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Sun Nov-01-09 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #71 |
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Edited on Sat Oct-31-09 10:05 AM by Raine1967
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| -A changed race (Scozzafava Tells Supporters To Vote For Dem) Owens is best-equipped to represent NNY |
kpete |
Nov-01-09 09:13 AM |
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What a hell of a mess. |
saltpoint |
Nov-01-09 09:21 AM |
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Wow. The comments say it all. When you LaFarge the Eisenhower/Rockefeller |
tsuki |
Nov-01-09 09:27 AM |
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Interesting allusion to Marie Lafarge, executed in France in 1852. |
philly_bob |
Nov-01-09 10:08 PM |
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Article confusion. Meant DeFarge. Sorry for the confusion. nt |
tsuki |
Nov-02-09 09:19 AM |
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Ah, the Dickens character from Tale of Two Cities. Thanks. |
philly_bob |
Nov-03-09 08:51 AM |
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Rockefellers and Eisenhowers are now Democrats, along with some Goldwaters. |
No Elephants |
Nov-02-09 02:26 AM |
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Awesome! n/t |
adamuu |
Nov-01-09 09:30 AM |
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I'm afraid that changes the race into a 2-person race, making it harder for Owens. |
Honeycombe8 |
Nov-01-09 09:41 AM |
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They are still North East Republicans. Hopefully the don't want Palin wingnuts representing them |
MidwestTransplant |
Nov-01-09 09:52 AM |
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IMO this is the key... |
WePurrsevere |
Nov-01-09 10:35 AM |
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we have a supermajority in NYS |
mdmc |
Nov-01-09 05:09 PM |
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Yeah supposedly NY will lose a congressional seat after teh 2010 census. |
MidwestTransplant |
Nov-02-09 01:14 AM |
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Anecdotal evidence follows: |
OswegoAtheist |
Nov-01-09 09:59 AM |
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I hope you're right. nt |
Honeycombe8 |
Nov-01-09 07:44 PM |
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Actually the local press speculates that most of the conservatives |
quiller4 |
Nov-01-09 11:08 AM |
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A win is a win, even a narrow one. I hope that's what happens. nt |
Honeycombe8 |
Nov-01-09 07:44 PM |
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Fox Opinion was telling it different yesterday |
sadbear |
Nov-01-09 09:52 AM |
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Yeah. I heard she threw her support to Hoffman yesterday, too... |
Demoiselle |
Nov-01-09 10:52 AM |
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FUX - THEY LIE! |
katanalori |
Nov-01-09 12:36 PM |
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Yeah... |
Tx4obama |
Nov-01-09 03:28 PM |
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The Spiritual character of NY 23 - Native perspective |
SpiralHawk |
Nov-01-09 09:53 AM |
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We live very close to Akwesasne and |
WePurrsevere |
Nov-01-09 10:51 AM |
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Republicans held that district for over 100+ years. |
FarLeftFist |
Nov-01-09 10:54 AM |
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but the district went for Obama in 2008 and Bush just barely held it in 2004. |
quiller4 |
Nov-01-09 11:10 AM |
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instant run-off voting would make this a non-issue |
harmonicon |
Nov-01-09 11:22 AM |
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No shit. Gotta go rag on a friend on Facebook now who told me Hoffman was a shoe in now heh. |
shadowknows69 |
Nov-01-09 11:24 AM |
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... “Since announcing the suspension of my campaign, I have thought long and hard about what i... |
struggle4progress |
Nov-02-09 01:01 AM |
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This is huge! It shows that Ms Scozzafava actually has some |
annabanana |
Nov-01-09 11:36 AM |
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Owens is a shitty Democrat--if I were in the 23rd I might have voted |
Arkana |
Nov-01-09 11:57 AM |
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Absolutely correct - this Dem is a waste... |
TeaBagsAreForCups |
Nov-01-09 12:49 PM |
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I am in the 23rd |
OswegoAtheist |
Nov-01-09 01:15 PM |
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I don't live in NY23, but doesn't a vote for DeDe instead of Owens at this point only help Hoffman? |
harry_pothead |
Nov-01-09 05:30 PM |
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yes. |
OswegoAtheist |
Nov-02-09 08:45 AM |
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Tell him. And, if he wins, primary him next time. |
No Elephants |
Nov-02-09 03:03 AM |
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I don't live in the 23rd--I live in Massachusetts and my rep is awesome. |
Arkana |
Nov-02-09 09:36 AM |
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United Auto Workers endorsement..goes to Owen.. |
Cha |
Nov-01-09 12:13 PM |
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A Republican told Republicans to VOTE DEM? |
aquart |
Nov-01-09 12:19 PM |
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"lightning speed" is the new talking point? |
aquart |
Nov-01-09 12:23 PM |
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BREAKING: Scozzafava suspends NY 23 campaign |
NYC_SKP |
Nov-01-09 12:57 PM |
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Hmmmmm - Republicon Family Values behind this? |
SpiralHawk |
Nov-01-09 12:57 PM |
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Scozzafava drops out... |
DumbBassRepublicans |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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So the race is now between a Dem and a teabagger? |
Raine1967 |
Nov-01-09 12:57 PM |
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Further and further to the right do they slip. |
Roland99 |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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IMO, the Democrats should take the blame for their own moves. If Democrats insist |
No Elephants |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Trouble is, the Democratic Party has been split for a long time |
Roland99 |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Yep, which is why I never blame Republicrats for the shortcomings of Demlicans, or vice versa. |
No Elephants |
Nov-02-09 03:11 AM |
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Interesting indeed |
proud2BlibKansan |
Nov-01-09 12:57 PM |
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I can't remember who said it last night, but... |
CitizenLeft |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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But they aren't unelectable if this teabagger wins |
proud2BlibKansan |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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no, he meant statewide and nationally... |
CitizenLeft |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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I certainly hope he is right |
proud2BlibKansan |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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But isn't Kansas an example ...? |
earthside |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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We have had several Democrats as governor |
proud2BlibKansan |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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It was Chris Kofinas (sp?) |
Frisbee |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Then he can have Hoffman in his district. I don't want him. |
shadowknows69 |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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That was Chris Kofinis talking to O'Donnell on Olbermann. |
pink-o |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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It's a win win for us, really. |
TheWraith |
Nov-01-09 01:13 PM |
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From what I'm hearing the district has been Republican for like.............. |
pattmarty |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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that's what I meant too (above). |
CitizenLeft |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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I live in a district that has been red for a hundred years too but we have a Dem rep |
proud2BlibKansan |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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yes, NY 23 is republican but |
cali |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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As I said in another thread. I can't be as confident about the not "wacko" part. |
shadowknows69 |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Obama carried the district (although narrowly) |
Jim Lane |
Nov-01-09 12:59 PM |
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Sux to be a Republican. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Nov-01-09 12:57 PM |
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Sux to try to make it as a Repug when you're a woman |
MonteLukast |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Yeah. I really wonder the level of dissociation, if that's the word, of folks like Snowe and her. |
Captain Hilts |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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OMG, dems will be running against complete lunatics in 2012. |
graywarrior |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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One thing I learned from Dummya. Never misunderestimate the enemy, no |
No Elephants |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Dubya's Legacy... |
DumbBassRepublicans |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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naybe she hopes her moderate supporters will go for the democrat |
pennylane100 |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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She probably got death threats from the Palin mob. |
Joanne98 |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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The comments are PRICELESS, these Puke fucks think this is the beginning of a comeback |
DainBramaged |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Half of them are confident, the other half scared to death, and both halves are fighting over it. |
NYC_SKP |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Their stupidity is priceless............ |
DainBramaged |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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The conservative candidate knows nothing about local issues. He doesn't |
alfredo |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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S/he doesn't have to know about local issues. God and "no new taxes" are |
No Elephants |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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god, guns and faggots |
ldf |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Yeah, they're just a bunch of bitter clingers. |
smalll |
Nov-01-09 10:33 PM |
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Trillions spent on wars are a lot ess affordable than trillions spent on |
No Elephants |
Nov-02-09 03:43 AM |
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Ditto vijayjays. |
No Elephants |
Nov-02-09 03:22 AM |
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Dumb question I know but how does a person who doesn't live in the district run for office |
proud2BlibKansan |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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He rents a travel trailer in Gouverneur... |
Dennis Donovan |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Well I know you don't have to live in district in CA. |
proud2BlibKansan |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Congressional districts aren't written into the Constitution |
KamaAina |
Nov-01-09 12:59 PM |
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He would have until 12-31-09 to move into the district |
mdmc |
Nov-01-09 06:03 PM |
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In all fairness, he lives on the edge of the district in Lake Placid... |
Dennis Donovan |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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I hope the Dem is exploiting his opponent's ignorance. |
alfredo |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Not sure how to forecast this... |
brooklynite |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Although I bet some of the institutional rebubs will defect as well... |
Salviati |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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It's a purge |
rogerashton |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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They've done this before. Nixon got rid of the Rockefeller repubs. |
aquart |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Is this a traditional time for dropping out of races? I read only yesterday or so about Newsom. |
No Elephants |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Hey, Teabaggers. No reason to stay in the GOP. The Conservative party is the future! |
onehandle |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Michael Steele is smiling as he presides over the death of his own party... |
stevedeshazer |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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OMG!!!! |
BumRushDaShow |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Aww! Michael Steele is so cute! And so tech savvy! |
redwitch |
Nov-01-09 12:59 PM |
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I wish |
nod factor |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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We tried it -- we had a successful primary challenge against Lieberman, for one |
adamuu |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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FFFFFUUUUU- |
OswegoAtheist |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Chairman of the Independence Party just endorsed Owens., |
Joanne98 |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Scozzafava quits NY-23 |
alofarabia |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Link here: |
Raine1967 |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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sorry double post... |
Raine1967 |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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If she doesn't endorse Hoffman that could help |
alofarabia |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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I have NEVER heard of anyone's endorsement mattering one bit. |
ChairmanAgnostic |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Some, but will it be enough? |
FVZA_Colonel |
Nov-01-09 12:59 PM |
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The sleeping giant has been awoken-have fun controlling those tea baggers Republicans |
underpants |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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As much fun as we have controlling the Blue Dogs, perhaps? |
No Elephants |
Nov-02-09 03:33 AM |
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Scozzafava throws in the towel? |
OswegoAtheist |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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I'm crossing my fingers for my former neighbors in Oswego... |
Dennis Donovan |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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This was posted here earlier today and is on the Front Page: |
elocs |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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so much for running in the middle---or even close to it---wackos clearly in control now |
wordpix |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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The suprising part |
SnakeEyes |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Not all that surprising if a Con is running against a Purple Snake in a traditionally Pub district. |
No Elephants |
Nov-02-09 03:40 AM |
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Most repigs have total reactionary loyalty to their party |
pink-o |
Nov-01-09 12:58 PM |
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Owens compares Hoffman to former President Bush |
Joanne98 |
Nov-01-09 12:59 PM |
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Goddamnit |
Ed76638 |
Nov-01-09 12:59 PM |
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So, basically, she just got "Lamonted" |
KamaAina |
Nov-01-09 12:59 PM |
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not at all the same---Ned Lamont was the elected Dem candidate |
wordpix |
Nov-01-09 12:59 PM |
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Well, there |
Justess |
Nov-01-09 12:59 PM |
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I was thinking of the prominent national Dems who backed Traitor Joe |
KamaAina |
Nov-01-09 12:59 PM |
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Very useful new verb. Thanks. Just to add: The Republican Party's supporting a |
No Elephants |
Nov-02-09 03:55 AM |
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Amazing - The Republicans Are Getting Even More Extreme |
TomCADem |
Nov-01-09 12:59 PM |
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The lunatics are throwing out the last few reasonable people. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-01-09 12:59 PM |
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Good, I hope they keep their idealogical purge going... |
Endangered Specie |
Nov-01-09 12:59 PM |
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Last Minute Polls had the Teabagger ahead, I wouldn't be too hopeful |
JCMach1 |
Nov-01-09 12:59 PM |
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We don't lose on this one... |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Nov-01-09 12:59 PM |
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That is true... let them elect more crazies... |
JCMach1 |
Nov-01-09 12:59 PM |
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Not surprising that Pubs would rather vote for a Con than a Blue Dog. |
No Elephants |
Nov-02-09 04:15 AM |
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Although not necessarily, this may boost the Democrats' chances |
majamay |
Nov-01-09 12:59 PM |
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I heard that Owens is more conservative than Scozzafava - if so, let the nutcase win |
bread_and_roses |
Nov-01-09 12:59 PM |
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Owens isn't a DINO. He strongly supports a public option for |
quiller4 |
Nov-01-09 02:58 PM |
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well, i very much hope you are right |
bread_and_roses |
Nov-01-09 05:53 PM |
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SCOZZAFAVA THROWS SUPPORT TO OWENS |
robo50 |
Nov-01-09 02:56 PM |
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"She's a hero to us Dems!" -not at all. More like a fairly reasonable person |
depakid |
Nov-01-09 02:56 PM |
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well, maybe not a hero, but certainly no Sarah Palin... |
robo50 |
Nov-01-09 03:14 PM |
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I believe Progressive and radical Democrats had something to do with obama's election, too. |
No Elephants |
Nov-02-09 04:27 AM |
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Good for Scozzafava.. but she's just covering her ass |
Tx4obama |
Nov-01-09 03:38 PM |
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It is doubtful that there will still . be a 23rd district. It is one likely |
quiller4 |
Nov-01-09 05:54 PM |
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Here's some more good news for Owens... |
Tx4obama |
Nov-01-09 03:50 PM |
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The old-school republican establishment |
necso |
Nov-01-09 04:01 PM |
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It would be great if all moderates voted Dem in every race, it would send an amazing message. |
bamacrat |
Nov-02-09 12:17 AM |
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Bingo. LBJ trounced Goldwater. And, ironically, with an anti-war ad, too. |
No Elephants |
Nov-02-09 04:37 AM |
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GOP dropout in key 23rd District throws support to Democrat - NY-23 |
TacticalPeek |
Nov-02-09 12:25 AM |
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Can we trade her for Lieberman? |
tblue |
Nov-02-09 12:25 AM |
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The Party of No |
mstinamotorcity |
Nov-03-09 10:10 AM |
#146 |