| 57. And brought to you by Carl's Jr.!! |
| -Court Rules That Mass Surveillance of Americans is Immune From Judicial Review |
kpete |
Jan-22-10 09:48 AM |
#0 |
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OK, NOW is it official? |
havocmom |
Jan-22-10 09:50 AM |
#1 |
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Not sure America ever was ours ... but was always hopeful |
SomeGuyInEagan |
Jan-22-10 12:25 PM |
#49 |
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Imagine how that sounds to a Native American. |
Mithreal |
Jan-22-10 07:19 PM |
#149 |
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We have the same |
dotymed |
Jan-22-10 12:51 PM |
#62 |
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Except the Chinese don't buy our defective crap |
RedCloud |
Jan-22-10 02:35 PM |
#101 |
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Ill take hyperbole for 500, Alex |
Socal31 |
Jan-22-10 04:59 PM |
#120 |
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Sure there is some hyperbole, but care to comment on these two stories particularly? |
Mithreal |
Jan-22-10 07:21 PM |
#151 |
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You're right. They have more rights. nt |
valerief |
Jan-22-10 08:07 PM |
#161 |
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Isn't China set to get National Health Care? |
Mithreal |
Jan-22-10 07:18 PM |
#147 |
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don't think it really ever was. |
whatacountry09 |
Jan-22-10 01:39 PM |
#75 |
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The Bad Guys Won |
NashVegas |
Jan-23-10 07:28 AM |
#200 |
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They got into striking distance then. And we stopped playing defense against the ground game. |
havocmom |
Jan-23-10 12:30 PM |
#206 |
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Our corporate overlords despise us... |
ixion |
Jan-22-10 09:50 AM |
#2 |
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Yes. Their contempt is palpable every day. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jan-22-10 01:16 PM |
#71 |
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Oh Goody! Now we can ask agents Mike and Mary, "Can you hear me now?!?" |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-22-10 09:50 AM |
#3 |
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And the hits just keep coming.... |
Coventina |
Jan-22-10 09:56 AM |
#4 |
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"We hold these truths to be self-evident:..." |
wizstars |
Jan-22-10 10:07 AM |
#5 |
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"We hold these truths to be self-evident:..." |
Harry Monroe |
Jan-22-10 12:42 PM |
#56 |
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Things are different now than they were in the days of the slaveholder who authored that document. |
No Elephants |
Jan-22-10 01:51 PM |
#82 |
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"I just mind dying for no result" |
peace frog |
Jan-23-10 08:57 AM |
#202 |
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The way to revolt against this system is by withdrawing your support for it! |
lagavulin |
Jan-23-10 11:14 AM |
#205 |
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I feel like Bruce Willis at the end of "The Sixth Sense." |
OnyxCollie |
Jan-22-10 10:12 AM |
#6 |
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At least Bruce Willis was able to say goodbye peacefully |
Frank Cannon |
Jan-22-10 11:48 AM |
#35 |
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More like Mickey Rourke in "Angel Heart", I guess. |
OnyxCollie |
Jan-22-10 12:08 PM |
#42 |
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no, groundhog day. but without the cute babe he gets at the end. |
ChairmanAgnostic |
Jan-22-10 12:13 PM |
#45 |
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K&R. nt |
OnyxCollie |
Jan-22-10 10:13 AM |
#7 |
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what i want to know is did Obama's DOJ fight for NSA rights or ours? |
flyarm |
Jan-22-10 10:14 AM |
#8 |
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Since Senator Obama voted to expand domestic surveillance |
OnyxCollie |
Jan-22-10 10:15 AM |
#9 |
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I assume that's a rhetorical question. |
PSPS |
Jan-22-10 10:16 AM |
#10 |
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Here you go.... |
No Elephants |
Jan-22-10 01:48 PM |
#79 |
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U.S. District Court Chief Judge Vaughn Walker appointed by Bush Sr. |
W T F |
Jan-22-10 10:21 AM |
#11 |
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"Smirk." - Poppy 'Skull & Boner' Bush (R - Elitist) |
SpiralHawk |
Jan-22-10 11:59 AM |
#38 |
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And brought to you by Carl's Jr.!! |
Harry Monroe |
Jan-22-10 12:44 PM |
#57 |
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K&R |
Solly Mack |
Jan-22-10 10:21 AM |
#12 |
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No, the court held that government may ignore the 4th Amendment to the Constitution., |
No Elephants |
Jan-22-10 01:40 PM |
#76 |
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Yes, I know it doesn't apply to Jane and John Public |
Solly Mack |
Jan-22-10 01:49 PM |
#80 |
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I knew you knew. I just wanted to spell out how stinky the court's decision is.. |
No Elephants |
Jan-22-10 05:10 PM |
#123 |
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"Okay! So now if you're scoring at home...... |
DeSwiss |
Jan-22-10 10:45 AM |
#13 |
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We haven't reached fascism yet |
Goldstein1984 |
Jan-22-10 11:34 AM |
#27 |
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We have reached Fascism. |
JDPriestly |
Jan-22-10 01:11 PM |
#67 |
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You might be right |
Goldstein1984 |
Jan-22-10 02:00 PM |
#89 |
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By the way... |
Goldstein1984 |
Jan-22-10 02:06 PM |
#95 |
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Direct line : McCarthyEra/HUAC ...COINTELPRO....HOMELAND SECURITY |
defendandprotect |
Jan-22-10 02:56 PM |
#105 |
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Okay. You've convinced me. |
Goldstein1984 |
Jan-22-10 03:15 PM |
#107 |
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And, don't forget the right wing political violence along the way...assassinations, etal ... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-22-10 05:59 PM |
#131 |
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We have a choice of alternative now? Do tell? |
Mithreal |
Jan-22-10 07:33 PM |
#152 |
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Meme's seem to be the rule |
Goldstein1984 |
Jan-22-10 08:01 PM |
#158 |
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Agree . . . patriarchy is fascism.... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-22-10 02:55 PM |
#104 |
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I never liked Monopoly |
Goldstein1984 |
Jan-22-10 08:00 PM |
#157 |
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Yep . . . pretty much where we are now -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Jan-22-10 08:13 PM |
#162 |
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HELLO!! |
L. Coyote |
Jan-22-10 02:29 PM |
#100 |
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Read it the first time. Understood it the first time. |
Goldstein1984 |
Jan-22-10 02:39 PM |
#102 |
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A very slippery slope, indeed. Watch your footing! |
proudohioan |
Jan-22-10 04:03 PM |
#111 |
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Maybe the contents of your library haven't yet been checked, but |
No Elephants |
Jan-22-10 05:15 PM |
#125 |
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TRUE STORY |
Goldstein1984 |
Jan-22-10 05:42 PM |
#129 |
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now THAT is creepy |
fascisthunter |
Jan-22-10 07:05 PM |
#143 |
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Just FYI: |
boppers |
Jan-22-10 07:39 PM |
#155 |
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He never told me my purchase records were accessed |
Goldstein1984 |
Jan-22-10 08:20 PM |
#164 |
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No longer trust their corporations.... ? |
boppers |
Jan-22-10 08:30 PM |
#165 |
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It's "Rollerball" |
Goldstein1984 |
Jan-23-10 05:05 AM |
#195 |
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We are living that scenario as we breathe today |
N_E_1 for Tennis |
Jan-23-10 09:41 AM |
#203 |
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I vote we are there. nt |
rhett o rick |
Jan-23-10 12:43 AM |
#168 |
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We see all 14 to |
Enthusiast |
Jan-23-10 04:49 AM |
#194 |
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Very useful analysis: everyone should read this...and furthermore... |
Liberation Angel |
Jan-24-10 02:59 PM |
#210 |
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You forgot "War is Peace" , "Slavery is Freedom" and "Ignorance is Strength"!! |
Harry Monroe |
Jan-22-10 12:45 PM |
#60 |
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Well, let's look at the 10 steps of Fascism and see if we have reached it: |
dixiegrrrrl |
Jan-22-10 01:41 PM |
#77 |
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Nice Flag! |
Lochloosa |
Jan-23-10 05:17 AM |
#196 |
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I thought it was "everyone is doing it"-now kids everywhere can use this |
KakistocracyHater |
Jan-23-10 09:11 PM |
#207 |
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Well, this certainly encourages the gov't to do bad things to a lot of people in order to turn... |
GodlessBiker |
Jan-22-10 10:45 AM |
#14 |
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Yep. Very bad policy inherent in this decision. |
No Elephants |
Jan-22-10 02:00 PM |
#90 |
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Slip sliding away. |
Jakes Progress |
Jan-22-10 10:54 AM |
#15 |
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Nice! |
SammyWinstonJack |
Jan-22-10 10:55 AM |
#16 |
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Hey, can we tap the Government's phones now? n/t |
Downwinder |
Jan-22-10 10:55 AM |
#17 |
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When the government does it, then it's not illegal... nt |
thereismore |
Jan-22-10 10:59 AM |
#18 |
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Yes, but in the USA the document below used to MEAN SOMETHING to our Legislators: |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-22-10 11:05 AM |
#20 |
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How long until Government officials use private information... |
chrisa |
Jan-22-10 11:03 AM |
#19 |
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and what would make you think that hasn't been going on since this started? eom |
flyarm |
Jan-22-10 11:25 AM |
#22 |
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Or worse yet, the corporations' new status.. |
KansDem |
Jan-22-10 11:36 AM |
#29 |
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And BigCorp's secrecy prevents discovery of |
Trillo |
Jan-22-10 12:02 PM |
#39 |
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Very realistic, in fact. |
chrisa |
Jan-22-10 04:57 PM |
#118 |
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At this point... |
V_Byl |
Jan-22-10 05:15 PM |
#124 |
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How long until Government officials use private information...??? |
SlingBlade |
Jan-22-10 12:31 PM |
#50 |
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It does lean toward the persuasive. |
Mithreal |
Jan-22-10 07:36 PM |
#154 |
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Um, Watergate? Nixon in general? |
No Elephants |
Jan-22-10 01:53 PM |
#86 |
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It was done through burglary. |
chrisa |
Jan-22-10 05:00 PM |
#121 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-22-10 11:12 AM |
#21 |
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True. Obama agrees with these abuses. |
avaistheone1 |
Jan-22-10 12:12 PM |
#44 |
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Obama Quietly Issues Ruling Saying It's Legal For The FBI |
sattahipdeep |
Jan-22-10 12:38 PM |
#54 |
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Other way around. This court agreed with Obama. See Reply # 79. |
No Elephants |
Jan-22-10 01:57 PM |
#88 |
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This week just keeps getting better and better. |
myrna minx |
Jan-22-10 11:25 AM |
#23 |
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And it's still not over. |
Frank Cannon |
Jan-22-10 11:46 AM |
#34 |
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You think it's gonna be that long?????? |
proudohioan |
Jan-22-10 01:00 PM |
#64 |
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I'm an optimist |
Frank Cannon |
Jan-22-10 03:35 PM |
#110 |
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I can use my calling card now! |
Ezlivin |
Jan-22-10 11:27 AM |
#24 |
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+1 |
Mithreal |
Jan-22-10 06:24 PM |
#133 |
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Nothing a million molotov cocktails can't fix. |
westerebus |
Jan-22-10 11:28 AM |
#25 |
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K&R |
JonLP24 |
Jan-22-10 11:29 AM |
#26 |
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It's to protect our FREEDOM, dontcha know? |
HCE SuiGeneris |
Jan-22-10 11:34 AM |
#28 |
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Is avoidance of surveillance also immune? |
dbonds |
Jan-22-10 11:43 AM |
#30 |
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This may be some big cosmic joke |
Bragi |
Jan-22-10 11:44 AM |
#31 |
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And Conan will still have the Tonight Show. |
Arugula Latte |
Jan-22-10 11:46 AM |
#33 |
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I, for one, welcome our new corporo-fascist overlords. |
Arugula Latte |
Jan-22-10 11:46 AM |
#32 |
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Nice Simpsons reference |
geardaddy |
Jan-22-10 12:08 PM |
#43 |
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Me too. |
Mithreal |
Jan-22-10 06:27 PM |
#134 |
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Anyone here believes... |
Andronex |
Jan-22-10 11:57 AM |
#36 |
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That's right. |
Wapsie B |
Jan-22-10 12:23 PM |
#48 |
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+1 One definition of insanity is continuing to do the same thing, but expecting a different result. |
No Elephants |
Jan-22-10 02:05 PM |
#93 |
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I know it looks like we are buried under a shit avalanche at the moment |
Mithreal |
Jan-22-10 06:29 PM |
#135 |
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Good Cop Bad Cop Routine? |
Trillo |
Jan-22-10 11:57 AM |
#37 |
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The principles outlined in the Bill of Rights... |
FlyByNight |
Jan-22-10 12:05 PM |
#40 |
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... |
Soylent Brice |
Jan-22-10 12:08 PM |
#41 |
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Welcome to the New CSA |
Oldtimeralso |
Jan-22-10 12:13 PM |
#46 |
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WTF? |
Lugnut |
Jan-22-10 12:18 PM |
#47 |
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the Obama administration issued a secret rule almost two weeks ago saying it was legal for the FBI |
gulfcoastliberal |
Jan-22-10 12:34 PM |
#51 |
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Right now I am grateful |
JenGatherer |
Jan-22-10 12:36 PM |
#52 |
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Of course we can still communicate here :) but of course it's all being recorded.... |
winyanstaz |
Jan-22-10 12:57 PM |
#63 |
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No reason to. It's part of the bread and circuses now. |
Mithreal |
Jan-22-10 06:36 PM |
#136 |
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Just wow - it keeps coming strong |
Politicub |
Jan-22-10 12:37 PM |
#53 |
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And the hits just keep coming!! |
Harry Monroe |
Jan-22-10 12:41 PM |
#55 |
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Fascism is certainly ramping up. No doubt about it. |
Mithreal |
Jan-22-10 12:45 PM |
#58 |
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Could anything be more foolish of the Celebrity-puking, False Reality Bubble that encompasses the |
tom_paine |
Jan-23-10 08:03 AM |
#201 |
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Things are just getting more and more FUCKED every day |
slay |
Jan-22-10 12:45 PM |
#59 |
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Another day, another horrendous decision. |
reformist |
Jan-22-10 12:46 PM |
#61 |
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You think the ACLU could spend more time on this |
Generator |
Jan-22-10 01:05 PM |
#65 |
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Another... |
DisgustedInMN |
Jan-22-10 01:10 PM |
#66 |
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I liked to think of the Bush years as a show called Great Moments in Irony |
Mithreal |
Jan-22-10 06:50 PM |
#140 |
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We just need to hang on |
gaijinlaw |
Jan-22-10 01:13 PM |
#68 |
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Ah, come on... |
bugisbug |
Jan-22-10 01:13 PM |
#69 |
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is it Fascism yet? knr |
Mari333 |
Jan-22-10 01:16 PM |
#70 |
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The American Heritage Dictionary defines fascism as |
dixiegrrrrl |
Jan-22-10 01:50 PM |
#81 |
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wow. |
Mari333 |
Jan-22-10 01:53 PM |
#85 |
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Upthread I listed the 1o steps of Fascism.... |
dixiegrrrrl |
Jan-22-10 02:01 PM |
#91 |
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Just ask Benito Mussolini, although the authenticity of the quote has been questioned |
Mithreal |
Jan-22-10 06:57 PM |
#141 |
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god - this caps the take away of citizens rights week |
katty |
Jan-22-10 01:25 PM |
#72 |
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And that's not even the Friday news dump. |
The_Commonist |
Jan-22-10 01:41 PM |
#78 |
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This is the icing on the cake for this wonderful week. |
Vinca |
Jan-22-10 01:34 PM |
#73 |
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So, what do we do? |
jonathon |
Jan-22-10 01:36 PM |
#74 |
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K & R |
Better Believe It |
Jan-22-10 01:52 PM |
#83 |
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Watch what you say on the phone! |
alp227 |
Jan-22-10 01:52 PM |
#84 |
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Don't watch what you say on the phone -- may I make a suggestion? |
SandWalker1984 |
Jan-22-10 07:20 PM |
#150 |
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Life is short. Live it while you can. When it's over, it's over. |
makemyday |
Jan-22-10 01:54 PM |
#87 |
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Appreciate the Gandhi quote. However, there is such a thing as good intervention. |
Mithreal |
Jan-22-10 07:07 PM |
#144 |
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This has been a pretty shitty week. |
Lasher |
Jan-22-10 02:01 PM |
#92 |
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Not much really to worry about |
Torn_Scorned_Ignored |
Jan-22-10 02:06 PM |
#94 |
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the trojan horse looked so sexay in shades |
ima_sinnic |
Jan-22-10 02:08 PM |
#96 |
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So sad. Are freedoms or the illusion of freedom is slowly being taken away. |
Butch350 |
Jan-22-10 02:15 PM |
#97 |
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But you are hereby granted 25 extra grams of Victory Chocolate |
h9socialist |
Jan-22-10 02:16 PM |
#98 |
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Sounds like America is now operating under the new NUREMBERG LAWS!!! |
defendandprotect |
Jan-22-10 02:27 PM |
#99 |
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into the abyss |
librechik |
Jan-22-10 02:53 PM |
#103 |
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Whatta concept!!! |
cdillon |
Jan-22-10 03:04 PM |
#106 |
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So if it hasn't |
sattahipdeep |
Jan-22-10 03:20 PM |
#108 |
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What a shitty week! |
santamargarita |
Jan-22-10 03:31 PM |
#109 |
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Yes it has been |
underpants |
Jan-22-10 06:47 PM |
#139 |
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The blows keep coimng. When will we finally stand up & be counted! |
emsimon33 |
Jan-22-10 04:11 PM |
#112 |
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In summary: "We've been doing this for over 100 years now, nothing to see here." |
boppers |
Jan-22-10 04:21 PM |
#113 |
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This has not always be considered legal in the United States. We have |
No Elephants |
Jan-22-10 05:23 PM |
#127 |
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Mail to/from the US was inspected. Still is to some extent, I assume. |
boppers |
Jan-22-10 07:19 PM |
#148 |
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boppers, get your skis ready, the shark is waiting |
Mithreal |
Jan-22-10 07:11 PM |
#145 |
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A Fonzi reference? |
boppers |
Jan-22-10 07:34 PM |
#153 |
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Telecom Company is a Person now. We are F$&^$#%ed. |
glinda |
Jan-22-10 04:25 PM |
#114 |
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Hey AT&T - A Big Fuck You to You and Your Outsourcing, You Traitors! |
scentopine |
Jan-22-10 04:46 PM |
#115 |
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A constitutional referendum on it's way n/t |
AlphaCentauri |
Jan-22-10 04:52 PM |
#116 |
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Steal a little and they throw you in jail; steal a lot and they make you king. |
FiveGoodMen |
Jan-22-10 04:56 PM |
#117 |
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I am so sick of this shit........ |
BlueJac |
Jan-22-10 04:57 PM |
#119 |
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News Corp will buy a candidate and help AT&T defeat net neutrality -nt |
scentopine |
Jan-22-10 05:02 PM |
#122 |
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That's one of my biggest fears. |
V_Byl |
Jan-22-10 05:18 PM |
#126 |
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...and I used to make fun of Libertarians. |
FLPanhandle |
Jan-22-10 05:28 PM |
#128 |
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Please explain. Right about what? I thought Libertarians were for |
Mithreal |
Jan-22-10 07:14 PM |
#146 |
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Libertarians wanted a free communications network. |
boppers |
Jan-22-10 07:57 PM |
#156 |
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I had no idea that Libertarians were allies in net neutrality. |
Mithreal |
Jan-22-10 08:03 PM |
#159 |
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"The internet routes around censorship".... It's an old mantra. |
boppers |
Jan-22-10 08:15 PM |
#163 |
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K&R n/t |
MissDeeds |
Jan-22-10 05:57 PM |
#130 |
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What did you expect from Papa Bush's nominee? Certainly nothing constitutional. |
appleannie1 |
Jan-22-10 06:04 PM |
#132 |
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I don't get it .. |
AsahinaKimi |
Jan-22-10 06:38 PM |
#137 |
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The courts have no constitutional authority to approve of this. |
midnight |
Jan-22-10 06:46 PM |
#138 |
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How very, very hopeful and changealicious! n/t |
QC |
Jan-22-10 06:59 PM |
#142 |
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Maybe if we each incorporate ourselves, we can get some rights. nt |
valerief |
Jan-22-10 08:07 PM |
#160 |
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We are soooooo fucked! nt |
pleah |
Jan-22-10 08:34 PM |
#166 |
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All this stuff happening at once is not a coincidence. |
Faith No More |
Jan-22-10 10:38 PM |
#167 |
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The hits just keep on coming! |
Dream Detector 2010 |
Jan-23-10 01:30 AM |
#169 |
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Judge nixes two Bush-era domestic spying cases |
demoleft |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#170 |
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This is how a Democratic Republic dies... |
ixion |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#171 |
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"Bush era"? That's why it was dismissed. It had nothing to do with Bush. |
boppers |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
# |
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no dude, to wiretap a US citizen on US soil requires a warrant |
pasto76 |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#176 |
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...NOT if one party to the conversation is on foreign soil. |
boppers |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#178 |
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The issue with dragnet surveilance, |
ThomCat |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#180 |
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"Just because you are overseas you do not surrender your rights" |
boppers |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#181 |
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It doesn't matter what other countries think. |
ThomCat |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#183 |
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"Americans don't loose our rights under American law when out of the country." |
boppers |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#185 |
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That isn't American exceptionalism. |
ThomCat |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#186 |
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That's only law in ONE country. ONE. |
boppers |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#187 |
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You do realize that are exceptions, where any nations laws reach |
ThomCat |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#188 |
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Opinions do not trump law. eom |
boppers |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#189 |
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Wow! You truly are clueless. |
ThomCat |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#190 |
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very. |
Divine Discontent |
Jan-23-10 09:54 PM |
#208 |
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The spy who loved me, the United States of America. |
Jefferson23 |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#173 |
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Talk about a Catch-22. |
Qutzupalotl |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#174 |
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So if it hasn't touched you personally then it doesn't matter--right? |
sattahipdeep |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#177 |
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It's called "standing". It's a legal thing. |
boppers |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#179 |
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So its a legal thing? |
sattahipdeep |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#182 |
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In the US courts, yes.... |
boppers |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#184 |
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We're going from outrageous decision to more outrageous decisions...!!! |
defendandprotect |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#175 |
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"as long as the govment spies on all Americans..".. |
gimama |
Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#191 |
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Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#172 |
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Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
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Jan-23-10 02:41 AM |
#193 |
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We the people lose yet again... |
Hubert Flottz |
Jan-23-10 06:49 AM |
#197 |
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Conservative judges continue to conspire against us! |
RedCloud |
Jan-23-10 06:55 AM |
#198 |
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Change you can ... ? |
panzerfaust |
Jan-23-10 07:05 AM |
#199 |
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Is this judge a repug? |
zoff |
Jan-23-10 09:43 AM |
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PRIVACY |
riversouth |
Jan-24-10 12:13 PM |
#209 |