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Thu Feb-18-10 11:38 AM
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| 60. Bit Tampa high-rise, flew across T. Bay from St. Pete. |
| -Small plane crashes into Austin office building |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Feb-18-10 10:41 AM |
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Yikes. |
Zynx |
Feb-18-10 10:45 AM |
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Not an accident. |
farmout rightarm |
Feb-18-10 10:49 AM |
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You are probably right it wasn't an accident, however, it looks like the damage isn't |
still_one |
Feb-18-10 10:51 AM |
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The video from the cable news isn't that great but it sure looks like more |
farmout rightarm |
Feb-18-10 10:57 AM |
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They are showing more video, and yes it does show significant damage. Thanks /nt |
still_one |
Feb-18-10 10:57 AM |
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I tend to agree. (20 year private pilot here) |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Feb-18-10 11:11 AM |
#15 |
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Bit Tampa high-rise, flew across T. Bay from St. Pete. |
SteveM |
Feb-18-10 11:38 AM |
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Now a credible (pilot) witness is saying the aircraft was under (full?) power when it crashed. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Feb-18-10 11:13 AM |
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MSNBC is saying the same. |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 11:15 AM |
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I was thinking the same thing. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Feb-18-10 11:16 AM |
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Sure, a perfectly reasonable presumption but just across the highway are |
farmout rightarm |
Feb-18-10 11:19 AM |
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You're assuming the pilot had full control of the craft. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Feb-18-10 11:23 AM |
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Apparently he did, just not of his brain or moral sense. |
panzerfaust |
Feb-18-10 04:44 PM |
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Yeah, but the media typically calls a Cessna Citation a small prop. |
Dr.Phool |
Feb-18-10 12:04 PM |
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Echelon? Hmmmm - Project Echelon? |
SpiralHawk |
Feb-18-10 10:51 AM |
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Actually there is an FBI office right next door /nt |
still_one |
Feb-18-10 10:51 AM |
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Watch out for the Rear Echelon, too |
Robb |
Feb-18-10 10:55 AM |
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Project Echelon is |
pjt7 |
Feb-18-10 02:57 PM |
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Have they identified who the unaccounted for Democrats on board were? nt |
RaleighNCDUer |
Feb-18-10 10:54 AM |
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Not funny nt |
Xipe Totec |
Feb-18-10 10:56 AM |
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No, it isn't. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Feb-18-10 11:11 AM |
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W took up flying again? |
AngryAmish |
Feb-18-10 10:57 AM |
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Either W or McCain |
Ishoutandscream2 |
Feb-18-10 11:30 AM |
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MSNBC just said the building housed the FBI, CIA, and IRS local offices |
krispos42 |
Feb-18-10 11:01 AM |
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Eyewitnesses say FBI in adjacent building, IRS in impacted building |
KeepItReal |
Feb-18-10 11:14 AM |
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Did the guy have tax troubles? |
aquart |
Feb-18-10 11:26 AM |
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Unknown |
KeepItReal |
Feb-18-10 11:42 AM |
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I just turned on local coverage |
Spacemom |
Feb-18-10 11:02 AM |
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i really hate to say this, and i really hope i'm wrong, |
8 track mind |
Feb-18-10 11:11 AM |
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please fill me in -- i've never been able to bring myself to read that. |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 11:14 AM |
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if you do read it, you won't sleep for days. |
8 track mind |
Feb-18-10 11:24 AM |
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i've gone on jags where i could hold my nose and do opposition research |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 11:27 AM |
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it's horrible |
8 track mind |
Feb-18-10 11:41 AM |
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Yep. I smell an angry rightwinger in this. |
kestrel91316 |
Feb-18-10 11:15 AM |
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Yep. I wonder what his freeper handle is? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Feb-18-10 11:17 AM |
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That was probably my first thought |
Carni |
Feb-18-10 11:57 AM |
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I smell someone who owed A LOT of taxes. nt |
WriteDown |
Feb-18-10 11:27 AM |
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Perhaps as a result of believing that income taxes are evil, unconstitutional, |
kestrel91316 |
Feb-18-10 11:32 AM |
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Or just someone who doesn't like to pay. Maybe a relative of Timmy? nt |
WriteDown |
Feb-18-10 11:33 AM |
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+1 for calling the shot! |
depakid |
Feb-18-10 05:28 PM |
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holy shit -- MSNBC is speculating that there might have been more explosives |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 11:13 AM |
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Oh, I think that's completely obvious. No way in hell 50 gallons of LL100 gas |
farmout rightarm |
Feb-18-10 11:17 AM |
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the fire seems to be spread... like spreeeeeeeeaaaaaad out across the building. |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 11:18 AM |
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So he did it on purpose and he meant it to hurt. Bastard. |
aquart |
Feb-18-10 11:29 AM |
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KEYE: Several witnesses report still seeing explosions after the plane hit |
sabra |
Feb-18-10 11:15 AM |
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they're saying only 2 people missing?? the way the video looks, i can't imagine just 2 |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 11:16 AM |
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FBI office not hit according to MSNBC. it's in another building across the parking lot. |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 11:17 AM |
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NTSB say the pilot set fire to his house before taking off!! |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 11:20 AM |
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That settles it. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Feb-18-10 11:21 AM |
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i'm afraid so. fuck. |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 11:23 AM |
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Yep. Sweetheart wasn't planning to return. |
aquart |
Feb-18-10 11:31 AM |
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Oh, this is funny: "Criminal or terrorist activity" not indicated, Homeland Security spokesman says |
aquart |
Feb-18-10 11:35 AM |
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oh no they DIDENT!! |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 11:44 AM |
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CNN says plane is stolen? |
aquart |
Feb-18-10 11:45 AM |
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Stealing a plane and flying it into a building isn't "criminal"? Huh. |
uppityperson |
Feb-18-10 11:52 AM |
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Sure, and McVeigh wasn't a terrorist either. Pure BS. Of course, |
24601 |
Feb-18-10 06:26 PM |
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MSNBC is saying two people were rescued from the house by a neighbor. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Feb-18-10 11:35 AM |
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The plot thickens. |
farmout rightarm |
Feb-18-10 11:21 AM |
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yeah -- this is a new twist in american-style massacres. |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 11:24 AM |
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Um, no it isn't. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Feb-18-10 11:34 AM |
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there was a kid in St Pete, but other than that, I've never heard of any...but |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 11:38 AM |
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There was Samuel Byck's failed attempt, the FL case... |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Feb-18-10 11:43 AM |
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I remember one just before 9/11 in NH |
janet118 |
Feb-18-10 12:14 PM |
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Now you know it's tax season. nt |
WriteDown |
Feb-18-10 11:23 AM |
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News 8 Austin: The building mostly houses IRS offices |
sabra |
Feb-18-10 11:29 AM |
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Glad I sent my return to the California office |
krispos42 |
Feb-18-10 11:44 AM |
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we should see pancaking and a collapse soon |
IScreamSundays |
Feb-18-10 11:31 AM |
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... |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 11:32 AM |
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I shouldn't laugh.... |
riderinthestorm |
Feb-18-10 11:35 AM |
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i know -- shame on me. |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 11:41 AM |
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The stupid have a reason to come out today eh? |
snooper2 |
Feb-18-10 11:41 AM |
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Joseph Andrew Stack -- and his wife and 12-year old daughter were rescued from the house!! |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 11:33 AM |
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Glad they're OK |
alcibiades_mystery |
Feb-18-10 11:36 AM |
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so who flew the plane? |
sabra |
Feb-18-10 11:37 AM |
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I think they believe that the he stole the plane |
maddezmom |
Feb-18-10 11:41 AM |
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weird -- MSNBC just said that he "stole" the plane (or, it might have been the local remote) |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 11:43 AM |
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this Stack guy supposedly lives in CA...this isn't adding up. |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 12:12 PM |
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He tried to burn it with them in it? BASTARD. |
aquart |
Feb-18-10 11:47 AM |
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yeah -- looks that way. |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 12:07 PM |
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Cheney is probably getting his rocks off to all of this |
Ishoutandscream2 |
Feb-18-10 11:36 AM |
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That will cool when it turns out to be a Freeper/Teabagger/McVeigh type. nt |
onehandle |
Feb-18-10 11:54 AM |
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nope ... not cool no matter what. . .n/t |
annabanana |
Feb-18-10 11:58 AM |
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May have been trying for an expressway in the area. |
SteveM |
Feb-18-10 11:37 AM |
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The Pilot Did this on purpose |
Old Vet |
Feb-18-10 11:40 AM |
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CNN states authorities will be releasing identity of pilot soon. |
Jefferson23 |
Feb-18-10 11:46 AM |
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Joesph Andrew Stack................. |
Old Vet |
Feb-18-10 11:48 AM |
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looks like Stack is the owner...here's the FAA registration |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 12:06 PM |
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How the heck did he steal the plane and get that far without anyone stopping him or alerting others? |
panAmerican |
Feb-18-10 11:52 AM |
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how far was it and how do you know no one was alerted? |
onenote |
Feb-18-10 11:56 AM |
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If he took off from an uncontrolled airport, and filed no flight plan. |
Dr.Phool |
Feb-18-10 12:14 PM |
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KXAN: Joseph Andrew Stack set fire to his home with wife and daughter inside. Likely suspect who cra |
sabra |
Feb-18-10 11:49 AM |
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Oh my God, his wife and daughter too....horrendous! |
Jefferson23 |
Feb-18-10 12:14 PM |
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Any word on the wife and daughter or injured/missing people from the IRS building? |
GreenPartyVoter |
Feb-18-10 12:25 PM |
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Just to throw some more idle speculation into the mix- |
hedgehog |
Feb-18-10 11:50 AM |
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Made me think of what happened in Iowa City a couple years ago |
47of74 |
Feb-18-10 11:59 AM |
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It's terroism... |
liberal N proud |
Feb-18-10 11:59 AM |
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so, law enforcement is saying now that it's intentional, and possibly aimed at govt offices |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 12:00 PM |
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This is across the highway from where I work -- we've been watching all morning |
dave29 |
Feb-18-10 12:02 PM |
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Teabagger |
Steely_Dan |
Feb-18-10 12:06 PM |
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You sure about that? Austin is deep blue. See post 96. nt |
WriteDown |
Feb-18-10 12:30 PM |
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The guy is from Lincoln, CA according to the info above. |
LeftyMom |
Feb-18-10 08:52 PM |
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MSNBC finally saying Stack owns a Piper Cherokee...not sure it's the same one...still saying |
nashville_brook |
Feb-18-10 12:21 PM |
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Here's the suicide note |
notesdev |
Feb-18-10 12:24 PM |
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Wow, that's a long one. nt |
WriteDown |
Feb-18-10 12:30 PM |
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Wow.... |
alittlelark |
Feb-18-10 12:34 PM |
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Wow.... |
Steely_Dan |
Feb-18-10 12:44 PM |
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holy damn...has that been verified as real? |
Blue_Tires |
Feb-18-10 12:49 PM |
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MSM is now reporting it as well. NT |
Clio the Leo |
Feb-18-10 12:57 PM |
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An articulate asshole. |
bitchkitty |
Feb-18-10 12:55 PM |
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Well That Certainly Crosses |
On the Road |
Feb-18-10 12:57 PM |
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This read reminds me of the character in Falling Down. |
Jefferson23 |
Feb-18-10 12:57 PM |
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i thought that was a very underrated movie... |
Blue_Tires |
Feb-18-10 12:58 PM |
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I guess it came off as too far fetched for some, until you read a note like this man wrote. |
Jefferson23 |
Feb-18-10 01:02 PM |
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Yep. "How did I become the bad guy here?" |
RaleighNCDUer |
Feb-18-10 01:45 PM |
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Sounds like a Teabagger Terrorist to me. |
tinrobot |
Feb-18-10 01:09 PM |
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Not exactly the raving lunatic I was expecting. |
Arctic Dave |
Feb-18-10 01:30 PM |
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Girlfriend/psychologist saw this and immediately said this is a psychotic act. nt |
WriteDown |
Feb-18-10 02:04 PM |
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Her is a more general statement. Water is wet. |
Arctic Dave |
Feb-18-10 02:44 PM |
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She is not a general statement. :) nt |
WriteDown |
Feb-18-10 02:46 PM |
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Touche. :) |
Arctic Dave |
Feb-18-10 02:52 PM |
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Now thats a rant!!!! |
mstinamotorcity |
Feb-18-10 07:06 PM |
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somebody who hates the IRS.... |
fascisthunter |
Feb-18-10 12:42 PM |
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Because hating the IRS is new.... |
WriteDown |
Feb-18-10 12:43 PM |
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Joe the pilot. nt |
thereismore |
Feb-18-10 01:06 PM |
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"Wait a minute. I'm the bad-guy here?" |
Iggo |
Feb-18-10 01:11 PM |
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Well, the Teabaggers have their Martyr now.......... |
Burma Jones |
Feb-18-10 01:22 PM |
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They'll claim he was one of "ours," I'll bet. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Feb-18-10 01:26 PM |
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Name removed |
Feb-18-10 01:34 PM |
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Catholic, software engineer who lived in California, and then moved to Austin? |
WriteDown |
Feb-18-10 02:06 PM |
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Very Lame |
pjt7 |
Feb-18-10 03:03 PM |
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Uh.... |
WriteDown |
Feb-18-10 03:05 PM |
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my bad. |
pjt7 |
Feb-18-10 03:11 PM |
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I didn't say he meant to be a Teabagger Martyr |
Burma Jones |
Feb-18-10 03:56 PM |
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In an EXTREMELY right wing part of California. |
LeftyMom |
Feb-18-10 08:55 PM |
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If the authorities dig a little deepr into this guy |
bluevoter4life |
Feb-18-10 01:23 PM |
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Feb-18-10 01:39 PM |
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Meh.... |
WriteDown |
Feb-18-10 02:07 PM |
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Why didn't the building collapse in its own footprint? N/T |
coyote |
Feb-18-10 02:20 PM |
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When this building collapses in it's own footprint |
pjt7 |
Feb-18-10 03:05 PM |
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Too bad he died before we could torture him. n/t |
Lil Missy |
Feb-18-10 02:27 PM |
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Chief of Police said they haven't found the pilot's body. |
VanW |
Feb-18-10 05:10 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Feb-18-10 05:52 PM |
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"Two bodies recovered at crash site, officials say" |
VanW |
Feb-18-10 06:28 PM |
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Guess I know where the Bush tax records were kept. |
Yeahyeah |
Feb-18-10 06:45 PM |
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Well at least he wasn't a zombie |
KillCapitalism |
Feb-18-10 08:23 PM |
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I read Joe Stacks entire note....read it.... |
unkachuck |
Feb-18-10 10:11 PM |
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training |
pugilist929 |
Feb-18-10 10:56 PM |
#147 |
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Nice post |
saigon68 |
Feb-19-10 05:30 AM |
#152 |
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Amazing, the building is still standing! |
Ter |
Feb-19-10 12:41 AM |
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It's a small plane. |
LisaL |
Feb-19-10 12:47 AM |
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And a far smaller building |
Ter |
Feb-19-10 12:58 AM |
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Rhetoric Tragically Transformed Into Reality |
panzerfaust |
Feb-19-10 05:26 AM |
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My wonderful area. |
slvrthrn |
Feb-19-10 06:25 AM |
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