melm00se
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Thu Mar-18-10 12:16 PM
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he is right twice a day.
he is repeating what the CBO head stated:
“Although CBO completed a preliminary review of legislative language prior to its release, the agency has not thoroughly examined the reconciliation proposal to verify its consistency with the previous draft. This estimate is therefore preliminary, pending a review of the language of the reconciliation proposal, as well as further review and refinement of the budgetary projections.” (CBO Director Doug Elmendorf, Letter To Rep. Nancy Pelosi, 3/18/10, P.1)
or in english:
we don't really know for sure we are just guessing as the whole enchilada isn't in yet.
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| -Dem Source: CBO Says Health Bill Cuts Deficit (by $130 Billion),Costs $940 Billion |
kpete |
Mar-18-10 08:35 AM |
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Well, that's positive. |
MineralMan |
Mar-18-10 08:39 AM |
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The more one looks at the bill the better it gets |
NJmaverick |
Mar-18-10 09:03 AM |
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+1 |
nyy1998 |
Mar-18-10 09:26 AM |
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+1 |
Change Happens |
Mar-18-10 10:10 AM |
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If only the CBO had rated HR 676. Here's at least hoping the OP figures are correct. |
No Elephants |
Mar-18-10 09:04 AM |
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+1 on the first part of that |
Roland99 |
Mar-18-10 09:41 AM |
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So will those over 55, but not eligible for Medicare. |
No Elephants |
Mar-18-10 02:25 PM |
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Agreed, and we certainly have our work cut out for us, considering: |
Jefferson23 |
Mar-18-10 10:05 AM |
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In some, the Kool-Aid and sheepleness is indeed strong. However, with all due |
No Elephants |
Mar-18-10 02:41 PM |
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I believe Greenwald's points are on this one domestic issue, and not |
Jefferson23 |
Mar-18-10 04:01 PM |
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Are you kidding?!?! |
RoccoR5955 |
Mar-18-10 10:59 AM |
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Ha! That would have helped AMERICANS too much!!!! nt |
valerief |
Mar-18-10 01:11 PM |
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That's not much of a cut |
derby378 |
Mar-18-10 09:34 AM |
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You can't be series!!!1! It is a miracle that giving subsidies, etc, cuts deficit at all! nt |
thereismore |
Mar-18-10 09:41 AM |
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The first 10 years are a bit of a wash - almost like breaking even |
LynneSin |
Mar-18-10 09:53 AM |
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Do you support abolishing medicare? |
Renew Deal |
Mar-18-10 10:49 AM |
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So would raising the Medicare premium for those who can bear the increase. |
No Elephants |
Mar-18-10 02:44 PM |
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It is impressive in its unimpressiveness |
jmowreader |
Mar-18-10 12:51 PM |
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Not exactly. The CBO does not equal my own lying eyes. |
No Elephants |
Mar-18-10 02:46 PM |
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You make a very good point |
derby378 |
Mar-18-10 03:26 PM |
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And what I wonder is how many people think that this means the CONSUMERS |
truedelphi |
Mar-18-10 03:19 PM |
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k&r |
madmax |
Mar-18-10 09:44 AM |
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If it reduces human misery, brings health care to people, and helps improve... |
Ozymanithrax |
Mar-18-10 10:33 AM |
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Only in Washington |
PoliticalOne65 |
Mar-18-10 10:53 AM |
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That is completely unassailable logic on your part. |
eyepaddle |
Mar-18-10 11:18 AM |
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It costs $940B, but that $940B's fully paid for. |
backscatter712 |
Mar-18-10 11:29 AM |
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They are crazy? |
AlbertCat |
Mar-18-10 11:44 AM |
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The $940 MM figure would still be spend absent HRC |
Zambero |
Mar-18-10 12:04 PM |
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That's because |
bergie321 |
Mar-18-10 12:54 PM |
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If you had... |
Dappleganger |
Mar-18-10 02:06 PM |
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Funny, I googled CBO and errors -- and found they've made lots of them |
SandWalker1984 |
Mar-18-10 10:57 AM |
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No, in other words, forecasting is never 100% full-proof. |
Jennicut |
Mar-18-10 01:02 PM |
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The CBO's forecast tends to be particularly problematic. |
Igel |
Mar-18-10 11:22 PM |
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Two words: Let's roll. |
JBoy |
Mar-18-10 11:28 AM |
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Damn straight. The purity trolls can suck it! n/t |
backscatter712 |
Mar-18-10 11:35 AM |
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Remember how that worked out? |
No Elephants |
Mar-18-10 02:50 PM |
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I was listening to Rush Limbaugh on the way in to work today. |
TheEuclideanOne |
Mar-18-10 12:03 PM |
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Like a broken clock |
melm00se |
Mar-18-10 12:16 PM |
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Exactly, this is not a solid estimate. |
AtheistCrusader |
Mar-18-10 12:39 PM |
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Yes, but what an extreme angle he was pushing. |
TheEuclideanOne |
Mar-18-10 01:20 PM |
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politics is a dirty business n/t |
melm00se |
Mar-18-10 01:25 PM |
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K & R |
Scurrilous |
Mar-18-10 12:03 PM |
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This is great! |
joycean |
Mar-18-10 12:03 PM |
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No more excuses |
Zambero |
Mar-18-10 12:17 PM |
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Well this debunked just about every RW talking point |
FarLeftFist |
Mar-18-10 12:24 PM |
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someone post when this hits a mainstream source, please |
bos1 |
Mar-18-10 12:57 PM |
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You need a reliable source? |
joycean |
Mar-18-10 01:22 PM |
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Is that the new one referred to in the TPM article? |
bos1 |
Mar-18-10 02:06 PM |
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What kind of policy dork do you take me for? |
joycean |
Mar-18-10 03:17 PM |
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here's the answer I wanted -- found it myself thanks |
bos1 |
Mar-18-10 05:45 PM |
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The question is |
joycean |
Mar-18-10 01:27 PM |
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No Public Option/ No Deal n/t |
johnlal |
Mar-18-10 01:43 PM |
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You make the republicans and Blue Dogs very happy. The Progressive Caucus - not so much. n/t |
pampango |
Mar-18-10 03:44 PM |
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Well thankfully, the only progressives that can be coerced are those in office. n/t |
EFerrari |
Mar-18-10 08:59 PM |
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So progressive in office don't have the spines that Blue Dogs and republicans have? |
pampango |
Mar-19-10 03:33 AM |
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All over the country, goober's heads are exploding! |
tonekat |
Mar-18-10 01:46 PM |
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Now they can pass it without excuses |
craigmatic |
Mar-18-10 01:58 PM |
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The sheep, tea-baggers & the usual republicans imbeciles, WON"T hear this on Fox News, or |
GreenTea |
Mar-18-10 03:13 PM |
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Not really... |
warm regards |
Mar-18-10 04:51 PM |
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House Democrats unveil latest changes to $940 billion health bill, move toward vote |
ShockediSay |
Mar-18-10 05:55 PM |
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What? You actually want the right-wing propagandists and opponents to actually tell the full story? |
4lbs |
Mar-18-10 05:55 PM |
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Are you referring to the 1.2 trillion in the second ten years? |
Uncle Joe |
Mar-18-10 07:45 PM |
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By taking the money out of the hides of the middle class and the near poor |
eridani |
Mar-18-10 06:43 PM |
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Smells like to me funded Fascist propaganda nt |
ShockediSay |
Mar-18-10 08:41 PM |
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Fascism = government being the enforcer for the interests of corporations n/t |
eridani |
Mar-18-10 08:48 PM |
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Fascism = RIGHT WING CORPORATE POWER/CONTROL |
ShockediSay |
Mar-18-10 08:53 PM |
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The ones Obama met with last summer n/t |
eridani |
Mar-19-10 02:57 AM |
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MSNBC: Health vote likely Sunday; Obama delays trip |
steven johnson |
Mar-18-10 08:37 PM |
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Gee, too bad it won't improve access to Health Care in USAmerika (n/t) |
ProudDad |
Mar-18-10 10:39 PM |
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