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Wed Nov-25-09 02:31 PM
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"A thorough examination of evidence from the scene, to include DNA testing, as well as examination of his vehicle and his residence, resulted in the determination that Mr. Sparkman, alone, handled the key pieces of evidence with no indications of any other persons involved," Kentucky State Police said.
Sparkman's wrists were bound with duct tape, and a rope around his neck was tied to a tree, but his body was touching the ground, authorities said. He had "Fed" written on his chest in black ink.
However, Sparkman's wrists were loosely bound in front of his body at shoulder width apart, allowing for "considerable mobility," said Kentucky State Police Capt. Lisa Rudzinski.
He was also in contact with the ground, "almost on his knees," she said.
"To survive, all Mr. Sparkman had to do was stand up."
Lividity on the body -- marks made as blood stops pumping and settles in areas of the body -- showed that Sparkman died in the same position, Rudzinski said.
His glasses were taped to his head, and that tape was underneath tape that held a rag in his mouth, she said.
"Mr. Sparkman had extremely poor eyesight" and so would have needed his glasses secured, Rudzinski said.
But the most compelling evidence came from the fact that Sparkman had obtained $600,000 in accidental-death insurance, which would not have paid in the event of a suicide, as late as May, she said.
In addition, he told a "credible witness" of his plans to commit suicide and stage the scene to make it look like he was slain because he worked for the federal government. The details were consistent with how Sparkman died and was found, Rudzinski said.
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| -Ky. census worker killed himself, police say |
sabra |
Nov-24-09 01:20 PM |
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Wow. They're not even trying to sound plausible. |
FiveGoodMen |
Nov-24-09 01:24 PM |
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What potential outcome would motivate the FBI and others |
Pavulon |
Nov-24-09 01:25 PM |
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The FBI was not involved in the investigation |
Tempest |
Nov-24-09 02:21 PM |
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Kentucky has a reputation to protect? Unless the FBI jumps in and |
24601 |
Nov-24-09 02:56 PM |
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compulsive liars are numerous in Neocon groups |
KakistocracyHater |
Nov-26-09 11:45 PM |
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What evidance do you have to the contrary? |
no limit |
Nov-24-09 01:28 PM |
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The evidence? |
JonQ |
Nov-25-09 02:51 PM |
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more details on investigation: |
BREMPRO |
Nov-25-09 02:31 PM |
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I believe it. Read in USA |
emilyg |
Nov-26-09 09:21 PM |
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I knew that was coming |
get the red out |
Nov-24-09 01:25 PM |
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He died trying to do good for his son |
marshall |
Nov-24-09 01:25 PM |
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yep, in his own view he was doing the best for his son within the system |
AlphaCentauri |
Nov-24-09 03:09 PM |
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uhhhh.... "does not compute." "does not compute." |
Roland99 |
Nov-24-09 01:35 PM |
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+1 |
StopTheNeoCons |
Nov-24-09 02:24 PM |
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All the evidence released pretty much... |
brendan120678 |
Nov-24-09 02:26 PM |
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All of which could be explained by not-so-bright assailants |
Roland99 |
Nov-24-09 03:05 PM |
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You don't think a sedative like Chloroform would show in blood test? |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-24-09 03:42 PM |
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He could have stood up. |
Chemisse |
Nov-24-09 05:22 PM |
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unless he was...oh...unconscious? |
Roland99 |
Nov-24-09 05:25 PM |
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If he was, |
Chemisse |
Nov-25-09 04:16 AM |
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Killing yourself is not as easy as you think. |
zeemike |
Nov-24-09 05:27 PM |
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But . . . but this was the proof! |
JonQ |
Nov-25-09 02:52 PM |
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It does in a state with no doctor assisted suicide for terminal paitents |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-24-09 03:39 PM |
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Who conducted the investigation? |
SecularMotion |
Nov-24-09 01:36 PM |
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State Police. |
jobycom |
Nov-24-09 01:55 PM |
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It's in the first paragraph. |
Ishka Kibble |
Nov-24-09 02:09 PM |
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That information was not in the article at the MSNBC link |
SecularMotion |
Nov-24-09 02:21 PM |
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I think it's going to come out slowly. |
Ishka Kibble |
Nov-24-09 02:31 PM |
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I'm sure Law&Order would turn this storyline down. Too contrived and |
monmouth |
Nov-24-09 01:42 PM |
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It's not unusual. |
Ishka Kibble |
Nov-24-09 02:05 PM |
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David Carradine's death was apparently due to auto-erotic asphyxiation. |
drm604 |
Nov-24-09 02:24 PM |
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No? |
Ishka Kibble |
Nov-24-09 02:29 PM |
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How does everything fit? |
drm604 |
Nov-24-09 02:37 PM |
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I'm afraid I don't understand what you said. |
Ishka Kibble |
Nov-24-09 03:04 PM |
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No. You are failing to understand something key about auto-erotic asphyxiation. |
Hyper_Eye |
Nov-24-09 03:29 PM |
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I said it carelessly, and you misunderstood. |
Ishka Kibble |
Nov-24-09 03:57 PM |
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The Young Turks presented a bit of the information |
Hyper_Eye |
Nov-24-09 04:44 PM |
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A Larry King show is beyond my tolerance. |
Ishka Kibble |
Nov-24-09 04:49 PM |
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The link I provided is a TYT link. It is not the Larry King interview. |
Hyper_Eye |
Nov-24-09 05:24 PM |
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I smell bullcrap. |
Twinguard |
Nov-24-09 01:43 PM |
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+1 |
StopTheNeoCons |
Nov-24-09 02:25 PM |
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The reason it was called a suicide is to |
Tsar_Bomba |
Nov-24-09 01:49 PM |
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So President Obama's FBI is lying to protect the right? One, |
24601 |
Nov-24-09 03:01 PM |
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Obama's been bending over backwards to make the right happy |
Tempest |
Nov-24-09 03:03 PM |
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Large orgs like the FBI aren't monolithic. If they tried to keep a |
24601 |
Nov-24-09 03:40 PM |
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Of course, the FBI is no more under Obama's control than is the military |
tom_paine |
Nov-24-09 05:30 PM |
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Nope, it was to protect the insurance comapnies from paying out. |
intheflow |
Nov-24-09 04:17 PM |
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Anonymous sources say. n/t |
Ian David |
Nov-24-09 01:54 PM |
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Bullshit |
era veteran |
Nov-24-09 01:55 PM |
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I Emailed KSP The whole world is watching |
era veteran |
Nov-24-09 01:58 PM |
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+1 |
StopTheNeoCons |
Nov-24-09 02:23 PM |
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Coverup? |
The Northerner |
Nov-24-09 01:55 PM |
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Suicide made sense. |
Ishka Kibble |
Nov-24-09 01:56 PM |
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If it is not a homocide... |
Zodiak |
Nov-24-09 01:58 PM |
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I don't know how anyone can conclude otherwise, now that the evidence is out. |
jobycom |
Nov-24-09 02:01 PM |
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Partisan anger? |
The Northerner |
Nov-24-09 02:09 PM |
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I think it's more of a distrust of government and a reaction to the hatred of people like Beck. |
jobycom |
Nov-24-09 02:27 PM |
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The life insurance clinches it for me |
slackmaster |
Nov-26-09 09:45 AM |
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Sad all the way around. |
Brickbat |
Nov-24-09 02:07 PM |
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FTW! |
lies and propaganda |
Nov-24-09 02:09 PM |
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+1 |
StopTheNeoCons |
Nov-24-09 02:23 PM |
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Suicide |
Butch350 |
Nov-24-09 02:19 PM |
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isn't that hard to do. |
CBGLuthier |
Nov-24-09 02:28 PM |
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It's surprisingly easy. |
Ishka Kibble |
Nov-24-09 02:35 PM |
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I'm having a hard time |
hileeopnyn8d |
Nov-24-09 02:51 PM |
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BULLSHIT! |
Odin2005 |
Nov-24-09 03:33 PM |
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What I find interesting is that people with very low post counts are supporting suicide as a theory |
Nikki Stone1 |
Nov-24-09 04:00 PM |
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I have a low post count. |
Ishka Kibble |
Nov-24-09 04:11 PM |
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This low counter |
bergie321 |
Nov-24-09 04:17 PM |
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Welcome to DU, bergie. |
EFerrari |
Nov-24-09 04:55 PM |
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I think the suicide is likely. |
Chemisse |
Nov-24-09 05:26 PM |
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My 42K posts since 2002 disagree with that. |
jobycom |
Nov-24-09 05:58 PM |
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agreed. it just appears some here just don't want to accept facts that go against |
BREMPRO |
Nov-25-09 04:15 PM |
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post count? |
FreedomRain |
Nov-25-09 12:02 AM |
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I think it's more likely than not that he committed suicide |
cali |
Nov-27-09 10:44 AM |
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The details make it sound like suicide but I'd like to know his motive - |
lynne |
Nov-24-09 04:55 PM |
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Insurance may not pay for a suicide |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-24-09 05:27 PM |
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lots of insurance contracts pay for suicide after the first year or so... |
dysfunctional press |
Nov-24-09 05:31 PM |
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The suicide clause in most life policies is normally limited to 1 or 2 years - |
lynne |
Nov-24-09 08:23 PM |
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Most likely theory right now is that he was faking his "murder." |
Ishka Kibble |
Nov-24-09 07:46 PM |
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It's probably an insurance scam |
slackmaster |
Nov-26-09 09:44 AM |
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HUH????????????? |
BrklynLiberal |
Nov-24-09 10:41 PM |
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So the experts say that it is suicide |
Chemisse |
Nov-25-09 04:21 AM |
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It's a matter of evidence. |
Eric J in MN |
Nov-25-09 02:41 PM |
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kick |
Grateful for Hope |
Nov-25-09 02:27 PM |
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KY. census worker committed suicide, authorities say |
BREMPRO |
Nov-25-09 02:28 PM |
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It's very sad. But someone could have been accused of murder. |
tblue |
Nov-25-09 02:28 PM |
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I'm not convinced it was suicide. |
Eric J in MN |
Nov-25-09 02:28 PM |
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more info on investigation |
BREMPRO |
Nov-25-09 02:28 PM |
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"obtained $600,000 in accidental-death insurance" instead of "bought" |
Eric J in MN |
Nov-25-09 02:35 PM |
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it appears from reports that he obtained it just before his death that he did not have before |
BREMPRO |
Nov-25-09 04:03 PM |
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The point is that if investigators wanted to wrap up the investigation by calling it a suicide, |
Eric J in MN |
Nov-25-09 04:24 PM |
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i understand your point, but all the other forensic DNA evidence and witness accounts |
BREMPRO |
Nov-25-09 04:38 PM |
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I've never heard of a job that provides that much life insurance without requiring a premium payment |
slackmaster |
Nov-26-09 09:54 AM |
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??? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Nov-25-09 02:28 PM |
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I call bullshit |
gopiscrap |
Nov-25-09 02:28 PM |
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authorities |
maglatinavi |
Nov-26-09 02:21 AM |
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Do you think the "authorities" faked him taking out $600K in life insurance? |
slackmaster |
Nov-26-09 09:46 AM |
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I think it's more subtle than that |
JonQ |
Nov-26-09 10:57 AM |
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Wow! His beloved son and friends would appreciate your callous and glib dismissal. |
ShortnFiery |
Nov-27-09 12:01 AM |
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I'm sure they much prefer the actual conspiracy theories |
JonQ |
Nov-27-09 10:40 AM |
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BS |
fascisthunter |
Nov-27-09 12:14 PM |
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