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Mon Jan-18-10 10:05 AM
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| 29. In what way is it "fair" to make it cheaper/more attractive for US corps. to hire foreigners? nt |
| -India to push US on social security pact |
Newsjock |
Jan-18-10 12:43 AM |
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So, don't have Indians working in the U.S. I'm fine with that. |
JDPriestly |
Jan-18-10 01:09 AM |
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The people that did that work were over qualified, nudge, nudge, wink, wink. n/t |
sce56 |
Jan-18-10 01:19 AM |
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Americans are already trained - they're just unemployed |
Skittles |
Jan-18-10 04:30 AM |
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Bingo. I have been bitching about the H1B type visas forever........ |
pattmarty |
Jan-18-10 06:13 AM |
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Amen |
ekwhite |
Jan-18-10 08:27 AM |
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Cut the right-wing BS, don't disguise it as an anti-corp logic |
ChangoLoa |
Jan-18-10 10:05 AM |
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No. If you want to "blame" , blame the origin countries................ |
pattmarty |
Jan-18-10 11:40 AM |
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What do you suggest to us, 3rd World countries, for "keeping our investment in human capital"? |
ChangoLoa |
Jan-18-10 12:36 PM |
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And, there shouldn't be unfair to workers and poor people trade.......... |
pattmarty |
Jan-18-10 02:33 PM |
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Maybe re-read the article (a bit slower this time.) US citizens must work 40 quarters to receive SS |
Romulox |
Jan-18-10 11:45 AM |
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Well... what does "short-term" mean? |
ChangoLoa |
Jan-18-10 12:26 PM |
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I don't understand your question. It is not in US workers' interest to provide |
Romulox |
Jan-18-10 12:31 PM |
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If the Indians don't like our rules, let them stay home. |
JDPriestly |
Jan-18-10 02:38 PM |
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India is a country with a growing economy. Our alleged growth is just a lie. |
JDPriestly |
Jan-18-10 02:35 PM |
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Nonsense.. Third world countries are giving the U.S. their best people for free? |
No Elephants |
Jan-19-10 03:25 AM |
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It's a metaphor |
ChangoLoa |
Jan-19-10 07:12 PM |
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Agreed. n/t |
OhioChick |
Jan-18-10 10:59 AM |
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Do you know how to get more American's to study Vector Calculus and Differential Equations? |
zaj |
Jan-18-10 10:03 AM |
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Make sure that there are jobs for them |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jan-18-10 10:45 AM |
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Yep. But you know that ain't gonna happen. The "new" US slogan..... |
pattmarty |
Jan-18-10 11:51 AM |
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There are jobs for highly American skilled engineering with Masters or PHD's |
zaj |
Jan-18-10 04:23 PM |
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Then beat the shit out of OUR politicians so our education system.............. |
pattmarty |
Jan-18-10 11:46 AM |
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Improving our education system to produce more kids who want to study advanced math.... |
zaj |
Jan-18-10 04:24 PM |
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You know what? You're right. But, the same can be said for................ |
pattmarty |
Jan-18-10 06:27 PM |
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Isn't everything a lot easier said than done? E.g., putting a man on the moon "in this decade." |
No Elephants |
Jan-19-10 03:33 AM |
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Don't outsource half the jobs that require that expertise, and undercut the other half |
Romulox |
Jan-18-10 11:46 AM |
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The American engineering bubble burst in the 70/80's when... |
zaj |
Jan-18-10 04:28 PM |
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"As a nation, we aren't motivated to do that." Yet you say you know for a fact |
No Elephants |
Jan-19-10 03:37 AM |
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Reduce student visas so that american students have the opportunity? |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jan-18-10 11:48 AM |
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American student's aren't interested in PHD programs in engineering... |
zaj |
Jan-18-10 04:29 PM |
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Just another of the "jobs americans won't do". Right? |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jan-19-10 09:31 AM |
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You get Americans to study those subjects by going into the schools |
JDPriestly |
Jan-18-10 02:43 PM |
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The US Defense industry is probably working the hardest because... |
zaj |
Jan-18-10 04:32 PM |
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lolz, lk y wud I want 2 do dat? |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Jan-19-10 04:13 AM |
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zaj, I have a daughter who loves calculus and who has a |
JDPriestly |
Jan-18-10 02:57 PM |
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Best post on the subject so far... |
zaj |
Jan-18-10 04:35 PM |
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Pay them more and get the word out that those companies will hire native-born Americans, |
amandabeech |
Jan-18-10 04:59 PM |
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I spent 6 years in an engineering program. and I can tell you... |
zaj |
Jan-19-10 02:56 AM |
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Yep. Same way the U.S. encouraged U.S. citizens to study math and science five minutes |
No Elephants |
Jan-19-10 03:31 AM |
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*Sigh* |
Stumbler |
Jan-18-10 01:56 AM |
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If they don't want to pay the tax they are free to go home at any time. |
OregonBlue |
Jan-18-10 02:32 AM |
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This isn't news, the US has "totalization agreements" with many countries |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Jan-18-10 03:39 AM |
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These people act like freepers any time India is mentioned ... |
cosmicone |
Jan-18-10 03:54 AM |
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I find the rhetoric irritating, |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Jan-18-10 04:21 AM |
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It is irritating. |
cosmicone |
Jan-18-10 08:46 AM |
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Well your race baiting is pretty annoying too. |
Lasher |
Jan-18-10 11:26 AM |
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It is a legitimate question, why is there no outrage over the E3 visa given to Australians? |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Jan-18-10 11:44 AM |
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Comicone? It's been awhile since I've seen a typo that was so amusing. |
Lasher |
Jan-18-10 01:06 PM |
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How is it a stawman, why is it okay for Australians to steal jobs, but not Indians? |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Jan-18-10 01:50 PM |
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I think we know the answer to that one |
treestar |
Jan-18-10 03:59 PM |
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uhh... it has to be the folksy accent... right? |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Jan-18-10 08:49 PM |
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You act like a freeper anytime Pakistan is mentioned |
bananas |
Jan-18-10 04:54 AM |
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"like"? |
closeupready |
Jan-18-10 08:57 AM |
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+1...Speaks Volumes n/t |
OhioChick |
Jan-18-10 01:43 PM |
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Then what about the fucking poor Mexicans? The illegals pay............ |
pattmarty |
Jan-18-10 06:34 AM |
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So being here illegally is the same as being here legally? n/t |
cosmicone |
Jan-18-10 08:41 AM |
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When it comes to the "payroll tax", I fucking guess so. There is a............ |
pattmarty |
Jan-18-10 08:54 AM |
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I don't have kids, but I pay taxes to fund K-12 education |
Juche |
Jan-18-10 08:52 AM |
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Exactly +1 |
ChangoLoa |
Jan-18-10 09:56 AM |
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Good! Then get my Social Security back for me. I contributed |
mbperrin |
Jan-19-10 02:39 PM |
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You have the exact same concern for US workers as do posters on that *other* site. |
Romulox |
Jan-18-10 10:05 AM |
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No, I am just an American working abroad who doesn't hate foreign workers |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Jan-18-10 11:51 AM |
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Supporting American workers being tantamount to "hating foreign workers" is vile framing |
Romulox |
Jan-18-10 11:56 AM |
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I see just as much stupid xenophobia around here as there, |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Jan-18-10 02:10 PM |
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And nearly as much corporatism/neoliberal economics. nt |
Romulox |
Jan-18-10 02:36 PM |
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F H1-B and the horse they rode in on |
NJGeek |
Jan-19-10 11:08 PM |
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Corporation should start paying - They won't, so we'll have to pay.... |
LaPera |
Jan-18-10 05:13 AM |
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You won't be paying for their SS ... |
cosmicone |
Jan-18-10 08:43 AM |
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Not even fair yet |
ChangoLoa |
Jan-18-10 10:08 AM |
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So now we're not only bringing in foreigners to take jobs from Americans |
Ganja Ninja |
Jan-18-10 05:41 AM |
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Well once you're on the way to destroying your own middle class |
shadowknows69 |
Jan-18-10 08:35 AM |
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This is about more than being "fair", it's also about keeping our Social Security system solvent |
groundloop |
Jan-18-10 06:51 AM |
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Agree. nt |
Justyce |
Jan-18-10 08:46 AM |
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Just another shovel of dirt in the face of our dwindling middle class! |
1776Forever |
Jan-18-10 08:31 AM |
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Get rid of the H1B visas! |
Joanne98 |
Jan-18-10 08:34 AM |
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+1 |
AzDar |
Jan-18-10 10:10 AM |
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+2 n/t |
ChromeFoundry |
Jan-18-10 01:35 PM |
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+3 nt |
SammyWinstonJack |
Jan-18-10 03:16 PM |
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+4 |
Veruca Salt |
Jan-19-10 10:58 PM |
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If it is a program rife with the abuses we've seen over the last few years, then absolutely. |
closeupready |
Jan-18-10 09:24 PM |
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Then let them stay home |
Angry Dragon |
Jan-18-10 09:37 AM |
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In what way is it "fair" to make it cheaper/more attractive for US corps. to hire foreigners? nt |
Romulox |
Jan-18-10 10:05 AM |
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Corporations get tax breaks for moving overseas, so the guestworkers |
blue97keet |
Jan-18-10 10:18 AM |
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Where Are The So-Called "Conservatives" on this? |
Mark D. |
Jan-18-10 10:30 AM |
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I do that all the time in my local paper's online comments sections-- |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jan-18-10 10:48 AM |
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THERE IS NOT A BUMPERSTICKER SOLUTION TO THIS COMPLEX ISSUE |
happygoluckytoyou |
Jan-18-10 10:33 AM |
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I've often argued that layed off auto workers, e.g., *can't afford* pricy |
Romulox |
Jan-18-10 11:13 AM |
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If your interest is in protecting US workers. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jan-18-10 11:51 AM |
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Having been a factory worker, test tech, and an engineer (software) |
blue97keet |
Jan-18-10 04:17 PM |
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Anyone working in the US should have to contribute to social security |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Jan-18-10 02:54 PM |
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and everybody should get a check by 65 regardless of their citizenship n/t |
AlphaCentauri |
Jan-18-10 03:30 PM |
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What happens when these workers on H-1B visas go back to their countries? |
varun |
Jan-18-10 03:02 PM |
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if they are not going to get a pension why should they pay? |
AlphaCentauri |
Jan-18-10 03:27 PM |
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No, it shouldn't |
DatManFromNawlins |
Jan-18-10 10:24 PM |
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Well, the H1 visa won't allow them to become citizens |
AlphaCentauri |
Jan-18-10 11:51 PM |
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Right. Because H1s never get green cards or eventually apply for citizenship. |
DatManFromNawlins |
Jan-19-10 02:29 PM |
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H1B does not qualify one for a green card |
varun |
Jan-19-10 08:08 PM |
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If banks can dog consumers with a billion fees then I consider this a fee for working here. |
hollowdweller |
Jan-18-10 09:53 PM |
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Hold it! Has anyone realized yet that...................... |
LongTomH |
Jan-19-10 12:58 PM |
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