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Sun Aug-02-09 04:06 PM
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| 5. Adam Green is counterproductive |
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Edited on Sun Aug-02-09 04:09 PM by karynnj
and this charge is ridiculous:
Adam Green, the co-founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC), made the charges in a scathing statement that said Nelson “feels perfectly comfortable lying to his constituents” if he continues to object to a liberal TV ad criticizing him.
An ad calling a Senator "corrupt" and "out of touch" is completely unlikely to win Nelson's vote. If anything, it may make it harder to get - or lead to his replacement by a Republican.
It would seem that an ad that makes a solid case for the type of health care Green wants would convince those who are persuadable and they would then call, email or meet with their Senator when he is home. I don't think an ad attacking him will generate anyone lobbying him on healthcare.
Now, I know that few here will agree - but how do get from the 39 Senators for public option to the minimum of 50 needed. Ads raising public opinion in favor of the idea and pushing for grassroots lobbying of Senators might not work - but attacking them will definitely not make them more likely to move.
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| -Ben Nelson, liberals escalate feud |
seafan |
Aug-02-09 03:21 PM |
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Flushing these corporate whores into the daylight is a good thing. |
formercia |
Aug-02-09 03:28 PM |
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Ben Nelson has become republican lite...... |
curiousdemo |
Aug-02-09 08:41 PM |
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Pretends his constituents want what he wants but he's wrong.He doesn't represent them. |
bjobotts |
Aug-02-09 09:37 PM |
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Nelson's brand is shot. If he acts like a health care lobbiest then... |
Walk away |
Aug-02-09 03:31 PM |
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Yup, move on and get out of the way |
dmr |
Aug-03-09 03:07 AM |
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I voted for Ben Nelson |
Omaha Steve |
Aug-02-09 03:49 PM |
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Keep pressuring for a progressive to end the downward spiral . ... |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-09 04:40 PM |
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How Right. Pete Ricketts Makes Jim DeMint Look Moderate |
DallasNE |
Aug-02-09 05:10 PM |
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Like Dashle would be an improvement over Thune. We have to pick |
jwirr |
Aug-02-09 08:20 PM |
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They're not conservative, they're right-wing authoritarians. |
SharonAnn |
Aug-02-09 09:54 PM |
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I see conservatives as simply ill informed. It's our job to inform them. |
JDPriestly |
Aug-03-09 12:34 AM |
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+1. |
annabanana |
Aug-03-09 05:46 AM |
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The younger Iranian generation is a testament to the notion of being informed... |
cascadiance |
Aug-03-09 03:14 PM |
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Absolutely True! Here Is An Excellent Discussion And Plan To Do Just That! Federal |
DaLittle Kitty |
Aug-02-09 10:00 PM |
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I guess everything is relative, I could die from a bullet to the |
pokercat999 |
Aug-03-09 06:46 AM |
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Same reason I voted for Obama. |
bvar22 |
Aug-02-09 06:00 PM |
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Representative Government is a "Good Idea" |
Moochy |
Aug-03-09 09:45 AM |
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I understand that and I think we may actually be helping him get |
jwirr |
Aug-02-09 08:16 PM |
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Don't bet on it. In other states, they are attacking blue dogs who oppose medical |
No Elephants |
Aug-05-09 11:02 AM |
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I understand what you're saying, but I'm beginning to question that logic... |
Iowa |
Aug-02-09 09:13 PM |
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By voting for Nelson and others like him, we're "enabling" them. |
SharonAnn |
Aug-02-09 09:55 PM |
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BOTH Parties Are Inherently Corrupt! If This Was Not Apparent Before, Today There Can Be NO Debate! |
DaLittle Kitty |
Aug-02-09 10:05 PM |
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Nelson |
spag68 |
Aug-02-09 10:19 PM |
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+1 |
grahamhgreen |
Aug-03-09 12:42 AM |
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To Nelson: resign your seat and become a lobbyist, like the rest of the corporate hacks! n.t |
groovedaddy |
Aug-03-09 08:56 AM |
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I like your typo "We let DINOS get BUY with it too much"! |
cascadiance |
Aug-03-09 03:03 PM |
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Yup.. me too.. |
RoadRage |
Aug-02-09 10:36 PM |
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Find a progressive to challenge Nelson in the next election. |
JDPriestly |
Aug-03-09 12:39 AM |
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Nebraska Democrats Did That In 2008 |
DallasNE |
Aug-03-09 07:41 AM |
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isn't there an independent the lib/progressives can run to drum |
orleans |
Aug-03-09 12:54 AM |
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No.. |
RoadRage |
Aug-04-09 10:03 PM |
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Wow! states Ins. Commissioner before he was Gov. That stinks. |
JDPriestly |
Aug-03-09 12:30 AM |
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Are we? |
quakerboy |
Aug-03-09 11:20 AM |
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What is the difference between Ben Nelson and a Republican, though? |
No Elephants |
Aug-05-09 10:50 AM |
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Never forget to use the L word |
depakid |
Aug-02-09 03:57 PM |
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Adam Green is counterproductive |
karynnj |
Aug-02-09 04:06 PM |
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The only chance to "win" his vote is to wake up his constitutents to his corruption. |
rhett o rick |
Aug-02-09 04:37 PM |
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Do we really know he is corrupt? |
karynnj |
Aug-02-09 08:39 PM |
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Conflict of interest is not a form of corruption? |
tsuki |
Aug-02-09 08:49 PM |
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Do we know there is conflict of interest? |
karynnj |
Aug-02-09 09:03 PM |
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If you take two million dollars from a party before a vote |
tsuki |
Aug-03-09 02:50 PM |
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add another quarter mil... 2.26 million according to KO last night. nt |
wroberts189 |
Aug-04-09 07:31 PM |
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The odds are very high he is corrupt. But it doesn't matter. The important thing is he is helping th |
rhett o rick |
Aug-03-09 08:39 AM |
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Green obviously aims to invoke righteous anger in Nelson's CONSITITUENTS |
bread_and_roses |
Aug-02-09 07:14 PM |
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And tthis righteous anger will inspire them to do what? |
karynnj |
Aug-02-09 08:36 PM |
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I would venture to bet that your reasonable steps have already been done - and done - |
bread_and_roses |
Aug-03-09 04:55 AM |
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You are unfortunately probably correct in your assertions. |
nevergiveup |
Aug-02-09 08:19 PM |
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You're just wrong ... Nebraska may be conservative, but the ad can only provoke a voter rebellion if |
thunder rising |
Aug-02-09 08:32 PM |
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You have more faith in the constituents of Nebraska than I do. |
nevergiveup |
Aug-02-09 09:14 PM |
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This tactic has appeared to been fairly effective with |
rpannier |
Aug-02-09 09:10 PM |
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People Don't Understand The Unique Circumstances |
DallasNE |
Aug-03-09 08:04 AM |
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karynnj, if what you say is true...how do you explain what the Repugs have |
KoKo |
Aug-03-09 08:59 AM |
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You are comparing RW attacks on Democrats to |
karynnj |
Aug-03-09 02:42 PM |
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"....that the additional breath waters down what the party stands for.". |
KoKo |
Aug-04-09 06:40 PM |
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Nelson should just change his party colors to corporate-GOP |
UpInArms |
Aug-02-09 04:49 PM |
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Nelson is a soon to be irrelevant tool. nt |
bemildred |
Aug-02-09 04:55 PM |
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It's being made apparent that he represents special interests over the people. |
bjobotts |
Aug-02-09 09:40 PM |
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This issue will bring him down as too many people want and need reform. |
bjobotts |
Aug-02-09 09:41 PM |
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On this issue you're either for corporate interests or the people's interests. |
bjobotts |
Aug-02-09 09:42 PM |
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He's got to go. Join Lieberman and get lost. |
Faygo Kid |
Aug-02-09 05:09 PM |
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he's from Nebraska, not Colorado... |
paulk |
Aug-02-09 07:31 PM |
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Ben Nelson is just like any other Republican. |
New Dawn |
Aug-02-09 05:18 PM |
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That's awesome! We need to get shills like Nelson out of the party. |
Tutankhamun |
Aug-02-09 05:32 PM |
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Kicked |
Iwillnevergiveup |
Aug-02-09 05:34 PM |
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Can Dr. Dean Take Over Our Party Again, Please? |
MannyGoldstein |
Aug-02-09 06:04 PM |
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Sigh.... |
Eric68601 |
Aug-02-09 06:06 PM |
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Voting for the lesser of two evils is no disgrace! |
CLANG |
Aug-02-09 07:18 PM |
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Voting for the lesser of two evils results in EVIL (n/t) |
ProudDad |
Aug-02-09 09:11 PM |
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Exactly! |
Iowa |
Aug-02-09 09:18 PM |
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Well said. nt |
grahamhgreen |
Aug-03-09 12:44 AM |
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so does voting for neither |
CLANG |
Aug-03-09 04:41 PM |
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And how is that exactly? |
ProudDad |
Aug-04-09 01:09 AM |
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Which makes voting for the "good' in the primary over evil that much more important! |
cascadiance |
Aug-03-09 05:13 PM |
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Run! Fricken RUN yourself! |
PassingFair |
Aug-02-09 08:00 PM |
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PUPPETS WHO Will Do The Bidding Of The Corporate Benefactors Who FINANCE Their Campaigns |
DaLittle Kitty |
Aug-02-09 10:13 PM |
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How does Nelson vote that is different from how a Republican votes? |
No Elephants |
Aug-05-09 11:56 AM |
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I am REALLY GLAD.... |
bvar22 |
Aug-02-09 06:08 PM |
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And Wellstone would have understood the need to be careful in states |
jwirr |
Aug-02-09 08:31 PM |
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oh yeah, like MN is a bastion of liberal policy. |
thunder rising |
Aug-02-09 08:36 PM |
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It was until recently. And that is why he was so popular. We are here and |
jwirr |
Aug-02-09 08:44 PM |
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The legislature is controlled by the DFL as are all the Contsitutional offices |
dflprincess |
Aug-02-09 09:01 PM |
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What? |
TheCML |
Aug-02-09 11:12 PM |
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Thanks |
emmadoggy |
Aug-02-09 11:37 PM |
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red state / blue state = red herring |
western mass |
Aug-03-09 01:32 AM |
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Nelson is a fraud...nt |
and-justice-for-all |
Aug-02-09 06:29 PM |
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DON'T JUST SIT THERE---WRITE A NOTE TO SENATOR BEN NELSON ON HC!! |
nikto |
Aug-02-09 06:31 PM |
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I send this SOB an email regularly and get a form letter back. |
newfie11 |
Aug-03-09 07:03 AM |
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How dare Nelson hold national health care reform hostage for his special interests |
dpbrown |
Aug-02-09 06:32 PM |
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Bring the heat, it's time to boil the frog |
sasquatch |
Aug-02-09 06:53 PM |
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Deleted. nt |
Snotcicles |
Aug-02-09 07:04 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-02-09 07:36 PM |
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Excellent . The truth is never wrong |
MisterK |
Aug-02-09 07:51 PM |
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Shouldn't Max Baucus be getting the same treatment? |
scarletwoman |
Aug-02-09 07:59 PM |
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It seems like Baucus should be getting it even worse. |
Frank Booth |
Aug-02-09 10:28 PM |
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I emailed his office |
Beavker |
Aug-02-09 08:41 PM |
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Garbage Humans |
GenCobra |
Aug-02-09 08:43 PM |
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Nelson is not in the center |
The Wizard |
Aug-02-09 09:31 PM |
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Nelson is of the same genus as Tauzin. |
jeanmarc |
Aug-02-09 09:53 PM |
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replace Nelson with a real democrat |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Aug-02-09 10:55 PM |
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He'd have been a moderate Republican in the 1970's |
HughMoran |
Aug-03-09 12:16 AM |
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Now, now, I'm sure Sen Nelson can find a way to quietly pocket the 2 mil and VOTE FOR SINGLE PAYER! |
grahamhgreen |
Aug-03-09 12:49 AM |
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But theres more |
newfie11 |
Aug-03-09 07:05 AM |
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Money outweighs votes |
Plucketeer |
Aug-03-09 01:02 AM |
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I just made a donation to Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC), |
GreenTea |
Aug-03-09 03:12 AM |
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Thanks for this link. I just added it to my favorites, and |
old mark |
Aug-03-09 05:44 AM |
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Nelson's gotta have an insurance money trail. Disgusting. |
mother earth |
Aug-03-09 07:32 AM |
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What an incredibly dumb thing to say.. he will kill a bill out of spite? |
DCBob |
Aug-03-09 07:45 AM |
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This is what republicans are incapable of doing, and we should be proud. |
lxlxlxl |
Aug-03-09 10:29 AM |
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What I don't get is how phonies like Nelson can live with themselves. |
Zorra |
Aug-04-09 07:03 PM |
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I sure hope it is horrible to be anyone who opposes medical insurance reform. |
No Elephants |
Aug-05-09 11:53 AM |
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Support Democracy for America (Dean) and/or Progressive Change Campaign Committee (Green) |
No Elephants |
Aug-05-09 12:01 PM |
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