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EdGy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #145
147. you're confused
When I say that someone is a legitimate military target I am stating a fact.

US soldiers are legitimate military targets if they are in a war. That is a fact. By saying that, I am not "advocating" their death. I am merely pointing to a fact.

The missionaries are an extension of the US military occupation. I am not advocating their death. I am merely pointing out that as part of the occupying forces who are seeking to stamp out local culture and religion, they are also legitimate targets. I am not advocating it. I am pointing out that fact, whether you like it or not.

Of course the US government denounces anyone who uses violence against its own interest as terrorists, I have become used to that. And I also expect apologists for US imperialism to use the same language.
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  - this, more than anything, is why we will never "win" in Iraq . . .  OneBlueSky   Mar-18-04 06:02 AM   #1 
  - Not only that, These Guys are going to get Blown to Bits  saigon68   Mar-19-04 08:53 PM   #144 
  - Converts?  MurryMom   Mar-18-04 06:29 AM   #2 
  - And holding out food while there is none to be found ...  tlcandie   Mar-18-04 06:32 AM   #3 
  - The same proselytizing technique  megatherium   Mar-18-04 07:21 AM   #13 
  - Notice how American principles in the last 3 years have deteriorated?  rooboy   Mar-18-04 08:01 AM   #19 
     - point well taken.  megatherium   Mar-18-04 12:18 PM   #35 
     - our fundies are worse than Islamic fundies  SemperEadem   Mar-19-04 03:34 AM   #73 
        - That's not all  ck4829   Mar-21-04 09:12 AM   #158 
  - I'll listen to some guy babble about Christ...  Tommy_Douglas   Mar-18-04 08:31 AM   #20 
  - Weirdo Ralph Reed's political contributions  newsmeat.com   Mar-19-04 06:25 PM   #133 
  - I hate it when these freakoid paranoid crazies tell me UMC is not  schultzee   Mar-18-04 06:54 AM   #4 
  - UMC???  murielm99   Mar-18-04 07:05 AM   #5 
  - I would say United Methodist Church .. yes ...  tlcandie   Mar-18-04 07:10 AM   #7 
  - Don't these freakazoids know that  murielm99   Mar-18-04 07:12 AM   #9 
     - I thought he was Episcopalian??  smirkymonkey   Mar-18-04 10:48 AM   #26 
        - Episcopalian  area51   Mar-18-04 11:49 AM   #29 
  - I Think It's The United Methodist Church  voted4wellstone   Mar-18-04 07:11 AM   #8 
  - UMC?  PsychoDad   Mar-18-04 07:08 AM   #6 
     - Christians  Disturbed   Mar-18-04 07:17 AM   #10 
  - Well, at least the terra-ists will flock to Iraq  Ilsa   Mar-18-04 07:19 AM   #11 
  - Fighting Fundies in Detroit?  Axel   Mar-19-04 11:11 AM   #93 
     - Has G DUHbya ever read the bible?  Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin   Mar-19-04 09:47 PM   #149 
  - It isn't a scoop !  BonjourUSA   Mar-18-04 07:20 AM   #12 
  - Iraqi Gov't letting these guys in???  opihimoimoi   Mar-18-04 07:30 AM   #14 
     - This organisation is paid by  BonjourUSA   Mar-18-04 07:45 AM   #17 
  - The churches that are sending these misguided missionaries  IndianaGreen   Mar-18-04 07:31 AM   #15 
  - Did the British try this tactic in the 1920's?  0007   Mar-18-04 07:31 AM   #16 
  - This stuff predates the British in the 1920s  playahata1   Mar-18-04 08:01 AM   #18 
     - VERY right on there playahata1!!!!  tlcandie   Mar-18-04 08:54 PM   #59 
     - Very good! I love it!!  0007   Mar-19-04 01:33 PM   #104 
  - those poor Iraqis  Cocoa   Mar-18-04 08:36 AM   #21 
  - I don't know which is worse!  smirkymonkey   Mar-18-04 10:51 AM   #27 
  - On the bright side  maxrandb   Mar-18-04 07:01 PM   #54 
  - "Handing out food is a perfect time to talk about Jesus Christ..."  veganwitch   Mar-18-04 08:39 AM   #22 
  - I agree. They should just give the aid, without strings attached.  dawn   Mar-18-04 11:55 AM   #30 
     - I notice that about the churches around my area..  Caliphoto   Mar-18-04 12:12 PM   #32 
     - I know. It's really sad.  dawn   Mar-18-04 12:33 PM   #36 
     - Actually, simply because a church has other ministries doesn't necessarily  Roaming   Mar-18-04 03:46 PM   #45 
     - ever see that episode in south park..  veganwitch   Mar-18-04 02:28 PM   #40 
  - Welcome to the Crusade . . . .  TheStranger   Mar-18-04 08:49 AM   #23 
  - Dubya sure wasn't kidding about a "crusade"...  FlyByNight   Mar-18-04 06:55 PM   #53 
  - Rapture Rapture Rapture  jokerman2004   Mar-19-04 10:47 AM   #92 
  - these people are legitimate military targets  EdGy   Mar-18-04 08:56 AM   #24 
  - And they are going to get their Bootys Kicked  saigon68   Mar-18-04 09:13 AM   #25 
  - And the targets are getting hit….  peterh   Mar-18-04 04:41 PM   #48 
  - Kind of like the Children's Crusade  Axel   Mar-19-04 11:19 AM   #94 
  - That's idiotic  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-18-04 10:52 PM   #63 
  - yeah, I kind of agree with you. but it's like going into a dark alley  okieinpain   Mar-19-04 06:41 AM   #75 
  - what you're saying is idiotic  EdGy   Mar-19-04 07:16 AM   #76 
  - I didn't distort a thing  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-19-04 09:52 AM   #86 
  - you continue to distort!  EdGy   Mar-19-04 01:45 PM   #105 
     - According to you, noncombatants "are legitimate military targets"  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-19-04 01:56 PM   #107 
        - they are neither innocent nor noncombatants  EdGy   Mar-19-04 02:01 PM   #109 
           - If they aren't fighting or in the military they are noncombatants  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-19-04 08:36 PM   #139 
              - Sometimes I wonder what is more disturbing...  Columbia   Mar-19-04 08:57 PM   #145 
              - you're confused  EdGy   Mar-19-04 09:09 PM   #147 
                 - You are indeed rationalizing acts of terror  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-19-04 10:24 PM   #151 
                    - You forgot "enemy combatant" bush*.  TankLV   Mar-21-04 07:29 PM   #182 
              - no  EdGy   Mar-19-04 09:04 PM   #146 
                 - I don't apologize or apologist  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-19-04 10:27 PM   #152 
                    - Muddle...  JohnLocke   Mar-20-04 09:30 PM   #156 
  - You are completely correct  jokerman2004   Mar-19-04 11:24 AM   #95 
  - Then there's the martyr complex  Axel   Mar-19-04 11:35 AM   #98 
  - Bingo!  jokerman2004   Mar-19-04 11:49 AM   #101 
  - Religion is the most successful con to subjugate people...  dax   Mar-21-04 09:16 AM   #159 
     - "If local people ask for your presence, then you can go otherwise, you are  EdGy   Mar-21-04 09:25 AM   #160 
        - So if One Person invites you, it's OK?  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-21-04 10:31 AM   #162 
           - that is a good point  EdGy   Mar-21-04 10:58 AM   #167 
              - If you are waiting for U.S. corporations to leave  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-21-04 02:54 PM   #171 
                 - you are correct.  EdGy   Mar-21-04 03:34 PM   #173 
                    - So now we get down to it  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-21-04 03:57 PM   #174 
                       - I am opposed  EdGy   Mar-21-04 04:10 PM   #175 
                          - All the difference is soft sell vs. hard sell  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-21-04 04:17 PM   #177 
                             - that is not exactly true  EdGy   Mar-21-04 04:38 PM   #178 
  - The old anti-DU mantra  Axel   Mar-19-04 11:26 AM   #97 
  - Nice try. But that's not going to fly here.  TheStranger   Mar-19-04 08:28 AM   #82 
  - Bingo. Well said.  TankLV   Mar-21-04 07:33 PM   #183 
  - We as a nation also seem to believe in imposing our beliefs on others  Sandpiper   Mar-19-04 05:24 PM   #124 
  - Shades of political commissars  BEZARK   Mar-21-04 10:36 AM   #165 
  - So it really is a crusade.  Kool Kitty   Mar-18-04 10:58 AM   #28 
  - Okay.. I'm officially sick of the "non-believer" crap!!!  Caliphoto   Mar-18-04 12:10 PM   #31 
  - What term would you prefer?  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-18-04 10:54 PM   #65 
     - You're the "non-believer"  bobbyboucher   Mar-21-04 04:13 PM   #176 
     - the brights  eurolefty   Mar-21-04 06:50 PM   #181 
  - I'd rather be in Hell with Ghandi, then in Heaven with these people!  Caliphoto   Mar-18-04 12:14 PM   #33 
  - I have often thought of that  Marianne   Mar-18-04 07:29 PM   #55 
  - extremely well put  newsmeat.com   Mar-19-04 06:31 PM   #134 
  - How about all these fundies go to Iraq  devinsgram   Mar-18-04 12:17 PM   #34 
  - I'm so tired of evangelists.  dawn   Mar-18-04 12:36 PM   #37 
  - The inquisition.. what a show!  The Animator   Mar-18-04 01:07 PM   #38 
  - What would happen  SOS   Mar-18-04 01:24 PM   #39 
  - that's an excellent question!!  EdGy   Mar-18-04 02:31 PM   #41 
  - No, it would be different  Sandpiper   Mar-19-04 05:37 PM   #125 
  - They would be shot or lynched.  Jacobin   Mar-18-04 03:34 PM   #43 
  - More to the point  lolly   Mar-19-04 03:05 PM   #112 
     - thank you lolly, this is exactly the point  EdGy   Mar-19-04 03:13 PM   #114 
  - that'll help relations  enki23   Mar-18-04 03:27 PM   #42 
  - Jesus would come and knock these people off their righteous pedestals!  Just Me   Mar-18-04 03:39 PM   #44 
  - Besides loving God and one's neighbor as one's self, the third  Roaming   Mar-18-04 03:55 PM   #46 
  - Are those rose-colored glasses you're wearing?  Junebug1920   Mar-18-04 04:35 PM   #47 
  - [smile] Maybe they're rose-colored, I don't know  Roaming   Mar-18-04 08:34 PM   #57 
     - Hey as long as you're cool with people not liking it.  dawn   Mar-18-04 10:56 PM   #66 
     - Actually, Islam one of the fastest growing religions in the US, and  Roaming   Mar-19-04 05:08 PM   #122 
        - Discussing faith is different than what these missionairies are doing,.  dawn   Mar-21-04 02:36 PM   #170 
     - Whatever works for you is fine  Junebug1920   Mar-19-04 05:32 AM   #74 
     - I agree, respect is tantamount, and naturally flows out of love  Roaming   Mar-19-04 05:10 PM   #123 
     - The love of Christ for these people  Sandpiper   Mar-19-04 05:42 PM   #127 
  - By definition, loving another as yourself means that you do not abuse  TheStranger   Mar-19-04 08:42 AM   #83 
  - and conversly, it does not mean you obliged to listen to anyone of them  Marianne   Mar-19-04 10:30 AM   #90 
  - Believe me, no missionaries are into the business of forcing anyone  Roaming   Mar-19-04 11:25 AM   #96 
     - That sounds good. But,  TheStranger   Mar-19-04 11:42 AM   #100 
     - On the contrary, if you love Christ you are entrusted with  Roaming   Mar-19-04 02:31 PM   #110 
        - His New Commandment trumps the "Great Commission."  TheStranger   Mar-19-04 02:45 PM   #111 
           - Actually, the Great Commission does appear in all the Gospels:  Roaming   Mar-19-04 03:11 PM   #113 
              - Nope.  TheStranger   Mar-19-04 03:51 PM   #117 
                 - Let's look at this more closely then...  Roaming   Mar-19-04 04:43 PM   #120 
                    - That John passage is a bit of a reach  TrogL   Mar-19-04 04:58 PM   #121 
                       - OK, here is just a little bit more than might help make the case  Roaming   Mar-19-04 05:45 PM   #128 
     - Unless they are murdered  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-19-04 01:57 PM   #108 
  - These same missionaries advocated war with Iraq  Sandpiper   Mar-19-04 05:40 PM   #126 
  - Guess you didn't hear about our own taliborniagain general  TankLV   Mar-21-04 07:38 PM   #184 
  - Gotta Say, That Takes Some Guts!  ProfessorGAC   Mar-18-04 04:43 PM   #49 
  - yes it certainly is, and if they get kilt, they will be martyrs for  Marianne   Mar-18-04 06:34 PM   #51 
     - Part of being a Christian  Sandpiper   Mar-19-04 06:35 PM   #135 
  - This is the worst possible thing that could happen  TrogL   Mar-18-04 06:08 PM   #50 
  - There are evangelicals who have an "Armageddon Wish"  dralston   Mar-18-04 06:41 PM   #52 
  - At the beginning of the war, some dip said there were 10-20,000  roguevalley   Mar-18-04 08:08 PM   #56 
  - You're quite right  Sandpiper   Mar-19-04 06:41 PM   #137 
  - So Islam can spread to America, but Christianity can't spread?  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-18-04 10:57 PM   #67 
     - I don't see them standing out in our streets trying to convert  tlcandie   Mar-19-04 08:43 AM   #84 
     - Then you aren't looking the right places  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-19-04 09:55 AM   #87 
        - Mosques... THAT IS NOT THE SAME!!  tlcandie   Mar-19-04 10:14 AM   #89 
           - It holds gallons of water  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-19-04 10:39 AM   #91 
     - Um, do you see Islamic missionaries passing out Korans on the street?  dawn   Mar-19-04 01:25 PM   #103 
     - if you cannot see the difference  EdGy   Mar-19-04 01:47 PM   #106 
     - for a specific example of the difference, see  EdGy   Mar-19-04 03:14 PM   #115 
     - Stop flogging your Straw Man Muddle  Sandpiper   Mar-19-04 06:48 PM   #138 
        - We are not IMPOSING missionaries  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-19-04 08:39 PM   #141 
           - LOL  number6   Mar-19-04 09:30 PM   #148 
              - Not at all  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-19-04 10:28 PM   #153 
                 - Lacking a democratic process  dai   Mar-21-04 10:25 AM   #161 
                    - So if I vacation in Iraq  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-21-04 10:33 AM   #163 
                       - While you may consider yourself  dai   Mar-21-04 10:51 AM   #166 
                          - My callous disregard for Iraqis?  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-21-04 02:58 PM   #172 
                             - What you do in Iraq  dai   Mar-21-04 05:58 PM   #179 
                                - Iraqi rights  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-21-04 06:18 PM   #180 
  - <sigh>  Aussie_Hillbilly   Mar-18-04 08:50 PM   #58 
  - Allah  kera   Mar-18-04 08:55 PM   #60 
  - Good. I hope they all go to proselytize in a war zone  leesa   Mar-18-04 09:40 PM   #61 
  - I Am Christian But...  goclark   Mar-18-04 10:27 PM   #62 
  - Calling for the death of people  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-18-04 10:58 PM   #69 
     - I'm calling for their deaths? THEY are doing it, I say good for them.  leesa   Mar-19-04 09:45 AM   #85 
     - Here are the vile words  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-19-04 09:56 AM   #88 
        - I thought it was calling for their "eternal life."  TheStranger   Mar-19-04 11:39 AM   #99 
     - How progressive of you to support Religious Imperialism  Sandpiper   Mar-19-04 05:47 PM   #129 
        - Imperialism  oldcoot   Mar-19-04 06:37 PM   #136 
           - It is up to them  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-19-04 08:43 PM   #142 
              - Nations have rules  oldcoot   Mar-21-04 10:35 AM   #164 
  - holy war anyone?  renegade000   Mar-18-04 10:53 PM   #64 
  - a joke  kera   Mar-18-04 10:57 PM   #68 
  - Christ, Conquistadores and Missionaries  leftbehind   Mar-19-04 12:19 AM   #70 
  - Comment on the Churches in Iraq  TrogL   Mar-19-04 12:21 AM   #71 
  - Good  jsw_81   Mar-19-04 03:05 AM   #72 
  - I'm with you.  mirandawright   Mar-19-04 08:47 PM   #143 
  - Bye Bye!  Rockholm   Mar-19-04 07:19 AM   #77 
  - Do you realize how these people put our soldiers in JEOPARDY??  Mari333   Mar-19-04 07:28 AM   #78 
  - but Bush sees them as part of the occupation forces  EdGy   Mar-19-04 07:40 AM   #79 
  - One of their own pulled the same ploy on our troops  Axel   Mar-19-04 11:50 AM   #102 
  - Exactly right--and first thoughts to rush to  savistocate   Mar-19-04 06:02 PM   #131 
  - some background on these sorry fools:  ima_sinnic   Mar-19-04 07:53 AM   #80 
  - The muslim world is very aware of these idiots and what they are doing  Mari333   Mar-19-04 08:02 AM   #81 
  - and don't forget this: www.TheocracyWatch.org  ithacan   Mar-19-04 03:31 PM   #116 
  - I posted a link to that in another thread on the 4 fundies that got killed  Chovexani   Mar-19-04 08:38 PM   #140 
  - Here's one sap  looking glass   Mar-19-04 04:14 PM   #118 
  - don't be fooled, here's what it's really about:  EdGy   Mar-19-04 04:36 PM   #119 
  - It's bad timing.  Bridget Burke   Mar-19-04 05:53 PM   #130 
  - Urban Legend  oldcoot   Mar-19-04 06:09 PM   #132 
  - Good! Now the insurgents can attack these SOB's and stop assaulting.....  PROGRESSIVE1   Mar-19-04 10:16 PM   #150 
  - Wow  Muddleoftheroad   Mar-19-04 10:29 PM   #154 
  - If the missionaries want to help...  varun   Mar-19-04 10:39 PM   #155 
  - Shame on the Evangelists  ck4829   Mar-21-04 08:42 AM   #157 
  - Here's one of their funny web sites  Joanne98   Mar-21-04 11:53 AM   #168 
  - After the Missionaries are chased out....  Axel   Mar-21-04 01:58 PM   #169 
 

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