| -Sotomayor Issues Challenge to a Century of Corporate Law |
derby378 |
Sep-17-09 04:21 PM |
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YES!!! K&R. |
alsame |
Sep-17-09 04:23 PM |
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Sep-18-09 12:43 AM |
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Sep-18-09 02:45 AM |
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corporate wing of the freeper trolls can't handle reasoned argument... |
BREMPRO |
Sep-18-09 12:52 PM |
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LOL, I never even got to see the replies before the TS. Funny how |
alsame |
Sep-18-09 02:44 PM |
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Right on judge! |
county worker |
Sep-17-09 04:23 PM |
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I'm Not Sure if This is True |
liberalmike27 |
Sep-18-09 11:36 AM |
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You are correct |
ProudDad |
Sep-18-09 11:53 AM |
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This is great |
cosmicone |
Sep-17-09 04:24 PM |
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Thanks for the case cite. I don't think the SCOTUS did that in the Union Pacific case. |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 11:48 AM |
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Don't get too excited |
lark |
Sep-18-09 12:39 PM |
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The seeds for revolutions in American thought are often planted in |
JDPriestly |
Sep-18-09 02:34 PM |
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At last we have some intelligent in the Supreme Court |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Sep-18-09 04:58 PM |
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Good for her. |
drm604 |
Sep-17-09 04:24 PM |
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Sep-18-09 02:25 AM |
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That's encouraging! |
FiveGoodMen |
Sep-17-09 04:25 PM |
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Lets Pray For Her To Have The Utmost Skill In Her Powers Of PERSUASION! |
DaLittle Kitty |
Sep-17-09 11:33 PM |
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Kitty.... |
rucognizant |
Sep-18-09 06:03 AM |
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She needs to persuade Ginsburg, Breyer, both of whom were also appointed by |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 07:18 AM |
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Kennedy - blech |
lark |
Sep-18-09 12:53 PM |
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Scalia, in particular, is in a very tough place. |
JDPriestly |
Sep-18-09 02:56 PM |
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You're probably right. |
FiveGoodMen |
Sep-18-09 12:18 PM |
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WOW--right out of the gate! |
KatyaR |
Sep-17-09 04:25 PM |
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Indeed and a very strong start. nt |
wroberts189 |
Sep-17-09 06:36 PM |
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Perhaps this statement lays the foundation for a challenge... |
KansDem |
Sep-17-09 04:25 PM |
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I bet Justice Ginsburg is sooo happy. She really wanted another woman on the court and |
Pirate Smile |
Sep-17-09 04:36 PM |
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That's pretty much in keeping with Chief Justice Marshall's take |
derby378 |
Sep-17-09 04:48 PM |
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What would he know about original intent, though? |
NewJeffCT |
Sep-17-09 06:40 PM |
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According to Republicans Chief Justice Marshall either knew squat about oiriginal intent |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 12:43 PM |
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Ah ha, nicely played Justice Ginsburg. |
sybylla |
Sep-17-09 05:25 PM |
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MORE Appropriately... A person Being Equal To A CORPORATION? That Is The POINT! |
DaLittle Kitty |
Sep-18-09 02:18 PM |
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THINK Again About WHY The Legal Structure of A Corporation Came About? To Protect The "persons" Who |
DaLittle Kitty |
Sep-18-09 02:23 PM |
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Excellent point. |
JDPriestly |
Sep-18-09 03:26 PM |
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+1 n/t |
truedelphi |
Sep-20-09 02:47 PM |
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Wow! That is TRUE! A corporation is NOT endowed by its creator with inalienable rights. |
sicksicksick_N_tired |
Sep-17-09 06:24 PM |
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There is no such thing as an "inalienable right." Just ask the Jews whom |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 08:14 AM |
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Infringing on those inalienable rights... |
AntiFascist |
Sep-18-09 05:04 PM |
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That statement may be debatable... |
moonbatmax |
Sep-17-09 06:39 PM |
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Let us put it simply: corporations DID NOT EXIST when our country was founded. |
sicksicksick_N_tired |
Sep-17-09 07:01 PM |
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At the time of our country's founding |
customerserviceguy |
Sep-17-09 07:37 PM |
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It will make a difference, no matter how the case turns out. She has created an opening to start |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 08:23 AM |
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Joint stock companies were corporations or enough like them. They |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 08:31 AM |
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Actually the Joint Stock Companies all failed |
happyslug |
Sep-18-09 10:46 AM |
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I never said they were financially successful, though, only that they existed. |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 11:12 AM |
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Joint stock companies were government run companies... what do you mean? |
Localist |
Sep-19-09 04:08 PM |
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Quite simply, yes, they did. |
Beer on a stick |
Sep-17-09 09:07 PM |
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See #155. |
tabatha |
Sep-17-09 09:45 PM |
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great link to the history of corporate "personhood"- a clerical mistake...exploited |
BREMPRO |
Sep-17-09 10:00 PM |
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From which source are you quoting? |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 08:35 AM |
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this one: |
BREMPRO |
Sep-18-09 09:39 AM |
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Thank you. |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 12:46 PM |
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careful there |
ArcticFox |
Sep-18-09 12:02 AM |
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They have, indeed. However... |
susanna |
Sep-18-09 12:39 AM |
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Please see Reply 295. |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 12:49 PM |
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corporations did exist at the founding |
provis99 |
Sep-18-09 08:30 AM |
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Hudson's Bay was a corporation. British East India was a joint stock company. |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 01:01 PM |
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"I'll take Hudson's Bay Company for 200, Alex." |
cliffordu |
Sep-18-09 12:29 PM |
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you have got to be kidding? |
Pharaoh |
Sep-17-09 07:55 PM |
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The Founders feared capital . . . probably as much as they feared CHURCH . . . |
defendandprotect |
Sep-17-09 08:17 PM |
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I wish that were so, but I don't think it was. |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 08:08 AM |
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Thomas Jefferson count as one of the founders? |
mbperrin |
Sep-18-09 12:00 PM |
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That does not contradict what I said though. |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 12:33 PM |
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Are you arguing that capital and corporations are the same thing? |
mbperrin |
Sep-18-09 01:21 PM |
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Believe he was commenting on the ability to use ... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-18-09 01:34 PM |
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Thank you -- there's a lot of other stuff on it -- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-18-09 01:31 PM |
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Yes, founders feared the power of capital . . . |
defendandprotect |
Sep-18-09 01:29 PM |
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Therein lies the rub: the DOI is NOT a governing legal document. |
Beer on a stick |
Sep-17-09 09:05 PM |
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True, but |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 12:15 PM |
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I thought the essence of free market capitalisim |
tabatha |
Sep-17-09 09:44 PM |
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And we have a winner. n/t |
susanna |
Sep-18-09 12:41 AM |
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No one does. Please see Reply 254. |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 01:04 PM |
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True . . . there is the precedent of prior laws government corporations ... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-18-09 01:36 PM |
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IANAL indeed. |
susanna |
Sep-18-09 12:32 AM |
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creator = God |
Autonomy |
Sep-18-09 01:34 AM |
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"Creator" not = "god" |
ProudDad |
Sep-18-09 12:00 PM |
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Creator definitely = God |
Autonomy |
Sep-18-09 04:15 PM |
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Even if using a deistic or nontheistic framework, I would tend to agree |
derby378 |
Sep-18-09 04:56 PM |
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Even deists of the Enlightenment era |
Autonomy |
Sep-18-09 05:20 PM |
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Not true |
ProudDad |
Sep-18-09 06:54 PM |
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Religion and myths were not part of the discussion |
Autonomy |
Sep-18-09 09:39 PM |
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I'm talking about reality |
ProudDad |
Sep-18-09 06:53 PM |
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The reality the enlightenment thinkers posited |
Autonomy |
Sep-18-09 09:41 PM |
#378 |
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But that's the basic fallacy |
ProudDad |
Sep-19-09 12:36 PM |
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It would be better... |
Autonomy |
Sep-19-09 01:49 PM |
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Duplicate |
ProudDad |
Sep-18-09 12:00 PM |
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Um, bullshit. Given the lack of evidence for any gods, our rights ONLY come from us! |
Zhade |
Sep-18-09 02:33 PM |
#357 |
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Inalienable rights are not granted. |
eomer |
Sep-18-09 01:42 AM |
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That was not the point of Ginsburg's quoting the DOI. Also, please see Reply 295. |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 01:12 PM |
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Please note which post I was replying to - #92. |
eomer |
Sep-18-09 01:59 PM |
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But 'said creator' is only a human being, |
Enthusiast |
Sep-18-09 03:52 AM |
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aw, now you're going to hurt the RWers' feelings ... |
zbdent |
Sep-18-09 05:05 AM |
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Good nt |
Enthusiast |
Sep-18-09 06:13 AM |
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Her point is, the Constitution was never intended to give rights to anyone but |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 07:54 AM |
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Now, the court has to define the term "creator" |
Canuckistanian |
Sep-17-09 09:09 PM |
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No, the Court does not need to define Creator. Ginsburg alluded to the DOI |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 01:20 PM |
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Neither was God or Jesus. |
LiberalFighter |
Sep-17-09 10:10 PM |
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Right on. This is not A case. This is THE case..nothing more important happening in this country.. |
robinlynne |
Sep-17-09 04:26 PM |
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I'm glad to hear this, but unless Kennedy goes for it, it won't be enough |
CreekDog |
Sep-17-09 04:57 PM |
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Rumored Kennedy went with W decision in hopes of getting Chief Justice position . . . |
defendandprotect |
Sep-17-09 08:24 PM |
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Maybe a wise Latina can work on him whatever magic O'Connor must have |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 01:23 PM |
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Exactly! Just about everything that's wrong in the country........ |
frebrd |
Sep-17-09 05:04 PM |
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Maybe enough of the country understands that now? Campaign finance BRIBERY . . ????? |
defendandprotect |
Sep-17-09 08:25 PM |
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Seems ridiculous that the press has convinced us, that Roe vs Wade shoudl be the litmus test |
WatchWhatISay |
Sep-17-09 05:25 PM |
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So true -- and . . . |
defendandprotect |
Sep-17-09 08:26 PM |
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I agree! Will they even wait for the decision before turning |
bluesmail |
Sep-17-09 06:30 PM |
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Absolutely. This is THE case of this century. Yet, so few "news" outlets have even mentioned it. |
MrsCorleone |
Sep-17-09 06:59 PM |
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You are absolutely correct, madam! n/t |
RoccoR5955 |
Sep-17-09 08:22 PM |
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Supreme Court should be televised . . they wouldn't get away with the right wing crap if they were . |
defendandprotect |
Sep-17-09 08:22 PM |
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One would think in this day and age the Supreme Court would most surely be televised. |
avaistheone1 |
Sep-18-09 12:23 AM |
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Agree -- but they've been fighting it for years now -- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-18-09 12:29 AM |
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Bull puckey. The Justices would never notice small, well place stationary cameras. |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 01:29 PM |
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Agree -- C-span continues to push on this ... offer them some encouragement . . . |
defendandprotect |
Sep-18-09 01:38 PM |
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Awesome |
wtbymark |
Sep-17-09 04:28 PM |
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No we need 4 more just like her |
Vincardog |
Sep-17-09 04:59 PM |
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Yes . . . |
defendandprotect |
Sep-17-09 08:26 PM |
#133 |
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Good for her. But I wish I could be optomistic. The decision will still be 5-4 on the wrong side. |
Orangepeel |
Sep-17-09 04:32 PM |
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How can a "Corporation" have knowledge? |
mascarax |
Sep-17-09 05:14 PM |
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Why not? |
Igel |
Sep-17-09 09:55 PM |
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Corporations fulfill a greater purpose, they employ masses, but |
earcandle |
Sep-17-09 11:59 PM |
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"A corporation is a legal entity separate from the persons |
Zorra |
Sep-19-09 05:35 PM |
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don't know |
dana_b |
Sep-18-09 12:05 PM |
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so true, in fact if a corporation "thinks" something, it is in fact a person thinking it. and I be |
robinlynne |
Sep-18-09 02:21 PM |
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Justice Kennedy, it is not the corporations that have the knowledge, |
JDPriestly |
Sep-17-09 05:29 PM |
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Exactly.Put the articles of incorporation, and the stock certificates on the witness stand. |
Ikonoklast |
Sep-17-09 10:20 PM |
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Brilliant! |
earcandle |
Sep-17-09 11:25 PM |
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self-delete; missing a definition |
susanna |
Sep-18-09 12:46 AM |
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Justice Kennedy. |
aquart |
Sep-18-09 11:55 AM |
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"seem to view corporate political spending as beneficial to the democratic process" |
BelgianMadCow |
Sep-18-09 04:19 AM |
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A wise Latina, indeed! |
damntexdem |
Sep-17-09 04:43 PM |
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Solomon, eat your heart out!! |
meow2u3 |
Sep-18-09 03:21 PM |
#364 |
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YES! |
indimuse |
Sep-17-09 04:45 PM |
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Yes! It 's about time. |
jemelanson |
Sep-17-09 04:45 PM |
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I'm waiting for the Obama haters to apologize for the things they said about Sotomayor. |
Zynx |
Sep-17-09 04:48 PM |
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+1 |
suzie |
Sep-17-09 05:38 PM |
#61 |
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The Obama haters will hate him at their own expense |
AllyCat |
Sep-17-09 09:24 PM |
#148 |
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HOLY SHIT! |
martymar64 |
Sep-17-09 04:48 PM |
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The corporate personhood part wasn't actually in the decision, |
tclambert |
Sep-18-09 06:12 AM |
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Just recognize that the fiction of corporate personhood |
ProudDad |
Sep-18-09 12:09 PM |
#303 |
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Exactly! |
martymar64 |
Sep-18-09 04:52 PM |
#368 |
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"Corporate capitalist" is a contradiction of terms |
Localist |
Sep-18-09 10:52 PM |
#383 |
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If anything, "corporate capitalism" is a redundency... |
ProudDad |
Sep-19-09 12:40 PM |
#385 |
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If only you knew how much this strategically twisted definition of capitalism limits your mind... |
Localist |
Sep-19-09 02:55 PM |
#388 |
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We would need one of Kennedy, Scalia, Roberts, Thomas or Alito |
NewJeffCT |
Sep-18-09 12:59 PM |
#328 |
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Step down or die. |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 01:55 PM |
#348 |
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planting the seed |
martymar64 |
Sep-18-09 05:25 PM |
#373 |
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Even that might be tough |
NewJeffCT |
Sep-18-09 10:05 PM |
#381 |
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w00t! nice to hear some good news |
ixion |
Sep-17-09 04:49 PM |
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nice indeed................very satisfying |
destes |
Sep-17-09 07:10 PM |
#101 |
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Yes! nt |
bemildred |
Sep-17-09 04:50 PM |
#18 |
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One big recommendation |
Auggie |
Sep-17-09 04:52 PM |
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big grin |
proud patriot |
Sep-17-09 04:52 PM |
#20 |
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be still my heart! |
UpInArms |
Sep-17-09 04:52 PM |
#21 |
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Overturn the 19th century judicial activists! Corporations are NOT people! n/t |
denverbill |
Sep-17-09 04:53 PM |
#22 |
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+1 |
wroberts189 |
Sep-17-09 06:38 PM |
#91 |
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It was not the SCOTUS Justices! |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 02:05 PM |
#351 |
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thanks for standing up to those activist judges, justice sotomayor |
noiretextatique |
Sep-17-09 04:54 PM |
#23 |
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kr |
eleny |
Sep-17-09 04:57 PM |
#24 |
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Thom Hartmann will be all over this. Way to go, Justice Sotomayor!!! nt |
thereismore |
Sep-17-09 04:58 PM |
#26 |
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This is one of Thom's major focuses. Thom's shows regarding the insanity of corporate personhood |
avaistheone1 |
Sep-18-09 12:18 AM |
#202 |
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This is good news indeed. |
bvar22 |
Sep-17-09 04:59 PM |
#28 |
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You go, Wise Latina. Letum go after Acorn, We'll beat ass. |
Gman2 |
Sep-17-09 05:03 PM |
#29 |
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For those who are new to the discussion... |
derby378 |
Sep-17-09 05:07 PM |
#31 |
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I totally missed this release. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Sep-17-09 06:11 PM |
#74 |
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The Google translator translation is humorous |
TommyO |
Sep-18-09 06:39 AM |
#239 |
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Nice sig line derby! The photos are great, but that quote is great |
AllyCat |
Sep-17-09 09:27 PM |
#149 |
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Where they burn books, so too will they in the end burn human beings. |
tabatha |
Sep-17-09 09:49 PM |
#158 |
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Then I translated it correctly. Thanks for that! |
AllyCat |
Sep-17-09 11:09 PM |
#184 |
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RIGHT ON!!!! |
Julius Civitatus |
Sep-17-09 05:08 PM |
#32 |
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Nice work, Justice Sotomayor. Recommend. nt |
bertman |
Sep-17-09 05:09 PM |
#33 |
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Wow! |
Grinchie |
Sep-17-09 05:10 PM |
#34 |
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Big K and R here. |
tnlurker |
Sep-17-09 05:10 PM |
#35 |
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If those corporations want personhood, I want to see their birth certificates |
Rozlee |
Sep-17-09 05:11 PM |
#36 |
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Exactly! And none of this "born in Hawaii" nonsense either! |
mascarax |
Sep-17-09 05:15 PM |
# |
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Oh yeah. |
DeSwiss |
Sep-17-09 07:58 PM |
#122 |
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And if they are persons, then shouldn't they die a natural death |
CAcyclist |
Sep-18-09 12:21 PM |
#310 |
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AWE. SOME. |
Soylent Brice |
Sep-17-09 05:13 PM |
#37 |
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A Daniel come to judgement |
pscot |
Sep-17-09 05:14 PM |
#39 |
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Pro-abortion too |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Sep-17-09 05:14 PM |
#40 |
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"Pro-Abortion"? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-18-09 09:45 PM |
#379 |
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She certainly |
Libertas1776 |
Sep-17-09 05:15 PM |
#41 |
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Right pick indeed |
peace frog |
Sep-18-09 05:22 AM |
#231 |
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We'll need more than that. |
ProudDad |
Sep-18-09 12:15 PM |
#305 |
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Scalia, Thomas and Kennedy won't be 'gone' anytime soon |
peace frog |
Sep-18-09 01:38 PM |
#345 |
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EXCELLENT! Now THAT is JUSTICE. |
Triana |
Sep-17-09 05:15 PM |
#42 |
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I love her style. Lets start at the beginning. Constructionism like construction. |
Wizard777 |
Sep-17-09 05:15 PM |
#43 |
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This is extremely important in our fight to stop the march toward Fascism in America! |
dhpgetsit |
Sep-17-09 05:20 PM |
#44 |
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Y E S ! You know, we may need popcorn for this new Court! |
Hekate |
Sep-17-09 05:20 PM |
#45 |
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Allow me |
derby378 |
Sep-18-09 08:23 AM |
#258 |
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Wow! A thinking individual for a change. |
JDPriestly |
Sep-17-09 05:22 PM |
#46 |
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Oh, yes. Thank you Madam Justice! |
sybylla |
Sep-17-09 05:22 PM |
#47 |
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I'm smiling |
kleec |
Sep-17-09 05:23 PM |
#48 |
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She Rocks! |
NikolaC |
Sep-17-09 05:30 PM |
#52 |
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Kicked and recommended for Sotomayor's extreme wisdom. |
Uncle Joe |
Sep-17-09 05:30 PM |
#53 |
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Corporations aren't capable of thought or knowledge, |
Ruby the Liberal |
Sep-17-09 05:55 PM |
#64 |
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If corporations have the same rights as individuals under the Constitution, |
Ikonoklast |
Sep-17-09 06:01 PM |
#67 |
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Bingo. And they are not held accountable for their actions, |
Ruby the Liberal |
Sep-17-09 06:06 PM |
#70 |
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And corporations can live forever |
Doctor_J |
Sep-17-09 06:34 PM |
#88 |
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Interesting point . . . |
defendandprotect |
Sep-17-09 08:29 PM |
#134 |
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Definitely not natural reproduction |
Occulus |
Sep-18-09 02:19 AM |
#220 |
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K&R! Thank you Justice Sotomayor!... nt |
Blasphemer |
Sep-17-09 05:31 PM |
#54 |
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I'm glad I supported Obama! n/t |
Dr Fate |
Sep-17-09 05:31 PM |
#55 |
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I ought to be able to recommend this 100 times |
cmd |
Sep-17-09 05:34 PM |
#56 |
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My favorite news of the week. |
Bluenorthwest |
Sep-17-09 05:35 PM |
#57 |
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OMG...She "gets it" |
Swede Atlanta |
Sep-17-09 05:37 PM |
#58 |
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What is the purpose of allowing any entity to participate in an election they cannot vote in? |
Wizard777 |
Sep-17-09 05:37 PM |
#59 |
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Take your logic to its conclusion. |
Igel |
Sep-17-09 10:02 PM |
#165 |
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Because that's what they do |
Autonomy |
Sep-18-09 02:03 AM |
#217 |
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That certainly is food for thought. |
Wizard777 |
Sep-18-09 09:52 AM |
#277 |
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They should NOT be allowed to influence elections with their money |
ProudDad |
Sep-18-09 12:19 PM |
#309 |
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Best news all day. |
dbonds |
Sep-17-09 05:37 PM |
#60 |
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It's about time Santa Clara was re-visited, and the clerk's notes shown not to be part of the ruling |
Ikonoklast |
Sep-17-09 05:45 PM |
#62 |
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Exactly. Corporate personhood was the invention of some presumptuous legal clerk. |
Jackpine Radical |
Sep-17-09 06:08 PM |
#72 |
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And, we have had laws throughout history which counter that "invention" . . . |
defendandprotect |
Sep-17-09 08:34 PM |
#136 |
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J.C. Bancroft Davis |
Occulus |
Sep-18-09 02:09 AM |
#218 |
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OMG |
wryter2000 |
Sep-17-09 05:52 PM |
#63 |
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I hope she is a very very persuasive person. nt |
anonymous171 |
Sep-17-09 05:55 PM |
#65 |
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Well well, my first surprize. Sotomayer understands that |
Piewhacket |
Sep-17-09 05:59 PM |
#66 |
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Big K & R!!!!!! You go girl! nt |
The Hope Mobile |
Sep-17-09 06:03 PM |
#68 |
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fuck yeah (nt) |
harmonicon |
Sep-17-09 06:05 PM |
#69 |
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Outstanding! |
Greyskye |
Sep-17-09 06:07 PM |
#71 |
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I hope she reads them the 14th Amendment |
nuxvomica |
Sep-17-09 06:10 PM |
#73 |
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Neither "born" nor "naturalized" . . . !! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-18-09 01:40 PM |
#346 |
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At last, a voice of reason on the court ! n/t |
Mr. Sparkle |
Sep-17-09 06:16 PM |
#75 |
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Glad to read this news. |
firehorse |
Sep-17-09 06:19 PM |
#76 |
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OMFG-- just hearing those thoughts entertained by a SC justice... |
mike_c |
Sep-17-09 06:20 PM |
#77 |
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Oh, yeah, Justice Sonia! |
Hepburn |
Sep-17-09 06:22 PM |
#78 |
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Thanks for posting this. K&R! |
Xicano |
Sep-17-09 06:25 PM |
#80 |
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Judge Sotomayor ,Thank You |
orpupilofnature57 |
Sep-17-09 06:25 PM |
#81 |
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Just that it came out of her mouth heartens me. YES! |
aquart |
Sep-17-09 06:26 PM |
#82 |
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K&R |
Solly Mack |
Sep-17-09 06:27 PM |
#83 |
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I like her more and more....... |
marmar |
Sep-17-09 06:32 PM |
#85 |
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Whoa. Many on our side were saying she's a corporatist |
Doctor_J |
Sep-17-09 06:33 PM |
#86 |
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Oh some good news for a change ..way to go on the pick Obama ..way to go. KNR nt |
wroberts189 |
Sep-17-09 06:33 PM |
#87 |
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HELL YES!!! K&R!!!!!!! |
DeSwiss |
Sep-17-09 06:35 PM |
#89 |
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I want to have her baby |
jgraz |
Sep-17-09 06:44 PM |
#94 |
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Damn I want to marry that woman! |
XanaDUer |
Sep-17-09 06:55 PM |
#95 |
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Hell Fuck Yes! |
arcane1 |
Sep-17-09 06:56 PM |
#96 |
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Good for Her! |
laughingliberal |
Sep-17-09 07:03 PM |
#99 |
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Has it occurred to anyone how disruptive it would be to our economic system . . . . |
BrainGlutton |
Sep-17-09 07:07 PM |
#100 |
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As legal persons... |
jeff30997 |
Sep-17-09 07:14 PM |
#102 |
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So we just allow an oligarchy to continue to corrupt our government |
Xicano |
Sep-17-09 07:20 PM |
#105 |
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I'm reading the above as the "corporate personhood is too big to fail" |
JerseygirlCT |
Sep-17-09 07:42 PM |
#114 |
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Exactly! That's right on the nail head JerseygirlCT. +1 |
Xicano |
Sep-17-09 08:18 PM |
#125 |
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Two phrases. |
Igel |
Sep-17-09 10:09 PM |
#168 |
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Dred Scott. Plessy vs. Ferguson... |
JerseygirlCT |
Sep-18-09 09:37 PM |
#376 |
| -
Our economic system? What about our political system? |
Mithreal |
Sep-17-09 08:44 PM |
#139 |
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Our "economic system" sucks. It NEEDS to be disrupted. |
scarletwoman |
Sep-17-09 09:05 PM |
#143 |
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Don't cry for corporations |
IndianaGreen |
Sep-17-09 09:52 PM |
#159 |
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Corporations are disruptive to our economic system |
tabatha |
Sep-17-09 09:55 PM |
#162 |
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Musolini agreed with you. CorpAmerica uber alles. nt |
rhett o rick |
Sep-17-09 11:12 PM |
#185 |
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Can't there be limits? |
rucky |
Sep-18-09 08:06 AM |
#252 |
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It's the right thing to do. |
redqueen |
Sep-18-09 09:23 AM |
#270 |
| -
to whose economic system... what good is it |
fascisthunter |
Sep-18-09 09:40 AM |
#275 |
| -
In what way, exactly? |
ProudDad |
Sep-18-09 12:29 PM |
#312 |
| -
Why would it be disruptive? |
robinlynne |
Sep-18-09 02:22 PM |
#354 |
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Ending slavery was extremely disruptive to the agrarian economy of the south. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-18-09 09:49 PM |
#380 |
| -
Woohoo! Sounds like she's hitting the ground runnning! |
Turborama |
Sep-17-09 07:15 PM |
#103 |
| -
k and r |
femrap |
Sep-17-09 07:17 PM |
#104 |
| -
No sh.... Well, I'll be.... |
sofa king |
Sep-17-09 07:22 PM |
#106 |
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WOOT! WOOT! WOOT! - Holy cow, dare we hope?"?? |
kestrel91316 |
Sep-17-09 07:28 PM |
#107 |
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K&R especially if this leads to positive change. |
Mithreal |
Sep-17-09 07:29 PM |
#108 |
| -
Just thought I'd post this short youtube clip. |
Xicano |
Sep-17-09 07:32 PM |
#109 |
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Go Soto Go. |
SpiralHawk |
Sep-17-09 07:37 PM |
#110 |
| -
Jaw-dropping good news! |
Bozita |
Sep-17-09 07:37 PM |
#111 |
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You go girl! nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Sep-17-09 07:41 PM |
#113 |
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I hope I'm wrong, but I think the corporations will win this one. |
Vattel |
Sep-17-09 07:45 PM |
#115 |
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"Natural persons" don't buy free speech . . . |
defendandprotect |
Sep-17-09 08:37 PM |
#137 |
| -
Of course they'll "win" this one! |
ProudDad |
Sep-18-09 12:32 PM |
#314 |
| -
Go Sonia! |
David Zephyr |
Sep-17-09 07:46 PM |
#116 |
| -
Thank you, Justice Sotomayor! |
ananda |
Sep-17-09 07:48 PM |
#117 |
| -
Woo hoo!!! |
Pharaoh |
Sep-17-09 07:49 PM |
#118 |
| -
End corporate rights! Now! Yeah!!!! |
Lint Head |
Sep-17-09 07:57 PM |
#120 |
| -
Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Sep-17-09 08:48 PM |
#141 |
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Thank you, Justice Sotomayor! |
mbperrin |
Sep-17-09 07:58 PM |
#121 |
| -
OH, YES .. . You Dear Sweet Sotomayer --- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-17-09 08:14 PM |
#123 |
| -
I'm liking this... |
annabanana |
Sep-17-09 08:20 PM |
#126 |
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Very encouraging. |
Suji to Seoul |
Sep-17-09 08:21 PM |
#127 |
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I really expect great things from her. I really do. It's hard to say, because |
NNadir |
Sep-17-09 08:32 PM |
#135 |
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Quick FYI regarding this case: Ted Olson, arguing for corp free speech, is the same bastard who |
MrsCorleone |
Sep-17-09 08:40 PM |
#138 |
| -
Only prob I have with this headline is that it was NEVER law |
OwnedByFerrets |
Sep-17-09 08:46 PM |
#140 |
| -
Terrific - I always felt it was wrong to give corporations personhood w/o the consequences of person |
2Design |
Sep-17-09 09:15 PM |
#146 |
| -
Big thumbs up for Justice Sotomayor |
HCE SuiGeneris |
Sep-17-09 09:23 PM |
#147 |
| -
This Is Some Of That "Wise Latina" On Display |
DallasNE |
Sep-17-09 09:28 PM |
#150 |
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K&R! Yes please! //nt |
Overseas |
Sep-17-09 09:36 PM |
#151 |
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That is big |
mvd |
Sep-17-09 09:40 PM |
#152 |
| -
*****WOW!!****** SO...Roberts, by his extra judicial activism |
BREMPRO |
Sep-17-09 09:41 PM |
#153 |
| -
Imagine how Roberts felt when he heard her say that |
BattyDem |
Sep-17-09 11:01 PM |
#182 |
| -
DOH! I'd give anything to have seen the blood rush out of his face. |
BREMPRO |
Sep-17-09 11:27 PM |
#190 |
| -
A big "you GO wise Latina" from me to our new national treasure |
Happyhippychick |
Sep-17-09 09:45 PM |
#155 |
| -
YAY!!! |
tilsammans |
Sep-17-09 09:45 PM |
#157 |
| -
And this is why they don't want a "wise Latina" on the court |
grantcart |
Sep-17-09 09:53 PM |
#160 |
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K&R.....she's good, very good....thank you President Obama.... |
unkachuck |
Sep-17-09 09:55 PM |
#161 |
| -
Only need 4 (n/t) |
ProudDad |
Sep-18-09 12:35 PM |
#316 |
| -
Recommended for a marvelous opening salvo |
Vidar |
Sep-17-09 10:03 PM |
#166 |
| -
K& R |
pleah |
Sep-17-09 10:04 PM |
#167 |
| -
Wise Latina strikes back! |
Lost-in-FL |
Sep-17-09 10:10 PM |
#169 |
| -
The conservatives on the court really don't believe in corporation |
jasi2006 |
Sep-17-09 10:10 PM |
#171 |
| -
Yeah, where is the |
Enthusiast |
Sep-18-09 04:02 AM |
#226 |
| -
If corporations are persons, which sex are they and which can marry which? |
PuppyBismark |
Sep-17-09 10:24 PM |
#173 |
| -
WOW! That is great news!!! |
BrklynLiberal |
Sep-17-09 10:32 PM |
#174 |
| -
I'm loving her ..., |
Kweli4Real |
Sep-17-09 10:33 PM |
#175 |
| -
Wow! Now this is what I want to see! |
tonekat |
Sep-17-09 10:35 PM |
#176 |
| -
Well, huge kudos. k*r This judge is intellectually honest. Rokken!!!! |
autorank |
Sep-17-09 10:37 PM |
#177 |
| -
I LOVE this woman already!!! |
BattyDem |
Sep-17-09 10:44 PM |
#178 |
| -
Oh Yes, OH YES! Thank you Justice Sotomayor! |
Merlot |
Sep-17-09 10:44 PM |
#179 |
| -
That's a relief. I was hoping she wouldn't be a turncoat. |
liquid diamond |
Sep-17-09 10:57 PM |
#180 |
| -
God Bless America! Gopod, be with us. Aristotle wake the fuck up. |
earcandle |
Sep-17-09 10:59 PM |
#181 |
| -
Way to start the debate! Yea! |
azul |
Sep-17-09 11:05 PM |
#183 |
| -
Well said! I totally agree with you. |
earcandle |
Sep-17-09 11:23 PM |
#187 |
| -
Thom Hartmann will be pleased. |
Bette Noir |
Sep-17-09 11:23 PM |
#186 |
| -
Indeed Thom will be!. This is one of Thom's major hot buttons. |
avaistheone1 |
Sep-18-09 12:54 AM |
#211 |
| -
K&R |
gtar100 |
Sep-17-09 11:26 PM |
#189 |
| -
Actual transcript of the oral arguments |
dccrossman |
Sep-17-09 11:34 PM |
#192 |
| -
link doesn't work |
NJCher |
Sep-18-09 06:59 AM |
#243 |
| -
Corrected link to oral arguments |
dccrossman |
Sep-18-09 08:31 AM |
#261 |
| -
Working link |
dccrossman |
Sep-18-09 08:32 AM |
#263 |
| -
K&R n/t |
lordsummerisle |
Sep-17-09 11:36 PM |
#193 |
| -
Finally some good Obama news! |
BurtWorm |
Sep-17-09 11:39 PM |
#194 |
| -
promising. |
nemo137 |
Sep-17-09 11:49 PM |
#195 |
| -
I am pleasantly SURPRISED! |
burrowowl |
Sep-17-09 11:52 PM |
#196 |
| -
End corporate personhood! |
sakabatou |
Sep-17-09 11:54 PM |
#197 |
| -
Wow! I have complained about that Corporate personhood shit for years! |
slay |
Sep-17-09 11:55 PM |
#198 |
| -
I said this before and I'll say it again... |
Libertas1776 |
Sep-18-09 12:09 AM |
#201 |
| -
The Horror!! The Horror!! |
NBachers |
Sep-18-09 12:42 AM |
#208 |
| -
YESSSSSSSS. nt |
GrilledCheeses |
Sep-18-09 01:11 AM |
#212 |
| -
I am waiting for this speech from AIG... |
drmjg |
Sep-18-09 01:13 AM |
#213 |
| -
He hated lawyers, but he might have made an exception for this. |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 06:56 AM |
#241 |
| -
That's because (the Queen's) corporate lawyers |
ProudDad |
Sep-18-09 12:37 PM |
#317 |
| -
K & R! |
tiptoe |
Sep-18-09 02:01 AM |
#216 |
| -
"Wise Latina" eh RW Bozos? |
StreetKnowledge |
Sep-18-09 02:17 AM |
#219 |
| -
K & R. Finally a voice of sanity about this. |
caseymoz |
Sep-18-09 03:13 AM |
#223 |
| -
Kick for the wise latina |
d_b |
Sep-18-09 03:38 AM |
#224 |
| -
Not that anyone will read this but |
nvme |
Sep-18-09 04:42 AM |
#228 |
| -
K&R |
dotymed |
Sep-18-09 05:19 AM |
#230 |
| -
WOW! Thanks. GREAT NEWS! |
Joanne98 |
Sep-18-09 05:45 AM |
#232 |
| -
Corporations hijacked that ruling... |
and-justice-for-all |
Sep-18-09 06:09 AM |
#234 |
| -
WOW! nt |
Peace Patriot |
Sep-18-09 06:30 AM |
#237 |
| -
I recall reading |
dipsydoodle |
Sep-18-09 06:32 AM |
#238 |
| -
GOLEM! |
Pryderi |
Sep-18-09 06:49 AM |
#240 |
| -
What troubles me is that corporations have rights superior to human beings. |
tclambert |
Sep-18-09 06:56 AM |
#242 |
| -
K & R She kicked Scalia right in his originalist nads. |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 07:04 AM |
#244 |
| -
But, but, but,... Certain DUers assured me Sotomayor was a conservative corporatist |
HamdenRice |
Sep-18-09 07:05 AM |
#245 |
| -
That's what I was told too. It would seem none of them posted here. n/t |
vaberella |
Sep-18-09 07:14 AM |
#246 |
| -
I'm posting here |
ProudDad |
Sep-18-09 12:47 PM |
#323 |
| -
Don't know if you are referring to me. If you are, though, "You lie." |
No Elephants |
Sep-18-09 11:41 AM |
#292 |
| -
You seem very defensive. |
HamdenRice |
Sep-18-09 12:23 PM |
#311 |
| -
EXCELLENT! |
wicket |
Sep-18-09 07:25 AM |
#248 |
| -
Didn't see that one coming, now, did you, Corporate America? |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Sep-18-09 07:32 AM |
#249 |
| -
Is this true, or just a wild, ecstatic fantasy? |
NinetySix |
Sep-18-09 07:53 AM |
#250 |
| -
Thats AWSOME! nt |
Tim01 |
Sep-18-09 08:15 AM |
#255 |
| -
Incredible, timely, ... wow. /nt |
Festivito |
Sep-18-09 08:19 AM |
#256 |
| -
QUESTION EVERYTHING! You go Justice Sotomayor! |
TheDebbieDee |
Sep-18-09 08:27 AM |
#259 |
| -
Wow. Talk about putting the cat among the pigeons! |
GliderGuider |
Sep-18-09 08:43 AM |
#265 |
| -
Great to hear!!! |
tekisui |
Sep-18-09 08:44 AM |
#266 |
| -
Kennedy is the swing vote in this case |
mn9driver |
Sep-18-09 09:00 AM |
#267 |
| -
What a fantastic way to start the day! nt |
Dora |
Sep-18-09 09:08 AM |
#268 |
| -
Maybe she read Thom Hartmann's book "Unequal Protection"... |
Postman |
Sep-18-09 09:21 AM |
#269 |
| -
Go Judge Sotomayor! Go, go! |
closeupready |
Sep-18-09 09:23 AM |
#271 |
| -
BIG K nR |
Mari333 |
Sep-18-09 09:26 AM |
#272 |
| -
she just pushed a serious issue into the spot light |
fascisthunter |
Sep-18-09 09:39 AM |
#273 |
| -
Oops! She is part of the Reconquista |
AlphaCentauri |
Sep-18-09 09:41 AM |
#276 |
| -
good |
lkjasfulkj |
Sep-18-09 10:11 AM |
#278 |
| -
The whole premise of corporations as persons is insulting and ludicrous |
debbierlus |
Sep-18-09 10:25 AM |
#279 |
| -
The "Corporate form" has rights it "should be afforded?" |
Lorien |
Sep-18-09 10:28 AM |
#280 |
| -
I was worried about the pick at first, but this is a good sign |
veganlush |
Sep-18-09 10:33 AM |
#281 |
| -
offered an early hint of the direction Justice Sotomayor might want to take the court. |
AlbertCat |
Sep-18-09 10:39 AM |
#282 |
| -
I really hope either Keith or Rachel has some words about this tonight |
derby378 |
Sep-18-09 10:39 AM |
#283 |
| -
Unfortunately, Sotomayor replaced Souter |
disndat |
Sep-18-09 11:06 AM |
#285 |
| -
You go, girl! nt |
valerief |
Sep-18-09 11:21 AM |
#287 |
| -
Just plain "WOW!" |
Plucketeer |
Sep-18-09 11:25 AM |
#288 |
| -
Should the US conduct their elections like the Corporations conduct theirs? |
Wizard777 |
Sep-18-09 11:28 AM |
#289 |
| -
yay! |
Cronus Protagonist |
Sep-18-09 11:29 AM |
#290 |
| -
I'm stunned |
ProudDad |
Sep-18-09 11:43 AM |
#293 |
| -
lets make the argument- common sense- corporations are NOT persons |
BREMPRO |
Sep-18-09 11:48 AM |
#294 |
| -
Corporation = psychopath... |
ProudDad |
Sep-18-09 12:01 PM |
#301 |
| -
clinically psychopathic entities run our lives and need to be disbanded if they act against |
BREMPRO |
Sep-18-09 12:11 PM |
#304 |
| -
I was soooo hoping for this argument |
CAcyclist |
Sep-18-09 12:16 PM |
#307 |
| -
I wonder what that clown Jonathan Turley has to say about her intellectual capacity now. n/t |
vaberella |
Sep-18-09 12:39 PM |
#318 |
| -
Turley was honest... it sounds like you want a partisan yes man. |
bc3000 |
Sep-18-09 01:06 PM |
#332 |
| -
"a partisan yes man" What the hell is that? |
vaberella |
Sep-18-09 02:40 PM |
#361 |
| -
interesting article on the history of corporate charters and the revocation movement |
BREMPRO |
Sep-18-09 12:41 PM |
#320 |
| -
Go Sonya |
lark |
Sep-18-09 12:48 PM |
#324 |
| -
"that was the court's error to start with" |
pinto |
Sep-18-09 01:04 PM |
#330 |
| -
BIG K & R!! |
jonestonesusa |
Sep-18-09 01:20 PM |
#334 |
| -
Let's hope this opinion can prevail and stop or modify the move by bush lackey Roberts |
diane in sf |
Sep-18-09 01:31 PM |
#340 |
| -
What an astonishingly wonderful surprise. |
ooglymoogly |
Sep-18-09 01:42 PM |
#347 |
| -
gracias! |
AlecBGreen |
Sep-18-09 01:59 PM |
#350 |
| -
OMG!!!! Sotomayor rules!!! |
DesertDiamond |
Sep-18-09 02:27 PM |
#356 |
| -
The recognition of corporate personhood is the quintessential example of legislating from the bench. |
Zorra |
Sep-18-09 02:37 PM |
#359 |
| -
You Are SOOO Correct... THIS WOULD BE Thje Key To Returning Govt. To The People Where It Belongs! |
DaLittle Kitty |
Sep-19-09 02:54 PM |
#387 |
| -
And for another method to fight the evil... |
ProudDad |
Sep-18-09 02:40 PM |
#360 |
| -
Best news I've heard |
Eyes_wide_ open |
Sep-18-09 03:57 PM |
#366 |
| -
Andale, hermanita! |
EFerrari |
Sep-18-09 10:10 PM |
#382 |
| -
Fingers crossed, but I'm not holding my breath. |
earth mom |
Sep-19-09 05:32 PM |
#390 |
| -
kick--Sotomayor is a definite feather in Obama's cap |
yurbud |
Sep-20-09 02:42 AM |
#392 |
| -
Still thrilled. Kicking again. //nt |
Overseas |
Sep-20-09 03:00 PM |
#394 |
| -
simply raising this issue on the Supreme Court is a major step forward!! |
Douglas Carpenter |
Sep-20-09 08:59 PM |
#395 |
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