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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 01:52 AM
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44. Two separate issues:
1. Should folks take Wilder's word on matters Democratic?

I take it your answer to that wouuld be no. Mine probably would be the same.

2. Has Kaine done a great job so far as chair of the Democratic Party (aka DNC).

You did not address that. My answer, however would be no.

As far as Dennis K., you were the first and, so far, only one on this thread to mention him. Mostly everyone, however, mentioned Dean.

Thing is, the Democratic Party was never intended to be center right or corporatist (nor the Obama Party); and a lot of us like the Democratic, populist wing of the Democratic Party. That is not specific to either Kucinich or Dean.
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  -Former Va. governor urges DNC chairman's firing tonysam  Feb-09-10 06:31 PM   #0 
  - he is so right  Bumblebee   Feb-09-10 06:34 PM   #1 
  - Yup  havocmom   Feb-09-10 06:35 PM   #3 
  - That is the nicest way to put it. It's just the wrong job for Kaine. And, it's costing us.  thunder rising   Feb-09-10 06:34 PM   #2 
  - Kaine isn't suited for the job.  dmr   Feb-09-10 06:41 PM   #4 
  - I agree.  Barbara2423   Feb-09-10 09:51 PM   #30 
  - That's right.  lsewpershad   Feb-10-10 03:20 PM   #73 
  - Bring back Dr. Dean...pronto...  movonne   Feb-09-10 06:45 PM   #5 
  - BRING BACK DEAN!  LaydeeBug   Feb-09-10 06:46 PM   #6 
  - +10e100! n/t  RoccoR5955   Feb-09-10 08:19 PM   #15 
  - +1  harmonicon   Feb-09-10 08:23 PM   #16 
  - If not Dean..Jim Hightower!  Ken Burch   Feb-09-10 09:16 PM   #22 
  - Jim Hightower is not a loyal Democrat  Freddie Stubbs   Feb-10-10 12:53 PM   #62 
     - Nor is Moore  KamaAina   Feb-10-10 01:05 PM   #63 
     - Michael spent the last days of the 2000 campaign begging Ralph to GET OUT of the race  Ken Burch   Feb-10-10 03:12 PM   #72 
     - Jim Hightower was repeatedly elected to statewide office AS a Democrat  Ken Burch   Feb-10-10 03:10 PM   #71 
     - Amen to that. AFAIK, he's still an advisor to Kinky.  tbyg52   Feb-11-10 05:21 PM   #88 
  - Aw, who needs Dean and a strategy of 50 states?  breadandwine   Feb-09-10 10:25 PM   #33 
  - "Just because DLCers can't count to 50..." LOL  Ishoutandscream2   Feb-10-10 11:11 AM   #53 
  - Oh, so very many dittos -- Love Dean -- nt  D-Lee   Feb-09-10 11:35 PM   #38 
  - BRING BACK DEAN NOW ! ! !  proud patriot   Feb-10-10 12:17 AM   #40 
  - Times 10 Get rid of him and Sham Emanuel  sallyseven   Feb-10-10 01:12 PM   #65 
  - Thank Kaine for Scott Brown.  TheCowsCameHome   Feb-09-10 07:16 PM   #7 
  - Thank Martha Coakley and her utter, utter incompetence for Scott Brown.  Arkana   Feb-09-10 09:24 PM   #25 
  - True enough about Coakley. But  TheCowsCameHome   Feb-09-10 09:28 PM   #26 
  - Also the Dem heavy hitters jumped on the Coakley bandwagon in the primary  KamaAina   Feb-10-10 01:06 PM   #64 
  - So the DNC isnt involved in the primary races? If true, seems a terrible mistake. Who knows who  rhett o rick   Feb-10-10 04:37 PM   #77 
     - Considering most of the people in Washington DIDN'T back  Arkana   Feb-10-10 05:39 PM   #80 
        - I have read both good and bad re. Coakley. But that's beside the point.  rhett o rick   Feb-10-10 05:55 PM   #82 
  - Thank Max Baucus (and Harry Reid and Rahm E) for screwing up HCR, turning off the base  leveymg   Feb-10-10 12:27 PM   #60 
  - Bring back Dean!  Wizard777   Feb-09-10 07:17 PM   #8 
  - Wilder is right  HipChick   Feb-09-10 07:23 PM   #9 
  - Buy that Wilder man a beer!  burning rain   Feb-09-10 07:24 PM   #10 
  - Massachusetts and Va had good, but ineffective candidates running on the Dem side  wisteria   Feb-09-10 07:29 PM   #11 
  - ??? from Va.  sulphurdunn   Feb-10-10 01:14 PM   #66 
  - Getting rid of Dean, big mistake.  Jefferson23   Feb-09-10 07:29 PM   #12 
  - No one got rid of Howard Dean  euphoria12leo   Feb-10-10 12:09 PM   #58 
     - He stepped down as a result of the friction between himself and Rahm,  Jefferson23   Feb-10-10 01:29 PM   #69 
  - Seconded, or Twenty-Fifthed . . .  DarthDem   Feb-09-10 08:07 PM   #13 
  - Coakley's campaign claimed she disappeared after the primary bc she had to fund raise. If true,  No Elephants   Feb-10-10 01:19 AM   #43 
  - NJ would have easily been won with a different candidate  tabbycat31   Feb-10-10 11:22 PM   #86 
  - DIdn't Wilder refuse to back Creigh Deeds?  Wabbajack_   Feb-09-10 08:13 PM   #14 
  - yup....  Blue_Tires   Feb-09-10 08:36 PM   #17 
  - Deeds ruined that campaign all by himself  AspenRose   Feb-10-10 12:06 AM   #39 
     - it was a bad campaign, and Deeds probably would have lost anyway, BUT  Blue_Tires   Feb-10-10 07:31 AM   #47 
  - Hush! Keep your steenkin' facts out of this!  SoxFan   Feb-09-10 09:35 PM   #28 
  - HALLELUJAH!! Someone with Democratic cred finally said it. Thank you, Mr. Wilder. nt  bertman   Feb-09-10 08:38 PM   #18 
  - Democratic Cred  bottomofthehill   Feb-10-10 12:51 AM   #41 
  - He has cred with me (I'm a Democrat) if he says that Kaine is worthless, which he is.  bertman   Feb-10-10 11:56 AM   #55 
  - Kaine is not doing a good job, but  bottomofthehill   Feb-10-10 07:25 PM   #84 
     - That is a classic Democratic response to someone telling the truth about another Dem.  bertman   Feb-10-10 09:50 PM   #85 
  - Yeah, Wilder doesn't have all that much Dem cred. He basically looks  Nay   Feb-10-10 03:25 PM   #74 
     - I voted for him, but sadly in hindsight, that is the way I feel about him  bottomofthehill   Feb-10-10 07:24 PM   #83 
  - Someone with 'Democratic cred' would have backed the Democratic nominee for Governor  Freddie Stubbs   Feb-10-10 01:19 PM   #67 
  - I could recommend an excellent replacement :)  SlingBlade   Feb-09-10 08:58 PM   #19 
  - Kaine was an awful pick to replace Dean, but Wilder shouldn't be throwing stones, either.  w4rma   Feb-09-10 08:59 PM   #20 
  - If you want to destroy the Democratic Party, appointments like Kaine will do it -- !!!  defendandprotect   Feb-09-10 09:01 PM   #21 
  - Wilder is the problem, not Tim Kaine  SoxFan   Feb-09-10 09:18 PM   #23 
  - I was about to bring those up  Blue_Tires   Feb-09-10 09:23 PM   #24 
  - He's a political whore  SoxFan   Feb-09-10 09:32 PM   #27 
     - Two separate issues:  No Elephants   Feb-10-10 01:52 AM   #44 
  - The Republicans won the closest gubernatorial election in Virginia's history? Didn't Deeds lose by  Dave From Canada   Feb-09-10 10:18 PM   #32 
     - The poster thought it was 18 votes.  harkadog   Feb-09-10 10:31 PM   #34 
  - Good on him! Kaine has been ineffective. Just another DLCer supporting poor candidates.  Liberal_Stalwart71   Feb-09-10 09:42 PM   #29 
  - Hell yes. Bring back Howard.  proud2BlibKansan   Feb-09-10 10:00 PM   #31 
  - Wilder is delusional if he thinks replacing a figurehead will change anything  Hippo_Tron   Feb-09-10 11:01 PM   #35 
  - So your message is that Axelrod is the man behind the curtain?  davidpdx   Feb-12-10 07:58 AM   #89 
  - Can DLC Kaine and his evil eyebrow. n/t  PHIMG   Feb-09-10 11:01 PM   #36 
  - We all scream for Howard Dean. nt  mistertrickster   Feb-09-10 11:03 PM   #37 
  - K & R  democracy1st   Feb-10-10 01:02 AM   #42 
  - Howard Dean was not just better - he was INFINITELY better  slay   Feb-10-10 02:08 AM   #45 
  - Wilder was an outstandindg governor. k*r  autorank   Feb-10-10 04:03 AM   #46 
  - Wilder wouldn't be angling for the job would he? While I'm no huge  24601   Feb-10-10 07:46 AM   #48 
  - no; he's too old  Blue_Tires   Feb-10-10 08:58 AM   #49 
     - Thanks n/t  24601   Feb-11-10 08:25 AM   #87 
  - Kaine seems to be a colorless nothing, at best.  freddie mertz   Feb-10-10 10:23 AM   #50 
  - Howard Dean Was All Over The TV - Kaine Nada  otohara   Feb-10-10 10:46 AM   #51 
  - Has anyone seen Kaine since he took the job?  izzybeans   Feb-10-10 11:08 AM   #52 
  - The first time I'd seen him was last week at the DNC Winter Mtg.  quiet.american   Feb-10-10 11:54 AM   #54 
  - Once i think  euphoria12leo   Feb-10-10 12:15 PM   #59 
  - I am also distinctly underwhelmed and enormously frustrated w/Kaine.  quiet.american   Feb-10-10 12:01 PM   #56 
  - While we are at it, dump Rahm Emanuel, too!  FunMe   Feb-10-10 12:04 PM   #57 
  - I think John Edwards is available...  rem3006   Feb-10-10 12:47 PM   #61 
  - the entire DLC should leave public office and move where their heart is: K Street.  yurbud   Feb-10-10 01:26 PM   #68 
  - He is correct!  Earl Grey   Feb-10-10 02:10 PM   #70 
  - welcome to the site!  Blue_Tires   Feb-10-10 03:37 PM   #76 
  - I live in Virginia, and I have the utmost respect for Tim Kaine. I honestly do  spicegal   Feb-10-10 03:36 PM   #75 
  - Well, that's gonna be an uncomfortable governors breakfast.  progressoid   Feb-10-10 05:05 PM   #78 
  - Kaine doing two jobs at once  AnnieBW   Feb-10-10 05:20 PM   #79 
  - Kaine has been completely useless in the job.  asdjrocky   Feb-10-10 05:54 PM   #81 
 

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