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Fri Oct-16-09 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #82 |
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Here. There is a reason his foundation doesn't contribute much within his own country.
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| -Bill Gates says ideology threatens hunger fix |
bemildred |
Oct-15-09 06:21 PM |
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A big FUCK YOU to Mr. Gates. GMO crops are a Pandora's box that should |
kestrel91316 |
Oct-15-09 06:34 PM |
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I'll gladly second your "FUCK YOU" to Gates. |
scarletwoman |
Oct-15-09 07:03 PM |
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Imposing on and opposing nature has saved billions of lives. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-15-09 07:25 PM |
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Yeah, Mr. Gates, your *economic* ideology |
Cal Carpenter |
Oct-15-09 06:44 PM |
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There is a solution that Gates would hate that embraces potentially useful new technology. |
sudopod |
Oct-16-09 12:34 PM |
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Gates has his. |
spotbird |
Oct-16-09 08:28 PM |
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Indeed, Gates is all about Gates. That's been clear for a long time. nt |
bemildred |
Oct-16-09 08:33 PM |
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Please |
LeFleur1 |
Oct-18-09 10:28 AM |
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These people could grow natural crops using agricultural methods that don't strip |
bertman |
Oct-15-09 06:45 PM |
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So why aren't they? |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-15-09 06:57 PM |
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Biotech Companies Up GMO Campaign in Africa |
bemildred |
Oct-15-09 07:02 PM |
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And if they are offered a version of Cotton that is resistant to the Jewel Beetle |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-15-09 07:16 PM |
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If it is free, it's fine. |
bemildred |
Oct-15-09 07:17 PM |
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But people were citing dangers to health and environment, not economic hostage taking. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-15-09 07:21 PM |
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So now I am not "people"? |
bemildred |
Oct-15-09 07:25 PM |
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Oh they are. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-15-09 07:27 PM |
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By that logic, sub-Saharans should refrain from using oil or fertilizer, too. n/t |
Psephos |
Oct-15-09 09:06 PM |
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Sure Africa is ripe for experimentation. |
zeemike |
Oct-15-09 10:39 PM |
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News flash, everything is made of chemicals. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-15-09 10:57 PM |
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I was not trying to scare you. |
zeemike |
Oct-16-09 04:50 AM |
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AC, because they already have people who live there who can do that. People who would be |
bertman |
Oct-15-09 07:12 PM |
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I don't think they would mind a know it all australian like Norman Borlaug |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-15-09 07:19 PM |
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because cash crops for export on plantations have shoved out small farmers |
diane in sf |
Oct-15-09 07:57 PM |
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Colonial |
tama |
Oct-16-09 02:24 AM |
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Gates just likes things that have Patents and Copy Rights. |
bahrbearian |
Oct-15-09 06:56 PM |
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Wow, look at the hate in this thread. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-15-09 06:56 PM |
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The issue here is patenting of GMOs for sale. |
bemildred |
Oct-15-09 07:04 PM |
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And patents may not be an issue. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-15-09 07:09 PM |
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If you think patents are not the issue, you disagree with Monsanto. nt |
bemildred |
Oct-15-09 07:18 PM |
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Oh I do. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-15-09 07:23 PM |
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I'm not opposed to GMO as such, I'm opposed to patenting of genetic material. |
bemildred |
Oct-15-09 07:29 PM |
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That makes sense |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-15-09 07:33 PM |
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Thanks, glad we can agree, though not about Mr Gates. nt |
bemildred |
Oct-15-09 07:35 PM |
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Tell me what invention man has created that has improved the planet we all live on. |
bertman |
Oct-15-09 07:25 PM |
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Depends on your definition of 'improved'. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-15-09 07:29 PM |
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Flood and erosion control are benefits to humans. But, that aside, humans lived just |
bertman |
Oct-15-09 08:18 PM |
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Control |
tama |
Oct-16-09 02:55 AM |
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Do you take vaccines or antibiotics? nt |
WriteDown |
Oct-16-09 08:18 AM |
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Not lately, why? n/t |
tama |
Oct-16-09 08:22 AM |
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That would be interfering with nature. |
WriteDown |
Oct-16-09 08:24 AM |
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Strange |
tama |
Oct-16-09 08:54 AM |
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Another example.... |
WriteDown |
Oct-16-09 09:00 AM |
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Answer to example below |
tama |
Oct-16-09 09:55 AM |
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Is culture part of nature? |
WriteDown |
Oct-16-09 10:38 AM |
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Yup n/t |
tama |
Oct-16-09 10:47 AM |
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That's tough... |
WriteDown |
Oct-16-09 10:51 AM |
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Interesting take |
tama |
Oct-16-09 11:00 AM |
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Mutilating sensory organs is far from natural... |
WriteDown |
Oct-16-09 11:04 AM |
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I'd rather not |
tama |
Oct-16-09 11:28 AM |
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I suppose the debate is on the meaning of the word... |
WriteDown |
Oct-16-09 01:19 PM |
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Didn't intend to debate |
tama |
Oct-16-09 01:53 PM |
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I prefer discussions over single barrel jack daniels on ice . |
WriteDown |
Oct-16-09 02:05 PM |
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Damn you! |
tama |
Oct-16-09 02:18 PM |
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Technology is definitely a part of culture... |
Silent3 |
Oct-16-09 01:59 PM |
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Yep |
tama |
Oct-16-09 02:25 PM |
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If you consider humans *in exactly the same way*... |
Silent3 |
Oct-16-09 01:03 PM |
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I thought |
tama |
Oct-16-09 02:49 AM |
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AND they're often toxic and spread like prions n/t |
MisterP |
Oct-15-09 07:20 PM |
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Please cite one. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-15-09 07:22 PM |
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Here's one that is not "concluded safe" |
Trillo |
Oct-15-09 09:55 PM |
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Yeah,Your hatred puts you at the top of the list. |
nosmokes |
Oct-16-09 04:56 PM |
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this card carrying environmentalist seconds gates' opinion |
enki23 |
Oct-15-09 07:12 PM |
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What corporation you carrying that card for? |
nosmokes |
Oct-16-09 04:58 PM |
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Be prepared for flames. |
Codeine |
Oct-18-09 10:06 AM |
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Better to be cautious. What good would it do to given them food to live, only for them |
Honeycombe8 |
Oct-15-09 07:28 PM |
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It's not just food to eat. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-15-09 07:31 PM |
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Companion crop, please |
tama |
Oct-16-09 03:04 AM |
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Reasoned debate? Sources? Citations? Hasn't Europe banned GMO crops for safety reasons? |
Liberation Angel |
Oct-15-09 08:00 PM |
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Here's a good documentary: |
wickerwoman |
Oct-18-09 02:34 AM |
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Fuck you and your shitty software... |
santamargarita |
Oct-15-09 08:11 PM |
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Some people insist on a mutant vision of the future |
SpiralHawk |
Oct-15-09 08:29 PM |
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"...regard to how much hunger and poverty might be reduced by it." |
unkachuck |
Oct-15-09 08:39 PM |
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He already gave almost all his money to his foundation. |
Psephos |
Oct-15-09 09:18 PM |
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A foundation that he has control of. |
zeemike |
Oct-15-09 10:35 PM |
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You do make a good point about some foundations, but the B&MGF is a cut above. |
Psephos |
Oct-15-09 11:08 PM |
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PR and tax breaks. |
ipaint |
Oct-18-09 09:37 AM |
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Buffett promised most of his money to the Foundation. I am not sure he's actually given it yet. |
No Elephants |
Oct-16-09 09:25 AM |
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Do you doubt that he will? n/t |
Psephos |
Oct-16-09 08:22 PM |
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The ultimate corporatist pig! |
Vidar |
Oct-15-09 09:04 PM |
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Agreed. n/t |
OhioChick |
Oct-15-09 09:56 PM |
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The ultimate moron |
Mudoria |
Oct-16-09 08:14 AM |
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Does everyone know that Gates has an Iceland seed vault, so when he FUCKS the genetics of our food |
Gman2 |
Oct-15-09 09:06 PM |
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Most people know the consequences of GMO's |
bluesmail |
Oct-15-09 09:32 PM |
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They should have hung Gregor Mendel and burned his body. nt |
WriteDown |
Oct-16-09 08:21 AM |
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FAIL! Beautiful way to show *exactly* how ignorant you are on the subject. |
nosmokes |
Oct-17-09 05:55 PM |
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GM crops are to agriculture like Bill Gate's Vista is to computers - frightening! |
SandWalker1984 |
Oct-15-09 10:54 PM |
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Not just the patent monopoly and $$; there ARE real health issues |
lunasun |
Oct-15-09 11:25 PM |
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I got to admit |
DeadEyeDyck |
Oct-15-09 11:37 PM |
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No they weren't |
PaulaFarrell |
Oct-16-09 01:31 AM |
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Should we use genetic therapy on people then? |
WriteDown |
Oct-16-09 08:23 AM |
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That's |
tama |
Oct-16-09 08:58 AM |
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Is it? |
WriteDown |
Oct-16-09 09:19 AM |
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Yup, |
tama |
Oct-16-09 09:52 AM |
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No... |
WriteDown |
Oct-16-09 10:22 AM |
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Heh |
tama |
Oct-16-09 10:52 AM |
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Do you know how people breed? |
WriteDown |
Oct-16-09 10:57 AM |
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Again |
tama |
Oct-16-09 11:13 AM |
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Eugenics is INVOLENTARY. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-17-09 01:53 AM |
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Glad to hear they can stand up for themselves. |
earcandle |
Oct-15-09 11:40 PM |
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He probably thinks high fructose corn syrup is good bee food, too |
thecrow |
Oct-15-09 11:54 PM |
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uber capitalist weirdo |
fascisthunter |
Oct-16-09 12:01 PM |
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I'm really, really torn on this issue. |
bejamin wood |
Oct-16-09 12:44 PM |
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No |
tama |
Oct-16-09 01:37 PM |
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Gates is right. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-17-09 01:51 AM |
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How about when you take the choice from others? |
newspeak |
Oct-17-09 11:58 AM |
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Bill Gates is part of the One World Bilderberg Group |
Ter |
Oct-18-09 01:46 AM |
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