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EvilMonk Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 12:46 AM
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29. Hmm...
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  -Obama Seeks Sweeping Change in No Child Law undeterred  Jan-31-10 08:42 PM   #0 
  - Sweeping overhaul of NCLB? Sounds great to me; the devil will  babylonsister   Jan-31-10 08:44 PM   #1 
  - Education is a complex issue, any policy will have to be complex  Freddie Stubbs   Feb-04-10 08:30 AM   #74 
  - I have little hope for this.  noamnety   Jan-31-10 08:59 PM   #2 
  - how is your reading comprehension?  mopinko   Jan-31-10 09:17 PM   #5 
  - Reading comprehension sometimes requires reading between the lines.  noamnety   Jan-31-10 09:32 PM   #9 
  - this is about federal funding, which is a small percentage of overall $$  mopinko   Jan-31-10 10:01 PM   #12 
     - a lot of people here know I teach at a charter  noamnety   Jan-31-10 10:16 PM   #15 
        - Standardized testing is the devil. rawr!  kjones   Jan-31-10 10:29 PM   #19 
        - so what do you have to disagree with?  mopinko   Jan-31-10 10:35 PM   #21 
           - I don't believe they are dumping those parts.  noamnety   Jan-31-10 11:22 PM   #26 
           - Sounds more liie a totally vague and non-specific statement .  No Elephants   Feb-02-10 02:56 AM   #54 
  - Clear as a bell. And so specific, too. Think I'll wait for more info before I react.  No Elephants   Feb-02-10 02:54 AM   #53 
  - How do you determine if students are learning if you do not test them?  Freddie Stubbs   Feb-02-10 08:05 AM   #57 
     - Somehow American schools thrived for decades before "standardized" testing.  Doremus   Feb-02-10 08:43 AM   #59 
     - Maybe it was due to the strict social constructs of the 50's....  WriteDown   Feb-02-10 08:50 AM   #60 
     - What percentage of students actually graduated back then?  Freddie Stubbs   Feb-02-10 09:26 AM   #61 
     - How do you learn anything if you are simply being taught to pass a bullshit test?  panzerfaust   Feb-02-10 09:40 AM   #62 
     - So, your arguement is that thise is no way to determine if students actually learn?  Freddie Stubbs   Feb-03-10 08:55 AM   #68 
     - We don't test what they've learned.  noamnety   Feb-02-10 09:53 AM   #63 
        - So, testing ok, as long as you test the students' progress?  Freddie Stubbs   Feb-03-10 08:59 AM   #69 
           - I wouldn't want it as the sole factor  noamnety   Feb-03-10 03:47 PM   #72 
  - It is about time  azurnoir   Jan-31-10 09:03 PM   #3 
  - Hoping for the best K&R  Jefferson23   Jan-31-10 09:08 PM   #4 
  - I wish we could declare everything the chimp did as null and void.  Webster Green   Jan-31-10 09:17 PM   #6 
  - yes the devil is in the details.....  madrchsod   Jan-31-10 09:27 PM   #7 
  - he is speaking on behalf of Obama, implementing Obama policy. wanna fire Obama too? nt  msongs   Jan-31-10 10:18 PM   #17 
  - Don't believe everything you read, especially on DU. nt  babylonsister   Jan-31-10 10:33 PM   #20 
  - Seems to be a lot of...  djp2   Jan-31-10 10:49 PM   #22 
     - I notice you don't indicate where you come from, or if NCLB infected  babylonsister   Jan-31-10 10:58 PM   #24 
  - Why would President Obama do that?  Freddie Stubbs   Feb-02-10 07:30 AM   #56 
  - Here's a sweeping change for ya - shit can the whole thing  progressoid   Jan-31-10 09:31 PM   #8 
  - +1  Hydra   Feb-01-10 04:16 PM   #45 
  - +2  FiveGoodMen   Feb-01-10 06:12 PM   #49 
  - seconded  ibegurpard   Feb-03-10 07:06 PM   #73 
  - K&R  rpannier   Jan-31-10 09:40 PM   #10 
  - How's about requiring a minimum number of instructional days so the Hawaii teachers union stops  dkf   Jan-31-10 10:00 PM   #11 
  - Putting a kid in a school for a long time does not make that student good,  Suji to Seoul   Jan-31-10 10:17 PM   #16 
  - Did you see we now have the least amount of school days in the nation?  dkf   Jan-31-10 10:51 PM   #23 
  - Raising kids in Europe, I was amazed to discover how short their  JDPriestly   Feb-01-10 12:25 AM   #27 
  - The union required that no extra homework be given so as not to  dkf   Feb-01-10 12:39 AM   #28 
  - Then become a teacher or school adminstrator and change the system  Suji to Seoul   Feb-01-10 04:31 AM   #35 
  - I was thinking maybe I should if I decide to change careers.  dkf   Feb-01-10 04:55 AM   #36 
     - I taught for a year and it was a very hard and stressful job. Criticism, OTOH, is easy.  No Elephants   Feb-02-10 03:03 AM   #55 
  - In my experience, the teachers' union in California is very pro-student,  JDPriestly   Feb-01-10 04:31 PM   #47 
  - I remember in high school German class in the 80s learning about  AllyCat   Feb-01-10 01:13 AM   #32 
     - As a result, teachers have to waste their time supervising the  JDPriestly   Feb-01-10 04:30 PM   #46 
  - I live in China and before Korea. . .six and seven days a week for 10 hours a day  Suji to Seoul   Feb-01-10 04:27 AM   #34 
     - Well how's about 8:00 to 2:30 3 days a week and 8:00 to 1:30 one day a week.  dkf   Feb-01-10 05:22 AM   #37 
     - if the students learn and perform in that time, then good, I am happy for it  Suji to Seoul   Feb-01-10 05:33 AM   #39 
        - We are ranked 47th and that is because the bottom states are tied.  dkf   Feb-01-10 05:50 AM   #41 
     - Dupe  dkf   Feb-01-10 05:23 AM   #38 
     - How Odd...  DrCory   Feb-01-10 08:34 AM   #43 
        - They don't sleep in my class. If they do, I yell at them, remove their sitting privilege and  Suji to Seoul   Feb-01-10 10:28 PM   #50 
           - Most Likely...  DrCory   Feb-02-10 03:13 PM   #64 
              - I have a friend in Wuhan Loves it there.  Suji to Seoul   Feb-02-10 09:43 PM   #66 
  - Why 100K? Why not 500K?  WriteDown   Feb-01-10 08:20 AM   #42 
     - I'm not complaining about that. If ARod can get 28 million a year hitting a baseball  Suji to Seoul   Feb-01-10 10:35 PM   #51 
        - As long as each teacher is required to get a doctorate....  WriteDown   Feb-02-10 08:25 AM   #58 
           - I have two Master's Degrees (including one in the subject I taught in America)  Suji to Seoul   Feb-02-10 06:22 PM   #65 
              - If you can find someone that will pay you that much or can sell tickets..  WriteDown   Feb-03-10 08:26 AM   #67 
  - Did the teachers' union create the "Furlough Fridays"?  KamaAina   Feb-01-10 05:35 PM   #48 
     - No, it's just easier to blame teachers and teacher's unions.  Suji to Seoul   Feb-01-10 10:37 PM   #52 
  - Oh No!!  Frank Booth   Jan-31-10 10:04 PM   #13 
  - Since education is a long term investment rather than a short term achievement  Suji to Seoul   Jan-31-10 10:15 PM   #14 
     - Nope. I like most public teachers and think they do great work.  Frank Booth   Jan-31-10 11:00 PM   #25 
        - like the ABA who keeps bad lawyers and the Police Union that keeps bad cops?  Suji to Seoul   Feb-01-10 05:35 AM   #40 
  - Wer ked fer me:!@  GiveMeFreedom   Jan-31-10 10:20 PM   #18 
  - What was that called again? Creative spelling or something?  AllyCat   Feb-01-10 01:06 AM   #30 
  - Hmm...  EvilMonk   Feb-01-10 12:46 AM   #29 
  - Funding for performance  JCMach1   Feb-01-10 01:08 AM   #31 
  - Now this could be good......  winyanstaz   Feb-01-10 03:39 AM   #33 
  - "solicit input from Congressional leaders of both parties"  Tim01   Feb-01-10 08:39 AM   #44 
  - NCLB is a failure  Jkid   Feb-03-10 10:44 AM   #70 
  - Ah, the law that left the poorest schools without even school supplies  superconnected   Feb-03-10 11:09 AM   #71 

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