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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 09:52 PM
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123. Incarcerate him for the rest of his life.
Period.

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  -U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alphabet' The abyss  Feb-07-10 03:59 PM   #0 
  - Where was the mother?  Sanity Claws   Feb-07-10 04:01 PM   #1 
  - Not if she was there and allowed it to happen, she shouldn't  havocmom   Feb-07-10 04:04 PM   #7 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-07-10 09:26 PM   #118 
  - Charge her too  bkohatlanta   Feb-07-10 10:07 PM   #126 
  - Not if she was there  AlbertCat   Feb-07-10 11:24 PM   #141 
  - The Mother is in Kansas............  rucognizant   Feb-08-10 03:15 AM   #156 
  - More info? If a court awarded custody to father, mother must have been a problem too  havocmom   Feb-08-10 09:23 AM   #172 
  - article says she lives in Kansas  BonnieJW   Feb-08-10 09:37 AM   #177 
     - I was thinking the same thing  swilton   Feb-08-10 10:19 AM   #183 
  - In Kansas, apparently  varelse   Feb-07-10 04:29 PM   #23 
  - The mother is the one who called the police....................  vegiegals   Feb-07-10 04:38 PM   #27 
     - Wrong.  intheflow   Feb-07-10 07:29 PM   #91 
     - ah, yes, I see it is the girlfriend. Thanks for the correction. But, for  vegiegals   Feb-08-10 06:22 AM   #159 
        - Agreed!  intheflow   Feb-08-10 10:03 AM   #181 
     - probably one of four possibilities  yava   Feb-07-10 10:00 PM   #125 
     - 5)  WhoIsNumberNone   Feb-07-10 10:33 PM   #130 
     - 6)  lbrtbell   Feb-08-10 09:18 AM   #169 
     - I know you're not excusing his behavior...  CoffeeCat   Feb-08-10 10:20 AM   #184 
     - He should be shot.  Deep13   Feb-08-10 11:11 AM   #192 
     - Another possibility  Enthusiast   Feb-08-10 12:30 PM   #200 
     - Welcome to DU, vegiegals!  Suich   Feb-08-10 01:14 AM   #152 
     - thanks. hope I will.  vegiegals   Feb-08-10 03:52 PM   #212 
     - She better learn the ABCs!  Enthusiast   Feb-08-10 12:26 PM   #198 
  - Please tell me this is untrue. I have a 4 year old. They are notoriously inconsistent  Jennicut   Feb-07-10 04:01 PM   #2 
  - Not trying to answer you question, just want to say you are right  activa8tr   Feb-07-10 04:54 PM   #33 
  - A year in prison? The guy should be castrated!!  Harry Monroe   Feb-07-10 11:03 PM   #138 
     - I don't think prison or castration will help with memorizing the alphabet...  jberryhill   Feb-08-10 12:01 PM   #196 
        - No it won't. But it will ensure he'll never be able to father children ever again!!  Harry Monroe   Feb-08-10 04:35 PM   #213 
  - I was too tough with my second son about math questions when he was 12  yava   Feb-07-10 10:54 PM   #132 
     - I'm sure it was nothing compared to some of the sick shit I've read recently (including  Lorien   Feb-07-10 11:39 PM   #143 
     - hamster  karmkay   Feb-08-10 09:46 AM   #180 
        - ??? I wasn't making a comparison between the OP and the hamster story  Lorien   Feb-08-10 01:37 PM   #204 
     - And I'm sure it didn't do anything to further his interest in math, either. n/t  pnwmom   Feb-08-10 12:43 AM   #149 
     - no of course it had the opposite effect  yava   Feb-08-10 06:03 AM   #158 
        - I assume you've told him how sorry you are?  pnwmom   Feb-08-10 06:07 PM   #215 
     - Have you apologized?  CoffeeCat   Feb-08-10 10:57 AM   #190 
        - Apology can lead to forgiveness, and the combination is a very powerful healing force.  GliderGuider   Feb-08-10 11:07 AM   #191 
  - Sicko n/t  Laura902   Feb-07-10 04:02 PM   #3 
  - Yes. Very very mentally ill. That poor little girl.  Demoiselle   Feb-07-10 05:59 PM   #54 
  - Oh my god.  ellie   Feb-07-10 04:02 PM   #4 
  - 'Can-do' mind set, bizarre cultural 'norms', tacit approval of torture, drugs?  havocmom   Feb-07-10 04:03 PM   #5 
  - My very thought. what have we created?  BrklynLiberal   Feb-07-10 04:05 PM   #8 
  - This is a tradgedy. Even the dad, how far from normal have they pushed him? How many tours?  thunder rising   Feb-07-10 04:15 PM   #16 
  - That's something I think about when I hear stories like this -  truedelphi   Feb-07-10 06:53 PM   #73 
     - You always write the perfect responses  Tumbulu   Feb-07-10 08:25 PM   #103 
        - Thank you. I've had a long time to think abt this one.  truedelphi   Feb-08-10 01:07 PM   #202 
  - We would likely be horrified to know all the things that go on behind closed doors  marshall   Feb-07-10 04:18 PM   #17 
  - My first thought was echoed in the body of your post  Cirque du So-What   Feb-07-10 04:08 PM   #12 
  - pick up a history book  CountAllVotes   Feb-07-10 08:52 PM   #109 
     - Aw, you're just trying to scare us with that truth pertains nonsense.  pundaint   Feb-08-10 02:42 PM   #207 
  - Nothing they didn't already do for the past 100 years...  DutchLiberal   Feb-07-10 06:24 PM   #62 
  - I call BS on that. Psy-ops much more effective anymore  havocmom   Feb-07-10 07:20 PM   #87 
  - We've not done this to the troops  pipoman   Feb-07-10 06:29 PM   #64 
  - please tell me this child will never see that man again/nt  Mari333   Feb-07-10 04:04 PM   #6 
  - That's the easy solution. The real solution is therapy until he finds his way back from the mental  thunder rising   Feb-07-10 04:19 PM   #18 
  - More mental health care for military is extremely urgent.  uppityperson   Feb-07-10 04:30 PM   #24 
  - Sadly, she probably loves him very much. I've seen kids who have been sexually and/or physically  No Elephants   Feb-07-10 07:01 PM   #75 
     - At age 4, you'd assume that whatever was happening was SUPPOSED to happen  Ken Burch   Feb-07-10 11:20 PM   #140 
  - Cheney says it's not torture, so he should only get a light sentence  bluestateguy   Feb-07-10 04:05 PM   #9 
  - Cheney would give this guy a medal  Betty   Feb-07-10 04:07 PM   #10 
  - the nuclear family strikes again (n/t)  bread_and_roses   Feb-07-10 04:08 PM   #11 
  - But whatever you do, don't let gays adopt!!  lbrtbell   Feb-08-10 09:23 AM   #173 
  - Kee-rist.  Berry Cool   Feb-07-10 04:09 PM   #13 
  - Worse, she'll fear relationships, loving someone, etc. I doubt this was the only time he's been  No Elephants   Feb-07-10 07:12 PM   #82 
     - My daughter, for some reason, was afraid of baths  PSzymeczek   Feb-07-10 09:55 PM   #124 
  - The Daily Fail, people . . .  enlightenment   Feb-07-10 04:11 PM   #14 
  - It does appear in a local paper too  muriel_volestrangler   Feb-07-10 04:21 PM   #20 
  - Thanks for finding that one!  The abyss   Feb-07-10 04:28 PM   #22 
  - Hello? The posters tracked down more sources for you  Bluebear   Feb-07-10 06:31 PM   #66 
  - Hello? Perhaps if the OP had done that the first time,  enlightenment   Feb-07-10 08:04 PM   #99 
  - lol  Bluebear   Feb-07-10 10:18 PM   #127 
  - And thanks to them...actually Enlightenment is right to be sceptical about info from the Daily Mail  LeftishBrit   Feb-08-10 09:27 AM   #174 
  - Well, the Associated Press isn't known for making things up.  Jamastiene   Feb-07-10 06:53 PM   #72 
  - The AP does make things up  Alcibiades   Feb-08-10 08:46 AM   #166 
  - Because the other news org's think waterboarding is fine?  Doctor_J   Feb-08-10 02:41 PM   #206 
  - Sad  90-percent   Feb-07-10 04:11 PM   #15 
  - Oh, I can connect it, all right.  Berry Cool   Feb-07-10 04:33 PM   #25 
  - Many Americans can so comprehend just fine. We have Vets even from WWII yet.  WinkyDink   Feb-07-10 06:14 PM   #58 
  - I know two WWII vets who came back and were "never themselves" again.  SharonAnn   Feb-08-10 02:52 PM   #208 
  - This guy was never deployed.  AtheistCrusader   Feb-07-10 08:04 PM   #100 
  - I'd have to know about his past before making judgment  lbrtbell   Feb-08-10 09:30 AM   #176 
  - The guy is fucked up, and we are making plenty more.  Gman2   Feb-07-10 04:19 PM   #19 
  - And conservatives want the people responsible for torture to get off scot-free  ck4829   Feb-07-10 04:21 PM   #21 
  - Turn him loose with a tattoo on his face saying what he did. (n/t)  Iggo   Feb-07-10 04:36 PM   #26 
  - This is a side effect of sending our young people off to kill Iraqi's and Afghani's. nt  rhett o rick   Feb-07-10 04:40 PM   #28 
  - forgive them, for they know not, what they do. You are right. Do we want to enjoy pointing  Gman2   Feb-07-10 05:25 PM   #39 
  - Teach troops "positive thinking" rather than treating them for PTSD?  uppityperson   Feb-07-10 05:44 PM   #48 
     - I think it was intended to mean the opposite. nt  rhett o rick   Feb-07-10 07:00 PM   #74 
        - Thank you. Reread it and I was wrong. Sorry. Thanks for catching me.  uppityperson   Feb-07-10 07:05 PM   #81 
           - no prob. I read it that way first also. How are you uppity?  rhett o rick   Feb-07-10 07:16 PM   #84 
              - The economy has struck here.  uppityperson   Feb-07-10 09:40 PM   #120 
  - All kinds of people abuse children  LiberalEsto   Feb-07-10 05:30 PM   #42 
     - I certainly do not disagree. One way to help reduce domestic violence is to stop sending our young  rhett o rick   Feb-07-10 07:05 PM   #80 
  - Makes we wonder why his little girl is "terrified" of water  yellerpup   Feb-07-10 04:45 PM   #29 
  - Well, a 4 year old *should* be able to recite the alphabet  alcibiades_mystery   Feb-07-10 04:50 PM   #30 
  - Why? n/t  kiranon   Feb-07-10 05:06 PM   #34 
  - so you are saying this sick individual was justified?  niyad   Feb-07-10 05:14 PM   #36 
     - Oy vey  alcibiades_mystery   Feb-07-10 05:28 PM   #40 
     - The pious know no sarcasm.  lutherj   Feb-07-10 06:01 PM   #55 
     - Sarcasm is tricky on the Internets. They should have at least given the benefit of the doubt. nt  rhett o rick   Feb-07-10 07:19 PM   #86 
     - asking questions for clarity is about piety?  niyad   Feb-07-10 08:44 PM   #107 
     - did you see the question mark at the end? you know, like the one ending the previous question?  niyad   Feb-07-10 08:40 PM   #106 
     - Do you not get the TONE here? Look inside the post.  WinkyDink   Feb-07-10 06:16 PM   #60 
        - since I actually know people who think that way, I was simply asking  niyad   Feb-07-10 08:51 PM   #108 
  - Dittohead, no doubt. And Beck/Palin fan, too.  Faygo Kid   Feb-07-10 04:51 PM   #31 
  - If a story sounds too absurd and provocative to be true...  pettypace   Feb-07-10 04:53 PM   #32 
  - Ever work in CPS?  AlienGirl   Feb-07-10 05:19 PM   #37 
  - That certainly makes for a cleaner, simpler reality, I suppose. (nt)  Posteritatis   Feb-07-10 05:22 PM   #38 
  - The guy admitted doing it. I suppose you think it's ok to TORTURE  kestrel91316   Feb-07-10 05:38 PM   #45 
  - Well, the Associated Press isn't known for making things up.  Jamastiene   Feb-07-10 06:50 PM   #71 
  - Unfortunately, extreme child abuse is quite true -- although hopefully rare.  pnwmom   Feb-07-10 07:20 PM   #88 
  - Rare? Sometimes I wonder.  GliderGuider   Feb-08-10 05:07 PM   #214 
  - So for the record do you think THIS story is true? n/t  Realityhack   Feb-08-10 02:55 PM   #209 
  - these lyrics popped into my brain  GinaMaria   Feb-07-10 05:12 PM   #35 
  - so he isn't even an overseas veteran; PTSD can't be used as an excuse.  provis99   Feb-07-10 05:29 PM   #41 
  - I find this very hard to believe. Will wait for verification.  harun   Feb-07-10 05:32 PM   #43 
  - see post #20  Maine-ah   Feb-07-10 05:41 PM   #47 
  - Here.  uppityperson   Feb-07-10 05:45 PM   #50 
  - Well? Was it verified enough for you?  Bluebear   Feb-07-10 06:27 PM   #63 
     - Another link:  Jamastiene   Feb-07-10 07:02 PM   #76 
  - Please telle me  cindyperry2009   Feb-07-10 05:38 PM   #44 
  - Oh my God. How could someone do that to a child?  spicegal   Feb-07-10 05:39 PM   #46 
  - Jesus FUCK - - I'm fucking speechless...  Taverner   Feb-07-10 05:44 PM   #49 
  - Hey bush and cheney... this is all in your lap.  truthisfreedom   Feb-07-10 05:47 PM   #51 
  - who could imagine? Dick Cheney? would he be proud? did the daughter  nightrain   Feb-07-10 05:50 PM   #52 
  - These are the kind of psychopaths the military encourages & has doing it's interrogations  GreenTea   Feb-07-10 05:51 PM   #53 
  - if the cons are to be believed, ....  veganlush   Feb-07-10 06:01 PM   #56 
  - Plain old fashioned child abuse,& shd be prosecuted as such. Some abusers have always used torture  Hekate   Feb-07-10 06:12 PM   #57 
  - That is the question I have. Why did he get custody?  jwirr   Feb-07-10 06:38 PM   #68 
  - You can get custody away from the mother if she's a drug user.  pnwmom   Feb-07-10 07:22 PM   #89 
     - Or if you divorce her while she is so ill from cancer that she can't provide care, then move  AlienGirl   Feb-08-10 12:31 AM   #146 
        - True enough. nt  pnwmom   Feb-08-10 12:41 AM   #148 
  - Child abuse - but this time with a lack of creativity some abusers employ  stray cat   Feb-07-10 06:15 PM   #59 
  - THIS is the result of abusive behavior -- insanity!!  defendandprotect   Feb-07-10 06:21 PM   #61 
  - Calm down people...  heliarc   Feb-07-10 06:30 PM   #65 
  - I'm sure he did it in 'good faith'  Solly Mack   Feb-07-10 06:33 PM   #67 
  - He probably thought it was "what Jesus would do".  Ken Burch   Feb-07-10 07:02 PM   #77 
  - Sanity break  anachro1   Feb-07-10 06:40 PM   #69 
  - delete  John Kerry VonErich   Feb-07-10 06:46 PM   #70 
  - uh-oh! PTSD!! n/t  Fire1   Feb-07-10 07:02 PM   #78 
  - Not necisarily, it could just be regular old child abuse.  Realityhack   Feb-08-10 03:03 PM   #211 
  - But his guvinmint said it was not torture to do this  benld74   Feb-07-10 07:03 PM   #79 
  - this guy should spend the rest of his life in prison. nt  DesertFlower   Feb-07-10 07:14 PM   #83 
  - Same guy had his Kevlar helmut on threatening to break windows.  caseymoz   Feb-07-10 07:43 PM   #94 
  - I always tell right-wingers this when they defend torture.  burning rain   Feb-07-10 07:17 PM   #85 
  - Interesting that severalsimply decide it's either not true or probably not true, without  No Elephants   Feb-07-10 07:23 PM   #90 
  - And another friggin thing about a PTSD soldier, Thats not classic waterboarding.  Gman2   Feb-07-10 07:37 PM   #92 
  - Left for war, came back with a monster in his head.  caseymoz   Feb-07-10 07:40 PM   #93 
  - Dear judge who ruled "daddy" should have custody -  MrMickeysMom   Feb-07-10 07:57 PM   #95 
  - Where's Lynn and Dick Cheney to defend this?  AngryOldDem   Feb-07-10 07:58 PM   #96 
  - How is pushing his daughter's face into a bowl of water like waterboarding? This isn't clear to me.  Brickbat   Feb-07-10 07:59 PM   #97 
  - Here is an article with more detail about what he and his girlfriend did.  Jamastiene   Feb-07-10 08:20 PM   #102 
  - Thanks for that.  Brickbat   Feb-08-10 10:05 AM   #182 
  - You need to look into what waterboarding is then..obviously...  winyanstaz   Feb-07-10 09:06 PM   #113 
  - fucking damn it all to hell. look what we have become.  Soylent Brice   Feb-07-10 08:02 PM   #98 
  - Ha ha ha just a frat prank! No harm done, ha ha ha. Oh, what a card!  Chulanowa   Feb-07-10 08:19 PM   #101 
  - This guy is sick, no question.  burrfoot   Feb-07-10 08:27 PM   #104 
  - "admitted....  unkachuck   Feb-07-10 08:33 PM   #105 
  - We will all pay the wages war for decades to come.  Politicub   Feb-07-10 08:53 PM   #110 
  - Oh that poor baby!  winyanstaz   Feb-07-10 08:56 PM   #111 
  - He was probably teaching her this alphabet.  RoccoR5955   Feb-07-10 09:04 PM   #112 
  - WTF!!??  MUAD_DIB   Feb-07-10 09:08 PM   #114 
  - What a scumbag!  JVS   Feb-07-10 09:11 PM   #115 
  - What the fuck?  Initech   Feb-07-10 09:16 PM   #116 
  - This is what war does to people.  Radical Activist   Feb-07-10 09:21 PM   #117 
  - Not sure if this is PTSD or blatant sadism, but its abuse in either case.  D23MIURG23   Feb-07-10 09:38 PM   #119 
  - Let's call it what it is.  PSzymeczek   Feb-07-10 09:48 PM   #121 
  - I totally agree. n/t  Shining Jack   Feb-07-10 10:39 PM   #131 
  - But. . .but. . .but this isn't torture. Fixed Noise told me so  Suji to Seoul   Feb-07-10 09:50 PM   #122 
  - Incarcerate him for the rest of his life.  TheWatcher   Feb-07-10 09:52 PM   #123 
  - Yep, by god, Everyone who gets pregnant SHOULD be parents.  patrice   Feb-07-10 10:29 PM   #128 
  - Gawd never gets it wrong. eom  Hello_Kitty   Feb-08-10 02:39 AM   #154 
  - It's not for me to say, but  riskpeace   Feb-07-10 10:31 PM   #129 
  - I assume they will lose custody of this child?  Zoeisright   Feb-07-10 10:55 PM   #133 
  - SICK!  Joe Bacon   Feb-07-10 10:55 PM   #134 
  - So?  guitar man   Feb-07-10 10:59 PM   #135 
  - A natural consequence of lowering the bar  on point   Feb-07-10 10:59 PM   #136 
  - Sick, sick motherfucker!!!  Harry Monroe   Feb-07-10 11:02 PM   #137 
  - now if only we can get Roger Ailes  wial   Feb-07-10 11:10 PM   #139 
  - But Bush said torture is OK.  Flagrante   Feb-07-10 11:28 PM   #142 
  - Child abuse = Frat pranks.... (hurl)  boppers   Feb-07-10 11:43 PM   #144 
  - So why aren't Bush, Cheney, Gonzales, Yoo, Bybee and the rest in jail?  Octafish   Feb-08-10 12:15 AM   #145 
  - They're Richer And MUCH More Important Than This Guy  wellst0nev0ter   Feb-08-10 02:20 AM   #153 
  - Waterboarding really does reflect badly on America.  alp227   Feb-08-10 12:32 AM   #147 
  - somewhere in Cali John Yoo is stroking himself while reading this story...  Blue_Tires   Feb-08-10 12:46 AM   #150 
  - Lock his ass up!  BluDemocratGirl   Feb-08-10 01:13 AM   #151 
  - Dear God what is happening to people?  AllyCat   Feb-08-10 03:12 AM   #155 
  - Get that child  dotymed   Feb-08-10 05:02 AM   #157 
  - America,  carla   Feb-08-10 06:52 AM   #160 
  - Anyone who grew up in the military knows this not too far outside the norm  MindPilot   Feb-08-10 07:40 AM   #161 
  - I disagree, and I'm currently in the military and grew up in an Army family  PacerLJ35   Feb-08-10 11:28 AM   #193 
     - Glad to get the opinion of someone actually  burrfoot   Feb-08-10 12:27 PM   #199 
     - Personal experiences vary.  MindPilot   Feb-09-10 06:38 AM   #218 
        - Perhaps they do, but you'd think in 37 years of living in and around the military  PacerLJ35   Feb-09-10 02:02 PM   #219 
  - We've created a generation of monsters. nt  Deep13   Feb-08-10 07:50 AM   #162 
  - what a sick bastard!!!  bdamomma   Feb-08-10 07:52 AM   #163 
  - Do onto him...the same.  Capt. America   Feb-08-10 08:04 AM   #164 
  - The asshole father admits to having done this before:  Hepburn   Feb-08-10 08:40 AM   #165 
  - nutcase. nt  Tim01   Feb-08-10 08:53 AM   #167 
  - why do we have to go to Great Britain to read this?  mimitabby   Feb-08-10 09:06 AM   #168 
  - You don't in fact - see Muriel Volestrangler's post 20 for other more local sources  LeftishBrit   Feb-08-10 09:18 AM   #170 
  - I've got a stomachache after reading this. Thanks for all of your comments. Devastating for the  earcandle   Feb-08-10 09:18 AM   #171 
  - Solid conservative family values!  Zambero   Feb-08-10 09:27 AM   #175 
  - Disgusting.  kenfrequed   Feb-08-10 09:38 AM   #178 
  - "Spare the Waterboarding...Spoil the Child" n/t  NoodleyAppendage   Feb-08-10 09:40 AM   #179 
  - She's too young for fraternity pranks.  Blue Owl   Feb-08-10 10:31 AM   #185 
  - The slippery slope gets more slippery. kr nt  ooglymoogly   Feb-08-10 10:44 AM   #186 
  - Christian Republicans/Conservatives say it isn't torture because we do it to our own...  Ozymanithrax   Feb-08-10 10:46 AM   #187 
  - And yet to my suprise.......  Spoonman   Feb-08-10 10:46 AM   #188 
  - "Harmless prank", let's move on to health care and Palin  fan of the arts   Feb-08-10 10:55 AM   #189 
  - Support the Troops?  perdita9   Feb-08-10 11:50 AM   #194 
  - This is why Bush, Cheney and the rest of their ilk need to be prosecuted NOW!!!  KansDem   Feb-08-10 11:56 AM   #195 
  - I don't see the political connection...  PacerLJ35   Feb-08-10 06:35 PM   #216 
  - Support our troops  rackjite   Feb-08-10 12:13 PM   #197 
  - This is an instance of one guy abusing his child...it's not indicative of anything  PacerLJ35   Feb-08-10 01:06 PM   #201 
  - Guess he was a Hannity listner  samplegirl   Feb-08-10 01:09 PM   #203 
  - there are some folks who deserve to be beaten to a pulp.  RedCloud   Feb-08-10 01:45 PM   #205 
  - I thought waterboarding was used to get people to divulge information  hughee99   Feb-08-10 03:02 PM   #210 
  - VA short 800+ mental health professionals  gimama   Feb-08-10 07:48 PM   #217 
  - awful!!  Liberal_in_LA   Feb-09-10 08:25 PM   #220 
 

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