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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 12:16 PM
Response to Reply #22
26. Like a broken clock
he is right twice a day.

he is repeating what the CBO head stated:

Although CBO completed a preliminary review of legislative language prior to its release, the agency has not thoroughly examined the reconciliation proposal to verify its consistency with the previous draft. This estimate is therefore preliminary, pending a review of the language of the reconciliation proposal, as well as further review and refinement of the budgetary projections. (CBO Director Doug Elmendorf, Letter To Rep. Nancy Pelosi, 3/18/10, P.1)

or in english:

we don't really know for sure we are just guessing as the whole enchilada isn't in yet.
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  -Dem Source: CBO Says Health Bill Cuts Deficit (by $130 Billion),Costs $940 Billion kpete  Mar-18-10 08:35 AM   #0 
  - Well, that's positive.  MineralMan   Mar-18-10 08:39 AM   #1 
  - The more one looks at the bill the better it gets  NJmaverick   Mar-18-10 09:03 AM   #2 
  - +1  nyy1998   Mar-18-10 09:26 AM   #4 
  - +1  Change Happens   Mar-18-10 10:10 AM   #11 
  - If only the CBO had rated HR 676. Here's at least hoping the OP figures are correct.  No Elephants   Mar-18-10 09:04 AM   #3 
  - +1 on the first part of that  Roland99   Mar-18-10 09:41 AM   #7 
  - So will those over 55, but not eligible for Medicare.  No Elephants   Mar-18-10 02:25 PM   #44 
  - Agreed, and we certainly have our work cut out for us, considering:  Jefferson23   Mar-18-10 10:05 AM   #10 
  - In some, the Kool-Aid and sheepleness is indeed strong. However, with all due  No Elephants   Mar-18-10 02:41 PM   #45 
     - I believe Greenwald's points are on this one domestic issue, and not  Jefferson23   Mar-18-10 04:01 PM   #54 
  - Are you kidding?!?!  RoccoR5955   Mar-18-10 10:59 AM   #16 
  - Ha! That would have helped AMERICANS too much!!!! nt  valerief   Mar-18-10 01:11 PM   #34 
  - That's not much of a cut  derby378   Mar-18-10 09:34 AM   #5 
  - You can't be series!!!1! It is a miracle that giving subsidies, etc, cuts deficit at all! nt  thereismore   Mar-18-10 09:41 AM   #6 
  - The first 10 years are a bit of a wash - almost like breaking even  LynneSin   Mar-18-10 09:53 AM   #9 
  - Do you support abolishing medicare?  Renew Deal   Mar-18-10 10:49 AM   #13 
  - So would raising the Medicare premium for those who can bear the increase.  No Elephants   Mar-18-10 02:44 PM   #46 
  - It is impressive in its unimpressiveness  jmowreader   Mar-18-10 12:51 PM   #30 
  - Not exactly. The CBO does not equal my own lying eyes.  No Elephants   Mar-18-10 02:46 PM   #47 
  - You make a very good point  derby378   Mar-18-10 03:26 PM   #52 
  - And what I wonder is how many people think that this means the CONSUMERS  truedelphi   Mar-18-10 03:19 PM   #51 
  - k&r  madmax   Mar-18-10 09:44 AM   #8 
  - If it reduces human misery, brings health care to people, and helps improve...  Ozymanithrax   Mar-18-10 10:33 AM   #12 
  - Only in Washington  PoliticalOne65   Mar-18-10 10:53 AM   #14 
  - That is completely unassailable logic on your part.  eyepaddle   Mar-18-10 11:18 AM   #17 
  - It costs $940B, but that $940B's fully paid for.  backscatter712   Mar-18-10 11:29 AM   #19 
  - They are crazy?  AlbertCat   Mar-18-10 11:44 AM   #21 
  - The $940 MM figure would still be spend absent HRC  Zambero   Mar-18-10 12:04 PM   #25 
  - That's because  bergie321   Mar-18-10 12:54 PM   #31 
  - If you had...  Dappleganger   Mar-18-10 02:06 PM   #43 
  - Funny, I googled CBO and errors -- and found they've made lots of them  SandWalker1984   Mar-18-10 10:57 AM   #15 
  - No, in other words, forecasting is never 100% full-proof.  Jennicut   Mar-18-10 01:02 PM   #33 
     - The CBO's forecast tends to be particularly problematic.  Igel   Mar-18-10 11:22 PM   #67 
  - Two words: Let's roll.  JBoy   Mar-18-10 11:28 AM   #18 
  - Damn straight. The purity trolls can suck it! n/t  backscatter712   Mar-18-10 11:35 AM   #20 
  - Remember how that worked out?  No Elephants   Mar-18-10 02:50 PM   #48 
  - I was listening to Rush Limbaugh on the way in to work today.  TheEuclideanOne   Mar-18-10 12:03 PM   #22 
  - Like a broken clock  melm00se   Mar-18-10 12:16 PM   #26 
     - Exactly, this is not a solid estimate.  AtheistCrusader   Mar-18-10 12:39 PM   #29 
     - Yes, but what an extreme angle he was pushing.  TheEuclideanOne   Mar-18-10 01:20 PM   #35 
        - politics is a dirty business n/t  melm00se   Mar-18-10 01:25 PM   #37 
  - K & R  Scurrilous   Mar-18-10 12:03 PM   #23 
  - This is great!  joycean   Mar-18-10 12:03 PM   #24 
  - No more excuses  Zambero   Mar-18-10 12:17 PM   #27 
  - Well this debunked just about every RW talking point  FarLeftFist   Mar-18-10 12:24 PM   #28 
  - someone post when this hits a mainstream source, please  bos1   Mar-18-10 12:57 PM   #32 
  - You need a reliable source?  joycean   Mar-18-10 01:22 PM   #36 
     - Is that the new one referred to in the TPM article?  bos1   Mar-18-10 02:06 PM   #42 
        - What kind of policy dork do you take me for?  joycean   Mar-18-10 03:17 PM   #50 
           - here's the answer I wanted -- found it myself thanks  bos1   Mar-18-10 05:45 PM   #56 
  - The question is  joycean   Mar-18-10 01:27 PM   #38 
  - No Public Option/ No Deal n/t  johnlal   Mar-18-10 01:43 PM   #39 
  - You make the republicans and Blue Dogs very happy. The Progressive Caucus - not so much. n/t  pampango   Mar-18-10 03:44 PM   #53 
     - Well thankfully, the only progressives that can be coerced are those in office. n/t  EFerrari   Mar-18-10 08:59 PM   #65 
        - So progressive in office don't have the spines that Blue Dogs and republicans have?  pampango   Mar-19-10 03:33 AM   #69 
  - All over the country, goober's heads are exploding!  tonekat   Mar-18-10 01:46 PM   #40 
  - Now they can pass it without excuses  craigmatic   Mar-18-10 01:58 PM   #41 
  - The sheep, tea-baggers & the usual republicans imbeciles, WON"T hear this on Fox News, or  GreenTea   Mar-18-10 03:13 PM   #49 
  - Not really...  warm regards   Mar-18-10 04:51 PM   #55 
  - House Democrats unveil latest changes to $940 billion health bill, move toward vote  ShockediSay   Mar-18-10 05:55 PM   #57 
  - What? You actually want the right-wing propagandists and opponents to actually tell the full story?  4lbs   Mar-18-10 05:55 PM   #58 
     - Are you referring to the 1.2 trillion in the second ten years?  Uncle Joe   Mar-18-10 07:45 PM   #60 
  - By taking the money out of the hides of the middle class and the near poor  eridani   Mar-18-10 06:43 PM   #59 
  - Smells like to me funded Fascist propaganda nt  ShockediSay   Mar-18-10 08:41 PM   #62 
     - Fascism = government being the enforcer for the interests of corporations n/t  eridani   Mar-18-10 08:48 PM   #63 
        - Fascism = RIGHT WING CORPORATE POWER/CONTROL  ShockediSay   Mar-18-10 08:53 PM   #64 
           - The ones Obama met with last summer n/t  eridani   Mar-19-10 02:57 AM   #68 
  - MSNBC: Health vote likely Sunday; Obama delays trip  steven johnson   Mar-18-10 08:37 PM   #61 
  - Gee, too bad it won't improve access to Health Care in USAmerika (n/t)  ProudDad   Mar-18-10 10:39 PM   #66 

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