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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 02:26 PM
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73. You're giving credit where no credit is due
I saw nothing in his "manifesto" that indicated that his problems with the IRS were the result of depending on the IRS' advice to him which later proved to be incorrect. Rather, it seems that he got mixed up with some of the anti-tax movements which are still active around the US and which are based on nothing but incorrect assertions about tax law by non-lawyers (i.e. I'm not a citizen of the US, etc. etc.). That apparently went south on him as it has done with almost all who take the advice of these groups. In addition, it appears that he had the engineer's delight in arguing his interpretation of IRS statutes with the IRS, since their interpretation didn't make sense to him (see his diatrine about tax law on Independent Contractors). In short, what I take away from this is a guy who thought he was more clever than the IRS and eventually got hoisted on his own petard. Sad, but quite unremarkable.
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  -Kamakazi pilot Joe Stack, who crashed plane into Austin building, hailed by anti-government groups onehandle  Feb-19-10 10:39 AM   #0 
  - Whatever  dipsydoodle   Feb-19-10 10:41 AM   #1 
  - Nah he railed against Ratso-- it was well deserved  saigon68   Feb-19-10 05:58 PM   #81 
  - I'd love to send them to a government free island.  mzmolly   Feb-19-10 10:42 AM   #2 
  - How about Somalia?  DBoon   Feb-19-10 10:48 AM   #7 
     - Funny!  mzmolly   Feb-19-10 12:06 PM   #21 
  - Those saying he's not a terrorist are doing us all a diservice.  Renew Deal   Feb-19-10 10:42 AM   #3 
  - "it's because he's white"  NoFace   Feb-19-10 02:02 PM   #66 
  - People are getting mad and desparate  Craftsman   Feb-19-10 10:42 AM   #4 
  - So you're saying that he was justified.  Renew Deal   Feb-19-10 10:44 AM   #5 
  - No he is not  Craftsman   Feb-19-10 11:03 AM   #15 
  - Someone is always mad and desperate. The husband who murders his wife is mad and desparate.  jobycom   Feb-19-10 11:03 AM   #14 
  - Sometimes, the IRS  christx30   Feb-19-10 11:19 AM   #17 
     - IF you have to do something that drastic, kill yourself. Don't take innocents with you!  madmom   Feb-19-10 11:49 AM   #19 
     - He didn't see them as innocent...  christx30   Feb-19-10 12:18 PM   #23 
     - Was he also concerned that the IRS not get his wife and daughter?  Adsos Letter   Feb-19-10 12:22 PM   #24 
     - I didn't say that he was  christx30   Feb-19-10 01:24 PM   #58 
        - You're giving credit where no credit is due  COLGATE4   Feb-19-10 02:26 PM   #73 
     - From the reports, there was a passenger in the plane with him. Besides, did you read his manifesto?  yellowcanine   Feb-19-10 01:32 PM   #60 
     - I've read no reports of a passenger in plane  RamboLiberal   Feb-19-10 01:57 PM   #63 
        - Yeah I had it wrong. He still is an innocent though regardless of what Stack thought.  yellowcanine   Feb-19-10 02:02 PM   #68 
     - Well the 911 attackers didn't see all those people as innocent either.  madmom   Feb-19-10 02:02 PM   #67 
     - The BUILDING was not only the IRS there are other businesses in there,  Tx4obama   Feb-19-10 02:24 PM   #72 
     - As someone else has mentioned, he should've sold his $100,000 airplane if he was desperate. nt  NoFace   Feb-19-10 02:03 PM   #69 
     - Your logic is no different from that of Dr. Tiller's murderer.  Berry Cool   Feb-19-10 01:01 PM   #54 
     - Ridiculous!  ljm2002   Feb-19-10 03:36 PM   #78 
  - One telling point  Cirque du So-What   Feb-19-10 10:46 AM   #6 
  - Not a terrorist  TerryJ2   Feb-19-10 10:53 AM   #11 
     - Welcome to DU  Gormy Cuss   Feb-19-10 11:00 AM   #13 
     - I'd caution you against thinking you understand his core beliefs.  nolabear   Feb-19-10 11:13 AM   #16 
     - You're not a terrorist. You're a terrorist sympathizer.  Renew Deal   Feb-19-10 11:51 AM   #20 
     - Sure about that?  RaleighNCDUer   Feb-19-10 01:08 PM   #55 
     - He was a terrorist...  Violet_Crumble   Feb-19-10 03:24 PM   #76 
  - An engineer who worked on government contracts who didn't see the point in paying taxes.  PassingFair   Feb-19-10 10:48 AM   #8 
  - They sure do love domestic terrorism.  grytpype   Feb-19-10 10:50 AM   #9 
  - Brown=Terrorist White=Freedom Fighter  CLANG   Feb-19-10 10:51 AM   #10 
  - He's the ultimate centrist!  WriteDown   Feb-19-10 10:55 AM   #12 
  - That's pretty funny and somewhat true. lol  tom_paine   Feb-19-10 11:46 AM   #18 
  - "Propoganda of the deed"  Adsos Letter   Feb-19-10 12:12 PM   #22 
  - Joe Stack is a "True American Hero": Facebook Groups Support Domestic Terrorist  RamboLiberal   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #25 
  - Anarchists  eleny   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #26 
  - Libertarian nutcases.  AlbertCat   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #42 
  - +1  Qutzupalotl   Feb-19-10 01:00 PM   #53 
  - "propoganda of the deed"  Adsos Letter   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #46 
  - I suppose this is good news for the small aircraft industry,  TheCowsCameHome   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #27 
  - LOL n/t  Jefferson23   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #30 
  - Ya Know...  nimvg   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #33 
     - I was thinking myself...  moonbatmax   Feb-19-10 02:34 PM   #75 
        - If It Ever So Happens...  nimvg   Feb-19-10 06:29 PM   #82 
  - We all knew it was coming.  Tesha   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #28 
  - It is as American as apple pie.  Billy Burnett   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #29 
  - But these are people who never had power...  rfranklin   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #32 
  - According to the WH and many DUers, we're not allowed to call this terrorism  Doctor_J   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #31 
  - "no organized group" -- You mean he *WAS* a Democrat?!? (NT)  Tesha   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #34 
     - Well, dying in small planes IS a Democratic tradition.  Jackpine Radical   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #37 
        - (Well spotted -- full marks!) (NT)  Tesha   Feb-19-10 01:59 PM   #64 
  - Sounds like the schools need to do a better job of teaching the Constitution  Dollface   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #35 
  - Radical Anti-tax Groups Growing Threat, Say Law Enforcement  RamboLiberal   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #36 
  - Man, they must hate the fact that Obama gave them  justgamma   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #38 
  - Stack's Manifesto matches the Teabaggers' ...  66 dmhlt   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #39 
  - OMG  NoKoolAideForMeThx   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #40 
  - Except for the anti-capitalist part  SnakeEyes   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #43 
  - Holy crap! A PILOT is a founder of a Stack fan club????  yellowcanine   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #41 
  - This guy has to be a scammer.  AlbertCat   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #45 
  - Poor Alex Jones...a man angry at the govt. MUST be working for the govt. Against tea partiers.  Jennicut   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #44 
  - Against tea partiers.  AlbertCat   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #48 
  - They have suceeded already themselves.  Jennicut   Feb-19-10 12:50 PM   #51 
  - Exactly, I saw that too. Alex Jones claiming it's all a 'false flag' black op against t-baggers.Pftt  NoFace   Feb-19-10 02:06 PM   #70 
  - Stack  CHelms   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #47 
  - ....  coti   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #49 
  - The Tea Baggers Have Their Hero!  Beetwasher   Feb-19-10 12:45 PM   #50 
  - translation: "Better him than us!!"  Blue_Tires   Feb-19-10 01:14 PM   #56 
  - Terrorist.  skyounkin   Feb-19-10 12:52 PM   #52 
  - LOL, and they support his anti-capitalist rage?  The Northerner   Feb-19-10 01:22 PM   #57 
  - Do they know he also murdered someone else in the plane with him?  yellowcanine   Feb-19-10 01:28 PM   #59 
  - It was someone who worked in the building - not in the plane  RamboLiberal   Feb-19-10 01:56 PM   #62 
     - Oops. The news clip I saw on that was not clear. It is still murder, though.  yellowcanine   Feb-19-10 02:00 PM   #65 
  - I guess we need to watchy Emily and Gregg now too?  benld74   Feb-19-10 01:54 PM   #61 
  - These types awfully similar to the Taliban who cheered the 911  Ecumenist   Feb-19-10 02:24 PM   #71 
  - Kamakazi = Kamikaze?  rumpel   Feb-19-10 02:33 PM   #74 
  - I know, they can't spell their romanji right.  sakabatou   Feb-19-10 03:59 PM   #79 
  - Very disgusting  samsingh   Feb-19-10 03:27 PM   #77 
  - ABC News - Joe Stack Hailed as Hero in American 'Patriot' Resurgence  RamboLiberal   Feb-19-10 05:50 PM   #80 
  - If Bin Laden were protesting taxes on 9/11, Fox News would have declared him a hero. n/t  Ian David   Feb-19-10 06:47 PM   #83 
 

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