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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:14 PM
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45. Did they cause oil prices to go up? Absolutely not! They are not the drivers of their fortunes.
I am not a doomsayer. I look at economic trends and see them for what they are. In good oil years Venezuela does good. In bad years for oil prices, they do bad. Venezuela is largely dependent on oil. This shouldn't be brain surgery to understand!
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  -Venezuela sees economy skirting recession-report Judi Lynn  Aug-23-09 01:21 PM   #0 
  - No doubt someone is going to claim responsibility when in actuality...  Fearless   Aug-23-09 01:35 PM   #1 
  - Both of which  dipsydoodle   Aug-23-09 01:38 PM   #2 
  - Instead of listening to what's trendy try talking to people who live in Venezuela..  Fearless   Aug-23-09 06:04 PM   #6 
     - Link it.  Wilms   Aug-23-09 06:08 PM   #7 
     - Very well...  Fearless   Aug-23-09 06:27 PM   #22 
        - LOL. That's hilarious.  EFerrari   Aug-23-09 06:30 PM   #23 
        - Wow... maybe you should go back and read it... he was nearly ousted because of FAILURES of the 1990s  Fearless   Aug-23-09 06:33 PM   #26 
           - No thanks. Chavez was nearly ousted because he moved against  EFerrari   Aug-23-09 06:55 PM   #36 
           - Chavez was restored to power by his own people  sabrina 1   Aug-23-09 08:15 PM   #54 
              - I knew Venuezula was doing something right and that is why we were attacking them behind the scenes.  earcandle   Aug-23-09 09:04 PM   #57 
        - I'd imagine most countries economies are affected by the largest resource.  Wilms   Aug-23-09 06:30 PM   #24 
           - The OP's link is...  Fearless   Aug-23-09 06:35 PM   #27 
              - Actually, your remark alleged impropriety.  Wilms   Aug-23-09 06:45 PM   #30 
                 - What I said...  Fearless   Aug-23-09 06:55 PM   #35 
                    - The sum of the "bad times" of his leadership is this last quarter  EFerrari   Aug-23-09 07:10 PM   #42 
                    - No the sum of the total of his leadership time actually. Not just the last four years.  Fearless   Aug-23-09 07:12 PM   #44 
                       - Chavez came into office in 1999. The GDP dropped between 1-2 per cent  EFerrari   Aug-23-09 07:28 PM   #48 
                    - So that it's clear, I'll reprint your post I've asked you to provide a cite for.  Wilms   Aug-23-09 07:35 PM   #51 
                       - .  Wilms   Aug-23-09 10:22 PM   #63 
     - Who are YOU listening to in Venezuela?  EFerrari   Aug-23-09 06:08 PM   #8 
     - I tend to listen to those who aren't getting what they were promised...  Fearless   Aug-23-09 06:12 PM   #12 
        - I don't listen to anyone but read everything and do the math.  EFerrari   Aug-23-09 06:14 PM   #14 
        - Well before the oil price boom of the late 2000's you had this...  Fearless   Aug-23-09 06:17 PM   #17 
           - Actually, oil is at over $70 right now. And the Ven government  EFerrari   Aug-23-09 06:23 PM   #20 
              - And yet their economy is shrinking...  Fearless   Aug-23-09 06:32 PM   #25 
                 - Well it could be a lagging effect, of sorts.  Wilms   Aug-23-09 06:50 PM   #32 
                 - We would need to take certain factors into count...  Fearless   Aug-23-09 07:05 PM   #39 
                    - Yes. Which is ironic given the belligerence with which the US and Corporate Media treat LA. n/t  Wilms   Aug-23-09 07:37 PM   #52 
                 - Too bad we didn't get their bailout.  EFerrari   Aug-23-09 06:51 PM   #33 
                    - If you want to argue about the bail out I'd be glad to... but I'm not doing it here...  Fearless   Aug-23-09 07:09 PM   #40 
                       - But in general, their strategy would have been better for us.  EFerrari   Aug-23-09 07:15 PM   #46 
                          - CEO's pay isn't what doomed our economy...  Fearless   Aug-23-09 07:23 PM   #47 
                             - Actually, the pre-Chavez Venezuelan economy did resemble ours.  EFerrari   Aug-23-09 07:39 PM   #53 
        - That's not an answer.  Wilms   Aug-23-09 06:16 PM   #16 
     - I'm sure someone from Venezuela...  WriteDown   Aug-23-09 06:11 PM   #11 
        - Let's hope so... because it takes citizenship to be knowlegable... Just like in US politics.  Fearless   Aug-23-09 06:13 PM   #13 
           - LOL By the same logic, we should just shut down our schools  EFerrari   Aug-23-09 06:16 PM   #15 
              - No, by my logic it takes more than citizenship to be knowlegeable.  Fearless   Aug-23-09 06:20 PM   #19 
                 - Your post didn't say that. n/t  EFerrari   Aug-23-09 06:25 PM   #21 
                    - It did and still does actually. Notice... no edit mark.  Fearless   Aug-23-09 06:36 PM   #28 
                       - Maybe you dropped a word then. No, your post doesn't say that  EFerrari   Aug-23-09 07:00 PM   #38 
                          - You can read it above for heaven's sake!  Fearless   Aug-23-09 07:10 PM   #41 
                             - So can you - so why don't you?  bitchkitty   Aug-24-09 12:21 PM   #69 
  - That's funny. That same oil was under the ground when  EFerrari   Aug-23-09 06:18 PM   #18 
  - Not what I said.  Fearless   Aug-23-09 06:43 PM   #29 
     - In the period before that, there was abject poverty  EFerrari   Aug-23-09 06:53 PM   #34 
     - You can't know that. It was the same under Chavez from 1999-2001...  Fearless   Aug-23-09 07:11 PM   #43 
        - Of course I can know that. The vultures that have preyed  EFerrari   Aug-23-09 07:31 PM   #49 
     - Yes well and those oil profits are now going to the people  Warren Stupidity   Aug-23-09 09:21 PM   #58 
  - But Venezuela has had oil and natural gas  sabrina 1   Aug-24-09 12:54 AM   #64 
  - LOL! After five years of astonishing economic growth, nearly 10% per year, with most of the growth  Peace Patriot   Aug-23-09 01:43 PM   #3 
  - How 'bout a link?  Wilms   Aug-23-09 05:58 PM   #5 
  - Venezuelan economy shrinks for the first time since 2003  EFerrari   Aug-23-09 06:11 PM   #10 
  - Here are some numbers  sabrina 1   Aug-23-09 09:53 PM   #62 
  - If not for the food shortages and runaway inflation....  WriteDown   Aug-23-09 06:10 PM   #9 
  - 1996 99.9% oh wait, wrong decade.nt.  Warren Stupidity   Aug-23-09 09:23 PM   #59 
  - Had however the recession decimated oil prices... it would be quite the opposite.  Fearless   Aug-23-09 06:48 PM   #31 
     - But that didn't happen. And no, Venezuela is not failing today.  EFerrari   Aug-23-09 06:58 PM   #37 
     - Did they cause oil prices to go up? Absolutely not! They are not the drivers of their fortunes.  Fearless   Aug-23-09 07:14 PM   #45 
     - You're looking at a static model when Venezuela is anything but static.  EFerrari   Aug-23-09 07:32 PM   #50 
     - There really aren't going to be any more bad years for oil prices.  Warren Stupidity   Aug-23-09 09:32 PM   #61 
        - This supportst that as well...  WriteDown   Aug-24-09 08:26 AM   #67 
     - They mirror these states...  WriteDown   Aug-24-09 08:27 AM   #68 
     - you really can't stand that Venezuela isn't failing.  Warren Stupidity   Aug-23-09 09:26 PM   #60 
        - Nail on the head! nt  jasi2006   Aug-24-09 12:58 AM   #65 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-23-09 04:28 PM   #4 
  - Rec'd this good news  sabrina 1   Aug-23-09 08:24 PM   #55 
  - UnReKKK for HUH?!1 n/t  UTUSN   Aug-23-09 09:02 PM   #56 
  - One of Hugo Chavez's favorite authors: Eduardo Galeano Contemplates History's Paradoxes  Judi Lynn   Aug-24-09 01:57 AM   #66 
 

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