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70. yes, and i understand generally the way the law works in this area
i was responding to post(s) that seemed to propose that ANY new bit of evidence warrants a retrial.

scalia's view that a even victim coming back to life can't overturn a murder conviction is extreme on the other side.

something in the middle, which is what actually happens, seems quite appropriate.
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  -Supreme Court says Georgia man should get chance to prove innocence in court(Troy Davis) maddezmom  Aug-17-09 09:54 AM   #0 
  - Good to hear!  JayMusgrove   Aug-17-09 10:00 AM   #1 
  - well, really, it took millions of people non-stop working for it. the pope  nofurylike   Aug-17-09 11:07 AM   #12 
     - Will the pope excommunicate Catholics who vote for the Death Penalty?  msanthrope   Aug-17-09 11:35 AM   #21 
        - well, it's back in georgia's courts now.... but i agree with your  nofurylike   Aug-17-09 12:46 PM   #32 
  - Finally!  Birdiesmom   Aug-17-09 10:11 AM   #2 
  - "Justice John Paul Stevens said.."  yodermon   Aug-17-09 10:13 AM   #3 
  - the court isn't is session, so I don't think it can be. n/t  Orangepeel   Aug-17-09 10:17 AM   #4 
     - we don't know how many total considered, and may have voted without  msanthrope   Aug-17-09 11:31 AM   #18 
        - "Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas dissented"  beac   Aug-17-09 12:09 PM   #27 
  - Prove innocence beyond a shadow of a doubt.  Downwinder   Aug-17-09 10:19 AM   #5 
  - "Prove" his innocence?  fjc   Aug-17-09 10:24 AM   #6 
  - It does. I'm puzzled by that as well.  Gregorian   Aug-17-09 10:40 AM   #8 
  - what should be the standard for new evidence?  unblock   Aug-17-09 10:53 AM   #10 
     - Evidence that was omitted from the original trial.  Gregorian   Aug-17-09 11:49 AM   #25 
        - you can't order up a new trial anytime one iota of evidence changed  unblock   Aug-17-09 06:12 PM   #52 
           - one little iota  druidity33   Aug-18-09 06:14 AM   #59 
              - that's exactly why there should be an evidentiary hearing  unblock   Aug-18-09 06:32 AM   #60 
                 - did you read the link?  druidity33   Aug-18-09 09:58 AM   #69 
                    - yes, and i understand generally the way the law works in this area  unblock   Aug-18-09 10:18 AM   #70 
  - That was the court's terminology is this case.  David__77   Aug-17-09 11:17 AM   #16 
  - I think that is because  polmaven   Aug-17-09 11:28 AM   #17 
  - This is good news.  Gregorian   Aug-17-09 10:35 AM   #7 
  - K&R  BumRushDaShow   Aug-17-09 10:50 AM   #9 
  - K&R and GRATITUDE!!! eom  nofurylike   Aug-17-09 11:04 AM   #11 
  - Catholic Majority on SCOTUS = Death Panel.  msanthrope   Aug-17-09 11:10 AM   #13 
  - Please don't blame  polmaven   Aug-17-09 11:32 AM   #19 
  - Why shouldn't I blame the Catholic Church? Think their religious  msanthrope   Aug-17-09 11:41 AM   #23 
     - The Pope himself has expressed  polmaven   Aug-17-09 12:27 PM   #30 
        - But has the pope put his money where his mouth is?  msanthrope   Aug-17-09 05:14 PM   #44 
  - You may want to rethink that..  WriteDown   Aug-17-09 11:39 AM   #22 
  - I wasn't speaking of 1993. I was speaking of now. You have  msanthrope   Aug-17-09 11:46 AM   #24 
     - And why should they?  WriteDown   Aug-17-09 11:53 AM   #26 
        - Because Herrera is one of the obstacles to his claims ever  msanthrope   Aug-17-09 12:15 PM   #28 
           - There was A LOT of evidence against Herrera....  WriteDown   Aug-17-09 12:23 PM   #29 
              - What I am saying is that Troy Davis is attempting to establish  msanthrope   Aug-17-09 05:08 PM   #42 
                 - Herrera was denied the ability to reintroduce  WriteDown   Aug-17-09 05:18 PM   #45 
                    - That doesn't matter.  msanthrope   Aug-17-09 05:36 PM   #49 
                       - There was tons of evidence against Herrera and a good deal..  WriteDown   Aug-17-09 05:45 PM   #51 
  - Um, Sotomayor's Catholic  KamaAina   Aug-17-09 01:42 PM   #39 
     - Do you not understand the word, "majority"? Or the fact that she wasn't part of this case?  msanthrope   Aug-17-09 05:24 PM   #47 
        - Your position fits the description of bigotry well.  Psephos   Aug-17-09 09:03 PM   #55 
  - from scotusblog:  nofurylike   Aug-17-09 11:13 AM   #14 
  - Interesting. If I had to guess, I'd say there must be some merit to Troy's plea.  Gregorian   Aug-17-09 11:34 AM   #20 
     - hey Gregorian! thank you for replying. you always show up!! yes,  nofurylike   Aug-17-09 12:40 PM   #31 
  - "Justices grant Georgia inmate's request to delay execution"  nofurylike   Aug-17-09 11:17 AM   #15 
  - Amnesty International USA Press Release  nofurylike   Aug-17-09 12:48 PM   #33 
  - hundreds of new articles just out :  nofurylike   Aug-17-09 12:54 PM   #34 
  - from Benjamin Todd Jealous, NAACP President and CEO:  nofurylike   Aug-17-09 01:12 PM   #35 
  - btw, THANK ****YOU****, Benjamin Todd Jealous!!!! eom  nofurylike   Aug-17-09 01:14 PM   #36 
  - I can't believe it. We did it!  EFerrari   Aug-17-09 05:21 PM   #46 
     - doesn't it blow your mind?! me too!! will you see the video of the DA, below,  nofurylike   Aug-17-09 05:29 PM   #48 
     - o, and this:  nofurylike   Aug-17-09 05:38 PM   #50 
  - the as-ever outstanding Atlanta Progressive News:  nofurylike   Aug-17-09 01:27 PM   #37 
  - Finally, some good news ...  ProudDad   Aug-17-09 01:29 PM   #38 
  - This is great news!  SeattleGirl   Aug-17-09 01:46 PM   #40 
  - DA Larry Chisolm's statement on SCOTUS ruling:  nofurylike   Aug-17-09 04:54 PM   #41 
  - Thank you!  EFerrari   Aug-17-09 05:13 PM   #43 
  - Georgia death row inmate gets new hearing  groundloop   Aug-17-09 06:38 PM   #53 
  - Kick  EFerrari   Aug-17-09 07:39 PM   #54 
  - Sweet!  daughter of liberty2   Aug-18-09 02:11 AM   #56 
  - kick. just had to come back and read it all. still AMAZED!!!! eom  nofurylike   Aug-18-09 03:08 AM   #57 
  - SCOTUS didn't say "should." they *ordered*. OP says it, but latimes  nofurylike   Aug-18-09 03:15 AM   #58 
  - Condemned Ga. man should get hearing  handmade34   Aug-18-09 09:24 AM   #61 
     - I feel nothing but contempt for  handmade34   Aug-18-09 09:24 AM   #62 
     - Umm.. he's right about a "fool's errand". Read the opinion.  Recursion   Aug-18-09 09:24 AM   #63 
        - I read the Court's opinion - and I believe you're wrong.  66 dmhlt   Aug-18-09 09:24 AM   #65 
           - Well, I agree with Scalia's reasoning here, which is why I am anti-death penalty.  Recursion   Aug-18-09 09:24 AM   #66 
           - 3 is the one that will prevail  Newshues   Aug-18-09 09:24 AM   #68 
     - This part concerns me...  WillBowden   Aug-18-09 09:24 AM   #64 
        - they get to watch a black man die?  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Aug-18-09 09:24 AM   #67 

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