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185. No, it's not clear at all. We're pouring money down a rathole in a war we're going
to lose. Lose it next week, lose it next decade, we're going to lose. So let's get the hell out now.
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  -White House: Leaving Afghanistan not an option laststeamtrain  Oct-05-09 03:05 PM   #0 
  - *facepalm*  sakabatou   Oct-05-09 03:07 PM   #1 
  - why not get a declaration of war if its so justified?  spaten   Oct-05-09 03:13 PM   #2 
  - Nearly the entire Congress voted Bush the power to attack Al Qaeda  karynnj   Oct-05-09 05:10 PM   #38 
  - So are they fighting Al Qaeda still? No one claims they are still fighting Al Qaeda.  harun   Oct-07-09 09:36 AM   #226 
     - Well, You're Wrong  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-07-09 01:25 PM   #235 
  - We have one. Allegedly, this is part of the War on Terra.  No Elephants   Oct-06-09 08:46 AM   #149 
  - You can but he said it was a war of necessity so we're stuck.  timeforpeace   Oct-05-09 03:13 PM   #3 
  - How many GIs must die so that our President doesn't lose face?  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 03:19 PM   #6 
     - That and...  debunkthelies   Oct-05-09 04:10 PM   #25 
     - and Obama, to his credit, recently referenced it and said that he would not  karynnj   Oct-05-09 05:12 PM   #40 
     - But by putting the 'Peace Option' off the table  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 05:15 PM   #42 
     - About More Than Saving Face  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-05-09 05:59 PM   #54 
     - LEAVING is the least worst of two horrific options. It will be worse if we don't leave NOW.  ShortnFiery   Oct-05-09 10:45 PM   #95 
     - Curious...  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 05:12 PM   #186 
        - Combat Troops continuing to occupy a nation = increase in suicide bomb attacks  ShortnFiery   Oct-06-09 05:23 PM   #191 
           - ShortnFiery  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 05:33 PM   #195 
           - AMEN!  Shoush   Oct-08-09 01:57 PM   #247 
     - Staying already HAS  timtom   Oct-07-09 11:53 AM   #231 
        - As Does Leaving.  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-07-09 01:22 PM   #234 
     - It's not that simple.  Old Hob   Oct-05-09 07:00 PM   #69 
     - It will take overwhelming force to do the job right - we had 1/2 MILLION troops in  ShortnFiery   Oct-05-09 10:48 PM   #96 
     - McChrystal says 40,000 troops will suffice.  Old Hob   Oct-06-09 12:20 AM   #104 
     - Oh, ye of short memories  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 01:35 AM   #110 
     - live in the past much?  Old Hob   Oct-06-09 01:39 AM   #114 
     - Live in REALITY Much?  TheWatcher   Oct-06-09 01:46 AM   #120 
     - every miserable fucking day.  Old Hob   Oct-06-09 01:47 AM   #121 
     - The REALITY here is that they are repeating the mistakes of the past.  TheWatcher   Oct-06-09 01:48 AM   #122 
        - Here's some reality for ya: "White House: Leaving Afghanistan not an option"  Old Hob   Oct-06-09 01:54 AM   #126 
        - That's not reality. That's Propaganda.  TheWatcher   Oct-06-09 02:04 AM   #134 
        - As I said, this thread is about Afghnistan. You're way off topic  Old Hob   Oct-06-09 02:09 AM   #139 
        - And you're out of your fucking mind.  TheWatcher   Oct-06-09 02:11 AM   #141 
        - What's in between Iraq and Afghnistan?  flaminbats   Oct-06-09 12:19 PM   #180 
           - Iran  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 05:35 PM   #197 
              - Do you think a nuclear armed Pakistan more endangers the area?  newspeak   Oct-07-09 09:30 AM   #225 
                 - There is Corruption  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-07-09 01:28 PM   #236 
        - Out of Line  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 05:25 PM   #192 
        - So you support the war in Afghanistan? Have you ever voted Democratic? Just curious. nt  rhett o rick   Oct-08-09 10:20 PM   #248 
        - Sure, Let's Talk About Those "Mistakes of the Past"  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 05:23 PM   #190 
           - Bullshit! What's left is the Taliban, the natives. Who, DESPISE al Quaeda almost  ShortnFiery   Oct-06-09 05:28 PM   #193 
           - Bullshit, Yourself.  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 05:41 PM   #201 
           - p.s. 9/11 was caused by 19 men with BOX CUTTERS. I think we have that tactic countered.  ShortnFiery   Oct-06-09 05:30 PM   #194 
              - ,  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 05:42 PM   #202 
              - 9/11?  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 05:43 PM   #203 
     - It IS Living in the Past  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 05:20 PM   #189 
        - Hello? "Radical Islam" is the Natives who live in a SOVEREIGN State ...  ShortnFiery   Oct-06-09 05:37 PM   #199 
           - Actually...  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 05:46 PM   #204 
              - OK, I get it. There are many factions. However, they value THOSE factions not the Invaders.  ShortnFiery   Oct-06-09 06:27 PM   #213 
                 - Fair Enough, However...  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 06:39 PM   #216 
     - It's called learning from history as to not be ignorant of it.  drdtroit   Oct-06-09 09:56 PM   #218 
     - Oh, I see.  timtom   Oct-07-09 04:45 PM   #244 
     - Exactly the response I thought of  dflprincess   Oct-06-09 11:56 AM   #174 
     - Agreed.  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 05:17 PM   #188 
     - Yes, leave now. The horrific consequences could be the same as in  mbperrin   Oct-06-09 11:49 AM   #173 
     - Hysterics  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 05:15 PM   #187 
     - throwing 40,000 extra soldiers won't get that done  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 10:55 PM   #98 
     - The foremost expert authority on the matter disagrees with you  Old Hob   Oct-05-09 11:58 PM   #102 
        - Generals are "foremost expert authorities"  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 01:37 AM   #112 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-06-09 01:43 AM   #119 
        - I thought the foremost expert authorities  newspeak   Oct-06-09 10:53 AM   #165 
        - Please, all of Military History of the Region disagrees with you. eom  ShortnFiery   Oct-06-09 06:28 PM   #214 
     - Oh, ye of short memories  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 01:32 AM   #109 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-06-09 01:36 AM   #111 
        - Enjoy your stay here  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 01:38 AM   #113 
        - What, you want it leagalized but you don't want it in Europe or Russia?  Old Hob   Oct-06-09 01:41 AM   #117 
           - Re-read my post  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 01:58 AM   #131 
           - Ah, hell, never mind  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 02:04 AM   #133 
              - feel free to ignore me all you want. my feelings won't be hurt.  Old Hob   Oct-06-09 02:06 AM   #136 
                 - I don't feed trolls - bye, bye...(n/t)  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 02:09 AM   #138 
                 - You have to be able to actually think to have those.  TheWatcher   Oct-06-09 02:10 AM   #140 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-07-09 07:25 AM   #219 
     - It's amazing how many people forget  newspeak   Oct-06-09 10:46 AM   #162 
     - How many GI's must die for the Islamic republic we set up in Afghanistan?  grahamhgreen   Oct-06-09 10:03 AM   #157 
     - Afghanistan will never make sense if you don't understand that it's about the drugs.  lagavulin   Oct-06-09 11:49 AM   #172 
  - Options?  izquierdista   Oct-05-09 03:14 PM   #4 
  - We were told that Obama was considering all the options, not just the prowar options?  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 03:17 PM   #5 
  - The resource war must continue  shadowknows69   Oct-05-09 03:22 PM   #7 
  - DING! DING! DING! We have a winner! This is CONSISTENTLY ignored. Why? n/t  Subdivisions   Oct-06-09 12:29 AM   #106 
  - Because the American people and our Reps still have the "manifest destiny" disease  shadowknows69   Oct-06-09 08:29 AM   #146 
  - exactly. oil is behind this too.  bdamomma   Oct-07-09 10:07 AM   #228 
  - I am so sick of the phrase "Not an option"  Paranoid Pessimist   Oct-05-09 03:24 PM   #8 
  - Because reporters aren't reporters, anymore...  driver8   Oct-05-09 03:26 PM   #10 
  - voting for democrats in 2012 may not be an option either..  frylock   Oct-05-09 03:26 PM   #9 
  - I am starting to believe this more and more.  driver8   Oct-05-09 03:28 PM   #11 
  - Emma Goldman: If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 03:44 PM   #19 
     - Anarchism Not a Solution  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-05-09 06:06 PM   #58 
     - That's part of the problem  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 01:40 AM   #116 
        - If the Earth is plagued with too many Americans...  WriteDown   Oct-06-09 11:45 AM   #171 
     - Wise.  No Elephants   Oct-06-09 09:22 AM   #150 
  - this could be the dem option - grayson/kucinich 2012!  davidhilton   Oct-05-09 03:33 PM   #13 
  - Yes, and if it pans out that way, THIS TIME I will "throw away" my vote ...  ShortnFiery   Oct-05-09 03:38 PM   #16 
  - "I'd love to know what it feels like to vote for TRUE LIBERALS"  Toasterlad   Oct-05-09 04:54 PM   #35 
  - +1 Though I'm going to stop believing that voting for the right people is throwing your vote away.  shadowknows69   Oct-06-09 08:30 AM   #147 
  - Pretty ridiculous  karynnj   Oct-05-09 05:14 PM   #41 
  - Yep...  Iowa   Oct-05-09 04:10 PM   #24 
  - The problem is that voting for an independent candidate does not work...  slipslidingaway   Oct-05-09 04:29 PM   #31 
  - "the two party system is too strong"  Toasterlad   Oct-05-09 04:55 PM   #36 
  - No that is not what I meant, just stating the fact that a third party...  slipslidingaway   Oct-05-09 06:15 PM   #60 
     - The SCOTUS is not going to allow that, period.  No Elephants   Oct-06-09 09:56 AM   #155 
  - Two wings of the same bird of prey  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 05:10 PM   #39 
  - That would be nice :) n/t  slipslidingaway   Oct-05-09 06:16 PM   #62 
  - We tried that with Dean. The media spent days implying he was insane, bc of that  No Elephants   Oct-06-09 10:00 AM   #156 
     - What did Dean in was his comment about breaking up media monopolies  dflprincess   Oct-06-09 12:01 PM   #176 
  - Depends upon your definition of "work." Right now, a vote for a third party  No Elephants   Oct-06-09 09:54 AM   #154 
  - The Republicrats or the Demlicans? Your choice. I may write in some folks for the next few years.  No Elephants   Oct-06-09 09:29 AM   #151 
  - u know i voted for obama for 2 main reasons - because there are many...  davidhilton   Oct-05-09 03:29 PM   #12 
  - Obama was against single payer and for upping the war in Afghanistan consistently. nt  No Elephants   Oct-06-09 09:34 AM   #152 
  - YES. WE. CAN. Get out of BOTH Afghanistan and Iraq.... JUST DO IT! eom  ShortnFiery   Oct-05-09 03:36 PM   #14 
  - OK, but...  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-05-09 06:03 PM   #57 
     - That's the point. You don't win occupations without OVERWHELMING force.  ShortnFiery   Oct-05-09 10:53 PM   #97 
     - Be Honest  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 05:52 PM   #205 
     - If it weren't for OIL  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 01:42 AM   #118 
     - It can't be...  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 02:05 AM   #135 
  - "Handy Guide to why the Afghanistan War is really about the TAPI Gas Pipeline"  slipslidingaway   Oct-05-09 03:36 PM   #15 
  - So, we have more civilians than military in Afghanistan ... troops to protect GAS VENTURE  ShortnFiery   Oct-05-09 03:40 PM   #17 
  - Yes it is disgusting, but of course we know that "war is a racket" and...  slipslidingaway   Oct-05-09 04:13 PM   #26 
  - abso-lutely.  Soylent Brice   Oct-05-09 03:44 PM   #18 
     - Even this thread is being unrecommended :( n/t  slipslidingaway   Oct-05-09 04:31 PM   #32 
        - fuck'em. we can kick this up til the sun comes up.  Soylent Brice   Oct-05-09 05:06 PM   #37 
        - That's a badge of honour to progressives  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 05:17 PM   #44 
           - I try to see it that way. Speaking of shameless ...  laststeamtrain   Oct-05-09 08:04 PM   #79 
           - +1  No Elephants   Oct-06-09 09:41 AM   #153 
  - I know something else that's not an option  frog92969   Oct-05-09 03:50 PM   #20 
  - Obama has no shame nor appreciation for history. Barak, it is YOU who is  change_notfinetuning   Oct-05-09 03:55 PM   #21 
  - Unfortunately, Obama being Obama is exactly what we're seeing.  Iowa   Oct-05-09 04:15 PM   #27 
  - The LBJ story, part B.  Vidar   Oct-05-09 04:05 PM   #22 
  - with the same sad ending  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 05:19 PM   #46 
  - So what's 'part B'? All the war, but no Great Society? nt  Umbral   Oct-06-09 01:12 AM   #107 
  - another 'no public option' option  tomm2thumbs   Oct-05-09 04:08 PM   #23 
  - The 'no peace' option  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 04:18 PM   #28 
  - What they're saying is imperialism is here to stay . . .  defendandprotect   Oct-05-09 04:18 PM   #29 
  - Just who is influencing the mid east wars - PNAC????  SandWalker1984   Oct-05-09 04:24 PM   #30 
  - Coups don't just walk away  frog92969   Oct-05-09 05:33 PM   #47 
  - Just to let you know,  Le Taz Hot   Oct-06-09 10:10 AM   #158 
  - Watch, we'll get healthcare reform with no public option and war without end.  elocs   Oct-05-09 04:51 PM   #33 
  - pubic option?  IndianaGreen   Oct-05-09 05:18 PM   #45 
     - Spell check doesn't work on the subject line, but then again  elocs   Oct-05-09 05:42 PM   #49 
  - Voting Obama in 2012: Not An Option.  Toasterlad   Oct-05-09 04:52 PM   #34 
  - I'm still trying to give him a year before going down that road but it is becoming more difficult.  Purveyor   Oct-05-09 06:29 PM   #63 
  - President Romney will be pleased with you decision  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-06-09 12:13 PM   #177 
     - What's the Difference Between Obama and Romney?  Toasterlad   Oct-06-09 09:28 PM   #217 
        - 1. Abortion  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-07-09 08:26 AM   #221 
           - You're Right About #2  Toasterlad   Oct-07-09 08:49 AM   #223 
  - Wasn't an option for Russia or Britain either  PATRICK   Oct-05-09 05:16 PM   #43 
  - What is the objective in Afghanistan?  Politicub   Oct-05-09 05:37 PM   #48 
  - Nation Building, apparently  Hydra   Oct-05-09 06:02 PM   #56 
  - Probably so  Politicub   Oct-06-09 07:26 AM   #145 
  - To continue wealth transfer to contractors and the M-I-C. n/t  unhappycamper   Oct-06-09 04:33 AM   #144 
  - Trillions of dollars worth of hydrocarbons in Turkmenistan and surrounding areas.  ronnie624   Oct-06-09 10:51 AM   #164 
     - US business interests?  newspeak   Oct-07-09 08:58 AM   #224 
  - Chump Change  bvar22   Oct-05-09 05:44 PM   #50 
  - I agree whole heartedly.  Wizard777   Oct-05-09 05:48 PM   #51 
  - When do you deploy?  ShortnFiery   Oct-06-09 05:33 PM   #196 
  - He's just dragging his feet toward the invietable.  Jkid   Oct-05-09 05:56 PM   #52 
  - washington does not give a tiny bit of dog flop  timo   Oct-05-09 05:58 PM   #53 
  - why don't you tell us why American troops are really there  fascisthunter   Oct-05-09 06:01 PM   #55 
  - maybe  SWr   Oct-05-09 06:13 PM   #59 
  - I Hear Ya, SWr  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-05-09 06:16 PM   #61 
  - While you two are busy swatting fleas  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 01:49 AM   #123 
  - Whoa Whoa Whoa  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 06:09 PM   #211 
  - It's so rich hearing the Bogey man Al Quaeda  newspeak   Oct-07-09 11:32 AM   #229 
     - Your Timeline is Screwy  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-07-09 01:20 PM   #233 
        - your right, it wasn't called Al Quaeda then  newspeak   Oct-08-09 09:05 AM   #245 
           - i have to put something in this box  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-08-09 01:05 PM   #246 
  - nah... they need to kill them so we can get a pipeline  fascisthunter   Oct-05-09 06:29 PM   #64 
  - Could You Clarify?  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-05-09 06:34 PM   #65 
     - no no no  SWr   Oct-05-09 06:44 PM   #67 
     - then enlist. nt  Mari333   Oct-05-09 07:40 PM   #72 
     - Mari  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-05-09 07:48 PM   #74 
     - than you should have no problem enlisting or sending one of your kids  Mari333   Oct-05-09 08:03 PM   #76 
     - Mari  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-05-09 08:14 PM   #85 
        - and just maybe, it may be very difficult to complete that job  newspeak   Oct-07-09 01:29 PM   #237 
           - To Some Degree, I Agree  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-07-09 01:43 PM   #238 
     - Chickenhawk.  Quantess   Oct-05-09 10:26 PM   #92 
     - He's NOT a Chickenhawk.  TheWatcher   Oct-06-09 01:55 AM   #127 
        - ThePeeper  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 05:55 PM   #206 
     - Then they're fucking delusional idiots...  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 01:52 AM   #125 
     - typical answer  SWr   Oct-05-09 08:04 PM   #78 
        - sent sons to war  Mari333   Oct-05-09 08:07 PM   #81 
        - sorry  SWr   Oct-05-09 08:11 PM   #83 
        - Thank you for your service.  Quantess   Oct-05-09 10:29 PM   #93 
        - I'm very sorry you got conned  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 01:55 AM   #128 
     - LOL. Socks stink.  No Elephants   Oct-06-09 10:57 AM   #166 
     - here. read.  Mari333   Oct-05-09 07:40 PM   #71 
     - Conspiracy Theories  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-05-09 07:50 PM   #75 
        - Bush and Cheney thank you for your support. nt  Mari333   Oct-05-09 08:03 PM   #77 
        - OK  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-05-09 08:18 PM   #86 
        - and my personal favorite  SWr   Oct-05-09 08:06 PM   #80 
        - no, its exactly what Bush and Cheney said of course  Mari333   Oct-05-09 08:09 PM   #82 
           - FOX?  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-05-09 08:20 PM   #87 
        - Again, why aren't you or your adult children fighting in this war that you support?  Quantess   Oct-05-09 10:33 PM   #94 
        - Strange.  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 06:02 PM   #209 
        - Enjoy your VERY short stay...  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 01:57 AM   #129 
        - Who's the Real Troll...  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 06:05 PM   #210 
        - So there really were WMD's? Saddam was harboring Al Queda?  TheWatcher   Oct-06-09 01:58 AM   #130 
           - Don't Put Words in My Mouth  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 06:11 PM   #212 
     - if that's what you want to believe, believe  fascisthunter   Oct-05-09 08:59 PM   #89 
     - This Seems Like a Cop Out.  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-07-09 01:44 PM   #239 
     - Our current involvement in Afghanistan can be traced back thirty years,  ronnie624   Oct-06-09 11:40 AM   #170 
  - The Taliban are the NATIVES and AQ is GLOBAL. If you want to foment LESS hate, the  ShortnFiery   Oct-05-09 10:55 PM   #99 
     - That's Irrational  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-07-09 01:46 PM   #240 
  - While you and YouTakeTheSkyway are busy swatting fleas...  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 01:51 AM   #124 
  - wait... me?  fascisthunter   Oct-06-09 10:30 AM   #160 
  - No, I meant to respond to swr or whatever that other troll's name is...  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 12:22 PM   #182 
  - Pilgrims? Founding Fathers?  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-07-09 01:50 PM   #242 
  - Because Afghanistan was good to Bin Ladin. Then again, so were Reagan, Bush,  No Elephants   Oct-06-09 10:12 AM   #159 
  - He has explained why American troops are really there:  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-06-09 12:15 PM   #179 
     - No, the TALIBAN are all that's left in Afghanistan. Mission Accomplished. eom  ShortnFiery   Oct-06-09 05:40 PM   #200 
        - He is attempting to wipe out the Taliban  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-07-09 08:22 AM   #220 
        - How do you figure?  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-07-09 01:51 PM   #243 
  - AP: WH says Obama won't pull US out of Afghanistan  laststeamtrain   Oct-05-09 06:40 PM   #66 
  - Has there ever been a president more focussed on self-destruction?  Doctor_J   Oct-05-09 06:50 PM   #68 
  - idiots. it will destroy them, and destroy whats left of this country.  Mari333   Oct-05-09 07:36 PM   #70 
  - Ask LBJ...  Bigmack   Oct-05-09 07:42 PM   #73 
  - There WILL be antiwar demonstrations  Mari333   Oct-05-09 08:11 PM   #84 
  - Obama is a warmonger?  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-05-09 08:21 PM   #88 
  - He's following LOCK STEP in the footsteps of LBJ. There's no reason to keep occupying these  ShortnFiery   Oct-05-09 11:00 PM   #100 
  - Is This a Joke?  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 05:57 PM   #207 
  - Don't feed the trolls (n/t)  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 02:07 AM   #137 
     - What the Heck  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-06-09 05:57 PM   #208 
  - My guess is that there would have to be a Draft...  Adsos Letter   Oct-05-09 09:47 PM   #90 
  - I agree. But I also question if even 60's style anti-war demonstrations would do it this time.  No Elephants   Oct-06-09 11:08 AM   #167 
  - Ya know....  Bigmack   Oct-05-09 09:57 PM   #91 
  - Lest we forget....  No Elephants   Oct-06-09 10:49 AM   #163 
     - S'wat I'm sayin'...  Bigmack   Oct-06-09 06:32 PM   #215 
  - Obama is going to find it hard to pay money in Afghanistan  lovuian   Oct-05-09 11:54 PM   #101 
  - I fear not. Please recall the motto of one very powerful defense contractor:  ShortnFiery   Oct-06-09 12:05 AM   #103 
  - Unfortunately, I haven't heard him insisting that his war be "deficit neutral"  dflprincess   Oct-06-09 11:58 AM   #175 
  - Gates' reasoning on the Amanpour special was ...because the Russians were defeated,  JCMach1   Oct-06-09 12:25 AM   #105 
  - What did we (or Obama) expect when Obama appointed Gates Secretary of Defense?  No Elephants   Oct-06-09 11:15 AM   #168 
     - I agree with you, but then there's Rahm  JCMach1   Oct-06-09 01:59 PM   #184 
  - Wow, I'm really happy about that fucking "Change"!!!  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 01:29 AM   #108 
  - BBC now admits Al Qaeda * NEVER * existed. Get out of Afghanistan!  Bushknew   Oct-06-09 01:39 AM   #115 
  - Many Americans would rather fight and die for a lie than face ANY difficult Truth.  TheWatcher   Oct-06-09 02:00 AM   #132 
     - No kidding...  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 02:13 AM   #142 
     - it is a sad but Prevalent symptom that has become this country.  TheWatcher   Oct-06-09 02:22 AM   #143 
        - I remember almost losing my older brother in Vietnam. He was badly wounded  ShortnFiery   Oct-06-09 08:36 AM   #148 
     - holy crap is that line devastingly true  fascisthunter   Oct-06-09 10:32 AM   #161 
  - FAIL! nt  and-justice-for-all   Oct-06-09 11:27 AM   #169 
  - "I don't think we have the option to leave."  FlyByNight   Oct-06-09 12:14 PM   #178 
  - That line was repeated ad nausea during the Vietnam Conflict. Guess what? Yes.  ShortnFiery   Oct-06-09 05:36 PM   #198 
  - Celebrating Slaughter: How War Memorials Help Us Forget the Horrors of Violence  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 12:20 PM   #181 
  - Greenwald Film on Afghanistan Destroys the Logic of the War, Leading the New York Times to Whine  ProudDad   Oct-06-09 12:40 PM   #183 
  - No, it's not clear at all. We're pouring money down a rathole in a war we're going  gkhouston   Oct-06-09 02:15 PM   #185 
  - If 8 years wasn't enough, another 8 won't help.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Oct-07-09 08:47 AM   #222 
  - oh crap more people dying.  bdamomma   Oct-07-09 09:56 AM   #227 
  - Kick. How come EVERY candidate in 2008 promised MORE WAR????  Romulox   Oct-07-09 11:37 AM   #230 
  - Apparently the Taliban are ok with this too. Endless target practice  The_Casual_Observer   Oct-07-09 12:54 PM   #232 
  - The Taliban are part to the native peoples. It's THEIR country, not ours. eom  ShortnFiery   Oct-07-09 01:47 PM   #241 
  - Let's face it  newspeak   Oct-09-09 11:02 AM   #249 
 

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