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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #92
110. Possibly
but I would argue that most forms of energy production on a mass scale involves some danger. Especially in the first few years of development, before all the kinks are worked out.
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  -PG&E gets OK for space-based solar project bananas  Dec-03-09 04:13 PM   #0 
  - Longer article at the NY Times  bananas   Dec-03-09 04:25 PM   #1 
  - This guy has had a GREAT PR Agency - been making these announcements for 5 years...  Techn0Girl   Dec-03-09 05:35 PM   #19 
     - Getting a Power Purchase Agreement is a major milestone for any project.  kristopher   Dec-03-09 05:51 PM   #23 
        - The cash stream is only guaranteed IF he produces power...  Techn0Girl   Dec-03-09 08:40 PM   #45 
           - That is exactly right. If and only IF they produce power.  kristopher   Dec-03-09 08:55 PM   #49 
              - That is the key point.  Statistical   Dec-04-09 10:28 AM   #60 
                 - That isn't correct.  kristopher   Dec-04-09 11:27 AM   #64 
                    - I guess I wasn't clear.  Statistical   Dec-04-09 11:42 AM   #69 
                       - Well put.  kristopher   Dec-04-09 11:52 AM   #72 
  - It does :) Proud to live here! k & r. nt  t0dd   Dec-03-09 04:28 PM   #2 
  - As much as I'd like for this idea to work, I just don't see how  groundloop   Dec-03-09 04:35 PM   #3 
  - NASA has studied this extensively  bananas   Dec-03-09 04:42 PM   #5 
  - X Prise Foundation thinks is may be possible  liberal N proud   Dec-03-09 05:05 PM   #9 
  - Oh It's definetilt possible - just not by Soleron  Techn0Girl   Dec-03-09 05:27 PM   #15 
  - The idea is to build the rectanna large enough so the watt per square inch is low.  Statistical   Dec-04-09 10:32 AM   #61 
  - Do a Google on 'Solaren Corp'...  Techn0Girl   Dec-03-09 04:39 PM   #4 
  - PG&E isn't giving away any money  bananas   Dec-03-09 04:54 PM   #6 
     - Actually quite a few million has been promised ...  Techn0Girl   Dec-03-09 05:02 PM   #7 
        - THE CEO CONTRIBUTED TO THE SWIFT BOAT VETERANS CAMPAIGN....  Techn0Girl   Dec-03-09 05:16 PM   #11 
        - oh gee $100  bananas   Dec-03-09 05:19 PM   #12 
           - Open you mind. This is not a war between you and I....  Techn0Girl   Dec-03-09 05:27 PM   #14 
              - Open your mind  bananas   Dec-03-09 05:59 PM   #26 
                 - Open your heart...  DRoseDARs   Dec-03-09 08:06 PM   #36 
        - Your "evaluation" sucks.  kristopher   Dec-03-09 06:07 PM   #29 
           - Ummm... Thanks for your ... informed ... opinion.  Techn0Girl   Dec-03-09 08:33 PM   #44 
           - I'd rather have the discussion in public, but thank you.  kristopher   Dec-03-09 08:43 PM   #47 
              - Why Is The Possibility That This Might Be A Scam So Hard To Believe?  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 10:01 AM   #59 
                 - It is a smear campaign, not substantive criticism.  kristopher   Dec-04-09 11:23 AM   #63 
                    - I Don't See Her Accusations As Baseless  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 11:29 AM   #65 
                       - Totally baseless.  kristopher   Dec-04-09 11:39 AM   #67 
                          - Meh, Not That Impressed W/ This  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 11:45 AM   #70 
                             - It could be a scam, any investment COULD be a scam. But Technogirl's claims are baseless.  kristopher   Dec-04-09 11:55 AM   #74 
                                - Your Claims Are Just As Baseless  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 12:00 PM   #77 
                                   - What "large power conglomerate"?  kristopher   Dec-04-09 12:19 PM   #80 
                                      - You Claim TG Has Some Personal Agenda  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 12:24 PM   #83 
                                         - It isn't "healthy skepticism" it is a smear campaign.  kristopher   Dec-04-09 12:25 PM   #85 
                                            - LOL! Thank You Mr. Webster!  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 12:30 PM   #89 
                                               - Some things are self evident.  kristopher   Dec-04-09 12:35 PM   #93 
                                                  - Oh, Indeed They Are, You're Taking This Very Personally  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 12:37 PM   #96 
                                                  - I don't like liars.  kristopher   Dec-04-09 12:38 PM   #99 
                                                  - Oh, You Are So Noble!  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 12:40 PM   #101 
                                                  - I do have high ethical standards and an excellent education  kristopher   Dec-04-09 12:45 PM   #105 
                                                  - And You're Very Humble  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 12:48 PM   #108 
                                                  - Not particularly.  kristopher   Dec-04-09 05:22 PM   #111 
                                                  - Don't Forget Handsome  Beetwasher   Dec-05-09 09:42 AM   #123 
           - "Their website looks like it was made by a twelve year old."?  boppers   Dec-05-09 01:55 AM   #118 
              - Those are totally false claims. "nuff said".  kristopher   Dec-05-09 12:53 PM   #127 
  - Sounds like it's for proof of concept.  MilesColtrane   Dec-03-09 05:02 PM   #8 
  - Wow!  Robb   Dec-03-09 05:08 PM   #10 
  - Aha! Here's the Scam - PG&E Gets to count this as it's "Renewable Energy Quota"  Techn0Girl   Dec-03-09 05:24 PM   #13 
  - Nope  bananas   Dec-03-09 05:28 PM   #16 
  - It's a scam - pure and simple  Techn0Girl   Dec-03-09 05:31 PM   #18 
     - It is a very workable idea...  and-justice-for-all   Dec-03-09 05:56 PM   #24 
     - I agree on both counts!  Techn0Girl   Dec-03-09 08:14 PM   #37 
        - Oh, the company....  and-justice-for-all   Dec-04-09 02:41 AM   #55 
     - There's a link to their patent in the NYT article upthread. nt  bananas   Dec-03-09 06:02 PM   #27 
        - Have you looked at it?  Techn0Girl   Dec-03-09 08:16 PM   #38 
           - Yes, I looked at it earlier this year  bananas   Dec-03-09 09:44 PM   #50 
              - Well he's had 5 years now... Has he answered...  Techn0Girl   Dec-03-09 09:56 PM   #51 
  - Only if it actually generates energy.  David__77   Dec-03-09 06:18 PM   #32 
  - Damn, You May Be On To Something  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 09:54 AM   #57 
  - Regulators are allowing PG&E to BUY POWER from the solar station  Statistical   Dec-05-09 09:38 AM   #122 
  - ? What are they going to do? Microwave everyone in fresno?  Piewhacket   Dec-03-09 05:30 PM   #17 
  - I do wonder why they feel the need to invest in space based solar when the U.S.  Uncle Joe   Dec-03-09 05:37 PM   #20 
  - Because it's cheaper to throw away a few million into a PR campaign ...  Techn0Girl   Dec-03-09 05:39 PM   #21 
  - there's investment out there too:  Soylent Brice   Dec-03-09 05:44 PM   #22 
  - Because there is ZERO infrastructure to transmit that energy to the rest of the country.  DRoseDARs   Dec-03-09 05:58 PM   #25 
  - We do need a smart grid, but the more I think about it, space based solar could have one advantage  Uncle Joe   Dec-03-09 06:13 PM   #30 
     - Well, not really gonna help in that regard for now. You don't use a matchstick to heat a house.  DRoseDARs   Dec-03-09 07:52 PM   #34 
        - Edit period has passed, so I'll post my edit as a reply:  DRoseDARs   Dec-03-09 08:54 PM   #48 
        - That's really an amazing analysis...  Techn0Girl   Dec-03-09 10:12 PM   #53 
        - What the hell is that supposed to mean and why are you attacking me?  DRoseDARs   Dec-03-09 11:36 PM   #54 
        - Your understanding of the energy resource potential is flawed  kristopher   Dec-04-09 11:35 AM   #66 
           - Your understanding of what I posted is flawed  DRoseDARs   Dec-04-09 10:30 PM   #115 
              - Not really.  kristopher   Dec-05-09 01:04 AM   #116 
                 - Fair enough, and thank you for NOT just copy/pasting a summary to a report  DRoseDARs   Dec-05-09 01:31 AM   #117 
                    - The nuclear picture is bleak worldwide because of costs.  kristopher   Dec-05-09 01:57 AM   #119 
  - Trasmitting electricity over long distances is very inefficient  JonQ   Dec-04-09 11:54 AM   #73 
  - Seems like it would be cheaper to have people install solar panels on their homes.  Arctic Dave   Dec-03-09 06:04 PM   #28 
  - Well... Solar does not provide enough wattage....  Techn0Girl   Dec-03-09 08:22 PM   #41 
     - I beg to differ, with a caveat.  boppers   Dec-05-09 10:35 PM   #132 
  - Looks cool, hope it's real  cowcommander   Dec-03-09 06:18 PM   #31 
  - It's not real - just hype  Techn0Girl   Dec-03-09 08:18 PM   #39 
  - Isn't all solar energy technically space-based?  AngryAmish   Dec-03-09 06:27 PM   #33 
  - Well, Ceiling Cat can...  DRoseDARs   Dec-03-09 07:59 PM   #35 
  - Why would you do space-based solar when...  TCJ70   Dec-03-09 08:20 PM   #40 
  - Well Space based solar is actually a LOT more efficient...  Techn0Girl   Dec-03-09 08:27 PM   #42 
  - Yeah, I read the part about the advantages...  TCJ70   Dec-03-09 08:32 PM   #43 
  - Hugely expensive 2 get the kind of generation we nd; insufficient power grid 2 transmit the energy  DRoseDARs   Dec-03-09 08:41 PM   #46 
     - Japan is planning a 1GW system by 2030  bananas   Dec-03-09 10:09 PM   #52 
  - Sweet!  Odin2005   Dec-04-09 08:19 AM   #56 
  - See Techno Girl's Posts  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 09:55 AM   #58 
     - Why, her posts are nothing but sleazy, unfounded smears by someone with an agenda.  kristopher   Dec-04-09 11:41 AM   #68 
        - Says You  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 11:47 AM   #71 
           - Then list a single substantive criticism by her.  kristopher   Dec-04-09 11:58 AM   #76 
              - Well, She Hasn't Convinced Me, But Neither Have You  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 12:03 PM   #78 
                 - "Please post a substantive criticism made by technogirl." You can't can you?  kristopher   Dec-04-09 12:15 PM   #79 
                    - Yes, I Have An Agenda, I'm An Evil Smear Merchant Because I Distrust Energy Companies  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 12:20 PM   #81 
                       - What large energy conglomerate is involved?  kristopher   Dec-04-09 12:22 PM   #82 
                       - Enron Is Perfectly Relevant  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 12:27 PM   #86 
                          - Enron is only relevant if you want to attempt to smear a totally different process  kristopher   Dec-04-09 12:30 PM   #88 
                             - Well, I'm Sure The "Process" Is Completely Uncorruptible And Totally Fair And Has Everyone's Best  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 12:32 PM   #90 
                                - Again, a smear based on insinuation and an attempt...  kristopher   Dec-04-09 12:36 PM   #95 
                                   - You're Taking This Very Personally  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 12:38 PM   #98 
                                      - I don't like right wing liars.  kristopher   Dec-04-09 12:39 PM   #100 
                                         - Oh, So Now There's A Right Wing Liar Involved???  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 12:40 PM   #102 
                                            - More like fossil fuel/nuclear PR companies trying to derail renewable enegy initiatives  kristopher   Dec-04-09 12:43 PM   #104 
                                               - You Know What Would Be A Really Sneaky Way To Do That?  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 12:47 PM   #107 
                                                  - We have regulators that have evaluated the proposal and found it to have merit.  kristopher   Dec-04-09 05:27 PM   #112 
                                                  - But yr Anonymous postings are much more trustworthy!  Beetwasher   Dec-05-09 09:46 AM   #125 
                                                  - The facts I offer are easy to verify - just look up the process for granting a PPA  kristopher   Dec-05-09 12:55 PM   #128 
                                                  - Doesn't Mean A Thing  Beetwasher   Dec-05-09 05:23 PM   #130 
                       - Note for record that you have not listed any valid criticisms that were offered by TG.  kristopher   Dec-04-09 12:24 PM   #84 
                          - Valid? According To You?  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 12:29 PM   #87 
                             - Baseless.  kristopher   Dec-04-09 12:34 PM   #91 
                                - LOL! Again, You're Just As Persuasive As She Is!  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 12:35 PM   #94 
                                   - Answer the reponses.  kristopher   Dec-04-09 12:38 PM   #97 
                                      - I Demand You Answer My Reponses!!  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 12:41 PM   #103 
                                         - Answer the reponses. You claim her assertions have a foundation - I showed they didn't  kristopher   Dec-04-09 12:46 PM   #106 
                                            - I Said They're Not Baseless  Beetwasher   Dec-04-09 12:50 PM   #109 
                                               - "flimsy base" = baseless  kristopher   Dec-04-09 05:28 PM   #113 
                                                  - Not impressed  Beetwasher   Dec-05-09 09:43 AM   #124 
                                                     - Of course you aren't/  kristopher   Dec-05-09 12:55 PM   #129 
                                                     - Tell That To My Shoe  Beetwasher   Dec-05-09 05:24 PM   #131 
  - How will the "Receiving Station" receive the energy?  fascisthunter   Dec-04-09 10:42 AM   #62 
  - I don't know about this one  JonQ   Dec-04-09 11:56 AM   #75 
     - interesting... sounds dangerous  fascisthunter   Dec-04-09 12:34 PM   #92 
        - Possibly  JonQ   Dec-04-09 12:57 PM   #110 
        - Not dangerous.  Statistical   Dec-05-09 09:33 AM   #121 
  - near existing transmission lines and dual purpose communications relay  BrightKnight   Dec-04-09 06:12 PM   #114 
  - Might as well put giant mirrors into space and direct them at Earth  tinrobot   Dec-05-09 02:04 AM   #120 
     - rectenna is about 85% efficient, produces less waste heat than virtually any other form of power.  Statistical   Dec-05-09 10:00 AM   #126 
        - And carbon dioxide is a trace gas so we can ignore its concentration?  kristopher   Dec-06-09 01:32 PM   #133 
           - No that is foolish analogy.  Statistical   Dec-06-09 10:58 PM   #134 
              - I understand the argument  kristopher   Dec-07-09 02:58 PM   #135 
 

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