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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 07:56 PM
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94. You have got to be kidding.
Somebody talk me down, please. This can't be real.

:banghead:

:dem:

-Laelth
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  -President Signs Law Giving Defense Dept Authority To Exempt Photos From Freedom Of Information Act kpete  Oct-29-09 01:16 PM   #0 
  - Why, the "change" is coming fast and furiously, this morning!  villager   Oct-29-09 01:17 PM   #1 
  - Yes, it's accelerating!  FiveGoodMen   Oct-29-09 01:21 PM   #3 
  - Hey now. Gay people are now protected under hate crimes, even though they still can't serve openly  T Wolf   Oct-29-09 01:24 PM   #5 
  - He reversed the last-minute oil leases Bush sold just before he left office.  Bette Noir   Oct-29-09 01:32 PM   #8 
  - They only reversed some of the oil leases. In Alaska they still have the go ahead.  Arctic Dave   Oct-29-09 01:52 PM   #12 
  - Hey, don't forget the preemptive Nobel peace price!  liberation   Oct-29-09 05:20 PM   #66 
     - "PRICE"...IS RIGHT!!  taggline   Oct-30-09 05:49 AM   #154 
  - Authorized stem cell research (not terribly controversial anymore), admits to other  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 06:13 AM   #157 
  - I can hardly keep up with all this change.  Mari333   Oct-29-09 01:25 PM   #6 
  - I was going to change the country...but, I changed my mind, instead  taggline   Oct-30-09 05:48 AM   #153 
     - Who knew "change" meant getting Olympia Snowe's vote at all costs, though?  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 06:10 AM   #156 
  - Not me.  chadmak09   Oct-29-09 04:20 PM   #49 
     - He always was just another politician.  tXr   Oct-29-09 05:09 PM   #62 
        - He was merely the lesser of two evils.  empire we are   Oct-29-09 05:41 PM   #74 
        - Obama's first job out of college was with a CIA front company  EVDebs   Oct-29-09 07:11 PM   #87 
           - Pretty soon we're going to have to change the name of the country to CIA, INC.  defendandprotect   Oct-29-09 08:46 PM   #117 
           - "...the left wing of the ruling class" . .. wanted Eugene McCarthy as Pres...!!!  defendandprotect   Oct-29-09 08:52 PM   #119 
           - 1/ That wiki article is not exactly solid. 2/ Even if it is true, do you think a college kid knew  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 06:29 AM   #158 
        - You mean people actually bought the "hope and change" schtick?  twitomy   Oct-29-09 09:13 PM   #123 
           - Some did ---- I never did  saigon68   Oct-30-09 06:59 AM   #163 
           - And you want the government to be further left?  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 07:09 AM   #167 
              - Depends on the issue...  twitomy   Oct-30-09 05:26 PM   #206 
                 - On which things would you like government to be further left?  No Elephants   Oct-31-09 09:26 AM   #213 
                    - Wow, I have a following!  twitomy   Oct-31-09 01:19 PM   #225 
  - Its a good bill. We all saw how enraged  lefty369   Oct-29-09 07:47 PM   #92 
  - Nonsense. The Arab world has already seen the photos.They don't want U to see them  bjobotts   Oct-29-09 07:57 PM   #95 
  - Covering Bush's ass is a full time job for Obama.Our shame continues  bjobotts   Oct-29-09 07:58 PM   #96 
  - The photos show torture was systemic not isolated and we tortured innocents to death.  bjobotts   Oct-29-09 08:00 PM   #97 
     - Now stick your head back in the sand and forget Bush's crimes.Presidents are above the law  bjobotts   Oct-29-09 08:01 PM   #98 
        - Indefinite preventive detention???That's what our founding fathers stood for huh  bjobotts   Oct-29-09 08:03 PM   #99 
           - Put you hands in your ears but this is the Bush Obama now. and of course...  bjobotts   Oct-29-09 08:04 PM   #100 
              - ...it was Joe Liebermann who snuck that provision into the bill for Obama  bjobotts   Oct-29-09 08:04 PM   #101 
                 - Just like Obama's Joe is making sure the public option is killed like "trigger"Obama wanted  bjobotts   Oct-29-09 08:06 PM   #102 
                    - Rates not tied to Medicare means premiums for PO will be higher than private plans  bjobotts   Oct-29-09 08:08 PM   #106 
                       - see post #199  snooper2   Oct-30-09 12:15 PM   #200 
  - Americans ought not know what their government does. Knowledge may affect the way they vote!  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 06:39 AM   #160 
  - do you only have one thought at a time  snooper2   Oct-30-09 12:12 PM   #196 
  - and another  snooper2   Oct-30-09 12:12 PM   #197 
     - and another  snooper2   Oct-30-09 12:12 PM   #198 
  - meant to reply to 106 instead of 160...but the sub-thread  snooper2   Oct-30-09 12:14 PM   #199 
  - It upsets the Sheep to see the dark side of the Revered Military  saigon68   Oct-30-09 07:07 AM   #166 
  - This is wrong on so many levels it is sickening...  scentopine   Oct-29-09 08:33 PM   #111 
  - Excellent post.  CrispyQ   Oct-30-09 10:01 AM   #186 
     - Yes - there are two stimulus programs in USA  scentopine   Oct-31-09 10:56 AM   #223 
  - No ... what prevents torture is holding those responsible for it accountable ...  defendandprotect   Oct-29-09 08:47 PM   #118 
  - Delusional  pmorlan1   Oct-29-09 08:53 PM   #120 
  - It's a great bill !!  astroBspacedog   Oct-29-09 10:38 PM   #135 
  - Yep, it's the Rumsfeld Doctrine  tavalon   Oct-30-09 11:18 AM   #190 
  - LOL!  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 06:32 AM   #159 
  - He had no choice  Ter   Nov-01-09 01:49 AM   #228 
  - f'kn bullshit  barbtries   Oct-29-09 01:20 PM   #2 
  - More crap.  Hell Hath No Fury   Oct-29-09 01:22 PM   #4 
  - How very, very hopeful and changealicious! n/t  QC   Oct-29-09 01:28 PM   #7 
  - I think it's...changiness.  chimpymustgo   Oct-29-09 03:38 PM   #32 
     - But you have to admit--it was a fantastic ad slogan.  QC   Oct-29-09 04:01 PM   #41 
     - Was the "testes" a Freudian Slip? LOL ;-)  liberation   Oct-29-09 05:22 PM   #67 
     - LOL! Didn't even notice that.  QC   Oct-29-09 05:26 PM   #71 
     - a lack of same in our leaders, bring the 'T' word out of your sub-conscious? :) (n/t)  marasinghe   Oct-29-09 08:33 PM   #112 
     - More like..."Where's the beef?" (nt)  CoffeeCat   Oct-29-09 09:36 PM   #128 
     - I firmly oppose testes that are less filling.  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 07:36 AM   #172 
     - Is that like truthiness?  tavalon   Oct-30-09 11:19 AM   #191 
  - Disappointing.  Bette Noir   Oct-29-09 01:32 PM   #9 
  - America the Free!!!!!  fascisthunter   Oct-29-09 01:33 PM   #10 
  - Transparency?  paparush   Oct-29-09 01:41 PM   #11 
  - Freedom Of Some Information Act  Oregone   Oct-29-09 02:00 PM   #13 
  - But hell, photos aren't information, right?  AlbertCat   Oct-29-09 03:49 PM   #37 
  - The photos from viet Nam ended that war.  bjobotts   Oct-29-09 08:09 PM   #108 
     - well, you know - we have a more responsible main-stream media now, than back in the 60's.  marasinghe   Oct-29-09 08:57 PM   #122 
     - If you liked SURGE 1  saigon68   Oct-30-09 07:00 AM   #164 
     - Uh, no it didn't.  Le Taz Hot   Oct-30-09 04:02 AM   #150 
     - So, the light at the end of the tunnel was a flash bulb?  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 06:44 AM   #161 
  - Those photos jeapardize their personal, er I mean National security.  DUlover2909   Oct-29-09 04:47 PM   #55 
  - Almost totally Freedom of Some Information Act --  defendandprotect   Oct-29-09 09:50 PM   #130 
     - The best way we can fight for them, IMO, is to donate to the ACLU, which IS fighting for them  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 07:13 AM   #168 
        - I'm a contributing member ....  defendandprotect   Oct-30-09 10:43 AM   #189 
           - Based on your posts, I assumed that. I hope others read my post, though.  No Elephants   Oct-31-09 09:49 AM   #218 
  - Today's Daily Disappointment  MsLeopard   Oct-29-09 02:01 PM   #14 
  - I don't think he had a choice  Qutzupalotl   Oct-29-09 02:11 PM   #15 
  - Neither did Bushler...  WriteDown   Oct-29-09 02:32 PM   #17 
  - CIA contractors started the torture under Bush.  Qutzupalotl   Oct-29-09 03:25 PM   #27 
     - Nope, the CIA made Bush start that program.  WriteDown   Oct-29-09 03:30 PM   #28 
     - Isn't sarcasm supposed to be funny?  Qutzupalotl   Oct-29-09 03:45 PM   #34 
        - About as funny as Obama being controlled by the CIA  WriteDown   Oct-29-09 03:53 PM   #39 
           - I guess the DU archives of 2001-2008 are full of posts by you condemning torture then?  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 09:29 AM   #182 
              - I forgive you for that....  WriteDown   Oct-30-09 10:04 AM   #187 
                 - To the contrary, you know otherwise. And, I'll take that as a no, the archives of DU are not  No Elephants   Oct-31-09 09:34 AM   #216 
                    - If you can signal me where the CIA is holding you..  WriteDown   Oct-31-09 09:56 AM   #219 
     - And Obama has no plans to prosecute Bush, so no threats are necessary.  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 06:51 AM   #162 
        - There could have been threats before Holder's decision not to prosecute.  Qutzupalotl   Oct-30-09 12:40 PM   #201 
           - I don't think this has a thing to do with the CIA.  No Elephants   Oct-31-09 09:38 AM   #217 
  - Yes he had a choice. The CIA isn't Obama's boss. Remember JFK fired CIA Director Allen Dulles  Xicano   Oct-29-09 04:40 PM   #53 
     - And look where that got him. n/t  Qutzupalotl   Oct-29-09 05:03 PM   #60 
        - I am pretty sure that was the point of the OP...  liberation   Oct-29-09 05:23 PM   #68 
        - Yes . . . we had a dead president and Dulles got promoted to Warren Commission--!!  defendandprotect   Oct-29-09 09:51 PM   #131 
  - Mission accomplished  Scruffy1   Oct-29-09 02:29 PM   #16 
  - What a chickenshit move by Obama.  Flaneur   Oct-29-09 02:35 PM   #18 
  - We are seeing in some respects, from a corporate & imperialistic standpoint there is no difference.  GreenTea   Oct-29-09 02:55 PM   #20 
  - Just another of "change we can believe in".  pattmarty   Oct-29-09 02:54 PM   #19 
  - Upsetting  Dogtown   Oct-29-09 02:58 PM   #21 
  - Obama and Dems  placton   Oct-29-09 03:05 PM   #22 
  - used to get calls from DSCC et al  guyton   Oct-29-09 03:05 PM   #23 
  - Agreed. No more Dem party money EVER AGAIN.  freddie mertz   Oct-29-09 04:26 PM   #50 
  - Fist bump. I am now donating to support the ACLU, Amnesty International and  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 07:05 AM   #165 
  - lol  d_b   Oct-29-09 03:13 PM   #24 
  - What a choice that was.  tXr   Oct-29-09 05:17 PM   #65 
     - Obama/Biden promised change of substance  bikingaz   Oct-29-09 09:28 PM   #126 
  - Obama won't get any money from me  lebkuchen   Oct-29-09 03:15 PM   #25 
  - Screwed again. Screw you, Obama!  katandmoon   Oct-29-09 03:20 PM   #26 
  - I'm running out of hope and good will, Mr. President. This isn't the change you promised.  Piewhacket   Oct-29-09 03:30 PM   #29 
  - k/r  Solly Mack   Oct-29-09 03:34 PM   #30 
  - Ya know...  Cherchez la Femme   Oct-29-09 03:36 PM   #31 
  - I think mayge he was fibbing about that whole transparency thing.  Tim01   Oct-29-09 03:41 PM   #33 
  - I'm not happy about the non release of the photos, but  Jefferson23   Oct-29-09 03:47 PM   #35 
  - Just like "health care reform",  dgibby   Oct-29-09 03:47 PM   #36 
  - Getting on the HopeMobile!  RetroLounge   Oct-29-09 03:51 PM   #38 
  - Oh, the audacity!  Art_from_Ark   Oct-29-09 08:32 PM   #110 
  - Which of the two evils (torture, the evidence) is worse?  alp227   Oct-29-09 04:00 PM   #40 
  - No,. Besides, the last 8 years (including 2009) have given the Taliban and Al Qaeda with more than  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 07:33 AM   #170 
  - P.S. What do you think might give Al Qaeda more recruits, the photos of what occurred during  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 09:54 AM   #185 
  - So much for transparency....so much for change...  winyanstaz   Oct-29-09 04:01 PM   #42 
  - This is just wrong. n/t  EFerrari   Oct-29-09 04:04 PM   #43 
  - GIve a little take a little. What is the reason for the non transparency  The Wielding Truth   Oct-29-09 04:10 PM   #44 
  - crapola from our WH!!  joeycola   Oct-29-09 04:12 PM   #45 
  - Well, I guess change is only in my pocket.  Javaman   Oct-29-09 04:12 PM   #46 
  - Thanks to Joe Liebermann for creating the bill that was just signed n/t  bunnysoft   Oct-29-09 04:16 PM   #47 
  - And to the Democratic Congress for passing it and to the Democratic President for  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 07:38 AM   #173 
  - Yesterday: "YAY HE SIGNED THE HATE CRIMES BILL HE'S SO AWESOME!"  Chulanowa   Oct-29-09 04:18 PM   #48 
  - and?  chadmak09   Oct-29-09 04:35 PM   #52 
  - You really don't understand the nature of a hate crime, do you?  Chulanowa   Oct-29-09 04:45 PM   #54 
  - You should be behind bars in both situations, permanently  Ahpook   Oct-29-09 07:04 PM   #86 
  - Thought should never be a crime.  Laelth   Oct-29-09 08:06 PM   #104 
  - If the crime is done to terrorize others then it is a hate crime.  bjobotts   Oct-29-09 10:54 PM   #140 
     - Kind of surprising, isn't it?  Chulanowa   Oct-30-09 12:08 AM   #144 
     - That is dangerous ground. Besides, why isn't that simply terrorism, which is a crime in itself?  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 08:00 AM   #176 
  - you got it wrong  chadmak09   Oct-29-09 08:06 PM   #105 
  - Actually you have very good points there...  winyanstaz   Oct-30-09 02:49 AM   #149 
  - Good point, but we are always posting/talking about people who get  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 07:57 AM   #175 
  - Glenn Beck, is that you?  Jim Sagle   Oct-29-09 05:15 PM   #63 
  - Nonsense, motivation is always a consideration in the judicial process. nt  Umbral   Oct-29-09 08:40 PM   #113 
  - Motive and opportunity may be considered, but never like this.  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 08:15 AM   #177 
  - hate crimes were routinely unpunished in this country  noiretextatique   Oct-30-09 12:48 PM   #202 
  - It's about issues--or should be--not about whether Obama is good or bad.  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 07:43 AM   #174 
     - One day we celebrate, the next we're rending our shirts  Chulanowa   Oct-31-09 01:12 PM   #224 
  - So now they'll take hires pics of all incriminating docs and burn the paper copies  Dreamer Tatum   Oct-29-09 04:30 PM   #51 
  - Yup....a new loophole.  Zodiak   Oct-29-09 05:28 PM   #72 
  - Champaign Corks popping all over Washington!  bvar22   Oct-29-09 04:48 PM   #56 
  - Groan,  irislake   Oct-29-09 04:52 PM   #57 
  - You already stated the reason the right-wingers hate the French  Zodiak   Oct-29-09 05:24 PM   #69 
  - It's a little worse than that where I live. It's not just the French.  Altoid_Cyclist   Oct-30-09 05:43 AM   #152 
  - If America were demographically and geographically like France, and Congress had not eviscerated the  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 08:30 AM   #178 
  - C E N S O R S H I P . . .  Lena inRI   Oct-29-09 04:56 PM   #58 
  - i'm sure GD:P is already putting a spin on this one  FLAprogressive   Oct-29-09 04:56 PM   #59 
  - no, actually, it's crickets about this. I asked two of his most ardent, uncritical  niyad   Oct-31-09 09:22 AM   #212 
  - You're doing a Heckuva Job Obama. /golfclap  Grinchie   Oct-29-09 05:08 PM   #61 
  - What's there to say? It's just pathetic. nt  RedCappedBandit   Oct-29-09 05:17 PM   #64 
  - These photos are very low on the things I truly care about.  high density   Oct-29-09 05:25 PM   #70 
  - Without the Abu Ghraib pics, we wouldn't know about the abuse nt  Dreamer Tatum   Oct-29-09 05:35 PM   #73 
  - But we know about it now and the abuse has been stopped  Liberation Angel   Oct-29-09 05:59 PM   #77 
     - Re: The abuse (supposedly) having ended, please see Reply #181.  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 09:40 AM   #183 
     - have you been listening all the times he has said that he "wants to look forward, not back" and  niyad   Oct-31-09 09:27 AM   #214 
  - A torture investigation goes directly back to 9/11, which is why Obama's scared *less  EVDebs   Oct-29-09 07:21 PM   #89 
  - Not sure why you think abuse has ended. Everything I've seen about extraordinary rendition says  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 09:09 AM   #181 
     - I believe that the TORTURE has ended  Liberation Angel   Oct-30-09 11:59 AM   #195 
        - By "abuse, I mostly meant mostly torture.. The purpose of extraordinary rendition is  No Elephants   Oct-31-09 10:03 AM   #220 
  - Why the Hate? This is a Judgment Call. And the bill INCLUDES transfer of Guantanamo prisoners  Liberation Angel   Oct-29-09 05:48 PM   #75 
  - Who said anything about prosecuting Bush and Cheney?  rollingrock   Oct-29-09 06:25 PM   #79 
  - yes. let us hope  kaehele   Oct-29-09 06:29 PM   #81 
  - Dissent is not hatred.  EFerrari   Oct-29-09 08:44 PM   #116 
  - Didn't you know Obama is just Bush with a halloween mask?  davidpdx   Oct-29-09 10:28 PM   #134 
  - What is he doing, really?  caseymoz   Oct-29-09 10:59 PM   #141 
  - Obama is on the side of re-election and also on the side of having as much leeway  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 08:42 AM   #179 
     - Maybe, but then as a self-seeking man without integrity, he's on their side. nt  caseymoz   Oct-30-09 02:51 PM   #205 
        - Maybe this is mostly semantics, casey, but, IMO, choosing a side---meaning a set of issues--  No Elephants   Oct-31-09 10:11 AM   #221 
           - Not when the choice your really making is about where to mine your votes.  caseymoz   Oct-31-09 08:54 PM   #226 
  - a/ Why do you equate disagreement/disapproval with hate? B/ Not releasing the photos does NOT  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 07:23 AM   #169 
  - There are some haters here, it seems, and saying something is "myth" is...  Liberation Angel   Oct-30-09 11:47 AM   #194 
  - "if he holds the presidency, he can make it all up to us" ???  niyad   Oct-30-09 11:10 PM   #210 
  - so you think dissent and disagreement are hatred? wow  niyad   Oct-30-09 11:17 PM   #211 
     - the nazis felt the same way about dissent  fascisthunter   Oct-31-09 10:49 AM   #222 
  - Major betrayal.  caseymoz   Oct-29-09 05:50 PM   #76 
  - +1  Nikki Stone1   Oct-29-09 06:39 PM   #83 
  - agreed.  marasinghe   Oct-29-09 08:42 PM   #115 
  - more coverup-photos are the real evidence.  katty   Oct-29-09 06:19 PM   #78 
  - Let the TRUTH be heard!  indimuse   Oct-29-09 06:27 PM   #80 
  - The Audacity of Nope.  gorfle   Oct-29-09 06:39 PM   #82 
  - LOL's ...Once he got in there and saw how bad it was he said:  KoKo   Oct-29-09 06:45 PM   #84 
  - yep  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Oct-29-09 10:04 PM   #132 
  - Wow...I can just FEEL that change...  truebrit71   Oct-29-09 06:59 PM   #85 
  - The Spanish judge may force the DOJ / CIA into an inquiry  EVDebs   Oct-29-09 07:18 PM   #88 
  - Why is Obama buying the DOD's bill of goods??  orbitalman   Oct-29-09 07:23 PM   #90 
  - To the tune of $680 billion  rollingrock   Oct-29-09 07:35 PM   #91 
  - this sucks - they keep protecting the criminals n/t  2Design   Oct-29-09 07:52 PM   #93 
  - You have got to be kidding.  Laelth   Oct-29-09 07:56 PM   #94 
  - Spineless political appeasement and good ol boy wink to torture, rape  scentopine   Oct-29-09 08:06 PM   #103 
  - Transparency???  vssmith   Oct-29-09 08:09 PM   #107 
  - What a bunch of shit. Don't want to dirty our little minds, or remind anyone  tekisui   Oct-29-09 08:19 PM   #109 
  - Just adds to the levels of secret government -- and moves us in the wrong direction!!  defendandprotect   Oct-29-09 08:40 PM   #114 
  - NWO , no matter how you enamor it.  orpupilofnature57   Oct-29-09 08:54 PM   #121 
  - Silly question. I know Obama signed it. But if I remember my "Schoolhouse Rock"  Robb   Oct-29-09 09:17 PM   #124 
  - They throw a bone for everyone to chew on while they stab us in the back  pleah   Oct-29-09 09:21 PM   #125 
  - I can't possibly be the only one here to see that...  eggplant   Oct-29-09 09:34 PM   #127 
  - Maybe he needs a taste of Bush Poll numbers to knock some  humbled_opinion   Oct-29-09 09:40 PM   #129 
  - The audacity of....what was that exactly?  McCamy Taylor   Oct-29-09 10:08 PM   #133 
  - Yeah. Watch the UK ambassador to Ubezistan video for why Lieberman made sure to cover up  bjobotts   Oct-29-09 10:42 PM   #136 
  - "Boiled alive photos".Bush's torture was systemic and massive and done for political gain  bjobotts   Oct-29-09 10:43 PM   #137 
     - Obama cannot cover up our shame.We must hold this mass murdrer accountable  bjobotts   Oct-29-09 10:45 PM   #138 
        - Tortured for false confessions to say members of AQ, meant OBL,terror training camps etc  bjobotts   Oct-29-09 10:49 PM   #139 
  - I never believed all the pretty words ... but, I hoped.  SaveOurDemocracy   Oct-29-09 11:14 PM   #142 
  - May have to side with Obama on this one..  PatrynXX   Oct-29-09 11:14 PM   #143 
  - You should read the thread. Nothing about this is "grey.". Burying the photos is to avoid  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 10:14 AM   #188 
  - Cover up of the Bush crimes :( n/t  slipslidingaway   Oct-30-09 12:22 AM   #145 
  - a good time to JOIN the ACLU  grasswire   Oct-30-09 12:41 AM   #146 
  - +1. And Amnesty International. Or at least act on the issue of torture via Amnesty's website....  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 09:48 AM   #184 
     - here's a kick for that. (eom)  grasswire   Oct-30-09 11:33 AM   #192 
  - Not the change I voted for.  harry_pothead   Oct-30-09 12:52 AM   #147 
  - And thats the point ,what was said ,verse what Is done.  orpupilofnature57   Oct-30-09 08:14 PM   #209 
  - Sadly - Much Of The Promised Change Was Merely A Change Of Face  ProleNoMore   Oct-30-09 12:56 AM   #148 
  - Give him a break. He's only been president for (insert number here) months... n/t  rooboy   Oct-30-09 04:03 AM   #151 
  - The most open administration in history will tell you everything it doesn't mind your knowing.  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 06:03 AM   #155 
  - Good for Obama  katkat   Oct-30-09 07:34 AM   #171 
  - A voyeuristic love of torture that can be safisfied with generic snuff films? That is what you  No Elephants   Oct-30-09 08:45 AM   #180 
  - well, censorship. officially.  robinlynne   Oct-30-09 11:39 AM   #193 
  - yes...this is censorship  noiretextatique   Oct-30-09 12:50 PM   #203 
  - I take it this is being signed for the guantamo stuff and not the FOIA stuff?  Realityhack   Oct-30-09 01:06 PM   #204 
  - Well... there goes 6,000+ 9/11 photos we'll never see. n/t  Mythbuster   Oct-30-09 05:31 PM   #207 
  - Quick!  t0dd   Oct-30-09 07:03 PM   #208 
  - kick  niyad   Oct-31-09 09:33 AM   #215 
  - kick....  unkachuck   Oct-31-09 09:22 PM   #227 
 

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