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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 04:53 PM
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78. No, that's not it either.
Edited on Sun Aug-02-09 04:54 PM by bemildred
It's more a matter of carrying out your commitments, doing what you were elected to do. Elections have consequences.

Formerly ruling oligarchies hate that.
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  -Venezuelan Regulators Pull 34 Radio Concessions Rage for Order  Aug-01-09 10:10 AM   #0 
  - For those who prefer a source other than Associated Press  Rage for Order   Aug-01-09 10:15 AM   #1 
  - Human Rights Watch?!  DavidDvorkin   Aug-01-09 10:49 AM   #6 
  - It's not government consolidation unless the government plans  EFerrari   Aug-01-09 10:17 AM   #2 
  - Are you that naive, or are you purposely being obtuse?  Rage for Order   Aug-01-09 10:25 AM   #3 
  - Are you? What you have there is a big pile of "ifs" against  EFerrari   Aug-01-09 10:38 AM   #5 
     - really will excuse anything if it's done in the name of a cause you support  Rage for Order   Aug-01-09 10:58 AM   #7 
     - Anything involving Venezuela...  47of74   Aug-01-09 11:16 AM   #8 
     - Spotting these obvious hit pieces has nothing to do with worship  EFerrari   Aug-01-09 11:29 AM   #11 
     - since when is a fact a "hit piece"?  Titanothere   Aug-02-09 05:51 PM   #87 
        - Read the article again and find the facts. And then, go read the new one today  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 06:26 PM   #102 
        - What "fact"?  clixtox   Aug-03-09 04:58 AM   #148 
        - no facts... who is drinking the koolaid now?  fascisthunter   Aug-04-09 08:39 AM   #161 
     - Chavez could be caught tearing off puppy heads and drinking their blood  DissedByBush   Aug-01-09 02:50 PM   #20 
     - And you know that how? He never has.  EFerrari   Aug-01-09 03:41 PM   #25 
        - Can't understand the concept of a hypothetical?  DissedByBush   Aug-01-09 05:44 PM   #29 
        - Can you follow your own metaphor?  EFerrari   Aug-01-09 05:49 PM   #30 
           - Put others at risk?  DissedByBush   Aug-01-09 10:31 PM   #48 
              - That's right. They threaten his power. Despite the fact that  EFerrari   Aug-01-09 11:53 PM   #49 
                 - It's the dictator's mind  DissedByBush   Aug-02-09 10:38 AM   #53 
                 - The Carter Center is only one of the orgs that have monitored  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 06:01 PM   #93 
                    - Scheduling conflict?  DissedByBush   Aug-02-09 06:17 PM   #99 
                       - Yes, and that's why NAACP and The National Lawyers Guild  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 06:21 PM   #101 
                       - If you did your homework, kept up with current events you wouldn't make an ass of yourself  Judi Lynn   Aug-02-09 06:31 PM   #106 
                          - Me bother him?  DissedByBush   Aug-02-09 09:04 PM   #118 
                             - Spend your excess time becoming familiar with the facts, forget about attacking other posters. n/t  Judi Lynn   Aug-02-09 09:23 PM   #125 
                                - The attacks here are against me  DissedByBush   Aug-03-09 08:53 PM   #160 
                                   - You started out attacking Chavez supporters.  EFerrari   Aug-06-09 02:04 PM   #163 
                 - Easy winning elections when you control the opposition as well.  IDFbunny   Aug-02-09 01:00 PM   #61 
                    - The opposition is not controlled by the majority. And they get  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 06:29 PM   #105 
        - Chavez Has TUBES. Aluminum TUBES  NashVegas   Aug-02-09 07:51 PM   #114 
           - LOL  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 09:32 PM   #129 
     - And the cognitive dissonance is so thick you can cut it with a knife! NT  MADem   Aug-01-09 06:52 PM   #33 
     - And anything involving Hugo Chavez  bitchkitty   Aug-01-09 08:02 PM   #40 
     - As Well As Those Who Want to Squelch Informed, Progressive US Voices  NashVegas   Aug-02-09 07:49 PM   #113 
     - You have nothing, as usual. And if we tried to wrestle our media  EFerrari   Aug-01-09 11:28 AM   #10 
     - Not only is Obama a Socialist, he is a  bahrbearian   Aug-01-09 01:28 PM   #17 
     - I think I see your point  Rage for Order   Aug-01-09 02:21 PM   #18 
     - No, you completely miss my point. In Venezuela we're talking about  EFerrari   Aug-01-09 03:39 PM   #24 
        - Is there anything that can't be justified under the auspices of the 2002 coup?  Rage for Order   Aug-01-09 08:28 PM   #44 
        - Nope. Venezuela is finally prying their media out of the hands of  EFerrari   Aug-01-09 08:54 PM   #46 
           - Is there a media monopoly?  creeksneakers2   Aug-02-09 05:34 PM   #85 
              - Since you have so much time for honest research why don't you research Vene. media, after all?  Judi Lynn   Aug-02-09 05:52 PM   #88 
              - That doesn't make any sense  creeksneakers2   Aug-02-09 09:07 PM   #120 
                 - What was that pro-Chavez source you got from me? Thanks. n/t  Judi Lynn   Aug-02-09 09:26 PM   #126 
                    - I can't remember the name  creeksneakers2   Aug-02-09 09:43 PM   #132 
                    - I said show a pro-Chavez site you got from ME. n/t  Judi Lynn   Aug-02-09 10:36 PM   #136 
                    - Oh. I found it  creeksneakers2   Aug-02-09 10:18 PM   #133 
                       - Right. Reuters spins law enforcement as something else.  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 11:50 PM   #140 
              - The rich wingnuts own like 70% of the media. n/t  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 06:27 PM   #104 
                 - You're right. Easily. They also control what is picked up by outside media. n/t  Judi Lynn   Aug-02-09 06:32 PM   #107 
                    - I didn't know that bit. And that's important, as we've seen in Honduras.  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 06:37 PM   #109 
                       - It's a real shame most newspapers shut down their burueas in other countries,  Judi Lynn   Aug-02-09 06:46 PM   #110 
        - I don't see the connection  creeksneakers2   Aug-02-09 05:26 PM   #82 
           - 1) The bill isn't even fully written yet, so your assumptions are speculation  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 07:27 PM   #111 
              - Who decides what is the public good?  creeksneakers2   Aug-02-09 09:20 PM   #123 
                 - The people of Venezuela elect their government to be custodians, remember?  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 11:19 PM   #138 
     - But the right wing has the right to say what they want.  Ikonoklast   Aug-01-09 02:40 PM   #19 
        - They have the right to say what they want, that's true.  EFerrari   Aug-01-09 03:31 PM   #22 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-01-09 12:18 PM   #15 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-01-09 02:53 PM   #21 
     - Yep. I'd like the freedom of the right wing lie factory curtailed.  Wilms   Aug-01-09 12:29 PM   #16 
     - Wow...  Mudoria   Aug-01-09 07:24 PM   #37 
        - You have outdone your usual well reasoned, fact filled arguments.  EFerrari   Aug-01-09 08:04 PM   #41 
  - bwahahahahahahahahahaha.  cali   Aug-01-09 05:50 PM   #31 
  - In other places it's called law enforcement.  EFerrari   Aug-01-09 05:59 PM   #32 
  - Not that I always agree with their decisions.  Wilms   Aug-01-09 08:05 PM   #42 
  - I found this disturbing.  Lagomorph   Aug-01-09 10:06 PM   #47 
     - About as much as "Obama is the government".  clixtox   Aug-02-09 02:30 AM   #50 
        - Of course he upholds it....  Lagomorph   Aug-02-09 10:28 PM   #134 
           - The elected President doesn't choose the National Assembly. That's their ELECTED assembly.  Judi Lynn   Aug-02-09 10:44 PM   #137 
           - For countless history books.  Lagomorph   Aug-03-09 07:38 PM   #157 
           - Of course he upholds it...  clixtox   Aug-03-09 04:34 AM   #147 
              - Not a problem!  Lagomorph   Aug-03-09 07:22 PM   #156 
  - president of Venezuela's Association of Newspapers, on Friday called the proposed law a violation  ohio2007   Aug-01-09 10:29 AM   #4 
  - chavez  ro1942   Aug-01-09 11:17 AM   #9 
  - And when they do try to protect their sovereignty they're excoriated by the US RW and "left".  Mika   Aug-01-09 11:51 AM   #13 
     - I don't know if there is any leftist ideology in the US  AlphaCentauri   Aug-01-09 04:53 PM   #27 
     - Hillary is called one.  Wilms   Aug-01-09 08:09 PM   #43 
        - some think that eating vegetables and defending cows and pets makes you a leftist  AlphaCentauri   Aug-02-09 11:47 AM   #57 
     - Nice picture that one  dipsydoodle   Aug-02-09 10:31 AM   #52 
  - i wish we could do that to Rush, Dr. wienner Savage, and some others insane assholes..  1handclapn   Aug-01-09 11:44 AM   #12 
  - have to say I disagree...  Endangered Specie   Aug-01-09 03:33 PM   #23 
     - But those people aren't on the air because we have freedom of speech.  EFerrari   Aug-01-09 04:12 PM   #26 
     - Also air waves are not use it by the public either  AlphaCentauri   Aug-01-09 04:55 PM   #28 
     - so you think we should do away with libel and slander laws?  harmonicon   Aug-01-09 07:13 PM   #36 
  - K&R #4 for, counting down to Huguito's UnRekkk-ers!1 n/t  UTUSN   Aug-01-09 12:04 PM   #14 
  - who are those people?  UpInArms   Aug-01-09 07:09 PM   #35 
  - count me in... I always unrec right wing propaganda  fascisthunter   Aug-02-09 10:38 AM   #54 
  - here's one of my favorite Venezuela links  UpInArms   Aug-01-09 07:09 PM   #34 
  - Glad you aren't running things...  Mudoria   Aug-01-09 07:24 PM   #38 
     - right back at you!  UpInArms   Aug-01-09 08:30 PM   #45 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Aug-01-09 07:38 PM   #39 
  - deleted sub threads are perfect examples of banana republic 'bias' n/t  ohio2007   Aug-02-09 09:57 AM   #51 
  - I'm sure hugo will assign the stations to a more enlightened set of owners  SeriousEbony   Aug-02-09 10:52 AM   #55 
  - nt  ohio2007   Aug-02-09 10:53 AM   #56 
  - If we had freedom of speech here, on our public airwaves, there would be more than  Peace Patriot   Aug-02-09 12:07 PM   #58 
  - thanks for that very good and thorough explanation  provis99   Aug-02-09 12:26 PM   #59 
  - Time warp: Allende in the 1970s. (Please no, not again.) nt  puebloknot   Aug-02-09 02:39 PM   #62 
  - Does it hurt, twisting yourself into such knots in an attempt to rationalize this?  Rage for Order   Aug-02-09 04:44 PM   #77 
  - You bet it is. If any of our outlets engaged in what the right wing does  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 06:16 PM   #98 
  - Yes, it is acceptable  subsuelo   Aug-02-09 09:05 PM   #119 
  - You nailed it  Zorro   Aug-02-09 10:31 PM   #135 
  - Rage For Order, I don't see how YOU can call yourself a progressive--if you do--  Peace Patriot   Aug-03-09 02:09 AM   #144 
  - Great post Peace Patriot, I agree very much  subsuelo   Aug-02-09 09:10 PM   #121 
  - Because they lie about everything. I think it's a good idea.  Joanne98   Aug-02-09 12:26 PM   #60 
  - I'd be glad to see them have to publish retractions in some  creeksneakers2   Aug-02-09 06:08 PM   #95 
  - DU isn't broadcast all over the country. One example I can think of  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 06:34 PM   #108 
  - Do you remember the stunt pulled by Tal Cual, when they photoshopped a gun in Chavez' hand,  Judi Lynn   Aug-02-09 06:27 PM   #103 
  - Venezuela begins shutdown of 34 radio stations (Update 2)  denem   Aug-02-09 04:26 PM   #63 
  - Please see my discussion about free speech here and in Venezuela,  Peace Patriot   Aug-02-09 04:26 PM   #64 
  - Let me guess.....  creeksneakers2   Aug-02-09 04:26 PM   #66 
  - The additional 120 stations is OPPOSITION speculation.  denem   Aug-02-09 04:26 PM   #72 
     - From the article...  creeksneakers2   Aug-02-09 04:35 PM   #74 
  - The reform you seek is on the way  Rage for Order   Aug-02-09 04:37 PM   #75 
     - I'm going to put this down as Dire Prediction #253 That Won't Come True.  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 06:18 PM   #100 
  - This doesn't seem democratic or in the spirit of socialism.  Buzz Clik   Aug-02-09 04:26 PM   #65 
  - i agree it feels undemocratic to us indoctrinated americans.  bullimiami   Aug-02-09 04:26 PM   #67 
  - Dictators for life favor this technique over freedom of the press. Sad but true.  timeforpeace   Aug-02-09 04:26 PM   #69 
  - That's certainly one way to win an argument with your opponents  bluestateguy   Aug-02-09 04:26 PM   #68 
  - Where freedom of the press is concerned the U.S. record is  irislake   Aug-02-09 04:26 PM   #70 
  - The United States is WORSE.  denem   Aug-02-09 04:26 PM   #71 
  - Gasp! Was anyone injured? nt  bemildred   Aug-02-09 04:26 PM   #73 
  - The ends justifies the means  mamaleah   Aug-02-09 04:43 PM   #76 
  - No, that's not it either.  bemildred   Aug-02-09 04:53 PM   #78 
  - That's what right wingers in this country tried to claim too  mamaleah   Aug-02-09 05:00 PM   #79 
     - The desire to shut down opposition is common as dirt.  bemildred   Aug-02-09 05:19 PM   #81 
  - Not at all. It's more about knowing democracy in Venezuela.  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 06:08 PM   #96 
     - And by study  mamaleah   Aug-02-09 07:48 PM   #112 
     - Who would that be? I trained as an academic researcher  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 07:51 PM   #115 
     - Good point, EFerrari! Those who claim to be defending "free speech" in Venezuela  Peace Patriot   Aug-02-09 08:53 PM   #116 
  - That 'private media' (owned by the super rich) participated in the CIA's 2002 coup attempt.  New Dawn   Aug-02-09 05:14 PM   #80 
  - Yep. And they have been integral to the subsequent destabilization attempts.  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 06:11 PM   #97 
     - In other news, hills around caracas still a filthy slum..  Pavulon   Aug-02-09 09:31 PM   #127 
        - The UN says Venezuela achieved their Millenium anti poverty goals.  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 11:32 PM   #139 
           - Thanks for mentioning that to the poster. I found a relevant link to illustrate the point made:  Judi Lynn   Aug-03-09 12:35 AM   #142 
  - Fairness Doctrine....Venezuelans need a Fairness Doctrine nt  ohio2007   Aug-02-09 05:28 PM   #83 
  - Well I can go for that.  bemildred   Aug-02-09 05:30 PM   #84 
  - You're right about that. Only the oligarchs have had a voice.  Judi Lynn   Aug-02-09 05:39 PM   #86 
  - You're defending the indefensible. Your King is in the process of destroying free speech, and  Dave From Canada   Aug-02-09 05:58 PM   #91 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Aug-02-09 06:01 PM   #92 
  - You really should try reading something besides propaganda  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 06:03 PM   #94 
  - Let me guess. I should be reading King Hugo's propaganda, right? Whatever.  Dave From Canada   Aug-02-09 08:53 PM   #117 
     - The bill isn't even finalized yet. It's a little soon to cry the sky's falling. n/t  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 09:20 PM   #124 
  - spoken like a true know-nothing  ima_sinnic   Aug-02-09 09:31 PM   #128 
  - And the water gets a bit warmer for the froggies  Pavulon   Aug-02-09 09:37 PM   #131 
  - That would work. We need one, too.  EFerrari   Aug-02-09 05:54 PM   #89 
     - It's so hard to accept the right-wing under Reagan was able to destroy it.  Judi Lynn   Aug-02-09 05:56 PM   #90 
  - Think 34 fuax-noise machines  ProudDad   Aug-02-09 09:18 PM   #122 
  - GREAT NEWS!!! It's about time these right wing assholes got pulled...  TankLV   Aug-02-09 09:35 PM   #130 
  - Excellent! Viva Chavez!!!  subsuelo   Aug-02-09 11:58 PM   #141 
  - Viva Chavez is the new Heil Hitler.  IDFbunny   Aug-03-09 01:12 AM   #143 
     - Unlike Hitler, Chavez was praised by American Jewish leaders  EFerrari   Aug-03-09 02:18 AM   #145 
  - LOL guy is a fascist pig  democracy1st   Aug-03-09 04:04 AM   #146 
  - No kidding? Really?  clixtox   Aug-03-09 05:50 AM   #149 
  - I tell you what the worst thing you can do is take away voices of your people  democracy1st   Aug-03-09 05:56 AM   #150 
     - Chavez *is* the voice of the people  subsuelo   Aug-03-09 06:17 AM   #151 
     - That's it? A homily!  clixtox   Aug-03-09 10:22 AM   #153 
        - does he support Iranian leadership?  democracy1st   Aug-03-09 03:01 PM   #154 
        - he can't, nor can any other right wing sock puppet  fascisthunter   Aug-03-09 08:06 PM   #159 
  - LOL. You guys eat this stuff up with a spoon.  EFerrari   Aug-03-09 04:17 PM   #155 
  - you talking about the right wing?  fascisthunter   Aug-03-09 08:05 PM   #158 
  - So the historical monumental corruption and "flojera" is all Chavez's fault?  RedCloud   Aug-03-09 06:28 AM   #152 
  - It's a good thing he's a progressive, because otherwise this would be quite disturbing. n/t  hughee99   Aug-04-09 09:39 AM   #162 

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