Why not for cemeteries? |
No Elephants |
Mar-30-10 04:40 AM |
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The "bubbles" around women's clinics are dubious as well. |
Tesha |
Mar-30-10 08:08 AM |
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Phelps' family (his "real" one) are all lawyers. God hates fags but loves lawyers! |
AlbertCat |
Mar-29-10 05:33 PM |
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Unbelievable |
Libertas1776 |
Mar-29-10 05:40 PM |
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Even kooks have constitutional rights |
struggle4progress |
Mar-29-10 06:01 PM |
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I bet his crazy daughter is the lead attorney, too. |
nealmhughes |
Mar-29-10 06:06 PM |
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For sure, the Phelps gang are a gaggle of crazy sickos. Nor do I think |
struggle4progress |
Mar-29-10 06:26 PM |
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Some here believe in the First Amendment only if you agree with them! |
Democat |
Mar-29-10 11:00 PM |
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That really isn't even the real issue in this story |
DumpDavisHogg |
Mar-29-10 11:48 PM |
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My natural sympathies are with the bereaved, but I think you misstate the situation: |
struggle4progress |
Mar-30-10 07:50 AM |
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i would chip in, too. eom |
ellenfl |
Mar-29-10 06:08 PM |
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This is how the scum are able to travel all over the place |
KamaAina |
Mar-29-10 06:15 PM |
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These Swine |
Old Troop |
Mar-29-10 06:38 PM |
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pay it in fuckin pennies and dump the load of pennies on their lawn - they can eat it |
tomm2thumbs |
Mar-29-10 07:31 PM |
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That is perfect. The ruling doesn't say HOW they have to pay, does it? |
Zoeisright |
Mar-30-10 12:05 AM |
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Not a bad idea |
Abq_Sarah |
Mar-30-10 05:58 PM |
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just make sure he's standing there when it dumps |
tomm2thumbs |
Mar-31-10 11:54 AM |
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This makes me want to puke. |
one_voice |
Mar-29-10 07:32 PM |
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Here's the father's website |
RamboLiberal |
Mar-29-10 07:45 PM |
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Thank you. |
one_voice |
Mar-29-10 07:49 PM |
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thanks |
frylock |
Mar-29-10 09:48 PM |
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It will a glorious day when Phelps leaves this world! |
Grand Taurean |
Mar-29-10 08:15 PM |
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Name removed |
Mar-29-10 08:42 PM |
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Inappropriate approach |
pundaint |
Mar-30-10 12:26 AM |
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WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ????????????????????????????? |
BrklynLiberal |
Mar-29-10 08:45 PM |
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His lawyers are working pro-bono on this case n/t |
RamboLiberal |
Mar-29-10 09:31 PM |
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Fourth Circuit = fifth column |
DumpDavisHogg |
Mar-29-10 10:01 PM |
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and what would be the grounds for impeachment? |
onenote |
Mar-30-10 12:26 PM |
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I have met some of the Phelps family |
pipoman |
Mar-30-10 12:05 AM |
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This is what happens when we allow people to abuse their freedom of speech |
bluestateguy |
Mar-30-10 01:38 AM |
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This is an obscenity. We have to write to the papers and directly |
EFerrari |
Mar-30-10 02:04 AM |
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who are the justices on this court? . . . who appointed them? . . . |
OneBlueSky |
Mar-30-10 04:38 AM |
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King, Shedd, and Duncan |
marshall |
Mar-30-10 08:56 AM |
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I hope the Phelps family gets absolutely everything they've got coming. |
mbperrin |
Mar-30-10 08:17 AM |
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The Law is an ass. |
TacticalPeek |
Mar-30-10 08:47 AM |
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Father Of Dead Marine Ordered To Pay Legal Fees Of Westobro Baptist Church Protesters |
kpete |
Mar-30-10 10:34 AM |
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wtf! this family's son died serving his country and now the family is forced to |
ejpoeta |
Mar-30-10 10:35 AM |
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This news is a day old. Amazing ruling. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Mar-30-10 10:35 AM |
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That's an outrage. |
deutsey |
Mar-30-10 10:35 AM |
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I don't get it |
DeepBlueC |
Mar-30-10 10:35 AM |
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Well, the Phelps people are a church, and churches can do |
Bluenorthwest |
Mar-30-10 10:35 AM |
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It started when Snyder sued the Phelps clan. |
Dr. Strange |
Mar-30-10 10:35 AM |
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There needs to be a fund rasier for this family. n/t |
Jefferson23 |
Mar-30-10 10:35 AM |
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you can donate to al snyder's legal fund.. |
frylock |
Mar-30-10 10:35 AM |
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Thank you for that! I am deeply offended by the fact that this family |
Jefferson23 |
Mar-30-10 11:14 AM |
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i felt a need to donate as well |
frylock |
Mar-30-10 11:46 AM |
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Outrageous. Donated /nt |
dickthegrouch |
Mar-30-10 10:35 AM |
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yes, it sucks. and yes its standard procedure |
onenote |
Mar-30-10 12:23 PM |
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I'd burn every cent I had before giving it to Phelps. |
proteus_lives |
Mar-30-10 01:12 PM |
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Westboro can afford $16,500 a lot better than a private citizen can. |
BreweryYardRat |
Mar-30-10 05:07 PM |
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O'Reilly Pays Legal Bill for Fallen Marine's Father |
Dr. Strange |
Mar-31-10 09:27 AM |
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Good for him. |
joshcryer |
Mar-31-10 10:20 AM |
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Have to admit this is a noble jesture, |
Old Vet |
Mar-31-10 02:09 PM |
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It sickens me, but I agree with the core decision.. |
X_Digger |
Mar-31-10 03:47 PM |
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