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Diclotican

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Sat Nov-07-09 03:23 PM
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104. bertman

bertman

Many country outside US have strict gun laws, who in practice give just Police and the military the right to have possession of gun in public spaces.. And where even hunting is somewhat regulated.. You have to be member of a gun club, and have a license to hunt. And go true a rather strict protocol to be allowed to have a weapon at all.. And where your gun is to be kept in a regulated gun locker at all time when you doesn't use it for hunting..

In some country, like my own, the police are not set up with gun at all.. Well they Do have gun, but it is strictly regulated, and they have to get permission for every time they have to use it as part of the uniform.. And have to go true a lot of paper work, if they ever have to use it....

And compared to many country's of this world, we do have a LOT of weapon in private ownership, but we doesn't have the same numbers as US have, when it come to death by gun.... 11.000 it was last year, in US..

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UK Tourist Shot Dead in Texas Bar	villager	Nov-07-09 12:19 PM	#0
Yet another senseless death due to out of control gun laws.	AndyA	Nov-07-09 12:21 PM	#1
Guns aren't allowed in bars in Texas	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 12:27 PM	#5
Where did I say guns were allowed in bars in Texas?	AndyA	Nov-07-09 12:35 PM	#7
What do you propose? EXACTLY	Pavulon	Nov-07-09 01:25 PM	#22
I believe people should be checked more thoroughly before allowed to have guns.	AndyA	Nov-07-09 01:58 PM	#32
I'd say only law officials should have guns . . . and our police should be de-militarized . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 02:18 PM	#44
WOW!! I can hardly wait until ONLY the Police and Military have guns. Then our democracy	bertman	Nov-07-09 02:51 PM	#85
bertman	Diclotican	Nov-07-09 03:23 PM	#104
I think all of Europe should be under fascist control by now, then.	caseymoz	Nov-07-09 04:15 PM	#113
Actually, it wasn't long ago that ALL of Europe WAS under fascist control. And guess	bertman	Nov-07-09 04:26 PM	#116
The Soviet Union?	caseymoz	Nov-07-09 06:43 PM	#209
Since you are apparently oblivious to who really controls our nation--hint: it isn't the people	bertman	Nov-07-09 07:00 PM	#222
Not surprising in any part.	caseymoz	Nov-07-09 11:20 PM	#277
Are you a birther or did you forget the sarcasm tage?	Go2Peace	Nov-07-09 07:48 PM	#234
I forgot the sarcasm tage. nt	caseymoz	Nov-07-09 10:38 PM	#271
It was never the case that ALL of Europe was under fascist control.	LeftishBrit	Nov-09-09 03:07 PM	#326
Posterior production of statistics	pipoman	Nov-09-09 12:51 AM	#320
Any chance you might recognize the need to end the MIC . . . including Blackwater and	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:25 PM	#145
If you were addressing this reply to me, defendandprotect, the answer is Yes--a resounding Yes.	bertman	Nov-07-09 11:50 PM	#281
Actually stressing the corporate end of MIC does make things clearer . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-08-09 02:45 PM	#297
Yes, it is up to us (and millions of others working in concert) to change reality, but	bertman	Nov-08-09 08:37 PM	#313
Well, patriarchal violence has only been going on for 50,000+ years or more . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-08-09 08:54 PM	#315
Here's an interesting tidbit of a quote from former House Majority Leader Hale Boggs:	bertman	Nov-08-09 10:54 PM	#318
Interesting . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-09-09 05:55 PM	#328
Our Democratic President candidate raised many objections	Art_from_Ark	Nov-10-09 01:19 AM	#331
And the other inane idea ... that people with guns will win against our military???!!!!!	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:26 PM	#146
Yeah - I always wondered why some people think that could	smirkymonkey	Nov-09-09 04:44 PM	#327
Sounds like you're assuming conventional tactics..	X_Digger	Nov-09-09 08:55 PM	#330
+1000	cosmicone	Nov-07-09 07:13 PM	#228
that's a country i'll never have to worry about living in.	dysfunctional press	Nov-08-09 11:43 PM	#319
Only police and military should have guns	JonQ	Nov-07-09 02:22 PM	#50
You forgot the :sarcasm: thingy. nt	Lost-in-FL	Nov-07-09 02:50 PM	#83
I thought it was blatant enough	JonQ	Nov-07-09 03:00 PM	#93
I'm ready to end the MIC . . . how about you?	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:27 PM	#149
The motorcycle industry council?	JonQ	Nov-07-09 05:51 PM	#175
Yep ... that's what everyone thinks of when they see MIC . .. !!!	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 06:01 PM	#185
I honestly don't know what you're talking about	JonQ	Nov-07-09 06:08 PM	#194
Military-Industrial Complex (in case you weren't kidding about not knowing)	Jackpine Radical	Nov-07-09 07:06 PM	#225
Ah, thanks, I wasn't kidding	JonQ	Nov-07-09 07:43 PM	#231
You think if we were to completely dismantle our military	JonQ	Nov-07-09 07:44 PM	#233
Well, let's see . . . Did you feel safe pre-9/11 . . . like you were sure if the Russians ...	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 08:57 PM	#248
That's your proof that we need to dismantle our entire military	JonQ	Nov-08-09 12:22 PM	#287
9/11 based Imperialism and wars of aggression = one failure?	defendandprotect	Nov-08-09 02:32 PM	#293
So you really think disarming every soldier in the US	JonQ	Nov-09-09 02:52 PM	#325
Let's withdraw our troops from the territories of other nations . . . a good beginning ... !!	defendandprotect	Nov-08-09 02:34 PM	#294
Well, let's see now.	gorfle	Nov-07-09 02:36 PM	#74
Are you aware that you suggestion would ban almost all hunting rifles?	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 04:46 PM	#119
Gun ownership	Scruffy1	Nov-07-09 05:27 PM	#148
Terrific post -- !!!	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:29 PM	#150
Welcome to DU	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 05:32 PM	#155
Only about 20% of gun owners are hunters.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 05:36 PM	#159
Are you an active hunter?	C_Lawyer09	Nov-07-09 06:42 PM	#208
Definition of assault rifle	C_Lawyer09	Nov-07-09 06:44 PM	#211
Really? the taliban seems to be doing pretty well.	Egnever	Nov-07-09 08:52 PM	#246
Scruffy1, the destruction of whole neighborhoods in the inner cities is NOT due to gun	bertman	Nov-07-09 11:42 PM	#279
When you say "high powered weapon that can fire multiple shots through armor",	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 05:15 PM	#137
Please	C_Lawyer09	Nov-07-09 06:37 PM	#205
Check your gun at the door	Prophet 451	Nov-07-09 02:54 PM	#87
De-nut the dumbfucks in Texas.	izquierdista	Nov-07-09 05:04 PM	#125
I'm making juvenile noises and mocking you.	imdjh	Nov-07-09 01:29 PM	#24
Well then you've got all the requirements to own a gun.	AndyA	Nov-07-09 02:04 PM	#35
Fantastic . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 02:20 PM	#47
O yeah?	imdjh	Nov-07-09 05:00 PM	#121
Is that you?	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:31 PM	#153
Your reference to "out of control gun laws" seems to suggest the problem is a deficiency in the law	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 01:34 PM	#25
So, let's just not worry about it then, right?	AndyA	Nov-07-09 01:53 PM	#29
Guns don't kill people, Sick fucks with guns kill people	digidigido	Nov-07-09 02:06 PM	#36
So we just do nothing?	AndyA	Nov-07-09 02:18 PM	#43
Yes. That is precisely what we do.	gorfle	Nov-07-09 02:40 PM	#78
Bullshit.	AndyA	Nov-07-09 02:54 PM	#88
You have already lost that argument. SCOTUS has ruled. Live with it.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 04:55 PM	#120
Remember when we won an end to capital punishment ... that's been reversed ...	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:23 PM	#143
The SCOTUS never did away with capital punishment.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 05:30 PM	#152
It was SUSPENDED ...	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:36 PM	#158
You may be interested to note:	gorfle	Nov-07-09 06:06 PM	#192
That's what many would like to do: LIVE.	AndyA	Nov-07-09 05:34 PM	#156
My being armed does not threaten your life, unless you attack me.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 05:41 PM	#164
See, that's where the problem really begins.	AndyA	Nov-07-09 06:08 PM	#196
You showed a lot of ignorance in that post.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 06:29 PM	#202
You're a fine one to talk about ignorance.	AndyA	Nov-07-09 06:57 PM	#219
Thats a stretch, this is big drama. here is a hint	Pavulon	Nov-07-09 07:04 PM	#224
You twisted what I said. Typical dishonesty of a gun-grabber.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 08:31 PM	#241
These arguments are tired.	gorfle	Nov-07-09 06:04 PM	#189
Is laxity a word	C_Lawyer09	Nov-07-09 06:54 PM	#216
Absolutely naive	C_Lawyer09	Nov-07-09 06:49 PM	#214
"Sick fucks WITH GUNS kill people" . . . hmmm....	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 02:23 PM	#51
What's wrong is a criminal justice system that coddles offenders and lets them out of jail	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 02:27 PM	#62
Yeah, more people in prison! That'll solve the problem	jgraz	Nov-07-09 02:36 PM	#73
I never said it would prevent all violent crime - There is no way to do that	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 02:41 PM	#80
Would it have prevented this one? Probably not.	jgraz	Nov-07-09 03:11 PM	#99
I'm going to make a bold prediction here	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 05:14 PM	#136
And that makes a difference... how?	jgraz	Nov-07-09 09:28 PM	#264
You are making a Strawman argument.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 05:18 PM	#140
And we adopt another tenet of right-wing Republicanism so you can keep your guns	jgraz	Nov-08-09 04:18 PM	#307
That's crap . . . 14 million in jail for smoking pot is "coddling people" . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:19 PM	#142
Many of us gunnies here at DU would prefer that drugs be legalized.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 05:26 PM	#147
Also agree with legalizing drugs . . . but reality says there's been	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:38 PM	#161
I said "coddling criminals" - People who smoke pot aren't criminals	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 05:30 PM	#151
The laws make clear that the corporate criminals are to go free and the petty	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:40 PM	#163
Oh, give me a break with your right-wing talking points!	Flaneur	Nov-08-09 12:34 PM	#290
No, actually fucking guns kill people	cadaverdog	Nov-07-09 05:38 PM	#160
And those actions were proceeded by a crime.	Pavulon	Nov-07-09 06:43 PM	#210
If you have a suggestion for improving the laws, please present it for discussion	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 02:22 PM	#49
The problem is crimes committed WITH guns . . . and too lax gun laws ...	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 02:21 PM	#48
The NRA is primarily funded by its membership of about 4 million.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 05:24 PM	#144
And that $$$ is funding the NRA targeting of Democrats . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:41 PM	#165
Really? In this past election the NRA endorsed several Democrats.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 05:50 PM	#173
Unfortunately, over decades they have also targeted Dems who support gun regulation . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:59 PM	#183
And they have targeted Republican who suport gun regulation.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 06:32 PM	#203
Right . . . NRA targets moderates/liberals who are anti-gun and anti-violence . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 09:01 PM	#249
Well, Duh. Of course they target any politician who is anti-gun. And water is wet.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 09:13 PM	#253
Again . . . NRA TARGETS DEMOCRATS...with membership $$$$$$$$$$$$ --	defendandprotect	Nov-08-09 02:26 PM	#292
The NRA targets any anti-gun politician, Democrat or Republican.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-08-09 02:48 PM	#298
And you approve of NRA using your $$$ to target Democrats??????????????????	defendandprotect	Nov-08-09 02:51 PM	#299
The result of that has been that the Democratic Party, overall, has become more gun friendly.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-08-09 03:25 PM	#302
One more time, just for you..	X_Digger	Nov-08-09 09:22 PM	#316
Realism	C_Lawyer09	Nov-07-09 07:02 PM	#223
But a criminal who can't get a gun is going to find it much harder to kill random strangers than	Bette Noir	Nov-07-09 02:23 PM	#52
That's why criminals should be kept in jail	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 02:27 PM	#60
Indefinately?	joshcryer	Nov-09-09 02:46 AM	#322
So true . . . and why do the gun nuts want guns? To protect themselves from other gun nuts -- !!!	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 02:14 PM	#40
Most gun owners use them only for recreational purposes	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 02:25 PM	#57
Presumably they could be kept on the premises . . . that's not what we're talking about ...	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:46 PM	#168
And to protect ourselves from violent felons who use...	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 05:46 PM	#
The "globlin" . . . ???? Mainly, these guns end up killing family members,	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:49 PM	#169
The Kellerman study has long since been debunked.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 05:55 PM	#178
And I hope everything remains safe ....	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:57 PM	#180
Yes, the record is clear.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 06:08 PM	#195
Yeah if it weren't for our crazy gun culture	JonQ	Nov-07-09 06:08 PM	#193
If someone won't follow .	sendero	Nov-08-09 03:34 PM	#304
Someone fogot to tell the gun.	geckosfeet	Nov-07-09 12:44 PM	#12
Or the criminal asshole who had it	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 01:34 PM	#26
Or the criminal GOP/NRA who push guns .... and criminal dealers who sell them . ..	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 02:24 PM	#55
Criminals belong in jail	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 02:29 PM	#65
But don't forget...	Frisbee	Nov-07-09 02:55 PM	#
Usually they commit several crimes before committing a big one	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 02:56 PM	#91
The records suggest, not always . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:54 PM	#177
NRA belongs in jail -- that would reduce crime ...	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:16 PM	#139
All 4,000,000+ members? For what crime? Using their first amendment rights?	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 09:17 PM	#257
Hey...the key word GUN! Memorize it!	Butch350	Nov-07-09 01:59 PM	#33
Why Don't You Send That Fact To The Dead Guy's Family?	Paladin	Nov-07-09 02:55 PM	#90
"Allowed" has nothing to do with it.	RUMMYisFROSTED	Nov-07-09 05:18 PM	#141
gun possession + alcohol = 4 to 20 years for him + other gun charges	BrightKnight	Nov-07-09 11:15 PM	#276
A gun law was broken in order to commit that murder. How many more	Hoopla Phil	Nov-07-09 12:53 PM	#15
I guess if you have so little value for human life, it doesn't matter.	AndyA	Nov-07-09 02:06 PM	#37
How about offering a practical solution instead of a personal attack?	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 02:51 PM	#84
The "practical solution" is for Texas to rid itself of permitting carrying guns in public.	David Zephyr	Nov-07-09 05:35 PM	#157
This incident had NOTHING TO DO with Texans' ability to legally carrying guns in public	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 05:40 PM	#162
It has everything to do with the gun worshipping culture there. At least be honest.	David Zephyr	Nov-07-09 05:46 PM	#167
I live in California. I like guns. My state government hates them.	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 05:50 PM	#172
Nope. If he'd not had the gun, the victim would be alive. Period.	David Zephyr	Nov-07-09 05:53 PM	#176
I'd like to see someone submit a practical, politically feasable way of preventing that kind of	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 05:56 PM	#179
Like is better than love.	David Zephyr	Nov-07-09 05:59 PM	#181
Florida and Texas are not the only states where someone without a criminal record can get a CCW	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 06:03 PM	#186
That's a great map for foreigners to see so they'll know where not to visit.	David Zephyr	Nov-07-09 06:05 PM	#190
It is almost the entire U.S. That is useful for telling you how badly...	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 06:11 PM	#199
I take it you'll direct them to restrict their travels to Illinois and Wisconsin	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 06:37 PM	#204
Really? Are you still predicting the "blood flowing in the streets"?	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 06:06 PM	#191
Don't use quotation marks implying I said that. Very dishonest of you, GreenStormCloud.	David Zephyr	Nov-07-09 06:09 PM	#197
Take heart! Plenty of senseless deaths here in Cali, to let you know your beloved implements	villager	Nov-07-09 08:26 PM	#239
Wonder why the rate is so low in greenwich ct, telluride co, and places	Pavulon	Nov-07-09 09:13 PM	#254
so let me get this straight: Because the rich aren't shooting each other yet, you assume all's ducky	villager	Nov-07-09 09:28 PM	#262
Yet? Some of those towns like greenwich and kennebunk	Pavulon	Nov-07-09 09:38 PM	#266
You subscribe to the NRA's view on gun policies, yes?	villager	Nov-07-09 09:50 PM	#269
One can support reasonable gun regulation, and not be a NRA supporter.	Pavulon	Nov-07-09 10:03 PM	#270
Thanks for the info . . . every gun is a license to kill -- every GOP/NRA vote a license to kill --	defendandprotect	Nov-08-09 02:37 PM	#295
The CHL population of TX and FL are extremely law-abiding and peaceful.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 06:00 PM	#184
That was not an answerer to the question. Perhaps you just misread it. So. . .	Hoopla Phil	Nov-07-09 05:04 PM	#126
Enough gun laws to make guns scarce and hard for criminals to get ahold of.	Bette Noir	Nov-07-09 02:25 PM	#56
So you do not believe that the current NICS check is acquit?	Hoopla Phil	Nov-07-09 05:07 PM	#131
Every gun is a license to KILL someone . . . can police cover all of that?	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 02:26 PM	#59
Thank you for your honesty	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 02:51 PM	#86
No -- I'd end the MIC complex . . . but I do think that there would be certain	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:09 PM	#132
But let's be realistic here...	Frisbee	Nov-07-09 03:00 PM	#94
Not if we melt them down . . . !!!	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:10 PM	#134
It's not going to happen. You people have LOST this fight.	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 05:41 PM	#166
How?	hack89	Nov-07-09 09:23 PM	#258
People voluntarily turn in guns . . . when enlightenment strikes . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-08-09 02:38 PM	#296
A few months ago I went to a gun buy-back.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-08-09 02:57 PM	#301
Do you consider criminals enlightened?	hack89	Nov-08-09 03:27 PM	#303
I think criminals without guns can be enlightened . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-08-09 08:41 PM	#314
OK nt	hack89	Nov-09-09 06:34 AM	#323
Assault rifles are already extremely tightly restricted. They have been since 1934.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 06:47 PM	#213
so banning assault weapons has apparently worked.	provis99	Nov-07-09 09:03 PM	#250
They aren't banned. only wealthy folks buy them. When I can no longer buy drugs..	Pavulon	Nov-07-09 09:16 PM	#256
The law was enacted when few were in circulation.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 09:25 PM	#260
Why exclude police from that ban? If no one has guns then the police don't need them.	Hoopla Phil	Nov-07-09 05:09 PM	#133
Our Constitution says that "police must have guns" . . . ????	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:12 PM	#135
Like the ban on coke. A blowjob used to be illegal. Man that ban worked great	Pavulon	Nov-07-09 06:37 PM	#206
crime went down during Prohibition.	provis99	Nov-08-09 12:27 AM	#283
I don't have any license to kill. No OOs in this house.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 06:37 PM	#207
Maybe make it a crime before that one law was broken?	caseymoz	Nov-07-09 04:18 PM	#114
umm that happened in a gun-free zone...guns are not allowed in bars	winyanstaz	Nov-07-09 02:16 PM	#41
Right ... let's send our kids and Granny off to the mall with GUNS . . . Guns for everyone!!!	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 02:27 PM	#61
No need to post crazy talk....	winyanstaz	Nov-07-09 02:38 PM	#77
Every gun is a license to kill . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 02:40 PM	#79
I did not say everyone should have guns...	winyanstaz	Nov-07-09 04:05 PM	#109
I support your commentary.	Divine Discontent	Nov-07-09 04:11 PM	#112
We're not talking about you, personally -- I was commenting on someone else's views . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:02 PM	#124
Everyone weaponized?? Not even. Your imagination is running wild.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 06:53 PM	#215
What do you mean "an entire military base with everyone weaponized"?	slackmaster	Nov-07-09 07:00 PM	#221
...everyone weaponized...	Crabby Appleton	Nov-08-09 09:56 PM	#317
WTF are you talking about?	rd_kent	Nov-07-09 02:20 PM	#45
Seems pretty clear to the rest of us . . . GOP = NRA = gun violence . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 02:28 PM	#63
No, thats not clear at all, sorry.	rd_kent	Nov-07-09 02:46 PM	#81
So you're $$$ to the NRA has been helping them target Democrats . . .!!! Good work!!!	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:15 PM	#138
We are in agreement	rd_kent	Nov-07-09 08:31 PM	#240
Guns	kurtzapril4	Nov-07-09 08:55 PM	#247
You can make a private purchase anywhere, not just the Flea Market.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 09:28 PM	#263
Bingo	proud2BlibKansan	Nov-07-09 02:29 PM	#64
If gun control laws would solve our problems...	iThought	Nov-07-09 06:58 PM	#220
Pretty soon foreign state departments are going to issue travel warnings about us.	TwilightGardener	Nov-07-09 12:23 PM	#2
I guess they'd better issue one for the UK as well.	krispos42	Nov-07-09 12:32 PM	#6
It looks like the US homicide rate is almost four time higher than the UK.	Flaneur	Nov-07-09 12:47 PM	#13
Looks like there was a significant (US) rate decline during the Clinton administration	Ghost Dog	Nov-07-09 01:55 PM	#31
Violent crime did start going down around then.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 06:57 PM	#218
The UK rate has doubled since the mid-80s. Ours is down over 40%	krispos42	Nov-07-09 10:45 PM	#273
That's a very inaccurate statement	muriel_volestrangler	Nov-08-09 06:33 PM	#311
True	krispos42	Nov-09-09 01:18 AM	#321
You think that chart supports your argument?	tabasco	Nov-07-09 01:05 PM	#18
See #273 n/t	krispos42	Nov-07-09 10:46 PM	#274
Or alternatively, I am sure that someone will suggest, they will all be issued guns on arrival.	grantcart	Nov-08-09 09:59 AM	#286
Some already do	Tempest	Nov-07-09 01:07 PM	#19
I remember back in stats class, when they taught us about trends	JonQ	Nov-07-09 02:23 PM	#53
The UK already does issue such advice.	mwooldri	Nov-07-09 08:31 PM	#242
tragedy	Liberal_in_LA	Nov-07-09 12:26 PM	#3
Amarillo -- that's where they assemble and maintain our nuclear weapons	FarCenter	Nov-07-09 12:27 PM	#4
Not really a tourist destination..	Pavulon	Nov-07-09 01:17 PM	#21
Hmmm. That's a private corporation, is it?	Ghost Dog	Nov-07-09 02:11 PM	#38
Pantex is owned by the US government	hack89	Nov-07-09 09:29 PM	#265
Seems to be a strong connection between military/weapons and general insanity -- !!!	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 02:31 PM	#67
Welcome to America. Home of the brave, land of the free....	Hulk	Nov-07-09 12:40 PM	#8
Many countries in europe have similar laws as ours, as does canada	Pavulon	Nov-07-09 06:46 PM	#212
ah, one of DU's gun lovers un-rec'd one of the recs!	villager	Nov-07-09 12:42 PM	#9
And His Only Begotten Son, NRA	Rozlee	Nov-07-09 12:54 PM	#16
It's always sad when a DUer behaves like a freeper.	cognoscere	Nov-07-09 04:32 PM	#117
No guns are controlled by anyone when gunshows can sell just about anything	Rozlee	Nov-07-09 07:43 PM	#232
An M4 sells for $20,000. If it was illegal	Pavulon	Nov-07-09 08:00 PM	#235
$20,000 !!! And my husband wants to buy one, too!?	Rozlee	Nov-07-09 08:52 PM	#245
To clarify, the M4 issued is not the same as the replicas that are semi-auto	Pavulon	Nov-07-09 09:12 PM	#252
What a load of hysterical crap.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 09:03 PM	#251
Texas' state motto should be "The Wrong Place at The Wrong Time." n/t	Ian David	Nov-07-09 12:42 PM	#10
Hey, that's catchy!	mainer	Nov-07-09 01:01 PM	#17
Really funny . . . !!!	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 02:32 PM	#68
We are internationally known as barbarians.	Mari333	Nov-07-09 12:44 PM	#11
No, not at all. I'm sure most people realise the nutjobs are a (large) minority, only.	Ghost Dog	Nov-07-09 02:04 PM	#34
Than the majority of foreigners are idiots	JonQ	Nov-07-09 02:25 PM	#58
Tell that to the dead guy . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 02:33 PM	#69
I take it then that if any american is every killed in europe	JonQ	Nov-07-09 02:49 PM	#82
If their GUN statistics/victims become as bad as ours, I'd say yes!	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:07 PM	#130
So it only matters if guns are involved, violent crimes involving other weapons don't count?	JonQ	Nov-07-09 05:49 PM	#170
If we are barbarians why was he here in the first place?	proteus_lives	Nov-07-09 03:00 PM	#92
Deleted sub-thread	Name removed	Nov-07-09 12:47 PM	#14
Maybe texas will kill the perp.	elleng	Nov-07-09 01:12 PM	#20
Guns don't kill people; Texas kills people. n/t	Ian David	Nov-07-09 01:26 PM	#23
Hmmm. Texans seem find a bathtub to drown kids in when there's no gun, so maybe you have a point	David Zephyr	Nov-07-09 06:03 PM	#187
Britain needs to put USA on terrorist watch list. This country is full of NRA terrorists.	katandmoon	Nov-07-09 01:39 PM	#27
NRA TERRORISTS? ALL NRA members are TERRORISTS? Fuck you! You do realize that you are calling	rd_kent	Nov-07-09 02:24 PM	#54
No -- it's GOP's/NRA "terrorists" . . . works the same way as their other farces . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 02:35 PM	#71
Don't you ever fact-check before posting? NRA membership is at an all-time high. N/T	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 07:09 PM	#226
don't go postal, dude...it's just a message board.	nashville_brook	Nov-07-09 06:13 PM	#200
Well, at least three. Timothy McVeigh, Buford Furrow, Eric Rudolph...	onehandle	Nov-07-09 04:11 PM	#111
Not to mention drug addicts...	mwooldri	Nov-07-09 08:24 PM	#236
Another triumphant week for gun safety.	crim son	Nov-07-09 01:49 PM	#28
Ya know, not everyone from Texas	Libertas1776	Nov-07-09 01:54 PM	#30
"The whole family are in shock and will be issuing no further statements at this time."	phasma ex machina	Nov-07-09 02:20 PM	#46
Good . . . are they taking back the guns? Wake us up when they do!!!	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 02:36 PM	#72
GOP/NRA's Violent America . . . which serves the right wing . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 02:12 PM	#39
his problem was he didn"t have a gun ready to have a drink	K8-EEE	Nov-07-09 02:17 PM	#42
Guns are swell. nt	onehandle	Nov-07-09 02:29 PM	#66
Unless a foreigner MUST be in that part of the country I don't recommend it.	DuaneBidoux	Nov-07-09 02:35 PM	#70
Deleted message	Name removed	Nov-07-09 02:38 PM	#76
WTF? "Especially at this time of year.." in answer to not going to Texas?	txwhitedove	Nov-07-09 03:05 PM	#96
Evidently, you have no memory of Dallas 11/22/63 . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:04 PM	#127
It may help if you actually read the article before commenting. It was an armed robber	Lone_Star_Dem	Nov-07-09 03:20 PM	#103
It was an armed robber -- "with a gun" . . . that's enough to start waking us all up --	defendandprotect	Nov-07-09 05:06 PM	#128
'He was just in the wrong place, at the wrong time'	KG	Nov-07-09 02:38 PM	#75
Maybe the devoted father	femrap	Nov-07-09 05:32 PM	#154
I agree !	Stella_Artois	Nov-07-09 06:09 PM	#198
I bet you'd speak differently if	femrap	Nov-08-09 08:28 PM	#312
Yes. It was an armed robbery	blogslut	Nov-07-09 06:28 PM	#201
That pretty much sums it up unfortunately.	mwooldri	Nov-07-09 08:40 PM	#244
Jangling Jack...	spoony	Nov-07-09 02:55 PM	#89
without TX, FL and CA	mitchtv	Nov-07-09 03:04 PM	#95
Ohio is big on serial killers this week, so add OH.	txwhitedove	Nov-07-09 03:12 PM	#100
SC, AL, LA, MS, GA, TN, ... nt	mwooldri	Nov-07-09 08:25 PM	#238
damned if you die, damned if you live	enid602	Nov-07-09 03:05 PM	#97
Typical comments.	proteus_lives	Nov-07-09 03:10 PM	#98
Do you just keep pasting in the same comment on all of these threads?	jgraz	Nov-07-09 03:15 PM	#102
It's not the same.	proteus_lives	Nov-07-09 04:01 PM	#108
Such a horrific tragedy.	Lone_Star_Dem	Nov-07-09 03:15 PM	#101
"Don't Come To Texas On Account Of No Song"	mwb970	Nov-07-09 03:29 PM	#105
Senseless acts of violence can happen any where.	onestepforward	Nov-07-09 03:31 PM	#106
Just like Brother Malcolm X said- Yeah, brother, give me a	winston61	Nov-07-09 03:48 PM	#107
Poor guy. He was out of his element, and nobody	MineralMan	Nov-07-09 04:05 PM	#110
"He was just in the wrong place, at the wrong time." - Yeah, America. I can hear our cousins over	Divine Discontent	Nov-07-09 05:00 PM	#122
Few people will listen to you despite your spot-on logic.	proteus_lives	Nov-08-09 12:37 PM	#291
I foresee a recession in the Texas tourism industry.	caseymoz	Nov-07-09 04:22 PM	#115
The shooter was already illegal in bringing the gun into the bar.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 04:37 PM	#118
Pullleaze. It was completely legal for him to walk to the bar with that loaded gun.	David Zephyr	Nov-07-09 05:51 PM	#174
Negative. No open carry in florida	Pavulon	Nov-07-09 07:11 PM	#227
No, carrying guns around in Texas is NOT legal, unless one has a CHL.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 07:17 PM	#229
Your ignorance is amazing.	rd_kent	Nov-07-09 08:32 PM	#243
What a tragedy...	BrklynLiberal	Nov-07-09 05:01 PM	#123
Awful.	smoogatz	Nov-07-09 05:06 PM	#129
Guns dont kill people, People who walk into Taxeas bars WITH a GUN Kill People	benld74	Nov-07-09 05:50 PM	#171
You know, on all the threads about the fort hood killer	JonQ	Nov-07-09 05:59 PM	#182
Wow, the anti-gun nuts just HAD to use this tragedy to spew their crap.	Odin2005	Nov-07-09 06:04 PM	#188
...said the pro-gun nut, using the shooting news to spew the usual venom...	villager	Nov-07-09 08:25 PM	#237
WTF? No one goes to Amarillo as a tourist!?!?! nt	cleverusername	Nov-07-09 06:56 PM	#217
Tourism is big industry in Amarillo. Palo Duro Canyon is very beautiful	BrightKnight	Nov-07-09 11:34 PM	#278
Is This the Way to Amarillo? I've been weeping like a willow!	T_i_B	Nov-09-09 07:22 AM	#324
I guess this British tourist should have brought a gun into the bar	CreekDog	Nov-07-09 07:25 PM	#230
217 posts and only one that touches on a huge, huge part of the problem.	TheMadMonk	Nov-07-09 09:15 PM	#255
Many people with NO experience	Pavulon	Nov-07-09 09:25 PM	#259
Depends very much on the circumstances.	TheMadMonk	Nov-08-09 08:10 AM	#284
Most people are sheep, and will react as you say. But...	GreenStormCloud	Nov-07-09 09:40 PM	#267
Yeah, like those sheep at Ft. Hood	jgraz	Nov-07-09 10:40 PM	#272
Notice that the shooter was stopped by a person with a gun.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-08-09 02:51 PM	#300
Gundamentalism at its finest	jgraz	Nov-08-09 04:09 PM	#306
The problem wasn't cause by too many guns.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-08-09 04:20 PM	#308
Prove It. (n/t)	Paladin	Nov-08-09 04:44 PM	#309
OK. Here you go.	GreenStormCloud	Nov-08-09 06:32 PM	#310
Shudda Stayed Home In Your Gun Ban Heaven, Limey	Blandocyte	Nov-07-09 09:28 PM	#261
FUCK GUNS AND GUN-LOVERS	DemoTex	Nov-07-09 09:43 PM	#268
Actually you should be saying, "FUCK CRIMINALS"	proteus_lives	Nov-08-09 12:34 PM	#289
Gun ban. Total. Gun. Ban. Let's get going.	Blandocyte	Nov-07-09 11:11 PM	#275
You will see jesus return to preach at the garden right before that happens..	Pavulon	Nov-07-09 11:48 PM	#280
Never gonna happen.	proteus_lives	Nov-08-09 12:32 PM	#288
No doubt Blandocyte would make exceptions for government use	slackmaster	Nov-09-09 08:20 PM	#329
Capital Murder is about as illegal as it gets. dead man walking	BrightKnight	Nov-08-09 12:11 AM	#282
And a song took him to Amarillo.	TexasObserver	Nov-08-09 08:24 AM	#285
Yeah, talk about "destiny"!	robo50	Nov-08-09 03:40 PM	#305

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