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Sat Aug-29-09 09:51 PM
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| 23. Roland, I think you covered it with this statement "In fact, I felt GREAT |
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which is odd as it was a period in my life when my wife left, I lost my job, and I was losing my house.
It is disturbing to me that during such a time of personal upheaval you would describe yourself as feeling great. That is a mental disconnect with reality. A BIG disconnect.
I'm only speculating, but it seems that a drug that would cause someone to feel great when his/her life is in a dreadful place could have some very negative effects on others whose body chemistry might be different from "normal".
Another point to consider: many drugs are just fine for a large percentage of the population, but for a small percentage they can be debilitating or deadly. If the clinical trials were not thorough enough or if the drug causes serious negative interactions in a tiny fraction of users, its ill effects might not be discovered until later when many "subjects" were using the drug.
One more possibility: when someone takes a drug that alters his/her perception of reality as massively as it did yours, is it possible that when one stopped taking that drug and the massive impact of reality struck them hard, especially if they were already prone to mental problems, there might be dire consequences when the person could not cope with the real world?
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| -Spokeswoman: 7 found dead at Ga. mobile home |
undeterred |
Aug-29-09 03:06 PM |
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Horrible. |
Liberal_in_LA |
Aug-29-09 03:24 PM |
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I can't even imagine the horror. Those poor people |
GreenPartyVoter |
Aug-29-09 04:01 PM |
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Looks like another mass shooting |
depakid |
Aug-29-09 05:22 PM |
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last sentence makes it sound like murder-suicide. |
Ex Lurker |
Aug-29-09 05:34 PM |
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How much you want to bet SSRIs were involved? |
Th1onein |
Aug-29-09 08:28 PM |
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Pardon my ignorance. What's an SSRI? |
bertman |
Aug-29-09 08:55 PM |
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Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor --class of anti-depressive drugs |
Th1onein |
Aug-29-09 08:57 PM |
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Thanks, Thlonein. Scary stuff. Are they commonly prescribed for anxiety or for serious |
bertman |
Aug-29-09 09:18 PM |
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Nowadays? They are given out like candy. |
Th1onein |
Aug-29-09 09:21 PM |
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The Virginia Tech guy WASN'T on Medication |
barbiegeek |
Aug-29-09 09:47 PM |
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this is highly offensive |
RedSock |
Aug-29-09 11:29 PM |
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Seconded. |
crim son |
Aug-30-09 09:18 AM |
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You are an ignorant ass who is insulting every poster with Depression on this site! |
Odin2005 |
Aug-30-09 09:27 PM |
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So you don't suspect that his mental illness might have played a role... |
Hansel |
Aug-31-09 03:14 PM |
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They are, along with pit bulls, assault rifles, Olive Garden, and breast feeding, |
QC |
Aug-30-09 06:31 AM |
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pit bulls, assault rifles, Olive Garden, and breast feeding |
subcomhd |
Aug-30-09 10:55 PM |
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It's true! n/t |
QC |
Aug-31-09 01:10 PM |
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which makes it so funny |
subcomhd |
Aug-31-09 03:03 PM |
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The drugs? Or the problems with the people who are on them already have? |
Roland99 |
Aug-29-09 09:13 PM |
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Sorry, Roland. Not the case here. |
Th1onein |
Aug-29-09 09:24 PM |
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What is the hard evidence out there? Sounds anecdotal. |
Roland99 |
Aug-29-09 09:30 PM |
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Roland, I think you covered it with this statement "In fact, I felt GREAT |
bertman |
Aug-29-09 09:51 PM |
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I meant that I didn't feel depressed. I was able to move on in my life |
Roland99 |
Aug-29-09 11:23 PM |
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Thank you for the clarification. Do you feel that you could not have done those things |
bertman |
Aug-29-09 11:35 PM |
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Considering I was starting to have anxiety attacks where I felt detached from my body? |
Roland99 |
Aug-30-09 01:53 AM |
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It's great that YOU did not suffer any deleterious effects. |
Th1onein |
Aug-29-09 10:05 PM |
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I have to wonder as to the reasons these parents felt as they did. |
Roland99 |
Aug-29-09 11:27 PM |
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What you SHOULD be wondering is this: |
Th1onein |
Aug-30-09 08:23 AM |
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An explosion of mass murders? Let's dial down the hyperbole, eh? |
Roland99 |
Aug-30-09 09:05 AM |
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Unfortunately, it's not hyperbole |
Th1onein |
Aug-30-09 05:09 PM |
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On that second page, two were job-loss related, one was a wife leaving the husband |
Roland99 |
Aug-30-09 08:43 PM |
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I guess what they say is true. None are so blind as those who will not see. |
Th1onein |
Aug-30-09 09:09 PM |
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*plonk* |
Roland99 |
Aug-30-09 09:17 PM |
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Sorry, but this is generalized BS. |
Akoto |
Aug-30-09 09:52 AM |
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I don't think that people who take these compounds are evil! |
Th1onein |
Aug-30-09 05:31 PM |
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You are a LIAR |
Odin2005 |
Aug-30-09 09:30 PM |
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Hyperbole much? |
Hansel |
Aug-31-09 03:19 PM |
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Insurance pays 4 Meds NOT Counseling which you need 2 recover |
barbiegeek |
Aug-29-09 09:48 PM |
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The insurance I had at the time covered both. Depends on your coverage. |
Roland99 |
Aug-29-09 11:28 PM |
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Do you have any evidence to back up this claim? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Aug-30-09 07:33 PM |
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BULLSHIT! |
Odin2005 |
Aug-30-09 09:25 PM |
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Nope. Mass bludgeoning. See the other thread on this |
Recursion |
Aug-31-09 10:13 AM |
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What a horror-show. |
proteus_lives |
Aug-29-09 05:27 PM |
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Sounds more like domestic violence... |
depakid |
Aug-29-09 05:34 PM |
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My first thought |
JonQ |
Aug-29-09 09:21 PM |
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Guns don't kill people. Gun owners kill people. nt |
onehandle |
Aug-29-09 07:58 PM |
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Thanks for this. The perfect response. |
mudplanet |
Aug-29-09 08:14 PM |
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Correction: |
JonQ |
Aug-29-09 09:22 PM |
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errr... at least six mass shooters in the past 2 years have been had conceled carry permits |
depakid |
Aug-29-09 09:47 PM |
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Ah, Josh Sugarmann and that paragon of truthfulness |
pipoman |
Aug-30-09 07:26 AM |
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Despite the counterfactual propaganda in actual FACT more of these occur than can be documented |
depakid |
Aug-30-09 10:04 AM |
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Really? |
pipoman |
Aug-30-09 04:19 PM |
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No sense in arguing with an NRA type |
depakid |
Aug-30-09 05:48 PM |
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Oh contrare, mon frere, |
pipoman |
Aug-30-09 07:57 PM |
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You are one gun obsessed individual |
depakid |
Aug-31-09 12:30 AM |
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Sensible folks know |
pipoman |
Aug-31-09 12:55 AM |
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Explain zurich, southern germany, Finland, and canada |
Pavulon |
Aug-30-09 04:52 PM |
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The US has ALWAYS |
pipoman |
Aug-30-09 08:30 PM |
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I think anyone who resorts to using so called facts |
JonQ |
Aug-30-09 10:11 AM |
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That's Hilarious!! I'm using that |
barbiegeek |
Aug-29-09 09:49 PM |
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Actually one of the worst. |
proteus_lives |
Aug-29-09 11:52 PM |
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Hyperbolic truth? It's very effective and to the point..n/t |
bitchkitty |
Aug-30-09 03:36 AM |
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"It's very effective and to the point" |
proteus_lives |
Aug-30-09 05:06 AM |
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Nice personal attack. |
bitchkitty |
Aug-30-09 05:39 AM |
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Sorry but don't endorse hyperbole. |
proteus_lives |
Aug-30-09 02:06 PM |
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The problem is, it's not accurate |
slackmaster |
Aug-30-09 09:18 AM |
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If guns don't kill people, hammers don't drive nails. |
caseymoz |
Aug-30-09 12:59 PM |
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Your teenage kid with its cell is more dangerous |
Pavulon |
Aug-30-09 02:04 PM |
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I'm pro-2A, I just hate the bullshit on both sides. And you just launched a shovel full there. |
caseymoz |
Aug-31-09 09:37 AM |
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ANOTHER FLAME WAR BREWING |
saigon68 |
Aug-30-09 03:43 AM |
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Two, actually. The anti-medication crowd has already thrown a punch. n/t |
QC |
Aug-30-09 06:36 AM |
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I'm not anti-medication. I am a scientist. |
Th1onein |
Aug-30-09 08:26 AM |
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I would probably be dead without them. n/t |
QC |
Aug-30-09 08:31 AM |
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Well, I'm glad that you're not. |
Th1onein |
Aug-30-09 08:51 AM |
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All of the regulators are now captives of the industries they supposedly regulate. |
QC |
Aug-30-09 09:14 AM |
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I don't think it's the insurance companies or the necessity for monitoring so much.... |
Th1onein |
Aug-30-09 09:46 AM |
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I'm a Biochemsitry major that thinks you are a crank. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-30-09 09:34 PM |
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LOL I ain't getting involved in that one |
saigon68 |
Aug-30-09 02:25 PM |
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And we haven't touched patterns of criminal thinking or schizophrenia yet |
saigon68 |
Aug-30-09 02:28 PM |
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But not that often in Greenwich, CT , Telluride CO.. wonder why? |
Pavulon |
Aug-30-09 09:01 AM |
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I Hate To Encourage You, But Just What The Hell Are You Talking About? (n/t) |
Paladin |
Aug-30-09 09:38 AM |
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Aside from the 50% of gun deaths that are suicide, poverty and drug law |
Pavulon |
Aug-30-09 09:49 AM |
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Be Sure To Let Us All Know....... |
Paladin |
Aug-30-09 01:14 PM |
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What law do you propose as a magic solution. Yep real solutions take effort |
Pavulon |
Aug-30-09 02:02 PM |
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Get Back To Me When You're Coherent..... (n/t) |
Paladin |
Aug-30-09 04:09 PM |
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= I got nothing and quit? What I got |
Pavulon |
Aug-30-09 04:50 PM |
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Ooh, next time some gangbanger kills someone |
JonQ |
Aug-30-09 10:15 AM |
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Possession is 9/10ths of the law and 100% of reality. |
onehandle |
Aug-30-09 11:23 AM |
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Yeah, he meant don't take his guns away |
JonQ |
Aug-30-09 05:20 PM |
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I thought they were bludgeoned |
Recursion |
Aug-31-09 10:14 AM |
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officially, they aren't saying |
TorchTheWitch |
Sep-01-09 03:13 AM |
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Apparently, they weren't shot |
TorchTheWitch |
Sep-01-09 02:37 AM |
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I've never seen police so subdued about a major case. |
caseymoz |
Aug-30-09 01:01 PM |
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or doesn't involve a young, female, attractive blond model |
Liberal_in_LA |
Aug-30-09 04:26 PM |
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I'd call 7 dead people pretty horrifically sad |
Dreamer Tatum |
Aug-30-09 05:42 PM |
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When you have shootings where there are up to 33 people killed |
caseymoz |
Aug-31-09 03:37 AM |
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They're all reading this post and saying |
undeterred |
Aug-30-09 06:36 PM |
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Guns weren't used so there's no moral panic? |
Recursion |
Aug-31-09 10:21 AM |
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Actually, it would lack a political panic without the NRA rushing to deny guns made it possible. |
caseymoz |
Aug-31-09 12:13 PM |
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Police hold 911 caller in Brunswick slayings |
theHandpuppet |
Aug-30-09 02:24 PM |
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Crikey- look at the string of gun violence in Glynn County mentioned below the article |
depakid |
Aug-30-09 05:36 PM |
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Police arrest man who reported 7 dead in Ga. home |
undeterred |
Aug-30-09 08:34 PM |
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Anyone else heard the call? |
funkybutt |
Aug-31-09 01:24 PM |
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I'd like to listen to it. Without hearing it, it's a big leap from |
closeupready |
Aug-31-09 03:11 PM |
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I heard the call. |
LisaL |
Sep-01-09 02:02 AM |
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Just the way I heard it |
funkybutt |
Sep-01-09 12:56 PM |
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Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah that does seem odd. |
closeupready |
Sep-01-09 01:05 PM |
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That's interesting and I can believe this is true |
funkybutt |
Sep-01-09 02:08 PM |
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No, but if you (or someone) has a link, it would be much appreciated. |
closeupready |
Sep-01-09 02:18 PM |
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Actually, this was not that call with him on it - it appears to be his neighbors |
closeupready |
Sep-01-09 09:39 PM |
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And I don't mean to belabor the point, but I found Bob Herbert's column |
closeupready |
Sep-01-09 02:30 PM |
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I heard the call. |
LisaL |
Sep-01-09 01:55 AM |
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