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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:47 AM
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41. At this point we need a whole new terrorism bill
The American people, by and large, support the PATRIOT Act. And by and large they do so because it was specifically designed to be unreadable--most of it works by amending individual lines in a thousand other laws. So instead of "the Architect of the Capitol is directed to install a bastinado platform on the White House lawn" you get "amend paragraph 18 of subsection 6 of chapter 19 of the Defense Authorization Act of 2005 to add the phrase 'one full bunk (44 pieces) 2x12 Southern yellow pine dimensional lumber in 8 foot length, treated with Alkaline Copper Quaternary preservative to "ground contact" rating, and five pounds of 16d hot galvanized common nails, to be delivered to the Freight Receiving Department at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, DC 20500." They can't read it so they have to take their leaders' word that it's a good bill. Those of us who have read it and know what's in there? We know it's an evil bill, but when the president says it's good and some unknown person says it's bad, who are you going to trust? (Before you answer that, remember: he claimed in his campaign he was the right man to be president because he knew what it was like to run a business and meet a payroll even though he ran three oil companies into the ground and traded Sammy Sosa.)

We NEED a healthcare bill, a jobs bill, an economic stimulus bill and a terrorism bill. We have a terrorism bill that's bad but it can't possibly get worse if they don't amend it, so let's do this: extend the dangerous terror bill a year and get the other three bills enacted before we throw the terrorism bathwater out (at this point with that law I'd consider throwing the baby out too because it keeps me up all night shooting craps and smoking cigars) and start fresh.
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  -Obama signs one-year extension of Patriot Act RainMickey  Feb-28-10 10:23 AM   #0 
  - Old news, was posted here last night.  elocs   Feb-28-10 10:33 AM   #1 
  - Sorry, I looked  RainMickey   Feb-28-10 10:40 AM   #2 
  - Change to believe in  saigon68   Mar-01-10 09:03 AM   #42 
  - agreed, wheres that blackwaterdog post?  bkozumplik   Feb-28-10 02:31 PM   #20 
  - Boo and subsequently boo! We are supposed to be the good guys now.  RedCloud   Feb-28-10 10:50 AM   #3 
  - Hold on just a minute there......  cstanleytech   Feb-28-10 08:01 PM   #27 
  - yes, old news - torture, wiretapping, war based on lies, escalation...  scentopine   Feb-28-10 10:53 AM   #4 
  - That happened 24 hours ago--it's time to move on!  marshall   Feb-28-10 04:45 PM   #25 
     - Yep, Old News - Poof *forget it*  panzerfaust   Mar-04-10 04:45 AM   #52 
  - Ah yes, individual liberty my a$$ Thanks Obama for nothing. Again  AllyCat   Feb-28-10 10:56 AM   #5 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-28-10 10:58 AM   #6 
  - I wonder if the constitutional scholar in him died just a bit...  AzDar   Feb-28-10 10:59 AM   #7 
  - The constitutional scholar in him  OnyxCollie   Feb-28-10 11:04 AM   #10 
  - Probably not. But the politician in him just beat the crap out of the scholar.  razorman   Feb-28-10 11:47 AM   #13 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-28-10 11:02 AM   #8 
  - I am getting sicker and sicker of this  Autumn   Feb-28-10 11:02 AM   #9 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-28-10 11:09 AM   #11 
  - OMG; I had forgotten about the library and bookstore records.....  proudohioan   Feb-28-10 01:43 PM   #19 
  - Change You Can Believe In  SlingBlade   Feb-28-10 11:37 AM   #12 
  - Belief You Can Change In - if the situation presents itself!!!  TankLV   Feb-28-10 12:12 PM   #15 
  - Change you can make believe in.  Dr.Phool   Feb-28-10 01:19 PM   #18 
  - "Change"  OhioChick   Feb-28-10 12:11 PM   #14 
  - For Shame, Mr. President  pundaint   Feb-28-10 12:35 PM   #16 
  - I guess Obama just doesn't get it  humbled_opinion   Feb-28-10 12:46 PM   #17 
  - You and others are going on about this but no one has answered me yet.  cstanleytech   Feb-28-10 10:38 PM   #30 
     - OK here is a mirror and a time machine  humbled_opinion   Mar-01-10 01:18 AM   #32 
        - Ya know we arent sheep or not supposed to be.  cstanleytech   Mar-01-10 02:45 AM   #35 
        - I get your point!  RainMickey   Mar-01-10 10:24 AM   #43 
           - Fine, you explain it then to me how is requiring a warrant a bad thing?  cstanleytech   Mar-01-10 12:21 PM   #44 
              - Perhpas you had no problem...  RainMickey   Mar-01-10 12:26 PM   #45 
                 - How about leaving the twisting of things (like putting words into my mouth) to the republicans.  cstanleytech   Mar-01-10 01:33 PM   #46 
  - But - he had a veto-proof majority!  donco6   Feb-28-10 02:44 PM   #21 
  - most americans are afraid of change  scottsoperson   Feb-28-10 07:35 PM   #26 
  - Vetoing a bill sponsored by seven senior Democrats? Approved by voice vote in the Senate?  onenote   Mar-01-10 07:31 AM   #40 
     - Well, not unless he has some balls anyway.  donco6   Mar-01-10 03:07 PM   #48 
  - delete  trusty elf   Feb-28-10 03:32 PM   #22 
  - Where are the cheerleaders? This is great news!!!!  Arctic Dave   Feb-28-10 03:43 PM   #23 
  - *Crickets*  Dinger   Feb-28-10 03:47 PM   #24 
  - The " We are scared little people" Act  Loge23   Feb-28-10 08:47 PM   #28 
  - THANK GOD.  TheWatcher   Feb-28-10 08:49 PM   #29 
  - i don't like the patriot act  scottsoperson   Mar-01-10 12:42 AM   #31 
  - Sigh  humbled_opinion   Mar-01-10 01:20 AM   #33 
  - How exactly will this help President Obama keep his job?  Jax   Mar-01-10 02:54 AM   #36 
  - I DON'T LIKE RACISM, JAX  Skittles   Mar-01-10 04:54 AM   #38 
  - it's #4 on the Big DLC List of Excuses  MisterP   Mar-01-10 03:02 PM   #47 
  - well then that makes him no better than a fucking repuke  Skittles   Mar-01-10 04:53 AM   #37 
  - NICELY done..  humbled_opinion   Mar-01-10 01:24 AM   #34 
  - You should make your own post of this.  donco6   Mar-01-10 07:18 AM   #39 
  - So, you expected him to overturn most of the dmg Bush and his pals (aka the republican party) did to  cstanleytech   Mar-01-10 08:10 PM   #49 
     - You forgot a few talking Points.  TheWatcher   Mar-02-10 04:22 AM   #50 
     - Pointing the finger.  videotape   Mar-03-10 11:35 PM   #51 
  - At this point we need a whole new terrorism bill  jmowreader   Mar-01-10 08:47 AM   #41 

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