| 206. Depends on the issue... |
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Some things yes, others not so much. Obama hasnt lived up to his hype. Cynical as I am, I never expected him or any politician to do so.
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| -President Signs Law Giving Defense Dept Authority To Exempt Photos From Freedom Of Information Act |
kpete |
Oct-29-09 01:16 PM |
#0 |
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Why, the "change" is coming fast and furiously, this morning! |
villager |
Oct-29-09 01:17 PM |
#1 |
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Yes, it's accelerating! |
FiveGoodMen |
Oct-29-09 01:21 PM |
#3 |
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Hey now. Gay people are now protected under hate crimes, even though they still can't serve openly |
T Wolf |
Oct-29-09 01:24 PM |
#5 |
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He reversed the last-minute oil leases Bush sold just before he left office. |
Bette Noir |
Oct-29-09 01:32 PM |
#8 |
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They only reversed some of the oil leases. In Alaska they still have the go ahead. |
Arctic Dave |
Oct-29-09 01:52 PM |
#12 |
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Hey, don't forget the preemptive Nobel peace price! |
liberation |
Oct-29-09 05:20 PM |
#66 |
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"PRICE"...IS RIGHT!! |
taggline |
Oct-30-09 05:49 AM |
#154 |
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Authorized stem cell research (not terribly controversial anymore), admits to other |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 06:13 AM |
#157 |
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I can hardly keep up with all this change. |
Mari333 |
Oct-29-09 01:25 PM |
#6 |
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I was going to change the country...but, I changed my mind, instead |
taggline |
Oct-30-09 05:48 AM |
#153 |
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Who knew "change" meant getting Olympia Snowe's vote at all costs, though? |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 06:10 AM |
#156 |
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Not me. |
chadmak09 |
Oct-29-09 04:20 PM |
#49 |
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He always was just another politician. |
tXr |
Oct-29-09 05:09 PM |
#62 |
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He was merely the lesser of two evils. |
empire we are |
Oct-29-09 05:41 PM |
#74 |
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Obama's first job out of college was with a CIA front company |
EVDebs |
Oct-29-09 07:11 PM |
#87 |
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Pretty soon we're going to have to change the name of the country to CIA, INC. |
defendandprotect |
Oct-29-09 08:46 PM |
#117 |
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"...the left wing of the ruling class" . .. wanted Eugene McCarthy as Pres...!!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-29-09 08:52 PM |
#119 |
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1/ That wiki article is not exactly solid. 2/ Even if it is true, do you think a college kid knew |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 06:29 AM |
#158 |
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You mean people actually bought the "hope and change" schtick? |
twitomy |
Oct-29-09 09:13 PM |
#123 |
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Some did ---- I never did |
saigon68 |
Oct-30-09 06:59 AM |
#163 |
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And you want the government to be further left? |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 07:09 AM |
#167 |
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Depends on the issue... |
twitomy |
Oct-30-09 05:26 PM |
#206 |
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On which things would you like government to be further left? |
No Elephants |
Oct-31-09 09:26 AM |
#213 |
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Wow, I have a following! |
twitomy |
Oct-31-09 01:19 PM |
#225 |
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Its a good bill. We all saw how enraged |
lefty369 |
Oct-29-09 07:47 PM |
#92 |
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Nonsense. The Arab world has already seen the photos.They don't want U to see them |
bjobotts |
Oct-29-09 07:57 PM |
#95 |
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Covering Bush's ass is a full time job for Obama.Our shame continues |
bjobotts |
Oct-29-09 07:58 PM |
#96 |
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The photos show torture was systemic not isolated and we tortured innocents to death. |
bjobotts |
Oct-29-09 08:00 PM |
#97 |
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Now stick your head back in the sand and forget Bush's crimes.Presidents are above the law |
bjobotts |
Oct-29-09 08:01 PM |
#98 |
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Indefinite preventive detention???That's what our founding fathers stood for huh |
bjobotts |
Oct-29-09 08:03 PM |
#99 |
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Put you hands in your ears but this is the Bush Obama now. and of course... |
bjobotts |
Oct-29-09 08:04 PM |
#100 |
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...it was Joe Liebermann who snuck that provision into the bill for Obama |
bjobotts |
Oct-29-09 08:04 PM |
#101 |
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Just like Obama's Joe is making sure the public option is killed like "trigger"Obama wanted |
bjobotts |
Oct-29-09 08:06 PM |
#102 |
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Rates not tied to Medicare means premiums for PO will be higher than private plans |
bjobotts |
Oct-29-09 08:08 PM |
#106 |
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see post #199 |
snooper2 |
Oct-30-09 12:15 PM |
#200 |
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Americans ought not know what their government does. Knowledge may affect the way they vote! |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 06:39 AM |
#160 |
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do you only have one thought at a time |
snooper2 |
Oct-30-09 12:12 PM |
#196 |
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and another |
snooper2 |
Oct-30-09 12:12 PM |
#197 |
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and another |
snooper2 |
Oct-30-09 12:12 PM |
#198 |
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meant to reply to 106 instead of 160...but the sub-thread |
snooper2 |
Oct-30-09 12:14 PM |
#199 |
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It upsets the Sheep to see the dark side of the Revered Military |
saigon68 |
Oct-30-09 07:07 AM |
#166 |
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This is wrong on so many levels it is sickening... |
scentopine |
Oct-29-09 08:33 PM |
#111 |
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Excellent post. |
CrispyQ |
Oct-30-09 10:01 AM |
#186 |
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Yes - there are two stimulus programs in USA |
scentopine |
Oct-31-09 10:56 AM |
#223 |
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No ... what prevents torture is holding those responsible for it accountable ... |
defendandprotect |
Oct-29-09 08:47 PM |
#118 |
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Delusional |
pmorlan1 |
Oct-29-09 08:53 PM |
#120 |
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It's a great bill !! |
astroBspacedog |
Oct-29-09 10:38 PM |
#135 |
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Yep, it's the Rumsfeld Doctrine |
tavalon |
Oct-30-09 11:18 AM |
#190 |
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LOL! |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 06:32 AM |
#159 |
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He had no choice |
Ter |
Nov-01-09 01:49 AM |
#228 |
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f'kn bullshit |
barbtries |
Oct-29-09 01:20 PM |
#2 |
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More crap. |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Oct-29-09 01:22 PM |
#4 |
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How very, very hopeful and changealicious! n/t |
QC |
Oct-29-09 01:28 PM |
#7 |
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I think it's...changiness. |
chimpymustgo |
Oct-29-09 03:38 PM |
#32 |
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But you have to admit--it was a fantastic ad slogan. |
QC |
Oct-29-09 04:01 PM |
#41 |
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Was the "testes" a Freudian Slip? LOL ;-) |
liberation |
Oct-29-09 05:22 PM |
#67 |
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LOL! Didn't even notice that. |
QC |
Oct-29-09 05:26 PM |
#71 |
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a lack of same in our leaders, bring the 'T' word out of your sub-conscious? :) (n/t) |
marasinghe |
Oct-29-09 08:33 PM |
#112 |
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More like..."Where's the beef?" (nt) |
CoffeeCat |
Oct-29-09 09:36 PM |
#128 |
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I firmly oppose testes that are less filling. |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 07:36 AM |
#172 |
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Is that like truthiness? |
tavalon |
Oct-30-09 11:19 AM |
#191 |
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Disappointing. |
Bette Noir |
Oct-29-09 01:32 PM |
#9 |
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America the Free!!!!! |
fascisthunter |
Oct-29-09 01:33 PM |
#10 |
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Transparency? |
paparush |
Oct-29-09 01:41 PM |
#11 |
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Freedom Of Some Information Act |
Oregone |
Oct-29-09 02:00 PM |
#13 |
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But hell, photos aren't information, right? |
AlbertCat |
Oct-29-09 03:49 PM |
#37 |
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The photos from viet Nam ended that war. |
bjobotts |
Oct-29-09 08:09 PM |
#108 |
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well, you know - we have a more responsible main-stream media now, than back in the 60's. |
marasinghe |
Oct-29-09 08:57 PM |
#122 |
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If you liked SURGE 1 |
saigon68 |
Oct-30-09 07:00 AM |
#164 |
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Uh, no it didn't. |
Le Taz Hot |
Oct-30-09 04:02 AM |
#150 |
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So, the light at the end of the tunnel was a flash bulb? |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 06:44 AM |
#161 |
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Those photos jeapardize their personal, er I mean National security. |
DUlover2909 |
Oct-29-09 04:47 PM |
#55 |
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Almost totally Freedom of Some Information Act -- |
defendandprotect |
Oct-29-09 09:50 PM |
#130 |
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The best way we can fight for them, IMO, is to donate to the ACLU, which IS fighting for them |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 07:13 AM |
#168 |
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I'm a contributing member .... |
defendandprotect |
Oct-30-09 10:43 AM |
#189 |
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Based on your posts, I assumed that. I hope others read my post, though. |
No Elephants |
Oct-31-09 09:49 AM |
#218 |
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Today's Daily Disappointment |
MsLeopard |
Oct-29-09 02:01 PM |
#14 |
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I don't think he had a choice |
Qutzupalotl |
Oct-29-09 02:11 PM |
#15 |
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Neither did Bushler... |
WriteDown |
Oct-29-09 02:32 PM |
#17 |
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CIA contractors started the torture under Bush. |
Qutzupalotl |
Oct-29-09 03:25 PM |
#27 |
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Nope, the CIA made Bush start that program. |
WriteDown |
Oct-29-09 03:30 PM |
#28 |
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Isn't sarcasm supposed to be funny? |
Qutzupalotl |
Oct-29-09 03:45 PM |
#34 |
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About as funny as Obama being controlled by the CIA |
WriteDown |
Oct-29-09 03:53 PM |
#39 |
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I guess the DU archives of 2001-2008 are full of posts by you condemning torture then? |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 09:29 AM |
#182 |
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I forgive you for that.... |
WriteDown |
Oct-30-09 10:04 AM |
#187 |
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To the contrary, you know otherwise. And, I'll take that as a no, the archives of DU are not |
No Elephants |
Oct-31-09 09:34 AM |
#216 |
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If you can signal me where the CIA is holding you.. |
WriteDown |
Oct-31-09 09:56 AM |
#219 |
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And Obama has no plans to prosecute Bush, so no threats are necessary. |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 06:51 AM |
#162 |
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There could have been threats before Holder's decision not to prosecute. |
Qutzupalotl |
Oct-30-09 12:40 PM |
#201 |
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I don't think this has a thing to do with the CIA. |
No Elephants |
Oct-31-09 09:38 AM |
#217 |
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Yes he had a choice. The CIA isn't Obama's boss. Remember JFK fired CIA Director Allen Dulles |
Xicano |
Oct-29-09 04:40 PM |
#53 |
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And look where that got him. n/t |
Qutzupalotl |
Oct-29-09 05:03 PM |
#60 |
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I am pretty sure that was the point of the OP... |
liberation |
Oct-29-09 05:23 PM |
#68 |
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Yes . . . we had a dead president and Dulles got promoted to Warren Commission--!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-29-09 09:51 PM |
#131 |
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Mission accomplished |
Scruffy1 |
Oct-29-09 02:29 PM |
#16 |
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What a chickenshit move by Obama. |
Flaneur |
Oct-29-09 02:35 PM |
#18 |
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We are seeing in some respects, from a corporate & imperialistic standpoint there is no difference. |
GreenTea |
Oct-29-09 02:55 PM |
#20 |
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Just another of "change we can believe in". |
pattmarty |
Oct-29-09 02:54 PM |
#19 |
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Upsetting |
Dogtown |
Oct-29-09 02:58 PM |
#21 |
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Obama and Dems |
placton |
Oct-29-09 03:05 PM |
#22 |
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used to get calls from DSCC et al |
guyton |
Oct-29-09 03:05 PM |
#23 |
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Agreed. No more Dem party money EVER AGAIN. |
freddie mertz |
Oct-29-09 04:26 PM |
#50 |
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Fist bump. I am now donating to support the ACLU, Amnesty International and |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 07:05 AM |
#165 |
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lol |
d_b |
Oct-29-09 03:13 PM |
#24 |
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What a choice that was. |
tXr |
Oct-29-09 05:17 PM |
#65 |
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Obama/Biden promised change of substance |
bikingaz |
Oct-29-09 09:28 PM |
#126 |
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Obama won't get any money from me |
lebkuchen |
Oct-29-09 03:15 PM |
#25 |
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Screwed again. Screw you, Obama! |
katandmoon |
Oct-29-09 03:20 PM |
#26 |
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I'm running out of hope and good will, Mr. President. This isn't the change you promised. |
Piewhacket |
Oct-29-09 03:30 PM |
#29 |
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k/r |
Solly Mack |
Oct-29-09 03:34 PM |
#30 |
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Ya know... |
Cherchez la Femme |
Oct-29-09 03:36 PM |
#31 |
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I think mayge he was fibbing about that whole transparency thing. |
Tim01 |
Oct-29-09 03:41 PM |
#33 |
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I'm not happy about the non release of the photos, but |
Jefferson23 |
Oct-29-09 03:47 PM |
#35 |
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Just like "health care reform", |
dgibby |
Oct-29-09 03:47 PM |
#36 |
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Getting on the HopeMobile! |
RetroLounge |
Oct-29-09 03:51 PM |
#38 |
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Oh, the audacity! |
Art_from_Ark |
Oct-29-09 08:32 PM |
#110 |
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Which of the two evils (torture, the evidence) is worse? |
alp227 |
Oct-29-09 04:00 PM |
#40 |
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No,. Besides, the last 8 years (including 2009) have given the Taliban and Al Qaeda with more than |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 07:33 AM |
#170 |
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P.S. What do you think might give Al Qaeda more recruits, the photos of what occurred during |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 09:54 AM |
#185 |
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So much for transparency....so much for change... |
winyanstaz |
Oct-29-09 04:01 PM |
#42 |
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This is just wrong. n/t |
EFerrari |
Oct-29-09 04:04 PM |
#43 |
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GIve a little take a little. What is the reason for the non transparency |
The Wielding Truth |
Oct-29-09 04:10 PM |
#44 |
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crapola from our WH!! |
joeycola |
Oct-29-09 04:12 PM |
#45 |
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Well, I guess change is only in my pocket. |
Javaman |
Oct-29-09 04:12 PM |
#46 |
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Thanks to Joe Liebermann for creating the bill that was just signed n/t |
bunnysoft |
Oct-29-09 04:16 PM |
#47 |
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And to the Democratic Congress for passing it and to the Democratic President for |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 07:38 AM |
#173 |
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Yesterday: "YAY HE SIGNED THE HATE CRIMES BILL HE'S SO AWESOME!" |
Chulanowa |
Oct-29-09 04:18 PM |
#48 |
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and? |
chadmak09 |
Oct-29-09 04:35 PM |
#52 |
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You really don't understand the nature of a hate crime, do you? |
Chulanowa |
Oct-29-09 04:45 PM |
#54 |
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You should be behind bars in both situations, permanently |
Ahpook |
Oct-29-09 07:04 PM |
#86 |
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Thought should never be a crime. |
Laelth |
Oct-29-09 08:06 PM |
#104 |
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If the crime is done to terrorize others then it is a hate crime. |
bjobotts |
Oct-29-09 10:54 PM |
#140 |
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Kind of surprising, isn't it? |
Chulanowa |
Oct-30-09 12:08 AM |
#144 |
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That is dangerous ground. Besides, why isn't that simply terrorism, which is a crime in itself? |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 08:00 AM |
#176 |
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you got it wrong |
chadmak09 |
Oct-29-09 08:06 PM |
#105 |
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Actually you have very good points there... |
winyanstaz |
Oct-30-09 02:49 AM |
#149 |
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Good point, but we are always posting/talking about people who get |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 07:57 AM |
#175 |
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Glenn Beck, is that you? |
Jim Sagle |
Oct-29-09 05:15 PM |
#63 |
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Nonsense, motivation is always a consideration in the judicial process. nt |
Umbral |
Oct-29-09 08:40 PM |
#113 |
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Motive and opportunity may be considered, but never like this. |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 08:15 AM |
#177 |
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hate crimes were routinely unpunished in this country |
noiretextatique |
Oct-30-09 12:48 PM |
#202 |
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It's about issues--or should be--not about whether Obama is good or bad. |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 07:43 AM |
#174 |
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One day we celebrate, the next we're rending our shirts |
Chulanowa |
Oct-31-09 01:12 PM |
#224 |
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So now they'll take hires pics of all incriminating docs and burn the paper copies |
Dreamer Tatum |
Oct-29-09 04:30 PM |
#51 |
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Yup....a new loophole. |
Zodiak |
Oct-29-09 05:28 PM |
#72 |
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Champaign Corks popping all over Washington! |
bvar22 |
Oct-29-09 04:48 PM |
#56 |
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Groan, |
irislake |
Oct-29-09 04:52 PM |
#57 |
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You already stated the reason the right-wingers hate the French |
Zodiak |
Oct-29-09 05:24 PM |
#69 |
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It's a little worse than that where I live. It's not just the French. |
Altoid_Cyclist |
Oct-30-09 05:43 AM |
#152 |
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If America were demographically and geographically like France, and Congress had not eviscerated the |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 08:30 AM |
#178 |
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C E N S O R S H I P . . . |
Lena inRI |
Oct-29-09 04:56 PM |
#58 |
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i'm sure GD:P is already putting a spin on this one |
FLAprogressive |
Oct-29-09 04:56 PM |
#59 |
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no, actually, it's crickets about this. I asked two of his most ardent, uncritical |
niyad |
Oct-31-09 09:22 AM |
#212 |
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You're doing a Heckuva Job Obama. /golfclap |
Grinchie |
Oct-29-09 05:08 PM |
#61 |
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What's there to say? It's just pathetic. nt |
RedCappedBandit |
Oct-29-09 05:17 PM |
#64 |
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These photos are very low on the things I truly care about. |
high density |
Oct-29-09 05:25 PM |
#70 |
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Without the Abu Ghraib pics, we wouldn't know about the abuse nt |
Dreamer Tatum |
Oct-29-09 05:35 PM |
#73 |
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But we know about it now and the abuse has been stopped |
Liberation Angel |
Oct-29-09 05:59 PM |
#77 |
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Re: The abuse (supposedly) having ended, please see Reply #181. |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 09:40 AM |
#183 |
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have you been listening all the times he has said that he "wants to look forward, not back" and |
niyad |
Oct-31-09 09:27 AM |
#214 |
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A torture investigation goes directly back to 9/11, which is why Obama's scared *less |
EVDebs |
Oct-29-09 07:21 PM |
#89 |
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Not sure why you think abuse has ended. Everything I've seen about extraordinary rendition says |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 09:09 AM |
#181 |
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I believe that the TORTURE has ended |
Liberation Angel |
Oct-30-09 11:59 AM |
#195 |
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By "abuse, I mostly meant mostly torture.. The purpose of extraordinary rendition is |
No Elephants |
Oct-31-09 10:03 AM |
#220 |
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Why the Hate? This is a Judgment Call. And the bill INCLUDES transfer of Guantanamo prisoners |
Liberation Angel |
Oct-29-09 05:48 PM |
#75 |
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Who said anything about prosecuting Bush and Cheney? |
rollingrock |
Oct-29-09 06:25 PM |
#79 |
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yes. let us hope |
kaehele |
Oct-29-09 06:29 PM |
#81 |
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Dissent is not hatred. |
EFerrari |
Oct-29-09 08:44 PM |
#116 |
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Didn't you know Obama is just Bush with a halloween mask? |
davidpdx |
Oct-29-09 10:28 PM |
#134 |
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What is he doing, really? |
caseymoz |
Oct-29-09 10:59 PM |
#141 |
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Obama is on the side of re-election and also on the side of having as much leeway |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 08:42 AM |
#179 |
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Maybe, but then as a self-seeking man without integrity, he's on their side. nt |
caseymoz |
Oct-30-09 02:51 PM |
#205 |
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Maybe this is mostly semantics, casey, but, IMO, choosing a side---meaning a set of issues-- |
No Elephants |
Oct-31-09 10:11 AM |
#221 |
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Not when the choice your really making is about where to mine your votes. |
caseymoz |
Oct-31-09 08:54 PM |
#226 |
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a/ Why do you equate disagreement/disapproval with hate? B/ Not releasing the photos does NOT |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 07:23 AM |
#169 |
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There are some haters here, it seems, and saying something is "myth" is... |
Liberation Angel |
Oct-30-09 11:47 AM |
#194 |
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"if he holds the presidency, he can make it all up to us" ??? |
niyad |
Oct-30-09 11:10 PM |
#210 |
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so you think dissent and disagreement are hatred? wow |
niyad |
Oct-30-09 11:17 PM |
#211 |
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the nazis felt the same way about dissent |
fascisthunter |
Oct-31-09 10:49 AM |
#222 |
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Major betrayal. |
caseymoz |
Oct-29-09 05:50 PM |
#76 |
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+1 |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-29-09 06:39 PM |
#83 |
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agreed. |
marasinghe |
Oct-29-09 08:42 PM |
#115 |
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more coverup-photos are the real evidence. |
katty |
Oct-29-09 06:19 PM |
#78 |
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Let the TRUTH be heard! |
indimuse |
Oct-29-09 06:27 PM |
#80 |
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The Audacity of Nope. |
gorfle |
Oct-29-09 06:39 PM |
#82 |
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LOL's ...Once he got in there and saw how bad it was he said: |
KoKo |
Oct-29-09 06:45 PM |
#84 |
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yep |
Torn_Scorned_Ignored |
Oct-29-09 10:04 PM |
#132 |
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Wow...I can just FEEL that change... |
truebrit71 |
Oct-29-09 06:59 PM |
#85 |
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The Spanish judge may force the DOJ / CIA into an inquiry |
EVDebs |
Oct-29-09 07:18 PM |
#88 |
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Why is Obama buying the DOD's bill of goods?? |
orbitalman |
Oct-29-09 07:23 PM |
#90 |
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To the tune of $680 billion |
rollingrock |
Oct-29-09 07:35 PM |
#91 |
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this sucks - they keep protecting the criminals n/t |
2Design |
Oct-29-09 07:52 PM |
#93 |
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You have got to be kidding. |
Laelth |
Oct-29-09 07:56 PM |
#94 |
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Spineless political appeasement and good ol boy wink to torture, rape |
scentopine |
Oct-29-09 08:06 PM |
#103 |
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Transparency??? |
vssmith |
Oct-29-09 08:09 PM |
#107 |
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What a bunch of shit. Don't want to dirty our little minds, or remind anyone |
tekisui |
Oct-29-09 08:19 PM |
#109 |
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Just adds to the levels of secret government -- and moves us in the wrong direction!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-29-09 08:40 PM |
#114 |
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NWO , no matter how you enamor it. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Oct-29-09 08:54 PM |
#121 |
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Silly question. I know Obama signed it. But if I remember my "Schoolhouse Rock" |
Robb |
Oct-29-09 09:17 PM |
#124 |
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They throw a bone for everyone to chew on while they stab us in the back |
pleah |
Oct-29-09 09:21 PM |
#125 |
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I can't possibly be the only one here to see that... |
eggplant |
Oct-29-09 09:34 PM |
#127 |
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Maybe he needs a taste of Bush Poll numbers to knock some |
humbled_opinion |
Oct-29-09 09:40 PM |
#129 |
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The audacity of....what was that exactly? |
McCamy Taylor |
Oct-29-09 10:08 PM |
#133 |
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Yeah. Watch the UK ambassador to Ubezistan video for why Lieberman made sure to cover up |
bjobotts |
Oct-29-09 10:42 PM |
#136 |
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"Boiled alive photos".Bush's torture was systemic and massive and done for political gain |
bjobotts |
Oct-29-09 10:43 PM |
#137 |
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Obama cannot cover up our shame.We must hold this mass murdrer accountable |
bjobotts |
Oct-29-09 10:45 PM |
#138 |
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Tortured for false confessions to say members of AQ, meant OBL,terror training camps etc |
bjobotts |
Oct-29-09 10:49 PM |
#139 |
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I never believed all the pretty words ... but, I hoped. |
SaveOurDemocracy |
Oct-29-09 11:14 PM |
#142 |
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May have to side with Obama on this one.. |
PatrynXX |
Oct-29-09 11:14 PM |
#143 |
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You should read the thread. Nothing about this is "grey.". Burying the photos is to avoid |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 10:14 AM |
#188 |
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Cover up of the Bush crimes :( n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Oct-30-09 12:22 AM |
#145 |
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a good time to JOIN the ACLU |
grasswire |
Oct-30-09 12:41 AM |
#146 |
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+1. And Amnesty International. Or at least act on the issue of torture via Amnesty's website.... |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 09:48 AM |
#184 |
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here's a kick for that. (eom) |
grasswire |
Oct-30-09 11:33 AM |
#192 |
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Not the change I voted for. |
harry_pothead |
Oct-30-09 12:52 AM |
#147 |
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And thats the point ,what was said ,verse what Is done. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Oct-30-09 08:14 PM |
#209 |
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Sadly - Much Of The Promised Change Was Merely A Change Of Face |
ProleNoMore |
Oct-30-09 12:56 AM |
#148 |
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Give him a break. He's only been president for (insert number here) months... n/t |
rooboy |
Oct-30-09 04:03 AM |
#151 |
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The most open administration in history will tell you everything it doesn't mind your knowing. |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 06:03 AM |
#155 |
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Good for Obama |
katkat |
Oct-30-09 07:34 AM |
#171 |
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A voyeuristic love of torture that can be safisfied with generic snuff films? That is what you |
No Elephants |
Oct-30-09 08:45 AM |
#180 |
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well, censorship. officially. |
robinlynne |
Oct-30-09 11:39 AM |
#193 |
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yes...this is censorship |
noiretextatique |
Oct-30-09 12:50 PM |
#203 |
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I take it this is being signed for the guantamo stuff and not the FOIA stuff? |
Realityhack |
Oct-30-09 01:06 PM |
#204 |
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Well... there goes 6,000+ 9/11 photos we'll never see. n/t |
Mythbuster |
Oct-30-09 05:31 PM |
#207 |
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Quick! |
t0dd |
Oct-30-09 07:03 PM |
#208 |
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kick |
niyad |
Oct-31-09 09:33 AM |
#215 |
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kick.... |
unkachuck |
Oct-31-09 09:22 PM |
#227 |