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unaffiliated liberal Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 08:47 PM
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53. I had cancer treatmant last year under government run Medicare
The final bill was WELL over $100,000. I paid a couple of thousand bucks total in co-pays for drugs, to doctors, and the hospital, and the insurance giants didn't have a chance to stick their noses into my treatment options or take a dime in profits and administrative fees. My treatment was between me and my doctor and the government didn't get between us like the Republican drones always whine about.

Insurance companies selling Medicare Advantage cost the health care system almost THREE TIMES the cost of government run Medicare in profits and administrative fees. That is a bad thing, IMO.

President Obama and the Democrats keep repeating that the president promises not to cut "guaranteed" Medicare benefits but I've never heard any of them explain exactly what they mean by "guaranteed" Medicare benefits. And I'm afraid Medicare recipients will not be very happy when we find out.

I'm for health care reform more than most people I know but I want it done right from the start. Not some half-assed plan that allows the greedy bastards that have been pillaging the health care system for fun and profit, denying coverage, getting between patients and their doctors, running defacto death panels, to increase their premiums and profits while finding new ways to deny coverage.

Single payer is the only answer and if the Democrats can't get it done they are going to pay for it at the polls. I guarantee that. We didn't give them a majority and the White House to get lame excuses and the rest of this bullshit.
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  -Report: Bill would reduce senior care unaffiliated liberal  Nov-14-09 09:11 PM   #0 
  - Do you believe the article? eoq  tsuki   Nov-14-09 09:15 PM   #1 
  - yes I do  jemsan   Nov-14-09 09:18 PM   #2 
  - The article states that the study was done by:  unaffiliated liberal   Nov-14-09 09:26 PM   #4 
  - "similar to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office"  mac56   Nov-14-09 09:36 PM   #5 
  - The second quote I posted is from the CBO  unaffiliated liberal   Nov-14-09 09:55 PM   #12 
  - Not the CBO  Sgent   Nov-16-09 11:22 AM   #61 
  - Is that the same Richard S. Foster who failed to release the actual cost of medicare part D?  fasttense   Nov-15-09 06:21 AM   #36 
     - Bingo.  tsuki   Nov-16-09 05:11 AM   #59 
  - You don't take away $500 billion without some serious effects  Alhena   Nov-15-09 03:19 PM   #48 
  - That's the extra "profit" to pay private companies to provide Medicare Advantage.  SharonAnn   Nov-15-09 09:00 PM   #56 
  - No. The article misstates the cuts which were aren't really cuts but  quiller4   Nov-16-09 02:00 AM   #58 
  - I do, as friends of ours have their own medical practice  joeglow3   Nov-16-09 12:40 PM   #63 
  - No, but I remember Obama ads targeting McCain, saying McCain would cut medicare...  Deja Q   Nov-14-09 09:26 PM   #3 
  - wow, those youtube clips are devastating  Psephos   Nov-14-09 11:12 PM   #20 
  - And let's not forget this is just ONE of the unacceptable points in this bill  unaffiliated liberal   Nov-14-09 09:37 PM   #6 
  - Single payer is the best choice for a reason.  TacticalPeek   Nov-14-09 09:40 PM   #7 
  - And given 1900 pages of stuff that John Boner is too lazy to read, a fresh new system is  Deja Q   Nov-14-09 09:43 PM   #8 
  - The story is believable.  SpankMe   Nov-14-09 09:52 PM   #9 
  - Worse is this, particularly what people responding to it say:  Deja Q   Nov-14-09 09:54 PM   #10 
  - Oh, the AARP supported Bush's plan-D garbage. AARP is just another lobby...  Deja Q   Nov-14-09 09:55 PM   #11 
  - AARP licenses its name to insurance companies to sell AARP-branded medical insurance.  Psephos   Nov-14-09 11:26 PM   #21 
  - Yep! They license to United Health Care! Watch their  napi21   Nov-15-09 01:36 AM   #30 
  - It's not a secret - but it is a strong financial reason for them to back the plan.  Psephos   Nov-15-09 01:44 AM   #32 
  - That explains the low membership costs.  Turbineguy   Nov-15-09 11:15 AM   #44 
  - AARP is a very BIG "For Profit " Health Insurance Corporation.  bvar22   Nov-15-09 07:44 PM   #49 
  - As I understand it, most of the savings is coming from cuts  napi21   Nov-14-09 10:00 PM   #13 
  - I hope so.  Deja Q   Nov-14-09 10:06 PM   #14 
  - Yes very easy! I've also heard there is a bill to increase reimbursements to  napi21   Nov-14-09 10:13 PM   #15 
     - Way-cool  Deja Q   Nov-14-09 10:20 PM   #17 
  - Right you are!  CANDO   Nov-14-09 10:20 PM   #18 
  - EXACTLY. The Democratic effort...  YvonneCa   Nov-14-09 11:27 PM   #22 
  - You make it sound like a bad thing.  Psephos   Nov-14-09 11:29 PM   #23 
     - Medicare Advantage Plans are much cheaper to the participant.  napi21   Nov-15-09 12:00 AM   #26 
     - Umm, are trying to say that raising Advantage premiums to my mom is a good thing?  Psephos   Nov-15-09 12:48 AM   #28 
        - I'm willing to pay more to get the rest of you HC! I honestly think $39/mo  napi21   Nov-15-09 01:33 AM   #29 
           - Yes, that's a cool sentiment, but you sidestepped the main question.  Psephos   Nov-15-09 01:43 AM   #31 
              - I believe since the gov't will only be funding this program, it  napi21   Nov-15-09 02:27 AM   #33 
     - Why is your mother not using traditional Medicare?  CANDO   Nov-15-09 08:35 PM   #50 
     - I had cancer treatmant last year under government run Medicare  unaffiliated liberal   Nov-15-09 08:47 PM   #53 
        - I'm with you all the way on single-payer. n/t  Psephos   Nov-15-09 09:48 PM   #57 
  - That is my understanding also. Those "Advantage" plans are............  pattmarty   Nov-15-09 07:48 AM   #39 
  - Not when you look at the CBO report...  slipslidingaway   Nov-15-09 03:00 PM   #47 
  - Wake me up  Mz Pip   Nov-14-09 10:13 PM   #16 
  - The Republicans aren't "thrilled" because the cuts will be coming........  pattmarty   Nov-15-09 09:32 AM   #42 
  - So, Reform Is Too Successful? That's A Good Reason For Opposing Single Payer, Too.  TomCADem   Nov-14-09 10:47 PM   #19 
  - Link to the report:  TacticalPeek   Nov-14-09 11:29 PM   #24 
  - Cuts to Medicare Advantage program. Nice try though. eom  smiley_glad_hands   Nov-14-09 11:33 PM   #25 
  - Medicare was out of balance before all of this  creeksneakers2   Nov-15-09 12:24 AM   #27 
  - My question as well, especially with enrollment going from 46 milion to 79 million...  slipslidingaway   Nov-15-09 02:58 PM   #46 
  - another reason this bill sucks  winyanstaz   Nov-15-09 02:32 AM   #34 
  - This public circus has gone on long enough...  hayu_lol   Nov-15-09 05:03 AM   #35 
     - exactly!!  winyanstaz   Nov-15-09 02:52 PM   #45 
  - This kind of "study" always  FlaGranny   Nov-15-09 07:10 AM   #37 
  - Of course, Congress could pass a law that says providers  Vinca   Nov-15-09 07:16 AM   #38 
  - If BO is making decisions to be re-elected, he can forget it, ain't gonna happen.  FreeStateDemocrat   Nov-15-09 08:08 AM   #40 
  - Another way to say the same thing-revenue will decrease for hospitals  underpants   Nov-15-09 08:12 AM   #41 
  - Exactly how much can be saved from the Medicare Advantage Plans and...  slipslidingaway   Nov-15-09 10:19 AM   #43 
  - So which is it? Either Medicare has a lot of fraud and waste, or it doesn't. The pubes say it does  Honeycombe8   Nov-15-09 08:46 PM   #51 
  - Here's an article from the AP I read this morning on Mediare fraud  unaffiliated liberal   Nov-15-09 08:54 PM   #55 
  - What a surprise! The WaPo runs a critical article! Now THAT'S news! And a newbie...  Honeycombe8   Nov-15-09 08:47 PM   #52 
  - You sound like my Republican acquaintances  unaffiliated liberal   Nov-15-09 08:52 PM   #54 
  - right  FrenchieCat   Nov-16-09 11:18 AM   #60 
  - It would be terrific if we got our military out of Iraq/Afghanistan  Marthe48   Nov-16-09 12:06 PM   #62 
  - Democrats fought for a decade to get Medicare and you believe they now want to destroy it?  Winterblues   Nov-16-09 04:20 PM   #64 
     - The Democrats who fought for a decade to get Medicare in the 1960's are not the Democrats of today  No Elephants   Nov-17-09 10:30 AM   #65 

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