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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:23 PM
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38. Recall the "gang of 14" and the "nuclear option"
Edited on Wed Aug-19-09 09:23 PM by Endangered Specie
To set the stage: the Senate was 55R-45D and the Democrats were filibustering some of W's judicial nominees, the Republicans got pissed and threatened to rewrite the rules so that they couldn't filibuster at all (dubbed the "nuclear option"). Only 51 votes needed to change the rules.

THe gang of 14 was 7 dems and 7 reps who agreed that, the former would not filibuster judges unless they were really really out there, and the latter would not vote for a rule change.
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  - Can you enlarge on that?  drm604   Aug-19-09 09:36 AM   #23 
  - Recall the "gang of 14" and the "nuclear option"  Endangered Specie   Aug-19-09 09:23 PM   #38 
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