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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:03 AM
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12. Also remember - all the funds awarded under the guise of promoting
democracy are awarded to the same people who circle the money back to the pockets of Congressmen and women.

'Democraticizing' other countries is big business - especially when we are not a Democracy any longer - and because it is conducted by alliances of people in the Republican right wing and now Democrats who are really right wing (called right of center).

It is right against left using top down fear (hate) tactics.

Two brilliant people (Obama and Clinton) should be able to start using skills of negotiation, but the Cuban-American package is still firmly in place and the target is not just Cuba - the entire apparatus is out to regain control of Central and South America - observe the fear and hate through threats and subversive acts.

And never forget that our money is making certain people more wealthy everyday.

It is sad for mankind that we have so much money going into acquiring earth recources for a few.

Never have they said they are doing it for the citizens of this country. Corporate over people. The mad rush for a few to own it all and control it all. To say it in historic terms - kings and serfs.

The evidence is right in our faces - the end goal is a wide split.

Yes, the end goal is a wide split.

And we do not respect the people of any other country on this earth.
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  -Cuba President Raul Castro lashes out at Barack Obama demoleft  Dec-21-09 05:00 AM   #0 
  - Hey, Raul - Obama is OUR President. We can kick him because we voted for him.  old mark   Dec-21-09 05:22 AM   #1 
  - Your lack of respect for a country's leader  Marthian   Dec-21-09 07:03 AM   #8 
  - Since when are "leaders" ROYALTY. We're democratic people, not SUBJECTS!1 n/t  UTUSN   Dec-21-09 10:01 AM   #15 
  - Cubans  Marthian   Dec-21-09 01:23 PM   #26 
     - Democracies don't have lifetime leaders.  hack89   Dec-22-09 02:16 PM   #49 
  - Fuck the Castro brothers and that murdering incompetent pig Che, too.  old mark   Dec-22-09 08:12 AM   #36 
  - Oh... come on all revolutions involve murder n/t  AlphaCentauri   Dec-22-09 11:07 AM   #39 
     - Not sure that excuses their crimes.  YouTakeTheSkyway   Dec-22-09 02:34 PM   #53 
     - The "bolivarian revolution" didn't involve murder I believe. nt.  ChangoLoa   Dec-22-09 10:04 PM   #63 
  - That's the problem with the theory that,  SOCALS   Dec-22-09 12:16 PM   #43 
  - or maybe because they want to seat an talk  AlphaCentauri   Dec-22-09 12:21 PM   #45 
     - I still think that using  SOCALS   Dec-22-09 12:31 PM   #46 
        - well for them our government has been authoritarian in their internal affairs n/t  AlphaCentauri   Dec-22-09 12:36 PM   #48 
  - Maybe you should learn it's OK...  MellowDem   Dec-22-09 07:26 PM   #61 
  - Old Mark can go fuck himself, too.  Flaneur   Dec-21-09 11:17 AM   #20 
  - He sees Cuba's future, and a dictator named Castro won't be running it.  Ikonoklast   Dec-21-09 05:22 AM   #2 
  - I'm cutting Obama some slack here. I'm not convinced he knows what the CIA does at any given time.  no_hypocrisy   Dec-21-09 05:42 AM   #3 
  - I hope for a Cuban revolution  Syrinx   Dec-21-09 05:42 AM   #4 
  - +1.... Soon come?  ChangoLoa   Dec-22-09 10:55 AM   #37 
     - A "left-wing democratic" revolution would privatize anything they could  AlphaCentauri   Dec-22-09 11:13 AM   #40 
        - Do you have divination skills?  ChangoLoa   Dec-22-09 12:06 PM   #42 
           - Most governments in latin america have been to the left of any US administration  AlphaCentauri   Dec-22-09 12:17 PM   #44 
              - Right  ChangoLoa   Dec-22-09 06:52 PM   #60 
                 - In Venezuela there are many who are eager to imitate the US corporate democracy  AlphaCentauri   Dec-22-09 08:57 PM   #62 
                    - I don't think so. We're not in a 2002 situation inside. nt.  ChangoLoa   Dec-22-09 10:06 PM   #64 
  - Obama/Clinton are continuing the Bush policy of USAID funding of rightwing groups  Peace Patriot   Dec-21-09 06:26 AM   #5 
  - Obama/*Clinton* -- ?  Dogmudgeon   Dec-21-09 06:35 AM   #6 
  - Obama's Mom worked for USAID  pjt7   Dec-21-09 06:40 AM   #7 
  - I don't understand your comment. Clinton is Obama's Secretary of State.  Peace Patriot   Dec-21-09 07:31 AM   #9 
  - No one is laughing with you.  ronnie624   Dec-21-09 10:23 AM   #16 
  - Our government does not support democracy  12string   Dec-21-09 08:48 AM   #11 
  - I agree. It's total hypocritical bullshit.  Peace Patriot   Dec-21-09 09:10 AM   #13 
  - Not a discovery... your government supports its interests  ChangoLoa   Dec-22-09 10:59 AM   #38 
  - That's kind of obvious with our treatment of Honduras  Goldstein1984   Dec-21-09 02:56 PM   #35 
  - If Kool and the Gang was doing a show in Havana...  groundloop   Dec-21-09 08:36 AM   #10 
  - That is pretty much how it works, yes. n/t  EFerrari   Dec-21-09 10:24 AM   #17 
  - i do not feel destroyed and culturally subdued...  demoleft   Dec-21-09 01:29 PM   #27 
     - My point was much smaller than you give me credit for.  EFerrari   Dec-21-09 01:48 PM   #31 
        - whatever your point, it is always a pleasure. hehe. ciao. n/t  demoleft   Dec-21-09 02:32 PM   #33 
  - Business as usual like it was with the baseball players  AlphaCentauri   Dec-22-09 11:36 AM   #41 
  - Well played, Sir!  boppers   Dec-22-09 06:20 PM   #56 
  - Also remember - all the funds awarded under the guise of promoting  peacetalksforall   Dec-21-09 09:03 AM   #12 
  - It's WAY past time  GreenArrow   Dec-21-09 09:40 AM   #14 
  - Good for Castro!  Vidar   Dec-21-09 10:36 AM   #18 
  - :) n/t  demoleft   Dec-21-09 11:37 AM   #23 
  - Yes, god forbid we try and loosen Castro's grip on the country.  Arkana   Dec-21-09 11:12 AM   #19 
  - Absolutely. God forbid we try to interfere in Cuba's internal affairs.  Flaneur   Dec-21-09 11:24 AM   #21 
     - Americans, first remove the mote from your own eye.  Flaneur   Dec-21-09 11:25 AM   #22 
        - We get to remove portions every 2 years.  boppers   Dec-22-09 06:22 PM   #57 
  - Fuck Castro.  proteus_lives   Dec-21-09 11:44 AM   #24 
  - What unbelievable naivete.  Marthian   Dec-21-09 01:31 PM   #28 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-21-09 01:36 PM   #29 
  - amen , brother  SOCALS   Dec-22-09 12:33 PM   #47 
  - By the same logic, you can complain about our 50 year war on Cuba  EFerrari   Dec-22-09 02:20 PM   #50 
     - Can people vote for someone else in Cuba?  proteus_lives   Dec-22-09 02:27 PM   #51 
        - Do you have any clue about how votes are counted here?  EFerrari   Dec-22-09 02:28 PM   #52 
           - You didn't answer my question.  proteus_lives   Dec-22-09 05:08 PM   #54 
              - No, I was too busy pointing out your hypocrisy.  EFerrari   Dec-22-09 05:55 PM   #55 
                 - Yeah, we have our own issues.  proteus_lives   Dec-22-09 06:50 PM   #59 
  - Another reason to love one's own country  fascisthunter   Dec-21-09 01:20 PM   #25 
  - Kool!  Jim Sagle   Dec-21-09 01:43 PM   #30 
  - And when Cuban musicians have tried to perform in Miami, Cuban right-wing terrorists threaten them  Judi Lynn   Dec-21-09 02:27 PM   #32 
  - Adding useful article on Miami "exiles" for people who could use some information:  Judi Lynn   Dec-21-09 02:38 PM   #34 
  - The contractor was "supply[ing] dissidents"... with phones and computers.  boppers   Dec-22-09 06:26 PM   #58 

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