| 160. I called my senator's offices, and Harry Reid's, too.l |
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Then I called Nancy Pelosi's office and whined
to them, too.
It IS time....
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| -Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG' |
kpete |
Dec-16-09 09:40 AM |
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Maybe It's A Strategy To Get Repugs To Vote For It.....(sarcasm) nt |
global1 |
Dec-16-09 09:43 AM |
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And you think that was sarcasm? I think there is some truth in that statement. |
1776Forever |
Dec-16-09 09:55 AM |
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If the bill passes and goes to reconciliation AND it doesnt change for the better ... |
zoff |
Dec-16-09 02:11 PM |
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Torches ... check! |
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Dec-17-09 02:31 PM |
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I'm so sorry that happened to you, your son and your family. MS is stressful enough, even with ins. |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 03:44 AM |
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LMAO... part of that 3 dimensional chess eom |
Garam_Masala |
Dec-16-09 07:35 PM |
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3D chess is not for Dr. Dean. He is both human--and forthright. |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 03:49 AM |
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One of the few people who speaks for "We The PEOPLE" |
bkohatlanta |
Dec-16-09 10:50 PM |
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It wasn't that Dean screamed |
newspeak |
Dec-17-09 12:09 PM |
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Sadly, only 2 people you named are on the public payroll, yet we employ thousands. |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 03:58 AM |
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Sorry, Russ Feingold, Bernie Sanders and a small group of |
pokercat999 |
Dec-17-09 04:46 AM |
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Please add Dennis and Ron to your list! |
DonkeyHoTay |
Dec-18-09 11:04 AM |
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Milbank's eye opening op-ed on senators who voted against lower prescript. drug costs |
wordpix |
Dec-17-09 08:02 AM |
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Rec for Dean. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Dec-16-09 09:43 AM |
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call your representatives tell them to vote NO /nt |
still_one |
Dec-16-09 09:44 AM |
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Honestly, while I respect him, he was fine with the bill when it had the Medicare buy-in |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-16-09 10:01 AM |
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That buy in would have affected millions of people. |
PassingFair |
Dec-16-09 10:05 AM |
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Not sure that it would have, because the premiums were looking |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-16-09 10:10 AM |
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You may not be sure, but I am. |
PassingFair |
Dec-16-09 10:29 AM |
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Not all of the reforms have been removed. The purpose of any public |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-16-09 10:34 AM |
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It does nothing to determine how MUCH they can charge for those pre-existing condition plans. |
PassingFair |
Dec-16-09 10:39 AM |
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The exchange goes hand in hand with the subsidy program, if I understand it correctly. |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-16-09 11:00 AM |
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We need to push for reconciliation. |
PassingFair |
Dec-16-09 11:16 AM |
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If we pass this bill, then yes, I would want at least some additional |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-16-09 11:24 AM |
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If this bill is passed, I predict that nothing else will happen. |
PassingFair |
Dec-16-09 11:35 AM |
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Eh, we're probably going to get hosed no matter what is or isn't passed, or |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-16-09 11:37 AM |
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That is why we need REAL reform. |
PassingFair |
Dec-16-09 11:41 AM |
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and those government subsidies go directly to the for profit insurance |
newspeak |
Dec-17-09 12:19 PM |
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YES, You just made the MOST IMPORTANT POINT eom |
Garam_Masala |
Dec-16-09 08:59 PM |
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The combo of a mandate AND no public option makes this bill exactly what Dean calls it: A bigger |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 04:06 AM |
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Where do you get these numbers for the Medicare buy in option? |
nbsmom |
Dec-16-09 09:10 PM |
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I can't remember where I saw them, but I remember reading that |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-17-09 12:16 AM |
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a medicare buy-in should be dependent upon your wages |
newspeak |
Dec-17-09 12:04 PM |
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Precisely. Dean is a reasonable man and he was making an effort, but they threw it back in our faces |
patrice |
Dec-16-09 12:53 PM |
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Frankly, I commend Dean for being so committed to get something that may help people |
liberation |
Dec-16-09 06:08 PM |
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He has nothing to gain, nor lose, by not buying into the talking point that "we have to pass |
patrice |
Dec-16-09 09:21 PM |
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Emanuel? Is that where the buck stops now, with the President's handpicked Chief of Staff? LOL. |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 04:18 AM |
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I called my senator's offices, and Harry Reid's, too.l |
PassingFair |
Dec-17-09 06:38 AM |
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It wouldn't have affected that many people? |
Jefferson23 |
Dec-16-09 10:07 AM |
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But the proposal would not have applied to anyone who wanted it-- |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-16-09 10:13 AM |
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He is opposed to it as there exists no cost controls among other problems with it. |
Jefferson23 |
Dec-16-09 10:32 AM |
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dean was willing to settle for something that may have been a start toward |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 04:14 AM |
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Even With The High Premiums For The 55 to 64 Age Group...... |
global1 |
Dec-16-09 10:14 AM |
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I agree with much of what you say-- |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-16-09 10:21 AM |
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Sometimes I think our language on this site creates reality, even when reality is not really that |
earcandle |
Dec-16-09 09:44 PM |
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? Problems with bills do not get weeded out in implementation phases. |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 04:28 AM |
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What has your party done for you? |
pundaint |
Dec-17-09 07:47 AM |
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Nastiness not called for. |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-16-09 10:22 AM |
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Maybe not. But what the fuck about common sense??? You and......... |
pattmarty |
Dec-16-09 10:33 AM |
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and that's it |
newspeak |
Dec-17-09 12:27 PM |
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No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 04:32 AM |
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Love your sunflower |
pscot |
Dec-16-09 02:14 PM |
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Pattmarty, I like your style. You are absolutely correct. Well said! |
Iowa |
Dec-16-09 02:24 PM |
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I think that, like me, you have found out that Dean is to the right of you |
Zodiak |
Dec-16-09 12:04 PM |
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No, I'm actually to the right of Dean--I'm more centrist than liberal. |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-16-09 12:12 PM |
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You're probably right |
Zodiak |
Dec-16-09 12:27 PM |
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Only 20% of the nation identifies itself as Republican, while Bush once had an approval rating of |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 04:47 AM |
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Nice post. nt |
Enthusiast |
Dec-17-09 09:09 AM |
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What Lynn Woolsey had to say |
groovedaddy |
Dec-16-09 12:44 PM |
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I agree with that. I just don't think the PO or the Medicare buy-in, as proposed, were |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-16-09 12:58 PM |
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"Kinda narrow" is still better than " totally absent." |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 05:24 AM |
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Oh, I agree--I would certainly rather have them than not. But I don't know that |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-17-09 08:50 AM |
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"can't believe it's just the absence of the buy-in" |
Mithreal |
Dec-16-09 04:11 PM |
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Of course not, it's because there's no REFORM, it's a gift |
mother earth |
Dec-16-09 06:10 PM |
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I have an idea... to make this all clean and consistent... |
tomm2thumbs |
Dec-16-09 10:06 AM |
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Thank you Dr. Dean. Tell it like it is. n/t |
coyote |
Dec-16-09 10:12 AM |
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Has any one administration had such a mania for giving taxpayer money to private corps? |
Romulox |
Dec-16-09 10:24 AM |
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Oh, Junior did a pretty good job of diverting our resources to military contractors. |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-16-09 10:26 AM |
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Right. Then Obama *raised* military spending, kept all the same people in charge. |
Romulox |
Dec-16-09 10:31 AM |
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And Obama's doing the same "diverting our resources" to the................. |
pattmarty |
Dec-16-09 11:36 AM |
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Yabbut You Know What's REALLY Funny? |
NashVegas |
Dec-16-09 12:41 PM |
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A little "double dipping"? I am not against the Capital system per se..................... |
pattmarty |
Dec-16-09 01:38 PM |
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I should say so! |
Enthusiast |
Dec-17-09 09:00 AM |
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yes. |
rapturedbyrobots |
Dec-16-09 01:19 PM |
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It's more than that. |
edc |
Dec-16-09 06:49 PM |
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Hardly. There was never a stronger move |
Enthusiast |
Dec-17-09 09:06 AM |
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I think it's time Howard.... |
DirtyDawg |
Dec-16-09 10:27 AM |
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That's right, its Emanuel's fault. Don't blame Obama |
ArcticFox |
Dec-16-09 01:27 PM |
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Obama is an adult. & he choose Rahm, & yet many act like Obama is the |
truedelphi |
Dec-16-09 04:29 PM |
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Obama has his own mind. And why do you think he picked Rahm anyway? |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 04:57 AM |
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The rotten is the enemy of the good. |
Metta |
Dec-16-09 11:31 AM |
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And the absolutely rotten is the enemy absolutely. |
change_notfinetuning |
Dec-16-09 12:40 PM |
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K&R. |
Vidar |
Dec-16-09 11:43 AM |
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And if the bill were killed here is what would happen |
YewNork |
Dec-16-09 12:13 PM |
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There wouldn't be any trillion dollar bailout of the insurance industry paid for by taxpayers! |
Better Believe It |
Dec-16-09 12:25 PM |
#39 |
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So lets dig our graves even deeper! |
ArcticFox |
Dec-16-09 01:45 PM |
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Well |
Sherman A1 |
Dec-16-09 06:22 PM |
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Don't sit them out. That sends, at best, an unclear message. |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 05:15 AM |
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Oh, I will most likely vote |
Sherman A1 |
Dec-17-09 06:10 AM |
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We need to vote |
Enthusiast |
Dec-17-09 09:25 AM |
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Maybe, but even worse will happen to the nation and the Party if we pass a POS. |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 05:09 AM |
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Somebody's getting ready to run for President!!! n/t |
galileoreloaded |
Dec-16-09 12:17 PM |
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More like: " Somebody CARES about the American People"... |
PassingFair |
Dec-16-09 12:26 PM |
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I worked for him in 2004 |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-16-09 01:44 PM |
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HIGHLY unlikely. (Unfortunately) |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 05:19 AM |
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At the least, the mandated insurance clause should be stripped! n/t |
dmosh42 |
Dec-16-09 12:27 PM |
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I'm so disgusted. |
Zoeisright |
Dec-16-09 12:30 PM |
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we can move |
rapturedbyrobots |
Dec-16-09 01:23 PM |
#54 |
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No, WE can't move. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-16-09 01:46 PM |
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maybe you can't |
rapturedbyrobots |
Dec-16-09 03:49 PM |
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I wish Dean would run against Obama in the 2012 primaries. |
totodeinhere |
Dec-16-09 12:35 PM |
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He'd need to run 3rd party. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-16-09 01:48 PM |
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I wouldn't support a thrid party. But... |
totodeinhere |
Dec-16-09 02:00 PM |
#64 |
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Yes, but in 1980 |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-16-09 02:18 PM |
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Hillary is at least as corporate and conservative as Obama, if not more so. |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 05:50 AM |
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Zactly. nt |
Enthusiast |
Dec-17-09 09:31 AM |
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Hillary is as Conservative as Obama. They both push the agenda of the DLC (nt) |
NorthCarolina |
Dec-17-09 08:35 AM |
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Yes, Kennedy did that, but he lost the primary and then Carter lost the general to |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 05:34 AM |
#151 |
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President Obama's Press Secretary Robert Gibbs did the Dean/bin Laden flash ad when he was working |
bobthedrummer |
Dec-16-09 07:01 PM |
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Yep, especially the DLC, with the help of the media, of course. But Democratic |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 05:28 AM |
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Mine too |
Bushknew |
Dec-16-09 03:44 PM |
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Mine too |
MissDeeds |
Dec-16-09 04:38 PM |
#79 |
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+1 For Dean.. |
Illuminated |
Dec-17-09 09:18 AM |
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Drop the Health Care "Reform" Bill and start over |
Goldstein1984 |
Dec-16-09 12:47 PM |
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The bill has no chance of passing now. |
neuvocat |
Dec-16-09 12:47 PM |
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Recommend |
xchrom |
Dec-16-09 01:17 PM |
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Thank you, Dr. Dean. |
democrank |
Dec-16-09 01:26 PM |
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Pull back the curtain Dean !!!! |
harun |
Dec-16-09 01:29 PM |
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It's WAAAYYY past time for him |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-16-09 01:49 PM |
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HOWARD DEAN FOR PRESIDENT. Seriously. We need true leadership, not corporate whoredom. n/t |
NoodleyAppendage |
Dec-16-09 02:59 PM |
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Right -- because it's our job to save capitalism from itself, but not our citizens!!! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-16-09 03:13 PM |
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K&R |
girl_interrupted |
Dec-16-09 03:26 PM |
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The Dr. is always right... |
nradisic |
Dec-16-09 03:35 PM |
#72 |
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Have you checked out the first page of the DFA website lately? |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 06:06 AM |
#154 |
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Those poor old insurance companies need a break more than granny |
Hubert Flottz |
Dec-16-09 03:49 PM |
#75 |
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Thi is from someone w expertise and no strings to lobbyists or corporate interest. |
mod mom |
Dec-16-09 04:37 PM |
#78 |
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K&R for Dean! |
MissDeeds |
Dec-16-09 04:43 PM |
#80 |
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Oh shit. |
BobRossi |
Dec-16-09 04:51 PM |
#81 |
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Howard Dean's motivation... |
hgovernick |
Dec-16-09 05:07 PM |
#82 |
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The Dr. knows what is talking about. And I trust him too. |
midnight |
Dec-16-09 05:38 PM |
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SNAP! |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Dec-16-09 05:31 PM |
#83 |
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Make a bill we can be proud of..... |
Hulk |
Dec-16-09 06:00 PM |
#85 |
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hurt joe petition |
julian09 |
Dec-16-09 07:04 PM |
#92 |
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Dean is actually representing "We the people", K & R, and he's |
mother earth |
Dec-16-09 06:12 PM |
#88 |
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Just say no to "Lieberman Health Care Reform" |
Canuckistanian |
Dec-16-09 07:09 PM |
#93 |
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YES! Big Pharma and Big Insurance will get $900 Billion |
Garam_Masala |
Dec-16-09 07:33 PM |
#94 |
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By 2014 the system will have completely collapsed |
lovuian |
Dec-16-09 07:53 PM |
#96 |
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Why wait until 2014 to rise up? And, if we don't rise up before then, we probably never will. |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 06:04 AM |
#153 |
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So what's it gonna take to rid ourselves of our corporate overlords? |
Initech |
Dec-16-09 08:08 PM |
#97 |
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American R E V O L U T I O N eom |
Garam_Masala |
Dec-16-09 08:55 PM |
#101 |
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If Dean runs for the presidency, I guarantee my vote to him... |
Bushknew |
Dec-16-09 08:11 PM |
#98 |
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Yes, I wanted him over the French looking John Kerry eom |
Garam_Masala |
Dec-16-09 08:56 PM |
#102 |
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Just a reminder that Kerry voted |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-09 07:29 AM |
#162 |
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Gov. Dean would have made a good President. |
Bette Noir |
Dec-16-09 08:19 PM |
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Mainly because he so doggone HONEST |
Garam_Masala |
Dec-16-09 08:57 PM |
#103 |
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Dean's right |
gelinas |
Dec-16-09 08:43 PM |
#100 |
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I watched Dean on Matthews tonite and I applauded Matthews. And even Marcos of Daily Kos was |
felinetta |
Dec-16-09 08:59 PM |
#104 |
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Yet one more reason why we must take money out of political campaigns |
reformist |
Dec-16-09 08:59 PM |
#105 |
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The bill sucks, and the "mandate" that Obama battled Hillary on in the primaries will hurt many. nt |
NorthCarolina |
Dec-16-09 09:17 PM |
#107 |
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can't they just alter the bill to include single payer and pass it before Christmas? |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Dec-16-09 09:35 PM |
#109 |
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obama's okay with this? Interesting... so big Pharma and insurance corporations |
nightrain |
Dec-16-09 09:39 PM |
#110 |
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Mr. President, you fucked up. |
lonestarnot |
Dec-16-09 09:56 PM |
#112 |
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That he did. n/t |
deacon |
Dec-16-09 10:34 PM |
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Dec-17-09 02:37 AM |
#130 |
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Obama will go down as another failed president on health care if he signs this travesty. |
deacon |
Dec-16-09 10:32 PM |
#113 |
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K&R - FUCK the Fascist "Individual Mandate"! |
New Dawn |
Dec-16-09 10:42 PM |
#115 |
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The Olberman Position.. |
Illuminated |
Dec-17-09 09:20 AM |
#175 |
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KILL THE BILL! |
Odin2005 |
Dec-16-09 10:51 PM |
#117 |
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okay we all |
mstinamotorcity |
Dec-16-09 11:17 PM |
#118 |
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Obama is supporting the bill you call a hot piece of shit, but you don't want to blame him? |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 06:16 AM |
#156 |
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No i don't |
mstinamotorcity |
Dec-17-09 07:44 AM |
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Do you really think that.. |
butterfly77 |
Dec-17-09 12:29 PM |
#190 |
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PASS THE DAMN BILL WITH SINGLE PAYER FIRST... |
BanTheGOP |
Dec-17-09 01:23 AM |
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#131 |
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Yes! Yes! Yes! |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 06:43 AM |
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#121 |
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glad your posting |
mdmc |
Dec-17-09 03:54 AM |
#134 |
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It's all we can get ONLY if we accept that it is all we can get. |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 06:23 AM |
#157 |
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Over 600 posts ago, I was the same way when I ex-pat out of the States |
Suji to Seoul |
Dec-17-09 04:19 AM |
#139 |
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Please see Reply 146. |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 06:27 AM |
#158 |
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Welcome back. n/t |
JTFrog |
Dec-17-09 05:30 AM |
#150 |
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The answer is that they're all |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-09 07:32 AM |
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Wow, you are *so* 'progressive' and 'liberal' and stuff. |
ronnie624 |
Dec-18-09 12:19 AM |
#192 |
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CONTACT your Rep and your Senators and tell them that you agree with Dr. Dean and will work |
No Elephants |
Dec-17-09 06:32 AM |
#159 |
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I've been doing that for days now...... |
icee |
Dec-17-09 09:06 AM |
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So, did AIG weaken everything so much that what we are REALLY doing here is another Bailout? |
patrice |
Dec-17-09 08:00 AM |
#166 |
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let's call it what it really is: A SCAM |
Skittles |
Dec-17-09 09:35 AM |
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