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Sun Nov-29-09 01:49 PM
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| 71. You never hear Canada claim it's a hoax.... |
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Because it's happening in their own backyard.
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| -Permanent Arctic Ice Vanishing - Satellite Images Misled Shocked Scientists |
hatrack |
Nov-29-09 12:13 AM |
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That's why polar bears are becoming endangered species. n/t |
totodeinhere |
Nov-29-09 12:23 AM |
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On Inside Washington, Charles Krauthammer just said that the Polar Bears are doing just fine |
CreekDog |
Nov-29-09 12:30 AM |
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Why don't we put Kraphammer on an ice floe? |
Zoeisright |
Nov-29-09 01:15 AM |
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With a Polar Bear and her cubs... |
rasputin1952 |
Nov-29-09 06:13 AM |
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Haven't the poor polar bears suffered enough? n/t |
3waygeek |
Nov-29-09 06:44 AM |
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LOL...excellent point... |
rasputin1952 |
Nov-29-09 06:50 AM |
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Yeah, A Hungry One Whose Pissed Off At The World (nt) |
Dinger |
Nov-29-09 03:30 PM |
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+1 |
L0oniX |
Nov-29-09 07:37 PM |
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And Joe Lieberman because, well, he's Joe Lieberman. |
tblue |
Nov-29-09 12:39 PM |
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+1 |
valerief |
Nov-29-09 04:29 PM |
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Polar Bears are eating their young to survive |
Ichingcarpenter |
Nov-29-09 03:30 AM |
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I'm guessing the polar bear population in DC remains pretty stable. |
BobTheSubgenius |
Nov-29-09 03:44 AM |
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very stable. it's so stable theres still many Dinosaurs there, tho on life support from Corporations |
sam sarrha |
Nov-29-09 10:58 AM |
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Provided we can maintain zoos forever. |
caseymoz |
Nov-29-09 02:02 PM |
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Sauerkrauthammer is an ass...and an ugly one at that n/t |
TK421 |
Nov-29-09 05:01 PM |
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Ad hominem attack not necessary. |
Beartracks |
Nov-29-09 10:05 PM |
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Fine then....he is a colossal ass |
TK421 |
Nov-29-09 11:25 PM |
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His looks come from the inside. |
The Stranger |
Nov-30-09 11:38 AM |
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If only Krauthammer were the one extinct. |
The Stranger |
Nov-30-09 11:37 AM |
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To the Greatest Page with you. (n/t) |
area51 |
Nov-29-09 12:23 AM |
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Those scientists all went up there with their hair dryers to melt the ice! |
villager |
Nov-29-09 12:24 AM |
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It'z a hokes! |
The Doctor. |
Nov-29-09 12:51 AM |
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Won't you ECO-FREAKS ever give it a rest??!! Everybody knows this is Al Gore's plan to |
bertman |
Nov-29-09 01:04 AM |
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thank Gore, HE, 'invented' the internet! |
ShamelessHussy |
Nov-29-09 02:01 AM |
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It's the New World Order! That's why Gore let Shrub win in 2000! |
Ghost Dog |
Nov-29-09 05:09 AM |
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Okay. Let's say global warming does not exist. |
The Wielding Truth |
Nov-29-09 05:53 PM |
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Fixing the cultures of countries |
audas |
Nov-29-09 08:20 PM |
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That is not my point, It is the foolish goal of those who can't see a real answer. |
The Wielding Truth |
Nov-30-09 10:22 PM |
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Welcome to DU. When you are here longer you will know how we lean. |
The Wielding Truth |
Dec-01-09 01:26 PM |
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Nicely put . . . !! |
defendandprotect |
Nov-29-09 09:29 PM |
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Thank you. Doesn't it seem simple that we should work with nature |
The Wielding Truth |
Nov-30-09 10:24 PM |
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you are so misguided |
ldf |
Nov-30-09 08:10 PM |
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Good point, Greed really does blind so many from long term good. |
The Wielding Truth |
Nov-30-09 10:07 PM |
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K&R |
DeSwiss |
Nov-29-09 01:27 AM |
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And surprise surprise, the expedition conveniently forgot to bring a camera crew. |
Ysabela |
Nov-29-09 01:52 AM |
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Did they? |
Hissyspit |
Nov-29-09 02:00 AM |
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Your point? |
Hekate |
Nov-29-09 03:20 AM |
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Um, there are things called SATELLITES |
Canuckistanian |
Nov-29-09 07:27 AM |
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Sniff... |
trumad |
Nov-29-09 07:29 AM |
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This isn't "The Real Housewives of the Arctic Circle" |
tinrobot |
Nov-29-09 09:31 AM |
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I thought the article said the scientists were pissed because the satellite photos didn't |
bertman |
Nov-29-09 09:11 PM |
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Surprise, surprise, the corporate media conveniently forgot to publish photos |
AllyCat |
Nov-29-09 10:06 AM |
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I doubt that any sort of proof would suspend your delusion. |
Webster Green |
Nov-29-09 11:47 AM |
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so would you claim this was all a conspiracy... are you feeling ok? |
fascisthunter |
Nov-29-09 12:12 PM |
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Dick Barber and the Canadian Ice Service have multiple cameras recording ice aboard these ships |
jpak |
Nov-29-09 12:17 PM |
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Apparently, not frequently enough, if the "whole world" did not realize the thinness of this ice. |
No Elephants |
Nov-30-09 04:09 AM |
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This is better than photos. Take a look |
Quixote1818 |
Nov-29-09 12:23 PM |
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They are publishing them in the Geophysical Research Letters this month. |
Swede |
Nov-29-09 01:28 PM |
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Don't pee your pants! |
cartach |
Nov-29-09 01:42 PM |
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Nothing to see here, move along... |
Turborama |
Nov-29-09 10:07 PM |
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Plenty of DUers know the emails prove it's all a hoax, didn't you hear? |
Hissyspit |
Nov-29-09 01:55 AM |
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No No No No No that's just not true. There, all better now. |
pundaint |
Nov-29-09 03:56 AM |
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Jesus hates the polar bears because they are not christians? |
LiberalFighter |
Nov-29-09 07:52 AM |
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But - several DUers have made the point that since "the" model "is" wrong, then so is the data ... |
panzerfaust |
Nov-29-09 05:01 AM |
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The world is too big to fail. However its inhabitants are not. nt |
TheMadMonk |
Nov-29-09 05:28 AM |
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yea, kiss your ass goodbye as soon as that ice quits driving the Thermal-cline, in the last ice age ... |
sam sarrha |
Nov-29-09 11:04 AM |
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We are already contamining space with our debris and nuclear add-ons . . . |
defendandprotect |
Nov-29-09 09:55 PM |
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The equilibrium of the Arctic Ice has been messed up for several years now |
NecklyTyler |
Nov-29-09 05:37 AM |
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There's a 50 year delay in Global Warming's effects so it is much more than |
defendandprotect |
Nov-29-09 09:57 PM |
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K&R |
NecklyTyler |
Nov-29-09 05:38 AM |
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This news is very sad. |
Torn_Scorned_Ignored |
Nov-29-09 07:27 AM |
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Money to be made with continued warming!! |
N_E_1 for Tennis |
Nov-29-09 07:36 AM |
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As long as it's profitable... |
dotymed |
Nov-29-09 08:31 AM |
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Not riches for corporate government - it's riches for barons who put the |
peacetalksforall |
Nov-29-09 09:00 AM |
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Have fun transporting all that oil over the melting permafrost |
kedrys |
Nov-29-09 08:48 AM |
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But wait...That land belongs to Inuits. Guess we'd better kick them out. |
GoddessOfGuinness |
Nov-29-09 04:30 PM |
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Why do polar bears need multi-year ice? People drive on single-year lake ice. |
FarCenter |
Nov-29-09 09:27 AM |
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glad the news about this is getting out but |
wial |
Nov-29-09 09:34 AM |
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Certainly sad and shocking, but what action are you taking? |
tinrobot |
Nov-29-09 09:40 AM |
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much more importantly. |
wial |
Nov-29-09 10:08 AM |
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We need a shift in consciousness as well, and a new paradigm. |
tinrobot |
Nov-29-09 11:01 AM |
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BINGO! +10000 .!!!! |
FirstLight |
Nov-29-09 11:47 AM |
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Problem is, only so many people can go back to the land. |
tinrobot |
Nov-29-09 02:36 PM |
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YA, I know |
FirstLight |
Nov-29-09 02:55 PM |
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The reality is that those practicing such a lifestyle will be successful -- until they're killed. |
Zhade |
Nov-29-09 10:46 PM |
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We are building up this sort of lifestyle. For us, it is not about surviving. |
FedUpWithIt All |
Nov-30-09 12:25 PM |
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Your post could be a separate thread. It's brilliant. |
tblue |
Nov-29-09 12:37 PM |
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Science denial is a mental illness. recd |
Union Yes |
Nov-29-09 09:59 AM |
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amen |
wial |
Nov-29-09 10:55 AM |
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to deny what a global scientific community peer reviewed |
fascisthunter |
Nov-29-09 12:05 PM |
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Remember their names. When society collapses, I WILL NOT HELP THEM. |
Zhade |
Nov-29-09 10:47 PM |
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I Will do Worse... I will be pointing my finger their way |
fascisthunter |
Nov-30-09 03:00 PM |
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Interview With Dr. Barber |
CHIMO |
Nov-29-09 10:01 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Nov-29-09 10:34 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Nov-29-09 10:35 AM |
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I don't believe the scientists didn't know They Knew |
lovuian |
Nov-29-09 11:01 AM |
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I'm sure the polar bears were relieved to hear about the emails, too! |
kestrel91316 |
Nov-29-09 11:06 AM |
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I hope we don't take smartest options off the table before negotiations start |
Overseas |
Nov-29-09 11:07 AM |
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Oh man, absolutely! I hope Obama realizes putting bipartsanship first on this |
tblue |
Nov-29-09 12:46 PM |
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Or that Democratic Congressional leaders step forward more boldly |
Overseas |
Nov-29-09 05:04 PM |
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I'm gonna make a prediction - you heard it here first: |
kestrel91316 |
Nov-29-09 11:09 AM |
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lol...yup |
fascisthunter |
Nov-29-09 11:59 AM |
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And to bolster their argument they will point to fossil plant life from |
RaleighNCDUer |
Nov-29-09 12:32 PM |
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^This^ |
XemaSab |
Nov-29-09 01:02 PM |
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Just a hoax |
Prophet 451 |
Nov-29-09 11:53 AM |
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I believe the fight will become a literal one. |
Zhade |
Nov-29-09 10:55 PM |
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It's all a Tree-hugging Conspiracy, sayeth the lobotomized fascists |
fascisthunter |
Nov-29-09 11:59 AM |
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You Lie! Climate data has been dumped - dumped I tell ya'!!!1111 |
jpak |
Nov-29-09 12:15 PM |
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Nov-29-09 12:26 PM |
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Just follow the money. |
GMA |
Nov-29-09 08:15 PM |
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Nov-29-09 10:57 PM |
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I 2nd your statement |
Duppers |
Nov-30-09 12:03 AM |
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I'm tired of pro-biz, anti-science repubs. And if they finally accept it, they'll say it's |
felinetta |
Nov-29-09 12:33 PM |
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+1 |
Duppers |
Nov-30-09 12:04 AM |
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The problem here is a certain portion of the population will NEVER believe, regardless of evidence. |
gatorboy |
Nov-29-09 12:49 PM |
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You never hear Canada claim it's a hoax.... |
FarLeftFist |
Nov-29-09 01:49 PM |
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BREAKING NEWS |
NOW tense |
Nov-29-09 02:01 PM |
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Kicked and recommended. |
Uncle Joe |
Nov-29-09 02:09 PM |
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Great scot! Something is happening! |
JonQ |
Nov-29-09 02:15 PM |
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No we're not the cause, everyone knows the Industrial Age began over 300 million years ago. |
Uncle Joe |
Nov-29-09 02:53 PM |
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My god! |
JonQ |
Nov-29-09 03:12 PM |
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What about these guys e-mails? Do you believe they were in on some conspiracy? |
Uncle Joe |
Nov-29-09 03:27 PM |
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You mean the emails from 300 million years ago? |
Wednesdays |
Nov-29-09 09:08 PM |
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No only back to 1958, apparently even during the time when Elvis was in the Army, they were aware |
Uncle Joe |
Nov-30-09 02:01 PM |
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You sound like a Tobacco Lobbyist. n/t |
U4ikLefty |
Nov-30-09 09:27 PM |
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The lies and misinformation trips so easily off your keyboard |
Birthmark |
Nov-30-09 06:59 AM |
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Polar bears are doomed, I'm afraid. |
caseymoz |
Nov-29-09 02:17 PM |
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Most likely polar bears will re-converge with the brown bear population. nt |
AlienGirl |
Nov-29-09 02:29 PM |
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Unless we shoot them all first |
NickB79 |
Nov-29-09 02:40 PM |
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What remains of the polar bears will re-converge. . . . |
caseymoz |
Nov-29-09 05:14 PM |
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Actually, this war on nature and animal life has "doomed" us, as well . . . |
defendandprotect |
Nov-29-09 10:00 PM |
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I can't see it as a war. |
caseymoz |
Nov-29-09 10:57 PM |
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This planet would be better off without any humans on it. |
BrklynLiberal |
Nov-29-09 02:21 PM |
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I have heard a lot of people say this... |
Imajika |
Nov-29-09 07:48 PM |
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unfortunately... |
nebenaube |
Nov-29-09 08:13 PM |
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This news just blows my mind!I'm pissed that Congress & the Obama admin have done so fucking little! |
earth mom |
Nov-29-09 03:05 PM |
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What more do you want them to do? |
Imajika |
Nov-29-09 08:01 PM |
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Obama should have started by putting money into green jobs instead of giving more money |
earth mom |
Nov-30-09 01:56 AM |
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I think it would be worth attempting to "transplant" bears to Antarctica. |
roamer65 |
Nov-29-09 03:17 PM |
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Introducing a predator like that is sure to throw the ecosystem in upheaval. The penguins are likely |
GreenPartyVoter |
Nov-29-09 03:57 PM |
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How many penguins do you think a bear could eat in a day? |
XemaSab |
Dec-02-09 11:21 AM |
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I'm starting to think that there is no difference from the brain of a right wing and criminal |
AlphaCentauri |
Nov-29-09 03:51 PM |
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Rec'ing not because this is good - but because it needs to be on the front page for a while. |
geckosfeet |
Nov-29-09 04:09 PM |
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The DU freepers are all over this one |
Kingofalldems |
Nov-29-09 04:19 PM |
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tomorrow 1000 radio stations licensed to operate in the pub interest will read denial propaganda |
certainot |
Nov-29-09 04:22 PM |
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K&R |
me b zola |
Nov-29-09 04:27 PM |
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random idea - lets brainstorm |
kdxcher |
Nov-29-09 06:32 PM |
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I know! Global warming is a GOOD thing! |
Wednesdays |
Nov-29-09 09:14 PM |
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k i c k |
defendandprotect |
Nov-29-09 09:25 PM |
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All they had to do was ask the tour guide at the Athabasca Glaciers |
TrogL |
Nov-29-09 09:41 PM |
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k i c k |
defendandprotect |
Nov-30-09 03:11 AM |
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Question: During previous warm periods was there always artic ice? |
AngryAmish |
Nov-30-09 02:17 PM |
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Consider why Greenland is called Greenland. |
ItNerd4life |
Dec-01-09 12:45 PM |
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Recommend |
TexasObserver |
Dec-01-09 12:37 AM |
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I took environmental science in the eighties |
newspeak |
Dec-02-09 09:43 AM |
#144 |