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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 09:30 PM
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18. What is the hard evidence out there? Sounds anecdotal.
And more anecdotal evidence:

I was on Paxil (an SSRI) for several months. Never once did I want to shoot up a school. In fact, I felt GREAT which is odd as it was a period in my life when my wife left, I lost my job, and I was losing my house.

I've a good friend who's been on Paxil for years...close to a decade.

I know several others who've been on SSRIs with no bad effects.

I think one needs to look at the deeper reasons people go off like this.
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  -Spokeswoman: 7 found dead at Ga. mobile home undeterred  Aug-29-09 03:06 PM   #0 
  - Horrible.  Liberal_in_LA   Aug-29-09 03:24 PM   #1 
  - I can't even imagine the horror. Those poor people  GreenPartyVoter   Aug-29-09 04:01 PM   #2 
  - Looks like another mass shooting  depakid   Aug-29-09 05:22 PM   #3 
  - last sentence makes it sound like murder-suicide.  Ex Lurker   Aug-29-09 05:34 PM   #5 
  - How much you want to bet SSRIs were involved?  Th1onein   Aug-29-09 08:28 PM   #9 
  - Pardon my ignorance. What's an SSRI?  bertman   Aug-29-09 08:55 PM   #10 
  - Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor --class of anti-depressive drugs  Th1onein   Aug-29-09 08:57 PM   #11 
  - Thanks, Thlonein. Scary stuff. Are they commonly prescribed for anxiety or for serious  bertman   Aug-29-09 09:18 PM   #13 
  - Nowadays? They are given out like candy.  Th1onein   Aug-29-09 09:21 PM   #14 
  - The Virginia Tech guy WASN'T on Medication  barbiegeek   Aug-29-09 09:47 PM   #19 
  - this is highly offensive  RedSock   Aug-29-09 11:29 PM   #28 
  - Seconded.  crim son   Aug-30-09 09:18 AM   #46 
  - You are an ignorant ass who is insulting every poster with Depression on this site!  Odin2005   Aug-30-09 09:27 PM   #85 
  - So you don't suspect that his mental illness might have played a role...  Hansel   Aug-31-09 03:14 PM   #101 
  - They are, along with pit bulls, assault rifles, Olive Garden, and breast feeding,  QC   Aug-30-09 06:31 AM   #36 
     - pit bulls, assault rifles, Olive Garden, and breast feeding  subcomhd   Aug-30-09 10:55 PM   #88 
        - It's true! n/t  QC   Aug-31-09 01:10 PM   #97 
           - which makes it so funny  subcomhd   Aug-31-09 03:03 PM   #99 
  - The drugs? Or the problems with the people who are on them already have?  Roland99   Aug-29-09 09:13 PM   #12 
  - Sorry, Roland. Not the case here.  Th1onein   Aug-29-09 09:24 PM   #17 
  - What is the hard evidence out there? Sounds anecdotal.  Roland99   Aug-29-09 09:30 PM   #18 
  - Roland, I think you covered it with this statement "In fact, I felt GREAT  bertman   Aug-29-09 09:51 PM   #23 
  - I meant that I didn't feel depressed. I was able to move on in my life  Roland99   Aug-29-09 11:23 PM   #25 
     - Thank you for the clarification. Do you feel that you could not have done those things  bertman   Aug-29-09 11:35 PM   #29 
        - Considering I was starting to have anxiety attacks where I felt detached from my body?  Roland99   Aug-30-09 01:53 AM   #31 
  - It's great that YOU did not suffer any deleterious effects.  Th1onein   Aug-29-09 10:05 PM   #24 
     - I have to wonder as to the reasons these parents felt as they did.  Roland99   Aug-29-09 11:27 PM   #26 
        - What you SHOULD be wondering is this:  Th1onein   Aug-30-09 08:23 AM   #39 
           - An explosion of mass murders? Let's dial down the hyperbole, eh?  Roland99   Aug-30-09 09:05 AM   #44 
              - Unfortunately, it's not hyperbole  Th1onein   Aug-30-09 05:09 PM   #70 
                 - On that second page, two were job-loss related, one was a wife leaving the husband  Roland99   Aug-30-09 08:43 PM   #81 
                    - I guess what they say is true. None are so blind as those who will not see.  Th1onein   Aug-30-09 09:09 PM   #82 
                       - *plonk*  Roland99   Aug-30-09 09:17 PM   #83 
  - Sorry, but this is generalized BS.  Akoto   Aug-30-09 09:52 AM   #51 
  - I don't think that people who take these compounds are evil!  Th1onein   Aug-30-09 05:31 PM   #72 
  - You are a LIAR  Odin2005   Aug-30-09 09:30 PM   #86 
  - Hyperbole much?  Hansel   Aug-31-09 03:19 PM   #102 
  - Insurance pays 4 Meds NOT Counseling which you need 2 recover  barbiegeek   Aug-29-09 09:48 PM   #21 
     - The insurance I had at the time covered both. Depends on your coverage.  Roland99   Aug-29-09 11:28 PM   #27 
  - Do you have any evidence to back up this claim?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Aug-30-09 07:33 PM   #77 
  - BULLSHIT!  Odin2005   Aug-30-09 09:25 PM   #84 
  - Nope. Mass bludgeoning. See the other thread on this  Recursion   Aug-31-09 10:13 AM   #93 
  - What a horror-show.  proteus_lives   Aug-29-09 05:27 PM   #4 
  - Sounds more like domestic violence...  depakid   Aug-29-09 05:34 PM   #6 
  - My first thought  JonQ   Aug-29-09 09:21 PM   #15 
  - Guns don't kill people. Gun owners kill people. nt  onehandle   Aug-29-09 07:58 PM   #7 
  - Thanks for this. The perfect response.  mudplanet   Aug-29-09 08:14 PM   #8 
  - Correction:  JonQ   Aug-29-09 09:22 PM   #16 
  - errr... at least six mass shooters in the past 2 years have been had conceled carry permits  depakid   Aug-29-09 09:47 PM   #20 
     - Ah, Josh Sugarmann and that paragon of truthfulness  pipoman   Aug-30-09 07:26 AM   #38 
        - Despite the counterfactual propaganda in actual FACT more of these occur than can be documented  depakid   Aug-30-09 10:04 AM   #52 
        - Really?  pipoman   Aug-30-09 04:19 PM   #66 
        - No sense in arguing with an NRA type  depakid   Aug-30-09 05:48 PM   #75 
           - Oh contrare, mon frere,  pipoman   Aug-30-09 07:57 PM   #78 
              - You are one gun obsessed individual  depakid   Aug-31-09 12:30 AM   #89 
                 - Sensible folks know  pipoman   Aug-31-09 12:55 AM   #90 
        - Explain zurich, southern germany, Finland, and canada  Pavulon   Aug-30-09 04:52 PM   #69 
           - The US has ALWAYS  pipoman   Aug-30-09 08:30 PM   #79 
        - I think anyone who resorts to using so called facts  JonQ   Aug-30-09 10:11 AM   #53 
  - That's Hilarious!! I'm using that  barbiegeek   Aug-29-09 09:49 PM   #22 
  - Actually one of the worst.  proteus_lives   Aug-29-09 11:52 PM   #30 
  - Hyperbolic truth? It's very effective and to the point..n/t  bitchkitty   Aug-30-09 03:36 AM   #32 
  - "It's very effective and to the point"  proteus_lives   Aug-30-09 05:06 AM   #34 
  - Nice personal attack.  bitchkitty   Aug-30-09 05:39 AM   #35 
     - Sorry but don't endorse hyperbole.  proteus_lives   Aug-30-09 02:06 PM   #61 
  - The problem is, it's not accurate  slackmaster   Aug-30-09 09:18 AM   #47 
  - If guns don't kill people, hammers don't drive nails.  caseymoz   Aug-30-09 12:59 PM   #56 
     - Your teenage kid with its cell is more dangerous  Pavulon   Aug-30-09 02:04 PM   #60 
        - I'm pro-2A, I just hate the bullshit on both sides. And you just launched a shovel full there.  caseymoz   Aug-31-09 09:37 AM   #92 
  - ANOTHER FLAME WAR BREWING  saigon68   Aug-30-09 03:43 AM   #33 
     - Two, actually. The anti-medication crowd has already thrown a punch. n/t  QC   Aug-30-09 06:36 AM   #37 
        - I'm not anti-medication. I am a scientist.  Th1onein   Aug-30-09 08:26 AM   #40 
        - I would probably be dead without them. n/t  QC   Aug-30-09 08:31 AM   #41 
        - Well, I'm glad that you're not.  Th1onein   Aug-30-09 08:51 AM   #42 
           - All of the regulators are now captives of the industries they supposedly regulate.  QC   Aug-30-09 09:14 AM   #45 
              - I don't think it's the insurance companies or the necessity for monitoring so much....  Th1onein   Aug-30-09 09:46 AM   #49 
        - I'm a Biochemsitry major that thinks you are a crank.  Odin2005   Aug-30-09 09:34 PM   #87 
        - LOL I ain't getting involved in that one  saigon68   Aug-30-09 02:25 PM   #63 
           - And we haven't touched patterns of criminal thinking or schizophrenia yet  saigon68   Aug-30-09 02:28 PM   #64 
  - But not that often in Greenwich, CT , Telluride CO.. wonder why?  Pavulon   Aug-30-09 09:01 AM   #43 
  - I Hate To Encourage You, But Just What The Hell Are You Talking About? (n/t)  Paladin   Aug-30-09 09:38 AM   #48 
     - Aside from the 50% of gun deaths that are suicide, poverty and drug law  Pavulon   Aug-30-09 09:49 AM   #50 
        - Be Sure To Let Us All Know.......  Paladin   Aug-30-09 01:14 PM   #58 
           - What law do you propose as a magic solution. Yep real solutions take effort  Pavulon   Aug-30-09 02:02 PM   #59 
              - Get Back To Me When You're Coherent..... (n/t)  Paladin   Aug-30-09 04:09 PM   #65 
                 - = I got nothing and quit? What I got  Pavulon   Aug-30-09 04:50 PM   #68 
  - Ooh, next time some gangbanger kills someone  JonQ   Aug-30-09 10:15 AM   #54 
  - Possession is 9/10ths of the law and 100% of reality.  onehandle   Aug-30-09 11:23 AM   #55 
     - Yeah, he meant don't take his guns away  JonQ   Aug-30-09 05:20 PM   #71 
  - I thought they were bludgeoned  Recursion   Aug-31-09 10:14 AM   #94 
  - officially, they aren't saying  TorchTheWitch   Sep-01-09 03:13 AM   #106 
  - Apparently, they weren't shot  TorchTheWitch   Sep-01-09 02:37 AM   #105 
  - I've never seen police so subdued about a major case.  caseymoz   Aug-30-09 01:01 PM   #57 
  - or doesn't involve a young, female, attractive blond model  Liberal_in_LA   Aug-30-09 04:26 PM   #67 
  - I'd call 7 dead people pretty horrifically sad  Dreamer Tatum   Aug-30-09 05:42 PM   #74 
  - When you have shootings where there are up to 33 people killed  caseymoz   Aug-31-09 03:37 AM   #91 
  - They're all reading this post and saying  undeterred   Aug-30-09 06:36 PM   #76 
  - Guns weren't used so there's no moral panic?  Recursion   Aug-31-09 10:21 AM   #95 
     - Actually, it would lack a political panic without the NRA rushing to deny guns made it possible.  caseymoz   Aug-31-09 12:13 PM   #96 
  - Police hold 911 caller in Brunswick slayings  theHandpuppet   Aug-30-09 02:24 PM   #62 
  - Crikey- look at the string of gun violence in Glynn County mentioned below the article  depakid   Aug-30-09 05:36 PM   #73 
  - Police arrest man who reported 7 dead in Ga. home  undeterred   Aug-30-09 08:34 PM   #80 
     - Anyone else heard the call?  funkybutt   Aug-31-09 01:24 PM   #98 
        - I'd like to listen to it. Without hearing it, it's a big leap from  closeupready   Aug-31-09 03:11 PM   #100 
        - I heard the call.  LisaL   Sep-01-09 02:02 AM   #104 
        - Just the way I heard it  funkybutt   Sep-01-09 12:56 PM   #107 
           - Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah that does seem odd.  closeupready   Sep-01-09 01:05 PM   #108 
              - That's interesting and I can believe this is true  funkybutt   Sep-01-09 02:08 PM   #109 
                 - No, but if you (or someone) has a link, it would be much appreciated.  closeupready   Sep-01-09 02:18 PM   #110 
                 - Actually, this was not that call with him on it - it appears to be his neighbors  closeupready   Sep-01-09 09:39 PM   #112 
                 - And I don't mean to belabor the point, but I found Bob Herbert's column  closeupready   Sep-01-09 02:30 PM   #111 
        - I heard the call.  LisaL   Sep-01-09 01:55 AM   #103 

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